FastAPI (Python) vs Node.js Performance

[@AntonPutra]

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[@leuhenry8031]

slowAPI ?

[@fir4tozden]

no. because of python's inherent slowness. whatever python web framework you use will be slow.

[@MrDocomox]

Would be great to see performance analysis for services deployed between different service mesh framework vs plain service to service communication. For example 2 services calling each other in ISTIO or Consul vs two services calling each other directly.

[@Neuroszima]

please stop bully Python community XD

[@shafiq_ramli]

I don't have to watch the video then 😂

[@uday4717]

It does not bully it' s just comparison it's good for education

[@Mr.BinarySniper]

@@uday4717 not for education only. it will bully the python fans who blindly say python, python, python is for everything. LOL

[@PragmaticIT]

Please stop being bullied 😂😂😂

[@Skyre0]

they dont get bullied as much as js

[@australianman8566]

the python comparisons are torture at this point but i'm still sticking with python. i'm more productive with it.

[@Mr.BinarySniper]

😝😝😝

[@rddmzs]

"robyn" please

[@milagos09]

and some people saying stop using JS on the server but it's okay to use Python.

[@ramonpereira4460]

Thanks a lot, Anton. I find 2.8k req/s a nice benchmark. Most applications will not require much more than this. If dealing with a very needy application, you're better off using something more performant, such as Golang or C#. Btw, I'd love to see a C# vs Golang showdown.

[@saadhabashneh5587]

+1

[@123mrfarid]

Or use nodejs

[@onur75535]

Thanks for these benchmarks. Can you please make one for java spring boot vs nodejs vs bun? Thanks

[@amine7]

Node's memory usage graph is only showing the heap size, and not the actual RSS. I don't think it's the case with python's.

[@hidayathidayat4469]

create PR in the repo

[@FlavioSantoro92]

Thank you for your job! Can you please evaluate the performance of Encore.ts?

[@programmingpillars6805]

and this is only node.js, while we can much more performance using deno 2.0 or bun.js !

[@brianarnold9149]

Please do Flask vs. FastAPI vs. Django

[@bahaazidan]

Everybody saw that coming. Thanks for the tests. Please keep going.

[@RobsonFeijo-bv8ux]

While you are deciding which framework, database, architecture, authentication to use, and the time it will take to code, someone with Django, Laravel or Rails, will have your application with thousands of users without bottlenecks generating profit. Profit is better than thousandths of a second of performance.

[@wlockuz4467]

This is very important. I think most new apps don't need to worry about n-thousand-request-per-second optimizations.

[@kevin.malone]

Python allows me to develop with about the same speed as node for anything web related. The performance difference and quality of life features in JS due to being built for the web makes it a no brainer. For anything data related that isn't going to be a service, Python is a clear winner. If I need to process data and turn it from one form into another, there's no language better than Python to make that happen.

[@owaraigeinin]

might as well do python (django) vs ruby on rails

[@victorln]

Would be cool to see you benchmark Python in some different scenarios, maybe using the PyPy runtime as it's faster for example. Also a test with the Python Sanic (async) framework would be cool as they utilise multiple processes giving you multiple workers.

[@TheIncredibleHugo]

Yes nowadays you really should use the async python for the fair comparison...

[@victorln]

@ FastAPI is async and although the async event loop is a performance improvement, more is necessary to squueze the most performance out of python.

[@ninjaasmoke]

anton!!! great video. ps: i’m still waiting for drogon vs actix!!!

[@TSlova]

What about Encore.ts? FastAPI is so slow.

[@zlackbiro]

Encore.js is currently the fastest framework in the world.

[@kantyDarius]

Conclusion fastAPI is everything but fast

[@AliResool-k8z]

Can you give a php api platform vs python fast api

[@PragmaticIT]

This music is brilliant 3:13 😂😂😂 Anton you are the best!

[@rdec5448]

fastapi vs fastify would be a great title

[@zlackbiro]

Encore.js is the fastest framework right now.

[@emmanuelolowu6768]

Do flask vs laravel

[@JorikKraaikamp]

Why have the requested higher than the limit with cpu usage? It seems like something that will only cause a lot of problems

[@romanmed9035]

end of result by summary of using?

[@mikejohneviota9293]

this man is underrated 🔥

[@Alexey-gp7vc]

It's all about JIT runtime only vs no jit framework. btw, something wrong with nodejs memory usage graph.

[@daymaker_trading]

Thanks for your videos!

[@amaraag9435]

I am still waiting comparing of rust Axum, rust Loco and bun Hono. Can't wait.

[@PiotrWas]

Have you used uvicorn to run fastapi?

[@thelearningmachine_]

doesn't matter. Python needs multiprocessing or a load balancer, horizontal scaling. If go for async, single event loop cannot vertical scale due to own python limitations.

[@shinuza]

It uses gunicorn with uvicorn workers

[@Emilwareus]

Great work!!🎉❤ Please test surrealdb vs PG/Mongo/Neo4j for the different databases paradigms (blob, relational, graph, vector).

[@TariqSajid]

laravel with octane vs nodejs 🙏

[@Ilja903]

MariaDB vs MySQL please

[@shinebayar]

Remember kids, Python is bad for your server, bad for the environment. Get rid of Python.

[@ranggatohjaya]

Robyn vs node vs bun vs deno

[@owaraigeinin]

sigh why people still use python for production

[@jitxhere]

Bun js will absolutely demolish this thing

[@Yvghhnkoo]

Fast Api vs django ninja

[@niruniruniru2904]

Not so fast huh

[@fabrizio.dipietro]

Hi, Go vs nodejs, thank.

[@AliResool-k8z]

Illogical programming language vs easy to use and featureful programming language. Is what should be the title

[@pesetskyps]

Thanks!

[@kasvith]

Elixir vs Node

[@Malix_Labs]

I had no idea python has that much worse performance

[@jm-alan]

I understand that these are largely contrived, but I'm genuinely going to use this video to demonstrate to my boss why I want to migrate off FastAPI We have a service that receives input from several distributed systems via an async TCP push system (think RabbitMQ) built in Python using FastAPI, and serving a ReactJS dashboard Except, I'm the only person who works on it that's comfortable with Python - basically everyone else is a JS dev who begrudgingly has learned enough Python to make new API routes, poorly I own and maintain 100% of our async messaging systems, when they could be both more accessible to the other devs, and *_faster_* , if they were running on a NodeJS server instead

[@GreatTaiwan]

you have to compare Fastify to FastAPI thou you won't just have API end points in node it will be much more than just that

[@jm-alan]

@@GreatTaiwan Who said I'd be building it with Fastify?

[@udaym4204]

fastapi vs Django

[@generjet5297]

But I still love Python. I like to use Python with Elixir

[@oboynitro]

node js is c++ right, so no issue there 😅😌😌

[@7heMech]

So is Python

[@oboynitro]

@@7heMech but python is a programming language

[@UChmn]

Express vs Next Js api

[@dingfengwong1769]

Build python with GIL disabled and try using pypy for jit

[@Grahamaan27]

you think experimental changes that fastapi doesn't support will help?

[@gabrielandre5747]

.NET vs Drogon (C++)

[@a-yon_n]

JS (V8) has better GC and JIT

[@bijayaprasadkuikel5162]

I am still to complete the video but I predict nodejs wins. 🎉🎉🎉

[@alijch]

nest.js vs laravel please

[@marcux83]

CPython at least is very very terrible in efficiency. Please dont put music in the background.. urrrghh

[@svetlinzarev3453]

I cannot understand people who use python for web apis. Given that there is Java, Go or even better - Rust, it makes no sense to use something so slow. It's just pure disrespect towards your users

[@infantfrontender6131]

Rust is a niche language and good devs are expensive. Companies don't want to risk choosing this language as a primary language for their APIs.

[@ibrahimshehuibrahim918]

In a nutshell node js is better

[@PraiseYeezus]

For those who like Python...why? Genuine question, I'm a TS dev but I've worked with Python and PHP and I can't stand Python...type support is good but not as robust as TS, I can't stand environment management (which is somehow even more annoying than TSConfig/bundlers), performance is hit or miss...is it the library support? Not interested in bashing anyone's preferred tech (or even defending my own) so please don't reply with anything abraisive.

[@realharo]

It's "good enough" for most people's practical needs, and people like to stick with what they are already familiar with.

[@ihatesun]

Its because of the ecosystem. Its focused heavily on data. UV and poetry fix a lot of the issues regarding what you just mentioned. UV being the superior tool. Performance is rarely a problem, as you need to have a very specific use case. And if the use case is not unique there probably is some library written in C or Rust that you can use. A big problem is that people don't give much time into other languages and then judge it. E.g. when people complain at work about types I don't see them use the IDE to setup type hints, type checks and so on...

[@BlackistedGod]

as far as Im aware, Python are being taught in almost all uni, ( even CS50 covers Python after C ). So there's a lot of people who can code in it, and there are also a lot of people who only can code in Python. I'd argue there only two kinds people who would still use Python. 1. Someone who can code in more than one language but doesn't care about performance or not aware how slow it is 2. Someone who only knows Python and never coded in other language.

[@ninele7]

To add to other comments. Sometimes it's used, because project has some dependencies on python ecosystem. Python is likely easiest language to use if you need to run ML models as part of your backend.

not the best place to comment if you dont want people to reply

[@uday4717]

Go echo vs go fiber

[@123mrfarid]

Up this

[@EzequielRegaldo]

"Fast"API lol, please. Use JS instead of Python

[@xsdash]

it's funny people saying it js vs python, while It's just c/c++ vs a framework over cpython. FastAPI will be slow because it has additional layer of framework in python, nodejs is not a framework. Would have made much more sense by comparing someting like Uvloop with node. It would still be lesser in speed but definitely not this much.

[@EzequielRegaldo]

@@xsdash ok so, let's do it ! please push some ideas to repo, we want to see blood

[@GreatTaiwan]

while NodeJS obv will eb faster than python this test got few issues 1. comparing NodeJS not Fastify for ex to FastAPI (that got Pydantic and many things going on for it) it\s not an apple to apple comparison 2. I think this is only the heap memory for JS not actual RSS unlike for py this is so missleading