I really appreciate the global perspective of this channel.
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
Me too, very much!
@mackinblack3 жыл бұрын
Gay
@dandandydan3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Little.Bird.3 жыл бұрын
I concur!!
@Little.Bird.3 жыл бұрын
Your videos give me so much to look forward to.. I love the start of the weeks just for the reason I know one of you chilling videos 📹 of something bad happening with Shirley arrive..thank you so D
@jasonfullerton77633 жыл бұрын
I am reminded of the old saying: "You cannot put a price on safety." I am a manufacturing engineer, and I always say that this is Rule #1 in a factory: "Everyone goes home today with 10 fingers and 10 toes." Nothing else (cost, time, efficiency, convenience) can ever override Rule #1. No matter if you are the janitor or the CEO - you either act safely or get out of my production floor.
@karaamundson39643 жыл бұрын
100 on that.
@SirGuifoyle3 жыл бұрын
Respect.
@MarquisDeSang3 жыл бұрын
No matter how often we told employees to close the cover of the high speed moulding machine and wear hear protection of their choice that we would pay for them, they would never ever do any of this.
@hotmailcompany523 жыл бұрын
sadly the government only sees us as statistics in a document rather than people
@MarquisDeSang3 жыл бұрын
@Alice Kae They simply did not care, it is like they were doing their best to make everything they did dangerous.
@AnUndeadMonkey3 жыл бұрын
"In place of one long beam, two shorter beams were bolted together." Aaand it's the Hyatt Regency Walkway all over again.
@erikreinert49963 жыл бұрын
It's not quite the same. There is nothing inherently wrong with the decision to divide the long truss girders (as can be seen at 8:27) into multiple segments as the forces on both segments are divided equally (unlike Hyatt). Also it makes prefabricating them in a factory and transporting them to the construction side possible or at least a lot easier. Prefabricating girders is usually done when you have a lot of welding as the factory is a controlled environment with no rain, constant temperatures, better worker safety, etc. resulting in higher quality of the welds. Also transporting very long beams is sometimes not possible or too difficult because of road restrains. However you can also see at 8:27 that the truss girders are divided directly in the middle into only two (presumably prefabricated) segments. The problem here is that the forces acting on the girder are the highest in the middle of the span and that is where they put the bolts to connect the two segments. Even then it could have been OK if the bolts (and the metal plates they are attached to) are designed with enough margin and there is no extra load added. But they did add some extra loads with the rooftop garden and there are possibly changing forces in the foundation due to basement modifications, resulting in shifting loads in the upper sections of the structure and overloading the bolts. It seems very plausible to me that this is the fatal flaw. Also notice how at 7:30 you can see the collapsed girders are divided at this weakspot with the prefabricated segments still being mostly intact. When I (an architecture student) was taking civil engineering classes the professor would show different designs of truss girders and tell us never to design one that is divided right in the middle. Instead there are points along the span where certain important forces within the beams are at a minimum so you would divde there (if a single element beam is not feasible for whatever reason). Somebody else will know in more detail. I just saw the pictures of the girders and it raised an instant red flag with me.
@belphy2053 жыл бұрын
@@erikreinert4996 Thank you for this. It was really interesting and informative
@beerious83923 жыл бұрын
@Erik Rienert a simple pillar placed where the two segments of the girder join, transferring the load to a footing below would have saved lives. Sucks to have a column in the middle of your wide open space, but worth it. As a builder, I would never have a joint in a beam without putting a post under it. I wouldn't sleep at night.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
The Hyatt was a rod, not a beam. Should have been one. Wound up being 2.
@kevin62933 жыл бұрын
Also JAL123.
@mayapucuka53063 жыл бұрын
Being a Latvian myself it's great to see this globally not very well known disaster covered. It really was a devastating day for Latvia, especially being the small country we are. The fact that made this catastrophe so bad was the timing - 5.40, peak time for the shopping center, right around the time when a lot of people got off of work and went to Maxima to do their shopping often sadly with their children they have picked up from school before. There were heartbreaking stories of kids losing both of their parents and people only running inside for 5min to buy milk and sadly never coming out again. I know a girl who lived close to this shopping center and wanted to go but a phone call distracted her. If you would ask a Latvian what they did when they first heard of the collapse most would remember. To this day I can only compare it to the feeling I had on 9/11. I also remember following disaster we had 3 days of mourning when virtually no public events happened and there were no advertisements in television instead a short video in memory of victims was being shown. After this disaster many people also chose to boycott the shopping chain Maxima because they believed they had at least some fault in the collapse. There was also a lengthy trial but most people (especially victims families) are not really satisfied with the outcome thinking that the ones guilty got off mostly scot free. Btw another Baltic disaster worth covering would be sinking of MS Estonia in 1994. Despite the fact that almost 30y have passed its still a very mysterious event with many conspiracy theories surrounding it. *** Wow didn't expect this comment to get this big. Thank you for all the likes and replies :) ***
@gohawks35713 жыл бұрын
Poor babies😢
@laurenhodges64113 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your testimony. That is utterly saddening.
@morganosborne92583 жыл бұрын
I cannot even imagine the horror and sadness felt by the surrounding community. It was appalling that state inspections were shelved to save money. What heartbreaking cost in human lives.
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the MS Estonia disaster is definitely worth covering. Knowing the details, it was an unfathomably tragic chain of events.
@Every_Day_islike_Sunday3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry.
@dirtyhannie3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the civil engineer might have miscalculated but for him to get 6 years of prison and act as a scapegoat? There were many things wrong in the whole chain and it wasn't just a single person responsible.
@richardglenn9973 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree. But didn't the government take responsibility and resign?? New form of government after. The whole team of builders shouldn't be put responsible. It should be whoever is in charge of them! And he didnt ask authorities if what he was doing was okay. So it ends with him
@morganosborne92583 жыл бұрын
Agree. State inspections during construction may well have required changes that would have avoided or minimized effects of the failures. Seems there should have been some accountability there as well, but that does not happen.
@dacekundrate43913 жыл бұрын
@@richardglenn997 Our Prime Minister only resigned because he had a position in European Government. He would have resigned anyway. This tragedy only made him resign a bit earlier.
@cope94893 жыл бұрын
I live there and I have seen far worse things done in the courts and government, but there aren't usually any casualties in those decisions, just bad money management and corruption usually
@DistractedGlobeGuy3 жыл бұрын
Yep. But engineers generally aren't part of the ruling class, so they don't get the resources to defend themselves.
@lauriepenner3503 жыл бұрын
Rooftop garden: Most people: That sounds like a nice addition. People who watch this channel: Oh sh*t, how much does that weigh?
@AwkwardKidAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I used to love the idea of rooftop gardens. Now I think about them and cringe, lol
@itsmxtwist3 жыл бұрын
I feel as long as it was adequately planed for in the original design or changes made to be able to deal with it I don’t mine but of course you don’t always know
@lauriepenner3503 жыл бұрын
@@itsmxtwist Oh, I'm sure there are ways to do a renovation like that safely. You won't hear about them on this channel though...
@gracesreadsalotayy1823 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of rooftop gardens but ONLY if it was calculated in the design and not added later. You know what courtyards are nice. Me hearing two projects where happening : OH NO
@weltonvillegal62583 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought was Algo Center in Elliott Lake, Canada. Also covered on this channel…….
@SangerZonvolt3 жыл бұрын
Thats why I could never be a building engieneer: I could do these calculations 100s of times and still worry every day that one of my buildings collapses.
@Krystalmyth3 жыл бұрын
Yours probably wouldn't fall then.
@jasonfullerton77633 жыл бұрын
I am am engineer, but if I botch my math the only bad result is a few circuit boards don't work. Civil engineering, in particular, is a discipline where the severity of a failure is 10/10, even if the frequency of occurrence is rare.
@rockydify3 жыл бұрын
That’s why there should be oversight. A building shouldn’t rely on the calculations of one person.
@berzerkbankie13423 жыл бұрын
My job is relatively safe if I mess something up. Mostly property damage, more than likely no death or serious injury and I still worry every time I leave a job site (even after 10 years) "did I glue that piece together?" "Did I tighten that hose clamp?"
@UnknownOps3 жыл бұрын
I mean; proper safe measurements, usage of good, reliable materials, and following the idea of safety is not a cost but an investment, your career will go a long way without or with minimal fail.
@SovietWomble3 жыл бұрын
God damn does this content appeal to me. Direct and to the point, informative, cleanly presented, with virtually no opinionated rubbish. No shilling for some service or hawking some product. If only the rest of KZbin were exactly like this channel, it would be a much better website.
@pantsumaster48913 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing you here soviet
@nataliesiddle85073 жыл бұрын
Nice to see one of my fave you tubers watching content from another of my faves 👍🏻
@TimPerfetto2 жыл бұрын
Yeah stuff that hair
@IIDraithII2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@zacharyrollick61692 жыл бұрын
I agree, Soviet.
@MichaelNealeYT3 жыл бұрын
All the disasters like this come down to the same thing: Corners cut everywhere and finger pointing and yet we never learn
@richardglenn9973 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@aidancoutts23413 жыл бұрын
Remember for every instance of corner cutting, most of the time it is without consequence. Its all about odds really. That's how it keeps happening.
@gordonaliasme11043 жыл бұрын
Corporate greed. The love of money overrides human rights 😡
@lucindawelenc21913 жыл бұрын
Politicians and others who delight at finger pointing should remember that when you point the finger at someone else, three fingers point back to YOU.
@AwkwardKidAdventures3 жыл бұрын
The finger-pointing is the part that really aggravates me. "It wasn't OUR fault! It was those guys who made the bolts! YEAH, that's it! It was them!" "Well maybe if you knew how to screw IN a bolt properly, this wouldn't have happened!!!"
@TheLittleRedRidingHood3 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Latvia and actually have friends who went to that exact shop earlier that day - it was just completely tragic and horrifying. Everyone was calling each other and the phone lines were completely booked, so it was hard to reach out to someone. People were also trying to steal food on their way of getting out of the shop as it was breaking down, but the guards were trying to stop them from stealing. It was just completely insane. I think every Latvian can remember what they were doing that day, when that happened. A lot of people stopped shopping in Maxima completely and doesn’t trust the brand anymore. P.s. English is not my first language, but I hope you can understand what I meant.
@intdisaster Жыл бұрын
You speak better english than I do..
@joo069 Жыл бұрын
Your English is great! I think the only part of your comment that is grammatically incorrect was the last sentence. It should say: "A lot of people stopped shopping *at* Maxima completely and [they] *don't* trust the brand anymore.". Anyway, your English is much better than most native speakers I see on KZbin! 😂
@X_irtz4 күн бұрын
Yeah nah... i don't agree with the part, that claims the people stopped shopping at Maxima after this. This does not have anything to do with the company itself, but the lack of management, responsibility and greed of the contruction company, that built this thing.
@kgoulding12373 жыл бұрын
I usually think engineering issues are past issues as technology has advanced so much, but this wasn't that long ago, and in Christchurch NZ a building that collapsed in the 2011 earthquake was because the engineer who designed it stole his degree from his dad with the same name.
@Law-and-Disorder3 жыл бұрын
Honestly that whole series of earthquakes highlighted a LOT of issues that should never have existed
@PaleHorseShabuShabu3 жыл бұрын
Sole? Like the fish?
@louisasmiles3 жыл бұрын
@@PaleHorseShabuShabu soul, as in ,"are you going to heaven?, Soul
@lexwithbub3 жыл бұрын
@@louisasmiles sole as in the bottom of your shoe
@MrDannyDetail3 жыл бұрын
@@lexwithbub sole as in 'o sole mio'
@BertLensch3 жыл бұрын
Building Owner: "We're going to add a playground and landscaping to the roof!" My first thought: Is the roof even rated for that extra weight, and the weight of the construction equipment you're going to put up there? Fascinating Horror: "No. No, no, no, noooooooooooo..."
@cynvision3 жыл бұрын
I had similar reaction. After Surfside Florida the "added a rooftop garden" set off my deadload alarm. Metal fatigue of a design change using bolts... Sounds a bit like the Hyatt walkway collapse.
@Codraroll3 жыл бұрын
Extra weight isn't necessarily a problem, if there is a sufficient load margin. The question, however, isn't "What is the extra load margin?" but "*How certain* are you about that extra load margin?"
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
@@cynvision The problem in FL is that it was already AT 100% capacity. That's insane to begin with. It's supposed to be very overbuilt and it wasn't.
@wilkatis3 жыл бұрын
Being a somewhat northern country Latvia tends to have a lot of spare capacity for the roofs weight load - snow can come in quickly and on mass, that has to be accounted for. Thus, properly constructed it surely would have been within the given specification (altho as mentioned in the video those weren't exactly correct). Hell, even the small roof over my porch is built to withstand a typical car being put on it. A point they didn't mention in the video is that the garden was in the process of being built and thus the materials were mostly concentrated on a relatively small section of the roof rather than being spread across it, which was most definitely ill advised
@Law-and-Disorder3 жыл бұрын
That false alarm was insane timing though. What happened was bad enough but imagine how many more could have been caught in the collapse
@margin6063 жыл бұрын
'Insane?'
@JeantheSecond3 жыл бұрын
@@margin606 Insane coincidence?
@quillmaurer65633 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - presenter ponders if investigating and fixing that could have detected the structural issues, but on the other hand had they fixed the fire alarm without finding and fixing the structural issues the alarm wouldn't have caused some people to leave and there would have been more victims. One of those situations where things were so bad that one problem actually helped mitigate an even more serious one.
@ville666sora3 жыл бұрын
@@margin606 🙄🙄🙄
@ladyfarona19883 жыл бұрын
I'm not an engineer but just the idea of adding weight to the top of a structure and also digging below it doesn't sound like a good idea. Regardless, this structure was already doomed by the time it was being built. Such a shame. RIP to all those who perished. Thanks FH for another informative and well-put-together video.
@ursodermatt88093 жыл бұрын
i am not so sure that was just an afterthought
@jayjaynella45392 жыл бұрын
The soil on the roof would have retained much water which was not included in the calculations.
@shogun22153 жыл бұрын
On the topic of shopping centre collapses, perhaps the Sampoong Collapse in South Korea would be a good topic to cover on this channel, for the sheer level of incompetence and greed that allowed it to happen.
@pickles31283 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they added an extra level after it had already been engineered, designed, and part way through the building process, then added a gigantic A/C unit to the roof that was heavier than an original 2001 xbox. And people kept saying, "Hey, there's cracks in the floor near the support beams," but it was treated more as a cosmetic issue, not a safety one, right up to the collapse.
@NinjaTyler3 жыл бұрын
@@pickles3128 and when notified of imminent collapse the owners refused to shut down the mall to make a few extra dollars ...while they quickly fled the building...
@AviationNut3 жыл бұрын
I thought he already did the Sampoong collapse in SK, but maybe i am mistaking it with another channel.
@billul13 жыл бұрын
And when the floor bulges down because of the stress, their solution is to add cement on top of it so it looks flat again
@aadil35693 жыл бұрын
@@AviationNut yeah Brick Immortar did a good video on it, but it's in a similar style to this channel
@drazlet3 жыл бұрын
Just so you can understand the scale of this in proportion to the country, the percent of the population that died in this is actually slightly higher than the percentage of those who died in 9/11 compared to the US’s population at the time. Although no where near as impactful and large in terms of scale, Latvia truly felt a similarly heavy loss. In a different country, these sorts of things don’t usually make national news, but for Latvia, it is a scar on the nation’s psyche.
@warm.t33th2 жыл бұрын
this is a really interesting thing to consider. i cant imagine how heartbreaking that must have been
@Pandidolod2 жыл бұрын
The only reason 9/11 was as big of a thing was because the government wanted to use it to justify a forever-war overseas. You don't have to downplay the mall incident at all.
@nthgth2 жыл бұрын
Surely it made national news in that nation, so still in proportion to the impact
@nthgth2 жыл бұрын
Also, I'd argue that the proportion to the country is globally irrelevant - how horrible the event was, i.e. the scale of the suffering, is relative to the ideal of zero. Or relative to the human race as a whole.
@TerryFarrah Жыл бұрын
I was curious about exactly this comparison. Thanks for doing the arithmetic.
@erinschlothauer69103 жыл бұрын
fascinating horror: adding a park on top of the roof frequent viewers: oh well that's the problem fh: and adding a parking garage below fv: double damage (an oversimplification, but I think we were all thinking this at the beginning.)
@hownottoadult10143 жыл бұрын
That and pools
@Aurilaushe3 жыл бұрын
Yup, as soon as I heard they built something on the roof I knew the end was near
@sarmajere28663 жыл бұрын
I swear I have learned where to avoid visiting from this channel.
@keawarren3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I heard “rooftop garden” and thought, “Whelp, here we go ...” .
@FelonyVideos3 жыл бұрын
And foundation problems. Nothing can stand on a bad foundation, regardless of the quality and design.
@rilmar21373 жыл бұрын
The metal beams being replaced with several shorter ones part brings to mind the Hyatt Regency Kansas City Hotel skywalk collapse. Which means the lessons were not learned from that one.
@ladymienshao50143 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@Hannah-zw9ow3 жыл бұрын
To be fair I don’t think it’s exactly reasonable to expect that a small Eastern European country is all that up to date on the current events of Kansas, US.
@Kitty-mb4hy3 жыл бұрын
@@Hannah-zw9ow Exactly. I am from Russia not Latvia and have never heard about the Hyatt Regency collapse until like two or three years ago. One needs to be interested in the disaster topic to know of it.
@vaclavholek44973 жыл бұрын
I thought the same exact thing! 👍
@Angie-Pants3 жыл бұрын
@@Hannah-zw9ow It may not be known by the general public but yes, in the 2010s, any actual engineer would have learned about the Hyatt in college/uni. It's essentially Structural Engineering 101 at this point.
@c.w.82003 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed there were consequences though, usually engineers and politicians get away with these errors.
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
Usually engineers lose their license if this happens.
@AccomplishmentMissed3 жыл бұрын
@@A_Ducky which is tantamount to getting away with it, when people die as a result.
@janedoe-hq9vn3 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@MuscarV23 жыл бұрын
Usually in some places, sure, but very much not all over the globe. In most European countries things like this almost always get handled well.
@egggge47523 жыл бұрын
in the US lmao
@Shionlira3 жыл бұрын
I was at a Food court in a Shopping Center once with my mother when a super loud ear piercing alarm went off. Everyone around looked confused but no one exited the building and just resumed eating. We looked at the staff working around the restaurants and even they looked like they didn't know what to do. My mother and I packed our stuff and decided to exit the building. On our way out we smelled smoke and there where some firefighters going in the direction we came from. This just shows how freaky accidents like that happen. The staff are not instructed about what to do in this situation, and people just ignore alarms.
@CoraBuhlert3 жыл бұрын
When the L'Innovation department store in Brussels, Belgium, burned down in 1967, a lot of people in the top floor restaurant ignored the alarm to finish their lunch, until it was too late and the building was engulfed in flames, the escape route cut off. And because there had been anti-war protests (it was the height of the Vietnam war) going on outside the store, some employees thought the alarm had been triggered by fireworks set off by the protesters. In the end 251 people died. This would be a good subject to cover for this channel BTW.
@Codraroll3 жыл бұрын
At least the disconcerted staff show that something unusual is happening. If they brush it off with "don't worry, this happens all the time" you have no way of knowing whether things will be fine, or if a disaster is in progress.
@nevaehhamilton3493 Жыл бұрын
That's concerning, not to mention unethical on your manager's part
@Christinarina.3 ай бұрын
Please leave the building if able when you hear a fire alarm 😢
@eadaoinmurphy203 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting when you've never heard of them
@mookzmom3 жыл бұрын
As an American, I often find myself ashamed at all the disasters in other countries I never heard of.
@eadaoinmurphy203 жыл бұрын
@@mookzmom To be fair a lot of things happen before people are born and we weren't reminded of them, and at least you are hearing about them now and I'm saying this as an Irish person
@Koreviking3 жыл бұрын
You’ve never heard of it? It was all over the news!
@eadaoinmurphy203 жыл бұрын
@@Koreviking I mean I was seven or eight when this happened so there's a ten percent chance I forgot
@ravensthatflywiththenightm73193 жыл бұрын
Probably because the world is a bit too obsessed about laughing at disasters happening in America.
@scaryocean82723 жыл бұрын
I vividly remember this being everywhere in the news but thought no one outside of Latvia would care, thanks for covering this very local topic! There was also a brief moment of panic in the family because we thought that our father might have gone to that exact Maxima store on his way back home. Luckily, this wasn't the case.
@ariahazelwood38423 жыл бұрын
So glad for you! It is such a tragedy that I never heard of this (though I was a kid at the time so it makes sense) but now I won't forget it either. I bet you hugged him soooo hard when he came home with the groceries that day 💜
@Olhado2563 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, it was the biggest story of the day here in Poland
@lenomnom3 жыл бұрын
I know this is of no consolation at all, but it got quite a bit of news coverage in Austria following the collapse and then at the outcome of the trial. The feeling of shock how something like this could happen and the outrage over all the innocent lives lost in such a senseless and avoidable way was definitely felt beyond the Latvian border. While not on the forefront of my mind, I immediately knew what this video was going to be about when I saw the title. I’m glad your father was safe and I feel great sadness for all the families affected by this tragedy.
@aperson17643 жыл бұрын
I remember it from the Russian news
@felicitybywater80123 жыл бұрын
It was on the news here in Australia too. First, we have a decent sized Latvian migrant population and, second, it happened to our fellow human beings just going about their day. Live long and prosper, Latvia. And the same goes to everyone else ❤
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
This is the worst nightmare of every civil/structural engineer, but the ultimate fault here is lack of inspection. Was it Ivars Sergets who switched the long beams to short ones.. or the contractor? I'd love to see the original blueprints, but they're probably not online. Awesome video, as always! Thank you!
@zmbdog3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can't believe it all came down on him and everyone else was acquitted. That's pretty f*ed
@clray1233 жыл бұрын
@@zmbdog That's typical human "justice" - just need to find someone weak to blame to appease the mob.
@adde95063 жыл бұрын
Poor guy deserved to be punished. But he certainly shouldn't have been the only one. So what if everyone else passes the blame. Whatever idiot decided to put a garden on the roof, for one. Even if the original calculations had been right, it never would have supported that.
@reginaldbowls71803 жыл бұрын
@@zmbdog Yeah that is totally Effed
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
@@adde9506 Considering how many people this project had to go through before even breaking ground + afterwards.. it seems they've picked only this man as a scapegoat. Roof gardens & pools are common in NYC for example, but ofc gotta have those calcs down to the minutest degree, and the inspector should be on site during the entire construction to make sure contractors & subcontractors don't cut corners (most will attempt it, if no inspector on site). Whomever switched the beams did the most damage by far. Can't just switch shit like that, or we wouldn't need blueprints. It took a shitton of calcs to arrive at that particular SINGLE beam, and 2 same ones but shorter can't replace it. Doesn't work that way.
@Krystalmyth3 жыл бұрын
Respect to Latvia for taking accountability, and allow for change to come of this. You're better than most.
@reizak89663 жыл бұрын
So, the building had structural issues and a malfunctioning fire alarm... and instead of addressing these issues they approved the construction of a garden on the roof? That's both infuriating and disturbing.
@annarigolettoyxiris94393 жыл бұрын
I'm from Latvia and remember the incident covered live. Cannot imagine the terror of people buried, and lots of firemen and ambulances worked round the clock to try and save as many people, while locals bought them food and drink trying to help in any way they could. The collapse of the government was because of public outrage, as the investigation took an extremely long time and people didn't feel it was justified. Extremely sad day for all of us...
@nicholascoleman11313 жыл бұрын
As an architect, I appreciate that your channel often makes me aware of the consequences of the minutiae of my profession, and the real cost of our building code and regulation requirements. Thank you.
@ImmortalKat4ever3 жыл бұрын
"State inspection of buildings had been ELIMINATED." Jesus Christ, that's literally just asking for a disaster like this. I figured you were going to stay they switched to a cheaper inspector or something but nooo, that would be too reasonable.
@cope94893 жыл бұрын
I don't know why they didn't move money from somewhere else, less important into here, like they could've reduced the road budget (which pretty much gets wasted anyway) and moved that to safety
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
They pretty much all cost the same in the States. But you do want to follow them around so you understand the report. Helps if they make one laypeople can understand, too.
@wilkatis3 жыл бұрын
@@cope9489 probably because road budget - the joke that it is at the best of times - was pretty much eliminated aswell. Everyone has heard how Greece went bankrupt, trust me when I tell you Latvia was just a hairs width away from the same faith after the financial crisis.
@happyfacefries2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how the feel thought it was a good idea to cut back on spending by not only cutting inspections, but to cut them completely. I would then like to know who the hell also agreed that it was a good idea and agreed to it.
@Glory_be_to_Christ3 жыл бұрын
I discovered this channel about 9 months ago and I must say, there has never been a single one that hasn't kept me interested the whole way through, and I love the score you use for the vids
@sdraper20113 жыл бұрын
I love the music, too - it's perfect.
@reachandler36553 жыл бұрын
I concur. Informative, interesting and respectful.
@Laurenimaoo3 жыл бұрын
@@sdraper2011 absolutely, sometimes background music used in videos like these can be intrusive, but here is used and chosen perfectly
@enamis13 жыл бұрын
Hi, hello this happened in my home city! Very bizzare seeing a youtube video about it, and even more bizzare realizing how long its been since. It really was a huge event when it happened but by now its sort of faded to the backdrop as most disasters do. As we are a very small country practically everyone knew a friend-of-a-friend in this situation. I can tell a few extra anecdotes (thats the right word for it no?) from the locals. A family was taking extra time before checking out arguing about a frozen pizza when the roof went, and that argument basically saved them. Another acquaintance always went shopping at the same time every day but that day her son called and she didnt go at her usual time. I dont remember the specifics, but there were many people who heard the whole building creaking for a minute before the collapse, so it wasnt exactly 'without warning', though you cant expect people to know what to do in that situation. As I heard everyone who died basically did so instantly because of the concrete slabs, which is small mercy. Also fun tidbit, the ū is pronounced closer to a soft oo at the end of 'twO' then 'yue' as you did. So its more like Zoh-lih-too-deh. But good effort with the name.
@dacekundrate43913 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am so surprised that you covered Zolitūde tragedy. It was awful for us Latvians. Everyone was in shock. Our friend is construction engineer. We were talking with him about this disaster few days after it happened. He said that they had discussed this case at work and judging by the available photos they had concluded that inappropriate screws were used. Also, don't praise our Prime Minister. He only resigned, because he had a position in European Government and would have resigned anyway. No one really got punished. Only one man, who was used as a scapegoat. We had a lengthy trail. Victims got some compensation from Maxima, because they had very disgusting safety and work practices. And their attitude towards the tragedy was appalling. But the main villain, the building company, didn't suffer any consequences. They still exist and are one of main construction companies in Latvia. Everyone treated Maxima as the main culprit, even though they were only renting the space for shop. They didn't built it.
@jonathancarlson61273 жыл бұрын
“A deferral of responsibility…” Now that’s a perfect title for a feature length documentary on this.
@signijaopincane97283 жыл бұрын
i was 13 when this happened and i still remember waiting for updates on this, checking the news every few minutes
@richardglenn9973 жыл бұрын
Must've been scary
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97143 жыл бұрын
Un man bija 12, un es mierīgi dzīvoju savu dzīvi, jo ziņas neskatos.
@signijaopincane97283 жыл бұрын
@@richardglenn997 it was, especially because we didn’t know if two of our family members were in there or not, because they lived near there and usually got off work at that time
@signijaopincane97283 жыл бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 good for you.
@Gr95dc3 жыл бұрын
I'm a metallurgical engineer and this video made me remember what one of professors once said to my class: "a mistake in school cost you your grades, a mistake outside at work costs lives." So damn true, I feel some of this videos should be played at some classes to remind students that even small errors can cost multiple lives.
@gatewayofboredom3 жыл бұрын
ngl there's something interesting about hearing these obscure events plus there's no corners cut reading these events, which is why this channel is amazing
@zak3693 жыл бұрын
this isnt very obscure…. every anniversary of this the national television channels hold a moment of silence and dont have ads
@babecat20003 жыл бұрын
@@zak369 It is obscure for people from other countries who don't know.
@onesadtech3 жыл бұрын
Wow, as a Canadian who had never heard of this disaster, I want to thank you for bringing it to light for more people. Fantastically presented, as always. 👌
@noodle52833 жыл бұрын
"The foundation of the building requires repairs" I'm sorry, what?
@d4v0r_x3 жыл бұрын
new foundations were ordered on alibaba and shipped dhl express
@scotthenderson2923 жыл бұрын
@@d4v0r_x nah dude. Seriously? My brother used their services. Missed just ONE payment. They repossessed the foundation after just two days. A couple of men came and took it when no one was looking. Crooks, man. Crooks.
@felicitybywater80123 жыл бұрын
Yeah. "Hey, the foundations, the bits that hold the whole building up, need repair, so let's add more heavy stuff to the building before that's finished. I mean, what could go wrong, huh?".
@madnatty3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too…water in the foundations, recipe for disaster. Switching out beams, locked and loaded.
@u.v.s.55833 жыл бұрын
@@madnatty Water in foundations? No problem. We have nice winters in Latvia. The water will freeze and be stronger than concrete!
@UchihaMadara4012 жыл бұрын
When the mall was very new, me and my friends would sometimes climb the steep grass part right next to the main entrance and end up on the pebble filled lower level of the roof. They later placed a fence there so we couldn't do it anymore. Fun times. I was a 7th grader at the time, in a school that was minutes away from the mall. I remember I had a tutor over, we started hearing sirens in the middle of the lesson, then my grandma who had the radio on told us about the collapse, and we decided to cut the lesson short. The next day school started with the lesson where we would build stuff out of wood and such, and our teacher told us that when you half-ass your job - this is what happens. One of my classmates told us that he was on his way home from the mall when he heard the collapse. School was shortened that day, so naturally me and a few others went over to have a look ourselves. There were a lot of people: workers clearing the debris, rescuers, people waiting for their missing relatives who were there the whole night, volunteers handing out hot tea, food and blankets, reporters, we even saw the mayor giving an interview. Looking back, that was so surreal - the biggest tragedy in my country's history in god knows how many years, I can hardly believe I was even there. Nowadays the memorial is standing on the very parking lot. Next to it is a big metal roof covering the site of the collapse. None of the mall is left standing, but the apartment building that was being constructed as part of the mall is still standing - nearly finished from the outside, with only a couple pieces of sheathing missing. And even though it looks several decades more modern than the surrounding buildings, it will likely never be inhabited. Why they still haven't deconstructed it - I don't know.
@jmurray013 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about the second collapse on the news. Shocking and heartbreaking for those who lost their lives. Excellent video as always very well produced.
@1970boobear3 жыл бұрын
You take precautions 100% of the time for the .05% chance something could go wrong. Always worth it. ❤
@skylerricketts7392 Жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s “Pre-Caution” and we need more of them
@KiloOne3 жыл бұрын
I’m ecstatic you brought this to the forefront. Many didn’t know how catastrophic it was for us and still don’t now. We’re a nation that’s always had great tragedy surround it, from many hockey players dying in the midst of their careers to spending half our lifetime as a country under occupation. It’s through these tragedies, that we rise up from and hold ourselves against all odds. We will never die as long as our fire never burns out. Ūrā!
@runbyjunglered3 жыл бұрын
I hope some of the comments here are a comfort to you, to see how many people care. Loss of life on any scale is terrible, but when there's a massive, senseless loss of life like this, to a relatively small country, it's a strange, tragic thing. I'm sorry this terrible event happened. I pray Latvia has much better days waiting ahead.
@Rhymelie3 жыл бұрын
1:05 When a pet shop in the centre was mentioned, I dreaded hearing about what happened to it too, but the fact that nothing was mentioned made me feel worse. I don't want to undercut a tragedy towards humans, but I can't help but feel bad for those animals that died, trapped and terrified as well
@denisecastellanos486611 ай бұрын
Bringing up concern for animals does not in any way undercut the loss of human life. That would be like saying that animal rescues should not exist because there is still human suffering in the world. For many people in the world animals are family. Even the animals that cannot be kept as pets, and would likely eat you. They matter, our deep seated kinship with animals matters, and the fact that they matter does not diminish the value of my own life.
@markusstrauss19633 жыл бұрын
As a Latvian, I thank you for exploring this disastrous event in this video, I remember staying up late at night and watching live news coverage of how it all unraveled, I couldn't sleep for days.
Just small changes would've fixed everything. Some shortcuts can be absolutely life changing.
@ursodermatt88093 жыл бұрын
any short cut will come back to bite eventually
@smilesfordays3 жыл бұрын
Life ending
@donwoodward79443 жыл бұрын
Thanks FH for another interesting episode! We blindly assume all buildings and structures we use every day are safe, but there are structures out there *right now* that could collapse at any moment. It sometimes just has to come down to bad luck. May those who perished in this senseless tragedy rest in peace.
@Codraroll3 жыл бұрын
I kinda wonder how many such episodes were seconds from happening, but then didn't because somebody made a random change of plans. A building owner who cheaped out and chose not to add a rooftop garden after all. A colleague looking over the shoulder of an engineer and saying "Whoops, buddy, you shouldn't draw beams bolted together like that". Some worker on the construction site looking twice at his instructions, then objecting to the choice of bolts. A random engineer visiting the supermarket, looking at the ceiling with a frown, and sending a fortuitous email to the building authorities once he gets home. So many tiny coincidences create disasters all the time, so logically there must be all sorts of tiny coincidences that prevent them all the time too.
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
2am. I know I shouldn't be watching horrorific stuff before sleep, but it's not just any horror.. it's a FASCINATING HORROR upload, and those are not to be missed no matter what!
@AwkwardKidAdventures3 жыл бұрын
LOL I had to start watching these during the day for that reason. Also, the music is unsettling enough that if I watched it at night, I started imagining things in the shadows after I went to bed. 😅
@A_Ducky3 жыл бұрын
@@AwkwardKidAdventures 👀 Now I read that, I'll probably see some shiz tonight, lol. *Sealing closets shut*
@marcg2103 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned the single steel bars being replaced with 2 and a bolt, I immediately thought of the Hyatt Hotel in Kansas City, which you covered in a video.
@harmlesscreationsofthegree12483 жыл бұрын
Rooftop gardens that get retrofitted to buildings not initially designed to hold them are a really bad idea.
@tabby733 жыл бұрын
Rooftop gardens are much more heavy than people think. Engineers should know that tho.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Isn't it supposed to be VERY overbuilt? I know lots of condos that were factories. I'd stake my life they're going nowhere. Whole place is full of insanely overbuilt features for residential.
@eesti9193 жыл бұрын
AFAIK they even didn't use special low-weight hollow-concrete gravel (as written in project) but instead a typical simple soil...
@RXSVN_23 жыл бұрын
@@eesti919 afaik?
@eesti9193 жыл бұрын
@@RXSVN_2 As Far As I Know
@3M3R3L3 жыл бұрын
This man is the real Lemony Snicket with his series of unfortunate events.
@tracid3033 жыл бұрын
Hey Fascinating Horror, have you considered covering the Granville train disaster in Sydney Australia? Was quite the horror story, would like to see you cover it. All the best mate!
@geepuller13 жыл бұрын
I've thought this for a while now. Hope he reads it.
@KJAkk3 жыл бұрын
Check out Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions for train disasters. kzbin.infovideos
@felicitybywater80123 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Granville was horrific. I was a child when it played out on the evening news. Later, as an adult, I had to pass through Granville station on my way to work every morning.
@tracid3033 жыл бұрын
@@felicitybywater8012 wow, that must have been a bit freaky. Was in NSW last December and we drove over the bridge that collapsed. Was an eerie feeling.
@ImplodedAtom3 жыл бұрын
Wait, so public officials held their hands up to their part in the disaster, took the consequences, and there was important and lasting change as a result? Wow.
@ricojes3 жыл бұрын
Makes Halley's comet fly-bys seem like a frequent occurrence.
@aewtx3 жыл бұрын
There shouldn't have even been anybody trapped. There was a prior fire alarm. Everyone should have been evacuated, even if they thought it was a false alarm, out of precaution. That store was negligent.
@Coygon3 жыл бұрын
When you get an alarm every other day, and they're all (seemingly) false, it doesn't take long before you just ignore them. What should have happened is that a thorough inspection and repair into the alarms should have been done, rather than just shrugging them off as faulty or oversensitive and continuing as normal.
@aewtx3 жыл бұрын
@@Coygon That was a business establishment. Yes, they should have gotten it checked out, but it doesn't mean they could get complacent about the alarms in the meantime.
@MarsJenkar3 жыл бұрын
@@Coygon See also: The Boy who Cried Wolf.
@BigHenFor3 жыл бұрын
The Store wasnt negligent alone. The owners of the building were. They installed the fire alarm system and didn't bother checking it. A system of mandatory annual check and testing for fire alarms would have emsured faults were caught early. Plus, there should be a Whistleblower Law, so that stuff like this can be reported without fears of reprisal. It's the lack of a distinct safety culture that asks "What could go wrong?" and puts a statutory duty on employers and employees in workplaces to safeguard health and safety in the workplace. Perhaps that's what should be established. They shouldn't wait until regulations have to be written in the blood of victims. Plus, the lack of statutory building and fire inspection is troubling. The fact that the building did not survive more than 6 years shows how bad the structual engineer did his job.
@aewtx3 жыл бұрын
@@BigHenFor Yes, of course there were others to fault, but the owners shouldn't have just let people say in there, regardless if whether or not it was a false alarm. That's basic business operations.
@nintendoeats3 жыл бұрын
Much like Hyatt Plaza, this reminds us of man's greatest enemy: structural change orders.
@xXspottyXx3 жыл бұрын
False alarms are dangerous,bc if they happen too often, people ignore them even when things get serious/dangerous
@sophierobinson27383 жыл бұрын
I watched the USCSB videos and that is a major factor of many of the disasters they investigated.
@xXspottyXx3 жыл бұрын
@@sophierobinson2738 ok,can I ask what USCSB is 👀
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
I leave right when I hear one, so no matter to me.
@xXspottyXx3 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 same kinda
@MaithSin13 жыл бұрын
Every episode on this channel is a Final Destination sequel pitch. Scary stuff - very well delivered- respectful and insightful. Don’t know why we are so obsessed with morbid stories but I’ll definitely be watching many more of these videos, as many commenters have stated also!
@Louisa.Bowman233 жыл бұрын
Cutting costs and Cutting corners. When will they learn that the safety of other peoples lives matter more🙁🙁
@AwkwardKidAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Only after those people die and they get in trouble for it, unfortunately. I'd like to HOPE that would change someday, but judging by the precedent, I don't think it'll happen. :(
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
When they actually face serious jail time?
@egg-mr4kf2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to finally see someone outside our country even mention this tragedy. I was 13, and kind of shocked at what i was seeing on TV, so my memory from the event isn't perfect, but i distinctly remember seeing one of the collapses (the second, i assume), in the background of a live interview. It was also the first time i heard uncensored swearing on TV. The thing that stuck to me the most from the tragedy, was when me and my mom took the bus to the site the next day, to put down a candle. We saw an older man standing by the fence that had been put up. He had been waiting for someone who was inside. As far as I know, no more survivors were found after that.
@rogersheddy64143 жыл бұрын
Do you know, with all of these shopping center collapses, I'm kind of thinking it shouldn't be really rocket science... So perhaps all of the engineers should get together in an International Convention and work up engineering standards for shopping centers. You know, something complete with tolerances that should never be violated so as to prevent any further deaths from various collapses and fires and all the rest. I remember that English one with the LSD smoking dripping plastic window panes, and I kind of think that they could actually compartmentalize things - - that is, this type of space is for shopping commons, this space is what the typical strip of sales booths will look like, here is how the security and sanitation structure will be put together... And, of course, the different types of roofs and how they will be built, depending on whether parking is permitted or they are going to try to put some sort of freaky Garden on top of it. An international-standard could be created using tolerances and Mathematics, and would be eminently provable. Besides which, almost any and every nation could abide by these things, unlike fishing treaties. Funny, I made my comment even before watching the video... And then we get to 2:20...
@sdraper20113 жыл бұрын
Well done, as usual, FH. That memorial is elegant.
@ExtremeSpeedMewtwo3 жыл бұрын
You should do the Harold Shipman Incident. Very interesting to delve into, plus it seems exactly like your type of video!
@mammasprofils744 Жыл бұрын
As a Latvian, i remember this tragedy. I was 11 at the time. I got Home from my children’s artschool lessons at around 6pm and my mom said that a roof of a supermarket in Riga collapsed. We didnt think much of it at first because a similar thing happened at a Home depot type of store’s warehouse recently in my town. A few hours later, as I was going to bed I saw my mom in tears by the tv, in realisation of the tragedy that has occurred. For the next few days it felt like the entire country had stopped. The internet was full of stories about last texts, eye whitenesses and counting every single dead victim found. About a year later I actually got to drive past the site and it felt so chilling yet pretty forgotten. I am happy that this story is being covered and the light is shined on the issues that caused this massive tragedy. Thank you.
@nedk093 жыл бұрын
As a Civil Engineer this is scary. We all have off days and make mistakes. The key thing is to have a very strict checking procedure to pick up any mistakes or overlooked elements and good communication between the team on site and the designers so that any changes due to site conditions or ease of construction can be safely implemented. These things were obviously lacking in this case.
@STARDRIVE3 жыл бұрын
It wasn´t deliberate, nor negligence. Still he gets 6 years... The politicians just got fired. A similar number of victims in traffic would be seen as an accident, where nobody goes to jail if not speeding or drunk. Jail for the civil engineer doesn´t make sense, with nobody checking his work.
@bluecollie55_movies253 жыл бұрын
This is sad. I am in solidarity with the people of Latvia over this disaster. It is very similar the Sampoong Mall collapse in South Korea. Both tragedies had people at yet another moment of work or shopping in a big place of commercial retail, selling and shopping. Then very quickly all of the sudden the environment quickly crumbles and caves in, trapping many innocent human beings inside, with some getting killed.
@neptunesedge91233 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see this tragedy being talked about, I commented about it a while ago. I remember all of this unfolding on tv since it happened in my city.
@NewsHistorian3 жыл бұрын
Remarkable how a national government actually takes responsivity for failures.
@galdavonalgerri21013 жыл бұрын
You are very right. I cannot imagine a single politician in my country (Germany) would resign under these circumstances.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Agree. But: "responsibility."
@adde95063 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a bit different. These government officials were the people who decided that previously existing safety measures were unimportant. Not proven to be overkill, just a good place to cut costs. That's a new one for me. They have no defense. If it wasn't for their obviously bad decision, someone would have questioned the math and the changes.
@DisasterthonTrueHorror3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this one. Good job man!
@Lisa_05193 жыл бұрын
Wow! So cool that you also support (Watch & comment) FH👍🏼 I enjoy both channels very much📽
@DisasterthonTrueHorror3 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_0519 FH has shouted me out a few times and has really helped me with my channel , talked for a few months now! He’s A great guy :)
@donnawoodman62493 жыл бұрын
@@DisasterthonTrueHorror I am subscribed to both of you. ♥️
@DisasterthonTrueHorror3 жыл бұрын
@@donnawoodman6249 thankyou!! 😁
@corivian3 жыл бұрын
You’re such a talented storyteller, never knew that was a thing
@Cheriwrites753 жыл бұрын
"Metal fatigue that had been going on for years." Yes, all 2 years the building stood. Built in 2011, fell in 2013. Seriously.
@SuznSunshine3 жыл бұрын
This is so similar to the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse. Making changes to a design without checking with an engineer first can lead to disaster. Many branches stapled together does not equal a tree.
@cathystockton27213 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another one. Another possible story: "The Children's Blizzard" of January 12, 1888, Minnesota
@ShelBelSapphire3 жыл бұрын
oh hey i live there and dont think ive heard this one. id love to see this one covered here.
@donnawoodman62493 жыл бұрын
I have watched a documentary on this, so sad but with amazing heroes. ♥️
@Badazitan3 жыл бұрын
Please never change the music for this - it's haunting but not too over the top
@wildcat12273 жыл бұрын
*sighs deeply in disaster first responder* Why do governments always turn down help? Having fresh, well rested people come in is so important.
@ferelith-NZ3 жыл бұрын
Ego.
@ricojes3 жыл бұрын
Not wanting to ever be indebted frequently trumps sensible acceptance of assistance.
@wildcat12273 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the replies, although I definitely meant this rhetorically. I know the answer, its money. Isn't it always? Especially if they don't already have mutual aid agreements in place, the governments are gonna end up arguing over who is paying all those workers' wages (I've had my paycheck delayed by 6+ months by this nonsense) so they stick with employees and volunteers. 🤷♀️
@MattMetalMayho3 жыл бұрын
I’m recovering from a leg operation stuck in a cast. I went through to entire back catalogue 2 days ago and have been kinda sad so don’t have more to watch…then you dropped this! Perfect timing, I love these. The tone, the detail the editing, the timing all perfect! Well done and thanks.
@annegrey37803 жыл бұрын
so cool that you covered this! And holy shit Latvia I'm impressed by how intense you guys are about holding government accountable.
@StopTV-sj7sd2 жыл бұрын
If you scale up the lives lost in this incident to bigger countries you truely get a perspectiv on how severe this is for latvia. Some examples: Germany ~1.2k, USA ~4.6k, China 20k. Truely terrible for any life that was lost. Edit: removed the "western" from "western countries" cuz why does that matter
@QT56563 жыл бұрын
Fascinating Horror would do an excellent job of covering the miracle of the Andes: when Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 crashed into a mountain and onto a glacier whilst carrying 45 passengers and crew, including 19 members of the Old Christians Club rugby union team.
@richardglenn9973 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS IDEA. i know the story and watched documentaries on it but i do want to see how he'd cover it!! But If you want him to respond, i recommend you email him. He will be sure to read it and add it to his long long list
@snwfxnglcrcst3 жыл бұрын
maybe I'm mixing him up with another channel rn, but I think he's already done a video about that?
@thefonzkiss3 жыл бұрын
Dozens of documentaries on that already.
@QT56563 жыл бұрын
@@thefonzkiss I still think Fascinating Horror would do a great job of covering it. Whenever this channel has covered familiar incidents it's always managed to provide some novel view points.
@Whatlander3 жыл бұрын
@@snwfxnglcrcst I feel like Ask a Mortician maybe did a video about a rugby team that got stranded? Or maybe I'm mixing things up further. EDIT: It was called "The Rugby Team that Fell from the Sky" But yes, This channel can always provide a unique and tasteful account of events, no matter who's covered them.
@DyronBean Жыл бұрын
Please don't ever change! This channel is golden!
@paulroberts36393 жыл бұрын
A government that takes responsibility for its failings. If it wasn’t so cold, I’d move to Latvia just to see that.
@RoboBoddicker3 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty wild. Like imagine if the US President resigned because a mall collapsed in Milwaukee. I respect it though.
@ChristionGirl453 жыл бұрын
A lot of these stories I've never heard about before, I'm glad I found this channel. I really enjoy these short documentary's! They may be short, but I learn so much in the short period of time! 😊
@RileyLulich3 жыл бұрын
Always nice to wake up to another well made video covering a little-known international case!
@UnknownOps3 жыл бұрын
Knowing you cover unheard or lesson-known incidents is always welcome. Hearing the same incident over and over again feels cheap.
@gerardacronin3343 жыл бұрын
While you may not have heard of this incident, many commenters on this video are from Latvia and are all too familiar with it.
@saxboi11443 жыл бұрын
Not only is it interesting when the stories seem to be relatively unheard of to everyone except those who experienced them, but it's also really interesting when the events are recent. With incidents such as this one, you would think we would know better by now.
@ishouldprobablybevacuuming73753 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing these lesser known but ever so tragic events to light across the world - a service in both sharing the victim's stories and such events more broadly than they otherwise are and, maybe equally importantly in underlining the value of being honest, conscientious and qualified when charged with human life no matter what your occupation or position. I know you have so many requests, but could you please put the Lac-Megantic train derailment disaster on your list? It was a terrible (and avoidable) tragedy not too long ago that occurred up here in Canada (Quebec) in 2013, that killed dozens of citizens and burned down a large section of the town. It was absolutely horrific and the respect and factual detail which you give these tragic events is of great comfort. Thank you for everything you do.
3 жыл бұрын
I still remember this disaster like it was yesterday, that day I wanted to do shopping but had to stay late at work, it was the saddest outcome. But I am grateful for this event being recognized globally, normally it doesn't reach further than the Baltic States and Russia, however, I will criticize the government's decision to turn down the aid from neighboring countries, just to appear more independent and capable, pathetic in my eyes.
@ricardslatvia3 жыл бұрын
As a Latvian person, i am delighted about this video! I remember this being all over the news when it happened, i was around 10 years old at the time, huge and devastating news all over Latvia!
@MarthaRoseMoore4153 жыл бұрын
I've now seen enough of these structural collapses to know that switching a long beam for multiple shorter beams, bolted together is A HUGE PROBLEM. Hoping that engineers out there are also taking note.
@chunkystains89503 жыл бұрын
Structural engineer here. I've never seen a beam splice without a column within 18" of it. Pretty crazy it got approved by multiple checkers including engineers, architects, & the equipment manufacturers in charge of the gardens above. Then again I've questions some of OUR designs before and am always told to just do as the arch's say. Like OKAY but...well...let's just say if a cannabis factory in NJ collapses do to a very large beam holding a very heavy chiller....I tried to warn them.
@aperturius3 жыл бұрын
Wow, imagine people taking responsibility for their mistakes. Good on ya, Latvia.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Please see Cocoanut Grove fire compared to The Station fire in 2003. There's 12 similarities. Both had a fall guy who lit the match. But took total responsibility for it each time. Stanley Tomaszevits (sp?) I think and Dan Biechle at the other. Everyone else didn't know nothing and did nothing wrong.
@quillmaurer65633 жыл бұрын
Interesting that it involved metal fatigue - I'm not involved in civil engineering (have a degree in mechanical), I'd not think of fatigue as an issue on a building, as loads are pretty much static. Metal fatigue is usually an issue on things that move, cyclical loads. As for the roof garden, was that part of the original design, or added later without investigating if the structure was capable of supporting the weight? That seems like an obvious concern, but I've heard many stories of things added that weren't part of something's original design that overloaded what wasn't originally built for it because they didn't adequately consider this. The fire alarm - I see that as actually a lucky situation, it's malfunction caused some people to evacuate who otherwise would have been in the collapse. Had they fixed that, probably more would have died - I doubt fixing that would have discovered the problems nor would the properly-functioning fire alarm go off leading up to the collapse. One of those situations where things are so messed up that one problem actually helped alleviate another. This really reflects well on the Latvian society and government that they accepted responsibility for insufficient inspections, when in so many other cases inspectors are not punished even for letting slide problems they were well aware of. This was a combination of mistakes and insufficient inspections, as far as could be told here there wasn't anyone actually aware of but ignoring or covering a dangerous fault. Compare with the recent Surfside Condo collapse (which we all know will be a future Fascinating Horror video once enough information is known and published) where the building owners and government inspectors were all well aware of the problems yet did nothing. Overall Lativa seems like such an amazing place, I'd love to visit there someday.
@sister_bertrille9113 жыл бұрын
"For want of a nail the kingdom was lost." Or in this case, a bolt.
@boogiemcsploogie3 жыл бұрын
This is the only channel I consistently click on the new videos for. Keep up the good work!
@oatseawong66643 жыл бұрын
If you seen what happened in Sampoong shopping mall in South Korea in 1995, that’s more horror.
@Codraroll3 жыл бұрын
That whole event was a conga line of bad, bad ideas. Here, one engineer was found at fault because nobody checked his calculations, and you kinda have to be a trained engineer to understand why the chosen solution was a bad one. At Sampoong, so many people were involved in multiple different decisions that seem obviously terrible even at a quick glance. In hindsight, the surprising thing about that mall is how it didn't collapse sooner.
@shannont50493 жыл бұрын
Can you do the Sewol Ferry Tragedy? You’re always so respectful when speaking about these tragedies while highlighting the importance of the horrendous errors that cause them. I learned so much from that incident even though I live on the opposite end of the world.
@AissurDrol3 жыл бұрын
Impressive that the government took responsibility for this.
@zak3693 жыл бұрын
i was surprised too, i remember hearing the news, but this was so horrible the people wouldnt let them get away with this.
@CinnastixChick3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how much I enjoy the music in the intro and outro of these videos. Iconic.
@paperizzy3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine just ignoring fire alarms.
@spacekadet833 жыл бұрын
I work in a security monitoring centre, many times I have been told not to worry about smoke or fire alarms.
@blackosprey22193 жыл бұрын
Context, my friend. When the alarm is tripped constantly for no reason, people stop taking them seriously.
@_kaleido3 жыл бұрын
@@blackosprey2219 Yeah, it basically becomes a “boy who cried wolf” situation
@als30223 жыл бұрын
Same issue in the mall I work at. Fire alarms make people pause, but if no other sound they ignore. And the employees tune it out
@clray1233 жыл бұрын
A constant alarm is worse than no alarm at all. See handling of the pandemic.
@jessh53102 жыл бұрын
Many fire alarms are triggered when the current in the cables changes, It could be when the building sagged a bit it was enough to pull the cabling and cause the fire alarm to think someone or a fire had tripped the system. Many fire alarms in the UK send a pulse down the wire and if not returned in a timely manner the alarm will sound.
@QT56563 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Fascinating Horror has gone back to this piano based background music.
@Serpent5113 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, this title in my recommended list caught me off guard, especially by your channel, had to re-read what I saw, I must be imagining it, there's no way you made a video about my country. Can't really remember much about it, other than I was just 13 years old and saw it on the news channel. I hope the perpetrators burn in hell. Now onto the video, haven't watched it yet, still can't believe someone made a video about our country, that's just how we are. I wasn't related to anyone or know anyone of mine who died there, but still rest in peace.