Fast & (Soon to be) Affordable - Samsung 980 Review (Gen3 NVMe M.2 SSD)

[@Starscreamious]

My favorite part about this video is that I could actually buy the product if I wanted it.

[@TechTesters]

😂

[@dafonline]

Unlike VGA cards... 🙈

[@adsrbad9733]

@@kubaniedz648 it’s DRAM-less, yet the price remains same as the 970 EVO which has DRAM cache.

[@amashaziz2212]

@@kubaniedz648 no, it shouldn't be. stop spreading misinformation

[@DanielA-pq8vv]

Hezekiah Austin stfu

[@Prashant_03]

I like how you put plants in your setup 💚 love the thought of plants

[@Fister_of_Muppets]

If you look at "average user" tests of the 980 with HMB using the 64MB memory handler, it really outperforms most gen-3 drives. I picked up the 500 GB version for $54.99, and so far it has handled very quickly on my laptop.

[@shreyasdharashivkar8027]

Kingston KC2500 performs better

[@Jeymez]

@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 it also cost more, and that's also there top drive. the 980 Pro outperforms it though.

[@Fister_of_Muppets]

@TheRealJohnHooper nucking futs

[@TheRadElk]

2:13 - Since I happened to read their article first, AnandTech mentioned (don't know if I can link it here due to YT's filtering) the controller is called Samsung Pablo and their review units had the following layers: 1TB - 512Gbit 128-layer 3D TLC NAND (same as on the 2TB 980 Pro) 500 GB - 256 Gbit NAND 256 GB - 92-layer TLC (as on the 970 Evo Plus) Otherwise great review. I'm always surprised to how many things there can be said about an SSD. Watched your WD coverage before and that one felt so in-depth! :D

[@mintydog06]

Thanks for your video. You gave me the extra push needed to get the 980 1TB for my Windows OS.

[@ishmaelgarcia2420]

I was literally reading an article about the 980 before I got the notification for this video lol. As always, great video!

[@TechTesters]

Thank you!

[@jonflowers1370]

I totally agree with you regarding your final comment about needing some larger capacities. If I was forking out for a new drive, a 2TB one would be the minimum size I would go for if it was going to be my main storage drive.

[@chesshooligan1282]

I get by with 150 gigabytes. That's one advantage of not being a gamer.

[@blakefantasy2600]

@@republicjohn999 How much did you spend

[@CoolDude2575]

I just bought 2x Samsung 980 500GB drives to add a secondary drive to my PC and to my son's laptop. I paid about 60 dollars US each. Thank you for such an informative review. Subscribed!

[@veenibik336]

hello how is it right now

[@ZacharyNoah]

I recently upgraded the SSD in my HP Elite X2 1012 G1 2-in-1 Tablet PC from the 256GB Toshiba XG3 SSD to the 1TB Samsung 980 SSD. My 2-in-1 tablet runs on an Intel Core m7-6Y75 Dual-Core CPU at 1.20 GHz (up to 3.10 GHz with Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Technology), with 8GB RAM. From my experience, the Samsung SSD generates less heat than the Toshiba SSD, thus making my system less prone to overheating.

[@toine512fr]

Saw that thing listed, was wondering what it was all about.. Thanks for answering all my questions.

[@OmegaJazz]

Wow. thank you for suck an in-depth review. I bought the 980 a few days back. Checking reviews today. Now i know why it was so cheap. But for gaming (as is my main workload) is a perfect drive for me.

[@TechTesters]

For gaming its completely great!

[@koushikpramanikplusgoogle]

@@TechTesters hi, is the 250GB 980 ssd good enough for just OS(C) drive? [just installing and running windows and apps or games will be on the other one]

[@39gauravwanjari84]

Is it really good for gaming. I want to buy it. Please reply.

[@toddhudson9653]

Great review! I always look forward to seeing your videos. Very concise and efficient which I appreciate. Keep up the great work! 😊

[@TechTesters]

Thank you :D

[@Phrosti_]

This was extremely helpful. Answered every question I had, kudos.

[@raindropsrising7662]

Wow, your hair looking awesome with tapered ends. Just got the 980 1TB. Appreciate your time putting this review together. Very helpful thank you.

[@alb.1911]

Great channel, straight to the point and short videos. Thanks.

[@TechTesters]

Thank you! :D

[@dantegod]

I just bought two of the 1 TB drives. The best performance I've ever seen out of my computer. The two drives replaced an old Intel 535 480 GB SSD that was used for my OS and some games and a 2 TB spinning HDD. Some people may say they aren't worth it but in my case it was :P I'm loving how everything works so much better on my PC from the Twitch app not lagging at all to loading into GTA online in around half the time and world of warcraft not taking over a minute for all the details to load in.

[@zishanali9461]

Are you using it as primary drive ? if yes can you tell me how is it doing after 10 months? I want to upgrade my laptop too

[@chrischoy9]

I don't know what setup most people use for their PC, but the first thing I've noticed with open world games running off a HDD on a high refresh rate monitor is the frame times and the stutter.

[@napstericious]

Nice video, as always! :) I’ve been planning on getting 1tb Samsung 970Evo, but after watching this video I’m not sure whether the new 980 1tb is better than it since it doesn’t have DRAM. :/

[@kvnptl4400]

same here +1

[@Legitti]

970 evo plus has been great for me. I wouldn't change it to this.

[@reptilespantoso]

Same choice. It's only 10 euros more expensive.

[@1222dss]

980 will be faster in typical light tasks 970 will be faster in realy heavy workloads - pick whatever is your case.

[@andresfdez.8975]

980 será más rápido en tareas ligeras y 970 será más rápido en cargas de trabajo pesadas.

[@JD-McC]

Looking for a larger (at least 2TB) drive at some kind of more reasonable prices. Another great review, Nada!

[@79NiWi]

From Video to Video Nada gets prettier and prettier and the the reviews are always top notch 👍👍👍

[@timswets]

I also bought ssd m.2 samsung 980 nvme 500gb yesterday through multimedia store. It works very well. I am using Expot Render premiere Pro 2022.

[@dwa5580]

nice video nada!

[@Ziplock9000]

So basically instead of DRAM it forces "RAPID" on using your system RAM.. hmm

[@Omega_Mark]

From Newegg page: The controller is called Pablo. US prices are: 1TB - $129.99 500GB - $69.99 250GB - $49.99 They use less power than 970 EVO Plus. Think these could be decent for laptops that have NVME (such as Dell XPS).

[@cermet1320]

Great video! Very hard to search for info for this drive as most of the time it brings up 980 pro results. I wonder how it compares to the popular Samsung 970 Evo plus drive? I did not see it in the benchmark. Also I do not think the comparison to Gen 4 is worth it. They are definitely completely different categories imo.

[@TechTesters]

Thanks! And It's faster than the EVO until you get to the heavy scenarios, so the 980 is better for light uses. I just need to find my old Evo's to retest them properly :P

[@cermet1320]

@@TechTesters thanks! would you say it is better to buy Evo plus if you get almost the same price or cheaper as SSD 980?

[@Keiktu]

I am receiving mine tomorrow!!

[@jp.dlamini]

there are so many 1TB that are around the same price or cheaper than this 500GB but their speeds and brand names (hard to trust them) make me nervous to save money and potentially end up with something that is not only sub standard but also doesn’t last long. 😬

[@fallinginthed33p]

No DRAM, uses HMB so it's like Samsung's notebook NVME drives like the PM991. Write speeds could slow down by a lot once the SLC write cache gets filled up, it happens with the 980 Pro also.

[@TechTesters]

They do, but you need to write dozens of Gigabytes first. So it's really not an issue until you get to that 'heavy user" scenario.

[@fallinginthed33p]

@@TechTesters Yes, that SLC cache is usually 40-50 GB for the 512 GB and 1 TB models. Older Samsung NVME drives had issues with a long clearing period for the cache, sometimes a few hours.

[@Hrithik_Jayanth]

@@TechTesters can you help me understand for what exactly heavy user utilizes the ssd?

[@nitinkumar29]

As per Amazon reviews on German site, it is worst Samsung drive and someone even said that it's first Samsung drive that got defective sooner. Someone also reported that this drive is not recognized by magician software.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Picked up a 1TB one for Black Friday for $99. Steal of a deal. Excited to get it.

[@priyanshu9513]

Waiting for one thing for many months . When you going to change you desktop wallpaper ?☺️

[@krinodagamer6313]

Just got mine using it now very much worth it

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

And 2 years later.i did just buy the 1TB version for 49.99euro today 😀

[@UjwalChaudhariRx]

Your video truly helped me to take a decision. Thank you so much mam.

[@TechTesters]

My pleasure 😊

[@steamboy12mc]

Currently running my windows 10 and programs using the 500GB 970 Evo. Do you think it is worth upgrading it to the 980?

[@TechTesters]

Not really? Unless you need another or a larger SSD, then I wouldn't buy the old 970 anymore as the 980 is now cheaper.

[@exoduslnx]

I had to LOL when I saw the stick sitting in a plant XD. Great videos, awesome content, but someone buy this girl another display holder!

[@TechTesters]

Thank you. Won't promise I won't put future SSDs in plants tho!

[@nimothytuman655]

Hey where did you buy your PC case? Because I want it it looks amazing.

[@wookrep4k]

great video thanks for the info

[@bojke91]

Nice review as usual :)

[@adilakhtar007]

Amazing review 💖 love your channel 💓

[@TechTesters]

Thank you!

[@mrconstitution1228]

Would a 500gb be good to run Warzone and Tarkov on?

[@georgiodavid]

Ow ben je Hollander? Ik dacht altijd dat je van Oostblok bent door uw accent. Love your vids 🥰🥰🥰

[@marconipun8906]

The video was perfect, can u make a video for the best laptop for programming? And also another video for the MSI Laptops comparing gs66 vs ge66

[@TechTesters]

Just for programming? I'd probably pick up an XPS, unless you really need a numpad.

[@marconipun8906]

@@TechTesters No it is not only for programming even for gaming, do u think the MSI gs66 is good for that?

[@TechTesters]

@@marconipun8906 very much so!

[@Beast80K]

Thank you for this video

[@Deviantsoundz]

I got a couple of them in a pair of machines. I buy them on sale and been able to get them for under 100 after taxes.

[@HarleyN93]

How does it compare to the 970 evo plus?

[@Aries0098]

I'd still go with the 970 since the 980 is DRAM-less.

[@dimitrisvarsamis2284]

Good afternoon. Again one perfect review for the new Samsung SSD. I have a question if someone can help me. I have a laptop Asus rog Strix model of 2019 with 256 SSD M.2. I am thinking of upgrading the SSD to 1TB so i can use it in same games too(now i use the second disk i have that is an HDD of 1TB). The price differnence between 970Evo Plus and the 980 is 60 Euros(the 970 does 150E and the 980 210). What is worth to buy? because as i can see the differences are very low between these 2. :)

[@Vexies]

So just today I ordered the WD SN550 500Gb and then right after saw the 980 go on sale for 59... I now how two SSD's in the mail to my house lol.

[@saipratheek5499]

Which one is better for gaming ???

[@Vexies]

@@saipratheek5499 I got the Samsung.

[@Vexies]

@@saipratheek5499 The Samsung I got is a lot faster than the sn550

[@remco19]

goede review. heb er 4 gekocht :)

[@jurnalmodstaria]

thank you from Indonesia.

[@salteveline]

where is Zeazonic ?

[@declanmcardle]

I got a 1TB one for EUR 108 in May and another one for 69 a few weeks ago on Black Friday...

[@rahimabdur6577]

Thank you!

[@ErickWDoelfs]

Hey there, GREAT video - thanks for sharing. Quick question that I hope you can help with....Just bought a 2021 Acer Nitro 5 AN517-54-77KG Gaming Laptop (Intel Core i7-11800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050Ti, 17.3" FHD 144Hz IPS Display, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SSD, Killer Wi-Fi 6) and have the ability to expand either to a 2.5 SSD or HDD. Which would you recommend is better for overall performance and streaming? I'm torn between adding another SSD, HDD or upgrading the NVMe SSD and adding another SSD/HDD.....so confused to which. Please help???

[@hamadayossri8678]

Which is better: samsung 970 evo plus or samsung 980 3gen 500gb

[@yokulen545]

thanks very informative

[@shameer343]

Hi, loved the video. But can you tell where did you get these documents? 6:41 and 2:29?

[@kvnptl4400]

nice review

[@michaelthompson9798]

Wow, the Verge replied to Techtesters, hmm looking at how to pc build and how to review products properly Stefan 🤯🤩 maybe that comment will disappear too 🧐

[@Xfade81]

Where did they? I only see a troll account.

[@michaelthompson9798]

@@Xfade81 where?

[@sanjay-bj2zk]

Wich best ssdwd SN570 nvme or Samsung 980?

[@whyamisomeme3694]

can you pls do a video on the MSI GF75 Thin 10UEK-029 i cant at all find no review on it and i want to get it but i cant find any review on this gaming laptop

[@andradebrunno]

Muito bacana a opção de tradução, estava procurando um review sobre esse SSD aqui no Brasil, mão não encontrei.

[@alexworm1707]

Aprenda ingles, nossa lingua tupiniquim é extremamente carente de conteúdos que não sejam completamente bosta.

[@gabeznl3591]

@@alexworm1707 Concordo totalmente, o conteúdo brasileiro é muito escasso. A maioria das minhas dúvidas, principalmente sobre tecnologia, apenas às encontro em inglês.

[@videocruzer]

sept 1 this year a got the 980pro 1 TB on sale for78 bucks

[@XexalSeyer]

Just picked one up for 130$. IDK if that was a good price or not, but I really just need it for storage. I was originally going to buy another SSD, but my PSU is out of sata cables and apparently molex to sata adapters are terrible--so I decided to bite the bullet and get an M.2 drive. I don't know much about these, so I hope it works out. I do have an M.2 drive on this motherboard, but IDK how the sizing works. The manual for my mobo says it supports 4.2cm, 6cm and 8cm length M.2 drives, but IDK the length of this one.

[@Knowbody42]

I just want higher capacity SATA SSDs for lower prices. When will we be able to get 16TB SSDs for under $1000?

[@video_gabes]

lmao

[@jedarroyo8157]

Hi! Will this work on a msi b250m mortar? Are there any limitations and stuff? Thanks!

[@justaguy7337]

I bought this and it's amazing. Never understand why people hated on dram-less SSDs.

[@ryanlvgames4880]

whats dram less ssds

[@justaguy7337]

@@ryanlvgames4880 ssd with no dram

[@mluthfiridho1505]

@@justaguy7337 what different nvme with dram and dramless?

[@wankhaz5206]

So far how is the performance of the SSD? Any noticable cons like health decreasing, slow in speed or anything?

[@oracelerapeur]

Should I leave the sticker on ?

[@williammurphy1674]

oracelerapeur .. I would say yes, leave the sticker on. I saw one vid where the tech guy said the sticker acts as a heat shield-dissipator.

[@kanoides1436]

Is it good for running Windows? Or 970 Evo Plus is going to be better?

[@YourMamiLover]

970 evo plus is better with higher read speeds

[@vkotzath]

I'm between the 980 and the KC2500 in 500GB versions and around the same price.I'm about to build a business PC,no games etc,and I'm mostly interested in the responciveness and snappines of the system.Which of those should I pick?Thanks!

[@TechTesters]

I'd probably take the KC2500, performs a bit better overall even though you won't really feel the difference in responsiveness. The 980 should usually be cheaper though.

[@vkotzath]

@@TechTesters Thanks a lot.Here in Greece the KC2500 is actually about 10 euros cheper than the 980

[@andrewlong7578]

None of the graphs include the 970 evo or evo plus but did include the 970 pro. and 980 pro It's misleading to not include last gen's offerings given they're much closer in cost than either pro model.

[@TechTesters]

It's not misleading, I just don't have them available for testing atm.

[@suremp7]

Great review.Picked up one today.Always avoided samsung cause there were more expensive. Just want to ask why adata nvme sx8200 drives are not featured though they are reputed highly as fast drives.

[@TechTesters]

I bought an sx8200 that performed horribly so I returned it , thinking it was a bad unit. That was before I learned about the hardware changes that adata pushed on it. Never bothered to pick another one up 😬

[@citizengkar7824]

Because it would seem that Adata have the immoral habit of switch & baiting, their SSDs!

[@fewhoursforstudy6823]

Great video mam!

[@TechTesters]

Thanks!

[@EarthIsFlat456]

SSD are relatively cheap at the moment. Just bought a 1 TB 970 Evo Plus for 135 Francs.

[@Alirezarz62]

Always say the price in USD/EUR

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@@Alirezarz62 Why should I? Not every country uses USD/EUR. And it literally takes less than 10 seconds to do a conversion using Google so I'm not gonna do that for you.

[@Alirezarz62]

@@EarthIsFlat456 Ain't no one gonna convert that either lol its like talking in another language and expecting everyone to understand you. USD/EUR is the most known currency in the world but hell who am I talking to lmao

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@@Alirezarz62 Ain't no one gonna do what you ask just because you can't spare a few seconds. And I don't expect everyone to understand, certainly not you. There are people who know what I'm talking about and that's enough for me.

[@Alirezarz62]

@@EarthIsFlat456 whatever you say man lol

[@mentalist1129]

Nice to hear that there is new SSD in the market. I live in the Philippines and it’s hard to find the 980 on stores. It is only available online. Is it safe to purchase the item online? The reviews seems to be fine but, is there a way to verify if the product I am getting is genuine. Thank You.

[@FM-pw1ls]

marami sa lazada. bibili nga ako. naka bili ka na?

[@nadeemakramansari1331]

One last question dear, I have samsung 970 evo plus that runs very hot and my laptop keyboard is terribly hot. Now I have two option 1. Go for samsung 980 Or 2. Wd Sn570 Which way should I go according to you!!!

[@GrandmaHatesTech]

Is this some kind of new high tech phone?

[@Stalast.]

£71.99 for the 1TB model right now at CCL Computers! Amazing value.

[@TechTesters]

Samsung loves their high launch MSRPs, only to become super cheap at some point later. It's one of the cheapest options here (NL) as well.

[@Stalast.]

@@TechTesters Very well predicted!

[@IIHydraII]

£67 on Amazon rn, just picked one up :D

[@Stalast.]

@@IIHydraII Daaaamn. That's tempting me.

[@danditheyesman848]

@@IIHydraII how? in UK cost 84£

[@ronyzmiri]

Just a short layman's question - I collect parts for building my first PC - no gaming, just browsing, MS Office and basic video editing. I bought the Samsung Evo 860 2,5 SSD. Does it make sense to sell it and buy the new 980? Will I feel big difference in use between the two? Is any of them more reliable?

[@TechTesters]

Good question :) But I wouldn't worry, you probably won't feel the difference, until your video editting becomes more than "basic". Both should also be very reliable, it's hard to say which one will actually last longer. Every SSD can break though, so make sure you have backups.

[@ronyzmiri]

@@TechTesters Thanks! Just my thought)

[@salteveline]

hi NADA ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️ @Techtesters

[@linr3v730]

Yes!!

[@prateekkohli4916]

Samsung 980 , samsung 970 evo plus , samsung 970 pro and WD sn750 drives. Which can I use in my laptop lenovo ideapad y700 15ISK model I need to upgrade my ssd as it came with pre installed 100gb but most of it is taken by windows and few essential softwares. Which will best for my laptop. Please reply soon.

[@derptyderp5287]

Starting to wonder if there's just one person employed to name all tech products... And they hate their job. Surely there can't be so many people who all make these terrible naming decisions? I also got a kick out of the "full power mode" so well named they have to include a notice pointing out it doesn't consume any extra power...

[@fallinginthed33p]

It's an awful mess when you include OEM parts too. Samsung's 9xx series include different controllers, NAND designs and generations, all sharing the same prefix.

[@youtubeitisisntit7333]

970 evo plus vs 980? which one is better? Thanks.

[@TechTesters]

980. Or buy a nice newer gen4 ssd depending on the price.

[@pointblank722]

Dram cache is fulled and consistency test dropped, very low % of general home usage. Don't be spoiled by it. Very good NVME SSD.

[@danielbutler9008]

I am in a position where the 970 Evo Plus 1TB and 980 1TB are within £1 of each other - which would be best for a gaming laptop?

[@naninani6215]

970 evo plus for sure

[@danielbutler9008]

@@naninani6215 thank you! 🙏

[@absaglam]

Thank you ...

[@omertacw]

This is now $80, just picked it up to go with the 500gb I have

[@manoranjanpanigrahi3677]

how does this compare to crucial p3 non plus variant for 500gb

[@VivekKumar-xs6pj]

Samsung pricing will justify if TBW were higher than competition. (Sadly its not going to happening)

[@pipoclaude6771]

What about "Bait & switch" for this drive ??

[@icey1098]

Is this ssd good for gaming ?

[@TechTesters]

Absolutely.

[@TonyGerano]

Is het goed voor gamen op een game laptop? Heb een HP omen 15?

[@risbill1]

Wonder how this compares to the crucial P5? Looking to add a scratch drive to my laptop for video and photo editing.

[@YourMamiLover]

The p5 is a little bit faster and has built in dram...

[@LenhHoHuynhDe]

MC review beautiful.

[@Trusteft]

Frankly the lack of DRAM cache means no way I would buy this. I don't accept any excuses from Samsung about using the system's RAM for the job. No, just no. Also, since when 85C is not much for a SSD? Thanks for the video.

[@TechTesters]

Keep in mind it only uses about 64MB or so, not enough to notice. And 85C isn't super low or anything, but on a testbench with no active airflow going by it it's pretty good.

[@Trusteft]

@@TechTesters As I see it, it's not about the amount, it's about the principle. Plus, I know of DRAMless drives which sooner or later suffer in performance and I won't take the word of Samsung on this. Mind you, this is just conversation for fun as I have no plan on buying one now, I recently bought another brand's drive. Which btw gives me up to 37C under full load. In an average PC case. Still, thank you for your input, I hope it helps people. Keep up the good work.

[@TechTesters]

@@Trusteft tbh if you don't mind the higher price, I'd still buy a drive with dram too. But I am expecting these to become cheap enough that most light pc users won't be able to justify spending 10s of dollars more.

[@Trusteft]

@@TechTesters Indubitably.

[@CaptainScorpio24]

can yuh tell me which ssd or fastest hdd can b used cctv surveillance dvr . current 🤣wd purple is so slow

[@sherwintongco6879]

Hi-Quick-Qiestion Does it work on android phone?

[@kingspartan4008]

Hello everyone, I want to ask about which is better for my laptop upgrade, samsung 980 or wd black sn750?

[@khalidabdul461]

Work on Ps5 ?

[@TechTesters]

It might work but I would recommend you stick to Sonys minimum specs, so a decent gen4 ssd at least.

[@TommyBeingaDik]

whats the average life of an ssd while gaming or doing lite stuff? Wonderful Video btw❤

[@tanthokg]

Base on the specific type that you use, but most of them have a considerable life span. For instance, I have a NVMe 250GB Lexar - a very cheap SSD, its TBW (Total Byte Written) is 125TB. If I write 100GB of data into it every day (I don't think anyone would do this that often), it's gonna take 1250 days (more than 3 years) before you need a new one.

[@TechTesters]

Many years. Not something to really worry about. Ssds can break randomly too though, it's rare but it happens so you always need a backup anyway.

[@TommyBeingaDik]

@@tanthokg ok thanks I have a crucial 1tb ssd nvme so I think I am ok for 5-7 years i dont use it every day

[@TommyBeingaDik]

@@TechTesters yes backup is important just asking so I am ok thanks for the info(i dont use every day my pc)