FAST Solenoid Engine With Throttle Lever Speed Control

[@Creeperboy099]

The fact that this thing sounds like a diesel is so satisfying And also watching that speed lever moving like the governor arm on a Detroit diesel

[@InterdimensionalWiz]

Delightful...I never really thought of making a motor so simply! excellent!

[@knusperwurst]

This Solution for the Speedcontroll is like a mechanical pwm ^^

[@wanglydiaplt]

Hey that speed control is really clever! :-)

[@davidrobert2007]

Thanks!

[@meadowsirl]

Took me a while to see the tape part. :-D

[@ashyouknow7420]

Yeah

[@KarlsLabReport]

LOVE the sound that thing makes, as well as the construction of it!!

[@MrPafleouf]

the speed control idea is really simple and seems to work well !! praise the almighty tape !

[@davidrobert2007]

It is the best solution I have found yet, from the point of view of controllability.

[@lennox1558]

It is the best solenoid engine i ever seen

[@olivia-jtrans5693]

This is amazing, thanks-- You're a real genius.

[@g1hau]

So at the fastest position, the rotary switch is 50% copper, 50% tape - i.e. the magnet is energised for the entire "pull" stroke and naturally released for the "push" stroke, together making a single revolution of the rotary-switch & flywheel. Is it worth trying a push-pull solenoid to apply force for both strokes, ie almost the entire revolution?

[@davidrobert2007]

You got it. I have made an engine with a push - pull solenoid, to replicate a steam engine, but generally it's easier to just use two or more solenoids (or twelve) to fill in the gaps.

[@MmpM123YT]

I was just thinking about that

[@Natsumidragneelkim]

have you try to make a 36v gen and regulate it down to 24v and see if it run as a stand alone unit by outputting more watts then watts inputting

[@SamnissArandeen]

You even made mechanical pulsewidth modulation. Nice. Makes me wanna rip it off and replace with an astable 555 timer.

[@davidrobert2007]

What's an asstable 555 timer do?

[@SamnissArandeen]

It switches back and forth between high and low output states on its own, very very very rapidly.

[@davidrobert2007]

Interesting. Will do some research. Thanks.

[@SamnissArandeen]

555 timers are awesome. Lots of things you can do.

[@cosmavergari5727]

davidrobert2007 I suppose any square wave oscillator could do the same job, anyway. I think (and I am probably making a huge mistake) that an ATtinyXX/Arduino/Arduino alternatives could work as well and even do other measurements/actions such as RPM meter, led driver, computer interfacing, remote control (whatever you want with a low cost)! If you need help in this matter feel free to ask me.

[@davmac6148]

Try using nitinol springs the output power and rpm .... well more POWER....

[@spiderspyview3335]

Mich täte neben der Betriebsspannung auch der Betriebstrom interessieren. Was fressen den deine Maschinchen so mengenmäßig Ampere-technisch?

[@davidrobert2007]

400mA maximum.

[@spiderspyview3335]

+davidrobert2007 jo,sehr schön...Danke...:)

[@davidrobert2007]

Bitte.

[@THOMASTHESAILOR]

Nice Job. Do You have a lathe to make the crank parts ?? Why the gloves ? Is it Toxic ?

[@davidrobert2007]

Thanks! - no machining or lathe work was needed to build this - the crankshaft / flywheel was harvested from scrap machinery - and the gloves are just to keep my hands clean.

[@The_comentator]

I really want to build one myself but I cant get any information about it at all. Can somebody please help?

[@digambarprasadsah5676]

Please show how you make that awesome project

[@SFORSANDEEP]

Would you please explain how your speed control works. thats awesome...

[@davidrobert2007]

Yes, of course. The bare copper part of the rotary switch is positioned so that the solenoid only switches on when the piston is in a position to pull and turn the crankshaft, and will switch off before the piston is all the way in, allowing the crankshaft to freewheel and pull the piston out again. To increase engine speed I simply move the yellow wire to a wider part of the bare copper triangle, so that the piston receives a longer magnetic power pulse. Thanks for commenting.

[@yanrpopoff2804]

love it and would want one lol great build bud

[@Emmanuel-sb7tz]

yea osha would love the safety features here.

[@Hoopty91]

Good thing this isn't an industrial motor being utilized for work...-_- Its a novelty item, and a piece of working art;)

[@manuelhc123]

hola como conectaste el transistor???

[@MattsMotorz]

I am confused. In the description you say the solenoid is only operating at 50 Hz, but how can that translate into 3000 RPM?? In my mind, "in and out" means one revolution.

[@davidrobert2007]

3000rpm = 50 crankshaft revolutions per second = 50 "in and outs" of the piston per second = 50Hz

[@MattsMotorz]

Oh yeah! Of course! I was confusing 50 Hz with 50 RPM.Thanks

[@davidrobert2007]

MattsMotorz No problem bro

[@Loki-lz5us]

Can you show us the electrical system ? Nice, engine.

[@davidrobert2007]

I will include a circuit diagram in the next video of this engine, which doesn't look like this any more ;)

[@davidrobert2007]

I have now uploaded the video of the upgraded engine and have included the circuit diagram. Thanks for your comment by the way.

[@Blessedlungs]

How does your speed control work? im trying to build a solenoid engine and im gunna need speed control.

[@davidrobert2007]

This one uses a piece of copper water pipe covered in electrical tape with a triangle cut out of the tape to reveal bare copper. When the yellow wire is in contact with the bare copper triangle the solenoid is switched on, simply move the wire to a wider part of the triangle to give the solenoid a longer duration of on time. I hope this helps explain it.

[@hartejps1]

can elaborate on the energy efficiency as compared to a electric motor with similar power input.

[@davidrobert2007]

Efficiency is very poor in comparison.

[@sergemoussadji1630]

Hi i am really intreasted on your project if it is posible for you to make a video which shows in detail on how to make the Free Energy Generator please thank you

[@DarkQwerzar]

what...why this should be a "free generator"? A solenoid use electricity, and in this case 24 V of intensity...where is the "free"? -.-

[@DarkQwerzar]

what...why this should be a "free generator"? A solenoid use electricity, and in this case 24 V of intensity...where is the "free"? -.-

[@geropino9480]

amazing project, that motor is conected to 12v battery or electric current?

[@davidrobert2007]

Thanks! The engine runs on 24v dc from an Apple Mac power supply.

[@geropino9480]

thanks very much for the answer :)

[@Wolfenion]

So if I'm not mistaken, just like an internal combustion engine, the solenoid only pushes one way? Is the flywheel providing the inertia for the solenoid to move back into it's "firing" position?

[@davidrobert2007]

The solenoid engine piston pulls, rather than pushes to turn the crankshaft, so it is only one way, just the opposite way round compared to a combustion engine. You are correct the flywheel provides momentum to move the solenoid back into its firing position.

[@Wolfenion]

davidrobert2007 Ahhhh, thank you :) I'm putting this down as a future project.

[@theguitskin1834]

How powerful is it?I don't know how to phrase this precisely but if you have to compare it to a standard dc electric motor what will be the watt equivalence?

[@davidrobert2007]

It is not powerful at all and is very inefficient when compared to a standard dc motor - the engine here is more a novelty item / executive toy

[@แจ๊คแอสฟักทอง]

If I don’t have transistor in this circuit, how does it happen about control switch?

[@davidrobert2007]

You can run the control switch in one of the solenoid wires, it might spark and burn the switch though. I hope this helps.

[@แจ๊คแอสฟักทอง]

davidrobert2007 Thank you

[@AlphaNerd132]

Alright. 1: wouldnt the solenoid overheat rather fast? and 2. What possible use could this have?

[@davidrobert2007]

1: Not if it's running within its rated voltage 2: It's a novelty item.

[@cellman64]

this is invention is the second thing after electircity :D good job. greetings

[@siddharthakhadka1087]

plz show the process of making it

[@dirtydogvideo]

yeah I have to agree...I love that flashy yellow, patent pending, three way knot, one end stuck in the wood, throttle control apparatus.....pure genius....how long did it take to draw that fucker out on paper!....lol

[@cellman64]

hi david. greetings. can you tell me has the selenoid a special name for trading? i mean how can find and in which name i search google ? thank u

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi - the solenoid model is SOLEN 121E16530 www.esr.co.uk/electronics/switches-solenoid.htm hope this helps

[@cellman64]

+davidrobert2007 thank you so much :)

[@kingjp1229]

how where you able to increase the speed of the enegine

[@davidrobert2007]

The yellow wire can move sideways on the rotating switch, this will give a shorter or longer power pulse to the solenoid and therefore adjust the engine speed.

[@mythbuster204]

what is the current at that 24V max throttle and 3000 RPM ? And what is current at max throttle but when you put some load and RPM drop to half? And what is inductance of that coil?

[@davidrobert2007]

I haven't actually measured the current yet - I will be building a "dashboard" soon which will show voltage, current and engine rpm so that should show more.

[@mythbuster204]

davidrobert2007 ok, keep me up to date. It seams you have built highest rpm solenoid motor so far.

[@davidrobert2007]

***** I measured it the other day, under "no load" conditions the engine draws about 150mA, and on full throttle, under heavy load it draws a maximum of 500mA. I'm not sure about the inductance of the coil but if you google the solenoid part number "121E16530" you can get all the specs for it. I'm not sure if it is the fastest solenoid engine on you tube, as user z28ss96 built a v8 that is faster than this one. Check my channel in a week or so, as I will be uploading a V12 solenoid motor, just as soon as I've finished building it :)

[@fredrikh2003]

where do you get these piston things???

[@davidrobert2007]

ebay - search for "solenoids".

[@nithianathan7962]

Hi could someone explain how the timing of energizing the solenoid is controlled? My understanding is that (assuming that the piston is extended when solenoid is turned off) when the solenoid is turned off, the piston extends. So in a high speed application like this how to correctly time the solenoid to energize to retract the piston?

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi. The solenoid switches on when the yellow wire is in contact with the bare copper part of the rotating switch. The solenoid piston pulls inwards when switched on. The yellow wire moves to a wider part of bare copper on the rotating switch, this gives a longer duration of solenoid on time, and results in faster engine speed. You can see this better in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpqpoKF4p7CEoZI hope that helps.

[@nithianathan7962]

@@davidrobert2007 I understand now. So with a longer duration of the solenoid time combined with the higher speed, does that mean that solenoid is turned on even when the piston is extending

[@davidrobert2007]

The longer duration of the solenoid "on time" is what causes the higher speed. The solenoid must be switched off when the piston is extending, or it opposes the speed.

[@nithianathan7962]

@@davidrobert2007 thank you for your replies. What you're saying makes sense. But when I look at the video at 3000rpm, the yellow wire is almost in contact with the copper constantly. At such high speeds how would you go about designing the contact area in a way knowing when the piston is fully extended and retracted.

[@davidrobert2007]

The rotary switch and the piston are mechanically connected, so that the solenoid will always switch off when the piston is fully in, and it will switch on only when the piston is fully out, or travelling back in. I know it looks like the yellow wire is almost constantly in contact with the copper part of the rotating switch, but it is actually switching on and off many times per second. At 3,000 rpm the yellow wire switches the solenoid on and off 50 times per second, perfectly synchronized with the position of the crankshaft and piston.

[@jjwarner9419]

Could this be used to power anything? Say, a desk fan?

[@bona-fide]

JJ Warner im not a master at this but until some one who is comes...yes it can, though it IS converting an electrical current to rotation, the conventional dynamo(motor) does the work far more efficiently, (meaning u get more rotation with less wattage) as for why a solenoid motor over a conventional motor, i dont see the reason, but it is my assumption that it has an engineering benefit somehow.

[@davidrobert2007]

Agreed with above. The only benefit of the solenoid engine is that it can replicate a piston engine, so it is for educational / entertainment purposes only, as it is very inefficient at converting electrical energy into kinetic energy.

[@jjwarner9419]

davidrobert2007 Ah, thanks.

[@김태익-u5q]

wow. it's so interesting. may i ask about your solenoid engine? what is the work 2n3055 transistor? control speed? or for solenoid plunger moving?

[@davidrobert2007]

The 2n3055 transistor amplifies the small current of the rotary switch and feeds it to the solenoid coil. I hope this helps ;-)

[@dclc012]

Thank you very much, keep up!- Wudy C.

[@milkparker4479]

How much torque does this thing have?

[@davidrobert2007]

Not much torque for the power input compared to a regular electric motor.

[@thecharlesfickle3647]

Can you do a tutorial on atleast the single engine? :)

[@milkparker4479]

I WAS HOPPING DOWN THE RAILROAD AND THEN GOT HIT BY A HORSE RIDING A CHICKEN IN A COWS UTERUS

[@thecharlesfickle3647]

? lol

[@bartolj.4502]

***** can you tell me what's the voltage? and if you can tell me if you were selling that engine what would be the price? pls answer

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi, it runs on 24 volts dc. If I were to sell it I would put it on ebay auction and let the buyer decide the price. But that would probably never happen.

[@bartolj.4502]

davidrobert2007 Thank you for answering ;). I like that engine and i am gonna build a solenoid engine but not with a speed controler but anyways could you send me some photos how exactly does speed controler looks like. If you want to send me that photos i ll give you email address

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi, the speed controller is just what you see here, it's just a bit of copper water pipe and some electrical tape. You could include a speed control with your engine, it makes it much more fun.

[@bartolj.4502]

davidrobert2007 i didn't think it's simple as that, thanks for your answer but i wont' build a speed controler because i have no tools for building, only tool i have is a glue gun :( , yesterday i foud a three stage transformer in my garage two coils are ruined but one is very good, there are obout 50 000 turns o.o i hope that means more power i ll try to run it on 9V battery and i hope it ll work :D

[@jesusedgarmosquedarivera5795]

como hiciste el cambio de velocidad

[@anoopchandran1609]

can any one plz tell me how many turns of winding does it have the solenoid plzz and if it comes to efficiency how wil u calculate it the input will be magnetic field force for A given length and what will be the output and efficiency if anything wrong plz crct me i ll b thankful for ur help

[@subhash2428]

send me the link where you have uploaded circuit diagram

[@davidrobert2007]

Circuit diagram is at the very end of the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpqpoKF4p7CEoZI

[@mohdzeeshan7793]

minimum voltage required??????

[@davidrobert2007]

12v

[@mibars]

Aaaand Maximum voltage? :)

[@imnotbeluga007]

@@mibars Depends on switching transistor, but in general, if you use more voltage, it'll spin faster, but the current will also go up, heating up the coil more and more, until it overheats and shorts out.

[@siddharthkaduskar8673]

hey how to make it man

[@yogeshpatil2635]

Can we make electric bike by using like this engine?

[@MrMaxStalsky]

you can but it will be worthless. A motor wheel is to much more effective and hase way more torque. Electric motor wheels are our near future of locomotion.

[@MrMaxStalsky]

Just google for "Dualtron" e scooters and be amazed. I have one. Its called "Ultra". 2x 2600w motor wheels boosts my 65kg to up to 85km\h. And with a 35Ah battery it last for 50-100km. NO GAS? just electricity. INSANE.

[@Blessedlungs]

Thanks that was really helpful

[@jhonatanmunoz2934]

Amigo me puedes explicar como se hacer por favor

[@RexRenart]

Hi I plan to build a motorcycle with this type of propulsion , could you explain to me the best that you can, how this engine and on what principle ? ... If you have good links that can explain me , I'm interested...

[@worldcountryIII]

How to control Amp by mechanic

[@xUnleadedx]

damn this one is fast. Whats the RPM were seeing? Now imagine a crankshaft doing that. lol

[@davidrobert2007]

Approx 3,000 rpm here. It goes even faster on higher voltage.

[@piyushpradhan6481]

Sir, how to make this plz explain with new video plz plz plz...

[@emorag]

Excellent

[@umuttopal9170]

Sa dayı vıdeo yu ızledım cok begendım bu vıdeoda kullandıgın selonoıd neyın selonoıdı bılgı verırsen sevınırım bıde kac volt ıle calısıyor

[@luisantoniomarrega3713]

Perfeito, nota 10.

[@Sargentkoko]

When I look on this engine like on gasoline or diesel engine so if you use oil on crackshaft the engine and some cooling the engine will be more effecient. Gasoline engine have lost most in exhaust(34-32%),water cooling(32-31%), friction(7% with motor oil without it is way more lost energy) and alternator..etc.(2%). In solenoid engine is no exhaust only friction and without cooling it's about 50-60% losts of energy if you use oil and cooling it will be about 15-20%(because of temperature of solenoid).

[@davidrobert2007]

Thanks for your input, I do oil the crankshaft bearings and the solenoid only gets slightly warm under extremes so job done I'd say.

[@Sargentkoko]

davidrobert2007 Yes, mostly done but if you can so on the head of connecting rod(that's part where it's connected to crankshaft) missing lead weight(on the gasoline/diesel engines is there a little weight that helps the piston to go down) and on the crankshaft should be little longer pin clamp, that will help for bigger rpm.

[@visionmarvel9748]

Thank you so much i would like to have the blue print I'll pay

[@davidrobert2007]

There are no blueprints or designs available for this engine unfortunately.

[@Sargentkoko]

That's cool!

[@dclc012]

P.S. thumb was for the sticker. Yes sir.

[@hemantlodhi5326]

भाई यह बताओ इसे बनाए कैसे

[@blackedman217]

Do you have a map? :/ I will thank you all my life

[@davidrobert2007]

Hi, if you mean do I have the plans for this engine, unfortunately it's all in my head.

[@SkazaTV]

Nice.

[@hsrcproject8799]

すげぇ！何Rpmまわってんねん！

[@sangvan7115]

nhìn cái bống đèn đỏ nó bị nhiểu điện kìa há há nhanh quá mà

[@luisbentancur699]

este funcion hasta que se gaste el cable o la pintura azul jaja

[@ZtrainZ]

It kind of sounds like a GE90 at some points

[@Dailymailnewz]

Electric engines are much better than Dirty fuel engines. I hope all cars changes to electric engines. Also no smoke is produced so no damaged to the atmosphere.

[@davidrobert2007]

Don't forget we are still burning fossil fuel to generate electricity though.

[@Dailymailnewz]

+davidrobert2007 It is all to do with politics. If I tell you , you are less likely to believe me. Also it can fall into the hands of bad nations and there will be endless wars so it is all to do with politics. What has been dicovered to replace feul is kept quite for millions of political reasons. So yes there is no option but to burn fuel you are right.

[@yanrpopoff2804]

+davidrobert2007 all the power in canada is wind and dam power plants i do believe

[@sangvan7115]

trời đất nó chạy tốc đồ siêu thâm

[@robtaylor1059]

vary noice!

[@robtaylor1059]

rob taylor Oh, and 5 dislikes? You really gotta wonder about people sometimes,I mean, seriously! (haters gotta hate?)

[@MrEp5]

there is no spoon..