Faster Pitching is Hurting Baseball And People Love it

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Average Baseball

Average Baseball

Күн бұрын

Over the past 10 years, MLB pitching has been getting unbelievably fast, and while fans love it, it might actually be doing more harm than good.

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@jamiec6504
@jamiec6504 Жыл бұрын
Greg Maddox immediately comes to mind. Didn’t overpower hitters but just hit his spots and kept the batters guessing.
@chrisroyal4238
@chrisroyal4238 Жыл бұрын
honestly, this video makes me think he is top 10 all time.
@wilb8893
@wilb8893 Жыл бұрын
Doing what Maddux did was harder than just throwing 99 mph. If people could be Maddux, more people would be, but they just can't.
@uhhcoolstory5627
@uhhcoolstory5627 Жыл бұрын
He threw 94…
@blacjackdaniels200
@blacjackdaniels200 Жыл бұрын
1) He threw low 90s and got a lot of K’s 2) Using him as an example is like telling someone that Michael Jordan got cut from His basketball team 3) Maddux*
@sw120
@sw120 Жыл бұрын
Maddux wasn't nearly as much of a soft tosser as people think. Still a control freak, but accurate radar guns weren't available when he was around, and I imagine he was topping out at 93-94 at his peak, which back then was harder than it is now. It was just never his calling card, which is why he was still so good. There's not many guys that can survive steep velo drops, especially nowadays and how hitters are programmed. Greg Maddux type pitchers just aren't all that common. Very few like him before or after him. Had 6-7 pitches, could throw the ball where he wanted, and make the ball do what he wanted. Really hard to ask pitchers to be like that. If it was easier I guarantee there'd be less of those stock fastball/slider guys that sit 95 and a lot more command artists. So Maddux was really a unicorn more than anything
@JS-te2vj
@JS-te2vj Жыл бұрын
I remember Ichiro mentioning in his retirement speech, how baseball is becoming a braindead sport. While he avoided clarifying exactly what the "trend" was, he lamented on how "baseball used to require intelligence and tenacity", and "hoped Japanese baseball didn't follow this American trend", and "stayed the intelligent, clever game it always was." Fast forward to today, and we now know that what he meant was tipping pitches using cameras, hitting trash cans - braindead hitting, reacting to a coach or buzzer, rather than coercing pitchers to throw a certain pitch. On watching this video, I think the velocity surpassing most hitter's reaction times may be forcing this trend of using technology to relay incoming pitches to hitters.
@Pojko
@Pojko Жыл бұрын
I love seeing all of the "starting throwers" on my team throwing as hard as they can to try and strike everyone out, and not being able to make it past 5 innings because they've already thrown 100 pitches.
@JB-pk8gd
@JB-pk8gd Жыл бұрын
Mark Buehrle is my favorite pitcher ever because he played fast and he didn’t pitch hard. 88mph average fastball, never injured. You knew he’d play every 5 games. Managed to accumulate 60 war, 5 all stars, 5 gold gloves, a World Series, perfect game, and no hitter. Average of 221IP per season. Maybe the most consistent performer ever.
@hvymettle
@hvymettle Жыл бұрын
Well, I remember when pitchers like Catfish Hunter just changed speeds and painted the corners with an 88 mph fastball, and managed to throw a perfect game. Gregg Maddox was pretty successful, not sure if he ever threw a fastball in the 90's.
@averyfabian9936
@averyfabian9936 Жыл бұрын
Maddux was definitely throwing in the mid 90s at points in his career, so believe it or not, he threw hard
@hvymettle
@hvymettle Жыл бұрын
@@averyfabian9936 True, his fastball touched 93 mph in his early years, but his velocity steadily declined throughout his career, and was never his principal focus as a pitcher. By the end of his career, his fastball averaged less than 86 mph. His four seam fastball was usually around 88 MPH.
@averyfabian9936
@averyfabian9936 Жыл бұрын
@@hvymettle that's definitely true that he was that type of pitcher when he was older, but if he was like that at the beginning of his career, he would probably have never made it to the mlb
@HT-sm9dm
@HT-sm9dm Жыл бұрын
You also have to realize that the radar guns today are juiced af.
@HT-sm9dm
@HT-sm9dm Жыл бұрын
@breadandcircuses8127 easy. They show higher readings than what the pitch actually is. They measure pitchers as soon as the ball is released as opposed to measuring it as it crosses the plate - as in what the hitter actually sees the pitch as. For decades they measured velocity this way as it made more sense. Now they do it differently ever since velocity really became a selling point. Technically this isn’t a “lie” but it’s a sneaky way of fudging the numbers to sell the product.
@1uckedout
@1uckedout Жыл бұрын
I think limiting the number of pitchers on a roster would help. With less bullpen to fall back on, pitchers will be forced to lower their intensity and pitch at lower speeds for longer rather than giving maximum effort on every pitch. Lower velocity would also put an even heavier emphasis on location and sequencing making pitching more skillful. On another note, I'm interested to hear feedback from other baseball fans about deadening the ball a bit. Personally, I find balls in play to be much more entertaining than HRs and SOs. Obviously a HR has the wow factor but it's a break in tension rather than building upon it like a base hit does. The most fun innings aren't solo homers but several hits strung together by a lineup, great plays by the defense, quick and clever base running, things that build tension. I think lowering velo and deadening the ball would reserve HRs for true power hitters again and encourage a more contact oriented approach for those who aren't as strong. This would increase hits, balls in play, lower SOs, make HRs more rare and therefore special thereby bringing more fun to baseball. Thoughts?
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
No, it would just increase use of “taxi squads”. Limiting pitchers is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard. Players will go all out to try and make the most money they can, because the results is what influences their pay.
@1uckedout
@1uckedout Жыл бұрын
@@pohorex6834 The only thing that matters is the number of pitchers available, regardless of what organizational term they fall under. If the number of pitchers is lower, the pitchers will pitch with lower intensity. Also you're implying that the "taxi squad" rules couldn't be reworked. There's no reason to assume that a theoretical change couldn't work as a result of being in conflict with existing rules because those can be changed too.
@CheeseDizzle
@CheeseDizzle Жыл бұрын
I think they need to move the mound back at least 1.5 ft. to 64 ft. and lower it a few inches (probably like 1 to 2 inches).
@CheeseDizzle
@CheeseDizzle Жыл бұрын
Additionally, regarding velocity, it is partly a matter of physics. Modern pitching mechanics are similar to a trebuchet, the longer the arm and motion the higher velocity is possible. This is also why larger pitchers seem to able throw hard easier.
@1uckedout
@1uckedout Жыл бұрын
@@CheeseDizzle The problem with moving the mound further back is it that while it gives the hitters more time to react, it won't change how much effort the pitchers use when throwing and it will also give breaking pitches more time to move. So while the hitters gain reaction time, the pitches have more movement. I'm not sure if that would increase or decrease offense but it definitely wouldn't reduce stress on pitchers' arms.
@ivannichols3799
@ivannichols3799 Жыл бұрын
good vid, you have very big potential
@aaronstark5060
@aaronstark5060 Жыл бұрын
It’ll be interesting to see what starts happening to pitcher contracts. If this trend continues, teams may be less likely to dish out massive contracts for pitchers because the injury risk is going to be so much higher.
@MoshiCola
@MoshiCola Жыл бұрын
The strikeout rate didn’t start going up because of higher velocities. It started going up because hitting philosophies have changed
@caseyburton6742
@caseyburton6742 Жыл бұрын
Finally. The quest for homers on every pitch is at fault. Thank you
@jellyfishgamestudios
@jellyfishgamestudios Жыл бұрын
I mean yes when you combine the power hitting philosophies WITH higher velocities and much higher spin rates. Its not just hitting philosophies.
@zeke1220
@zeke1220 Жыл бұрын
How does that explain the differing batting averages based on pitch speeds in the same season? It's both.
@rrameir
@rrameir Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a combination of both. Pitchers are nastier than ever and the put the ball in play approach is seen less and less
@HT-sm9dm
@HT-sm9dm Жыл бұрын
@@jellyfishgamestudios”much higher spin rates” lol. Compared to what?? They didn’t start measuring this nerdy stuff until very recently. God this generation is so full of 💩.
@mattbalfe2983
@mattbalfe2983 Жыл бұрын
I'd add that when Joey Gallo doesn't hit a homerun he also walks quite a lot. Walk rate and a batters plate discipline ( ability recognize strikes from balls,) has become more important too. The poster boy for that trend is Juan Soto who literally shuffles and stares down the pitcher when he takes a difficult pitch to not swing at. Soto's antics aside, hitters being more selective also isn't going to be as exciting, at least for the casual fan.
@Jay-bl4jf
@Jay-bl4jf Жыл бұрын
Yo this is a good vid just subscribed
@kdwaynec
@kdwaynec Жыл бұрын
Fans nowadays only care about two stats. MPH and HR distance.
@EvskiiCF
@EvskiiCF Жыл бұрын
Great video, crazy you don't have more subs. Stick with it and you'll grow
@hughjaass3787
@hughjaass3787 Жыл бұрын
Pitches over 100mph is not the only variable when accounting for record Ks. The modern hitting philosophy leads to this too
@DallasTechie
@DallasTechie Жыл бұрын
Watching this makes me appreciate the talentS of Shoei Ohtani even more
@one_jame
@one_jame Жыл бұрын
Loving all of your content so far, keep it up man
@averagebaseball
@averagebaseball Жыл бұрын
thank you, got another dropping tomorrow!
@mss627
@mss627 Жыл бұрын
Pitchers would do better to work on command instead of simply trying to overpower batters. There would be fewer injuries and starters could go longer than 5 or 6 innings.
@sharkzillahtornado6059
@sharkzillahtornado6059 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting foe the Rays to be in trouble
@mmmthatguy
@mmmthatguy Жыл бұрын
How many complete games are there this year?
@Pickachoo
@Pickachoo Жыл бұрын
Tyler rogers is the exception to this
@Seth-po7px
@Seth-po7px Жыл бұрын
Well if you throw a 90 mph pitch right down the middle the ball will be smoked but if you throw a 100 mph pitch right down the middle it would be different
@jubz2163
@jubz2163 Жыл бұрын
My ucl started hurting watching this
@kingslayer3796
@kingslayer3796 Жыл бұрын
Not to pick on Chris Young, but he wasn't exactly a flamethrower when he played...so it's not surprising to hear him say that he doesn't want all of his pitchers with crazy velo, seeing how he was a 6'10" pitcher throwing 91 🤣 he might be a bit opinionated on the topic of velocity and pitching...
@nathanjm000
@nathanjm000 Жыл бұрын
Players are a lot more replaceable now as there is not very much variation in skill sets and not as much variation in skill level which is also hurting the game
@maxkeilen4989
@maxkeilen4989 Жыл бұрын
Did he just say "in April alone 270 pitchers have been added to injury list" or am i not hearing it right?
@MetalPete_the_metalfan
@MetalPete_the_metalfan Жыл бұрын
Actually I find faster pitching honestly boring to the point of the pitcher and catcher playing catch with each other. Honestly I find the all the other fielders to be way too good at the point of almost nobody getting on base with a ball actually hit either caught on a high fly or grounder hits to the outfield easily scooped up and outfielders easily getting the ball to first base throwing almost as fast as a pitcher.
@georgew.5639
@georgew.5639 Жыл бұрын
The other thing that is hurting baseball is the idea that the only way to score runs is to hit a home run. The way to score runs is to get lots of base hits that continuously advance the runners on base. Baseball like most professional sports is destroying itself with stupid rules and ideas that don’t work.
@dash_r_media
@dash_r_media Жыл бұрын
The way baseball is played makes it very, very difficult to string together a series of hits. Many MLB hitters have said this.
@jrambidex9902
@jrambidex9902 Жыл бұрын
investing in this channel rn 👀
@averagebaseball
@averagebaseball Жыл бұрын
🙏
@nalaeel219
@nalaeel219 Жыл бұрын
Faster pitching = spider tak
@jpinut81
@jpinut81 5 ай бұрын
Why why why does everyone talk like this in videos now. I'm interested in the content, it's just the "KZbin" sentence cadence makes this unbearable.
@CCUNNINGHAM10
@CCUNNINGHAM10 Жыл бұрын
Make the ball heavier
@jabasabon
@jabasabon Жыл бұрын
Great content, but your constant uptalking is irritating.
@ezkit2982
@ezkit2982 Жыл бұрын
I feel like batting is starting to become too difficult in the MLB. There was a point in the league where hitting .400 was not even that unbelievable but now we're at the point where it's nearly impossible.
@awung11
@awung11 Жыл бұрын
This is not the year to be talking about hitting .400 as Luis Arraez is having the closest shot that any has had since Tony Gwinn. Not even hitters in the steroid era were closer.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
Um, only one player has ever hit 400. What the hell are you talking about? 400 is the holy grail, and always has been.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
@@awung11 Bonds pushed it.
@awung11
@awung11 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 over 40 players have done it. Just none since Ted Williams did it over 80 years ago
@ezkit2982
@ezkit2982 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 where did you get that only one player hit 400? There's been several do some research before you say more stupid shit like this
@Desopolis
@Desopolis Жыл бұрын
Please stop the Mr beast voice
@mmmthatguy
@mmmthatguy Жыл бұрын
60 years ago, more pitchers threw harder, more innings, and lasted longer than the glass pitchers of this era. All these bullshit stats and analysis has made pitchers so fragile. Back in the Nolan Ryan days, he’d just throw that thing: “Wanna hit? Here. Try!”
@noobtube3245
@noobtube3245 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the computer is the reason degroms elbow is vaporized
@ХорхеГарсия-э5е
@ХорхеГарсия-э5е Жыл бұрын
Back in the Nolan Ryan days the average fastball wasn't even 90mph, so they certainly didn't throw "harder". Heck, 92mph was considered a FAST pitcher, now that's a slider.
@dash_r_media
@dash_r_media Жыл бұрын
As a group they most certainly did not throw harder or even as hard. Ryan perhaps, but not his contemporaries.
@sgtfow10
@sgtfow10 Жыл бұрын
Why do you talk like that lol
@Saddo_Catto-mj6dv
@Saddo_Catto-mj6dv Жыл бұрын
this is very high quality production. you’d expect a guy with a platform like 50x larger to have this good of a video, keep it up i believe you’ll go far
@Toiez
@Toiez Жыл бұрын
give this channel 1 year, you will be at 100k!
@InUteroKDC
@InUteroKDC Жыл бұрын
I hope so, it’s a great channel, good content.
@mariahudson2062
@mariahudson2062 Жыл бұрын
It does
@InUteroKDC
@InUteroKDC Жыл бұрын
@@mariahudson2062 No, the channel has 2.3k subscribers.
@UncleSmartRR
@UncleSmartRR Жыл бұрын
I actually agree
@Ibhenriksen
@Ibhenriksen Жыл бұрын
It just needs a name change.
@staciemohler4624
@staciemohler4624 Жыл бұрын
I don't think velo itself is the thing that get pitcher injured but the amount of effort put into the pitch (example Tim Lincecum trying his hardest to throw 97-98 got him injured but then there's Blake Treinen who throws a sinker at 98 with little effort and he has been healthy)
@Agua-hd4jh
@Agua-hd4jh Жыл бұрын
Lincecum, Degenerative hip condition. Not his fault
@staciemohler4624
@staciemohler4624 Жыл бұрын
@@Agua-hd4jh fair point he was probably not the best example I could have used
@italianwaterice9594
@italianwaterice9594 Жыл бұрын
@@Agua-hd4jh caused by his thrusting windup,,,, so his point was accurate,, same as eric gagne
@shanemartin6854
@shanemartin6854 Жыл бұрын
Different eras and completely different work loads
@tynao2029
@tynao2029 Жыл бұрын
its a mixture of biology, god given strength and durability, diet, form, etc. Who knows who can throw a fast or high curving pitch for long periods at the major league level, until they do it. Nobody. Bigger bones usually seem to help, as does a higher nitrogen based muscle content, as Midwestern and Texan pitchers have typically displayed at higher levels on average
@violabeaumont3758
@violabeaumont3758 Жыл бұрын
Its not just velocity, its the insane spin rates pitchers are getting today. The movement on these pitches today is sickening. If a pitcher is not getting good spin rate today they are going to get absolutely shelled.
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
If a pitcher doesn’t have good spin rate they won’t make it past high-A. The game has such a newfound and deep understanding of how to maximize spin rates, and changes to improve skill
@thebuspodcast8999
@thebuspodcast8999 Жыл бұрын
You definitely should’ve mentioned the foreign substance problem as it is definitely much more impactful or the K percentage increasing then just the velocity increase
@tomw485
@tomw485 Жыл бұрын
While batting averages have gone down I was looking at year over year league wide OPS numbers. The seem to be highest during the steroid era of the 90’s through early 2000’s. However I then compared the last 10 years to years pre-1990 and they are noticeably higher now than they were before the steroid era. The game is seeing more offensive production now than it has for the majority of its history. So hitters do seem to be adjusting. They’re just taking a different approach. I do think MLB balls are definitely juiced today compared to years past as well. Various experiments have shown significantly higher exit velocities on MLB balls vs other baseballs. But you’d really have to get your hands on some much older MLB balls to make the comparison to the current ones. And even then after years of sitting and degrading you couldn’t properly compare the old balls to newly manufactured balls.
@DarkKnightofHeaven
@DarkKnightofHeaven Жыл бұрын
Most pitchers may have more sound mechanics but this is essentially what Tim Lincecum did, and for a while he was the best pitcher in baseball...until his arm absolutely fell apart after only 4 full seasons. In physics force is force. If your generating 100 mph velocity, the force neccesary to get there is in your arm no matter how 'smooth' the mechanics are the amount of torque your putting on your arm never really changes for each 100 mph pitch. You can't do that that many times and expect your arm to stay intact. Nolan Ryan is an outlier that may as well gotten lucky he didn't obliterate his arm.
@DudeTotally1000
@DudeTotally1000 Жыл бұрын
Ryan was definitely a freak in the best way lol. He threw consistently hard for 26 years, but you can't count on guys having the luck that Nolan had in his natural durability.
@KJ-wx2su
@KJ-wx2su Жыл бұрын
It was Tim's hips that broke down -- sapped his velo
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
Force is force, but the entire motion is just the use of muscles and tendons. If everything recovers properly, there isn’t an issue. The issue is recovery. We need to revolutionize the way we care for players. We know more and more than ever, and we actually have the technology to evaluate throwing readiness
@claytonhilliard925
@claytonhilliard925 Жыл бұрын
Nolan Ryan actually had a partial tear of his UCL in September of 1988. He shut it down until spring training when the ligament was scarred over and protected it. He pitched with that tear for the rest of his career.
@sw120
@sw120 Жыл бұрын
I do agree mostly, but Lincecum's main downfall was his degenerative hips. With his mechanics, while they were a work of art and generated so much torque for a guy his size, he leaned a lot on generating power from his hips. You're still right though. Worked way to much early and didn't last. Much like King Felix. His 2 seam/4 seam velo dropped 7 mph from his first CY year to his last year in the bigs. Since he was tiny for a power pitcher I assume it came more from his lower half, also don't remember any arm injuries from him. Could've been a combo of the two who knows
@bobbywinstead1
@bobbywinstead1 Жыл бұрын
I watched Max Scherzer as a Nats fan - he was an Iron Man and threw a lot of innings. His fastball, that he throws the majority of the time, has had a velocity sitting around 94MPH his entire career. He came into the All Star game one year and threw one for 100MPH - just to remind everyone that he *could* be throwing that fast. Having a few guys (even non-elite) who eat up innings used to be far more valuable, even if it meant an extra run or two, and I think the approach can still work. Too many financial disasters...nobody wants to tune in to games with a bunch of no-name pitchers because everyone is on the IL.
@carlwilliams9642
@carlwilliams9642 Жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself. I would gladly take a decrease in velocity if it means lower strikeout rates and healthier pitchers.
@maxkeilen4989
@maxkeilen4989 Жыл бұрын
Right but you cant force ppl to throw slower bev they will get destroyed by hitters
@carlwilliams9642
@carlwilliams9642 Жыл бұрын
@@maxkeilen4989 Clayton Kershaw and Sunny Gray aren't throwing as fast as they used to and they're doing fine.
@EvskiiCF
@EvskiiCF Жыл бұрын
​@Max Keilen you can though. Just make it a rule that any pitch over 100mph is a ball. Wiffleball does it
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Жыл бұрын
@@EvskiiCF thats nonsense. no one gets paid millions to play wiffleball. Wiffleball teams aren’t selling out stadiums in the 30,000 seat range nor do they employ 100s of concession workers who rely on the job to feed their family
@EvskiiCF
@EvskiiCF Жыл бұрын
@GoodLuckBeatz not nonsense at all. Baseball has a ton of idiotic rules already. You're just ignorant to them or you don't mind those because they've been around forever. Doesn't make then any less dumb The velocity limit would actually lead to more ticket sales because more hitting would occur and you'd keep arms healthier
@Norkeys
@Norkeys Жыл бұрын
I can see people touching 113, but never sitting. I think the highest velo someone will sit will be around 106-107. We have Joyce and Duran throwing consistently at the low 100s, Joyce sits 101-102, Duran touching 104 a lot. These 9th graders who throw 90 nowadays will be this next generation.
@josephmother2659
@josephmother2659 Жыл бұрын
The person who throws 110 at some point will probably break their arm doing it, unless it’s reinforced with titanium which would decrease the mechanical fluidity of muscles joints and ligaments, in my opinion
@MonoPrime
@MonoPrime Жыл бұрын
Throwing 113mph would require ~16% more kinetic energy from the pitchers arm compared to throwing 105mph. Kinetic energy is effected by velocity^2 so every extra mph takes an exponentially greater amount of energy through the pitchers arm to make it happen. It’s probably never going to happen.
@bizzlea887
@bizzlea887 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine throwing 112 with an 85 mph change up.... that's softball speed difference and that would be absolutely unhittable
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
If you can locate it’d be unhittable. But if you can’t locate you could just sit on the off speed stuff and smack it
@fr2ncm9
@fr2ncm9 Жыл бұрын
This is why I find it increasingly hard to watch games. Games have become two dimensional with focus on strikeouts and home runs. The fact that players like Kyle Schawarber and Joey Gallo can find themselves in the starting lineup of a major league team is a serious indictment of how messed up the game has become.
@chrislewis5069
@chrislewis5069 Жыл бұрын
It was hoping they would move the mound back to 63 feet
@1uckedout
@1uckedout Жыл бұрын
That might make it easier for hitters but wouldn't solve the injury issue.
@rrameir
@rrameir Жыл бұрын
All that does is make breaking pitches nastier. I guarantee it would have the opposite effect than intended
@theaquariancontrarian3316
@theaquariancontrarian3316 Жыл бұрын
Baseball's are juiced now. Theyre smaller and more dense which increases speed and spin rate.
@Onlytheclouds
@Onlytheclouds Жыл бұрын
The way you over pronounce words is distracting. It’s really noticeable, especially on the last word in your sentences. Just a tip when reading your script, sound more natural and less robotic. Good video. Cheers.
@averagebaseball
@averagebaseball Жыл бұрын
thank you! i’m trying to get better, idk where i picked up that habit 😵‍💫
@jfishy2388
@jfishy2388 Жыл бұрын
dude your content is amazing. keep up the great work. this definitely earned a sub!
@FriarPop
@FriarPop Жыл бұрын
This is low quality information, young pitchers are babied so they dont get hurt , as they age they let them throw the heat more often as their career is almost over so nobody cares.
@AdderallAscension
@AdderallAscension Жыл бұрын
Taking the Baseball doesn’t exist route, I like it. I reccomend more dramatic hook to catch viewers it’s one of the secrets
@michaeltaylor4271
@michaeltaylor4271 Жыл бұрын
You say that watching pitchers hit 100mph but do you forget how excited the whole country was when Sammy sosa and mark McGwire were chasing the home run record? Trust me people like seeing baseball be played at that high of a level, I’d bet if you started hitting the ball 700ft people would take notice
@uranium54321
@uranium54321 Жыл бұрын
1:10 - idk but I feel like BA is the wrong stat to use here bc it doesn’t include walks… how much of that is from faster pitches being harder to locate in the strike zone?
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 Жыл бұрын
Rays have been doing this forever. They have all their pitchers just throw max effort 100% of the time and replace them when they get hurt. Seems kind of morally wrong almost.
@jaysnow701
@jaysnow701 Жыл бұрын
Low 90mph will still be effective with location, movement and velocity changes. A 2+4 seam, cutter, changeup, and curve ranging between 75-95. And i think the injury problem has more to do with the emphasis on the various sliders. The velocity pushing does not help though.
@rowdyghost4713
@rowdyghost4713 Жыл бұрын
Naw sliders are actually not that bad for your arm when thrown properly. The big issue is that kids throw harder younger. You have some guys who have been able to touch 99+ well before they even hit a minor league affiliate. And since velo seems to be the single most important thing in a scouts eye, they don’t care if you will get hurt, they will use you until the wheels fall off. And that’s the sad reality of baseball now.
@gumball3D
@gumball3D Жыл бұрын
And kids throwing too often at a young age.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the speed along with the slider is what is not helping.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын
​@@rowdyghost4713 It seems that in High School the under 18--19 kids are hitting this level of speed going 99 mph + and yes the teams will just use you becuse of all the talent out there that this is why players now have to retire as pitchers before age 25 in MLB The problem is the, super high over 100 mph Fastball, then Fastball Slider or Curve Fastball being pushed as the only other 2 pitches used in Baseball currently besides the over 100 mph Fastball. This is why an amazing left hand pitcher I graduated with never made it out of the lower ranks of the Minors in my town Pierre (Pier) South Dakota who graduated in 2007 with me. He was an 80--85 mph hitter but had this Curveball Slider that few could hit and was rarely injured. The reason he did not get further into the Minor leagues was the 2010 was the start of the Speed Pitching only those above 90 mph for every type of pitch that has only increased year after year so that now other pitches like a Curveball or Slider must be pitched at 95+ mph or about 90--95% of a Max Fastball.
@rrameir
@rrameir Жыл бұрын
Having a diverse arsenal is obviously an effective way to attack hitters. But the rest of your comment is just wrong. Breaking pitches (curveballs, sliders, sweepers, etc) put less stress on the arm than fastballs when thrown correctly. As for throwing a lot at a young age, you need to throw to build arm strength and learn efficient movement patterns. I do agree 11-14 year old kids shouldn’t be throwing hundreds of pitches in a tournament. But kids should be throwing at varying intensities throughout a week of training
@mykosiv.
@mykosiv. Жыл бұрын
here’s what I think the MLB should do, make a limit of a pitch at 97 or smth and if someone goes above it will be a ball, if its already a ball then it counts as two
@daleftuprightatsoldierfield
@daleftuprightatsoldierfield Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the league leader in ERA as of this comment being posted averages 92 on his fastball
@michaelallen1154
@michaelallen1154 5 ай бұрын
What's up Average Baseball? This is good content. Question: Could the high injury rate among pitchers have anything to do with the fact that the pitch-clock removes those extra 10 or seconds of rest that went into the game prior to 2023?
@Joshua-YeetRat
@Joshua-YeetRat Жыл бұрын
Here's a weird idea, anything past 99.9 is a ball but make the zone bigger, not like anything crazy huge but just enough to offset the advantage it gives to hitters
@budlite8413
@budlite8413 Жыл бұрын
Nah if anything make the zone smaller on faster pitches?
@mcclintocksamuel05
@mcclintocksamuel05 Жыл бұрын
Not to nitpick but the intro footage was loosely picked. Kyle Gibson ain’t touching triple digits, and Aroldis Chapman was on the Reds like 10 years ago. Great video, just something that irked me immediately haha.
@jaybingham3711
@jaybingham3711 Жыл бұрын
Enough with all the silly pretense about PEDs. Make em legal. We deserve to see how a jacked human body (particularly the face) holds up to being hit by a 110mph pitch.
@bucketlistyo9596
@bucketlistyo9596 Жыл бұрын
For those who keep saying that pitchers who stayed healthy and durable were genetic freaks or not throwing that hard, are wrong. If you looked at pitchers such as Ryan, Seaver, Rivera. Their mechanics are similar. When their front foot is on the ground, there arm is up. The mechanics of majority of the modern pitchers set them up for injury.
@LoveXKnife
@LoveXKnife Жыл бұрын
Are you Baseball Doesn't Exist? your voice is similar
@robertoso8796
@robertoso8796 Жыл бұрын
they should limit when you can throw over 100. maybe only if you're in 4th+ place and not dring playoffs but yes during world series. only on tuesday? no that's tacos. wild ass throw wednesday?
@webgem14
@webgem14 11 ай бұрын
I actually think this is the true root cause behind the baseball is boring attitudes that some people have. While it doesn’t bother me, I can see why some people would be less interested in seeing the three true outcomes. IMO, they should try deadening the ball and/or lowering the seems to make it easier to make contact but harder to hit it out. Maybe they could even try raising the mound again. They did try moving the mound back, but that was a disaster because the breaking pitches moved too much. Love or hate the pitch clock, I think it won’t really matter in the long run if the contact rates don’t improve. It’s kind of strange to see players get to be too good at a sport to the point where it’s less entertaining.
@papermaker2726
@papermaker2726 Жыл бұрын
They should move the mound back ☝️ foot. For a test. See how it does.. Or the easier option would probably be to move home plate back
@nobeardthepirate9172
@nobeardthepirate9172 Жыл бұрын
Very good video, but find your own way of producing and speaking. Being a clone of a popular creator is what is destroying the internet.
@dionpierre5847
@dionpierre5847 6 ай бұрын
Not that we’ve witnessed the peak of pitching but I believe batting has the higher ceiling in baseball. I think the batters will catch up as the game evolves
@PaulG-kd6jj
@PaulG-kd6jj Жыл бұрын
didnt watch the whole video so forgive me if this was said, but im convinced there will come a time when mlb just decides to move the mound back a few feet to compensate for increasing velo
@carsonprice5368
@carsonprice5368 Жыл бұрын
I subscribed just for the meme of being here at the beggining of the algorithm bump!
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel Жыл бұрын
Fast pitching has always effected pitchers. Lot of promising Pitchers end up blowing their arms completely out. There is a limit to what the human arm can take being used that way.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel Жыл бұрын
@breadandcircuses8127 Because our muscles are like tight fleshy fibers that are connected by other soft tissue. When you move an arm it's just like moving a machine, Machines break down when they are worn down. So can peoples arms.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel Жыл бұрын
@breadandcircuses8127 no worries friend... think of a pitchers arm like one of those Trebuchet (A fancier catapult) look how they move and compare it to a pitchers throw and you'll see what I mean. All that machinery is producing so much force things snap and break.
@gabrielkelly2631
@gabrielkelly2631 Жыл бұрын
I’ve said this plenty of times just let the batters use peds and let pitchers use sticky stuff if you gotta regulate it
@ControlPointDonelson
@ControlPointDonelson Жыл бұрын
Solution? Just bunt every pitch
@bluehorseshoe444
@bluehorseshoe444 Жыл бұрын
Move the rubber back 12 inches... problem solved
@dennisgrant538
@dennisgrant538 Жыл бұрын
Need to lower the mound and the pitching rubber needs to be moved back by 1 foot
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress Жыл бұрын
Soon the pitching rubber will be placed a bit farther from the plate.
@markseslstorytellerchannel3418
@markseslstorytellerchannel3418 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how they even see the ball!
@thedorsinator
@thedorsinator Жыл бұрын
270 pitchers go into the IL in April? What?
@emmanuelwood8702
@emmanuelwood8702 Жыл бұрын
You mean higher velocity not faster.
@user-hn9qw7ou8d
@user-hn9qw7ou8d Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work so far with this channel. I don’t hand out compliments when they aren’t deserved. Don’t stop pumping these videos out. Your channel will blow up before long.
@averagebaseball
@averagebaseball Жыл бұрын
thank you, appreciate it!
@cjr1881
@cjr1881 Жыл бұрын
Lower the mound or move the rubber back a little.
@kyletangen9446
@kyletangen9446 Жыл бұрын
So steroids is still a favorite of ballplayers I see.
@YSFmemories
@YSFmemories Жыл бұрын
OPS: 0.799 "his OPS is over 800"
@SleepyRPGman
@SleepyRPGman Жыл бұрын
Move the mound back 6 inches
@zekeking8809
@zekeking8809 Жыл бұрын
If there were more guy with an approach like Luis Arraez, we would see a lot more guys hitting .325+
@anthonyharms6298
@anthonyharms6298 Жыл бұрын
All this video did, and I didn’t think that it was possible. was make appreciate Greg Maddux even more.
@NicNacYT
@NicNacYT Жыл бұрын
I think if baseball favored the game to hitting and there were way more home runs it would actually be fun to watch
@wildcat31772
@wildcat31772 Жыл бұрын
Over the decades they've done nearly everything possible to make it easier on hitters. What on earth could they do at this point? 'ok it's an automatic ball if you throw a ball over 100mph'?
@RedSoxfan107
@RedSoxfan107 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick to my Knuckleball and not risk blowing out my arm.
@italianwaterice9594
@italianwaterice9594 Жыл бұрын
lol,,, who cares , fanboy
@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing
@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing Жыл бұрын
You act like you get paid to play 😂🤡
@HBTSO
@HBTSO Жыл бұрын
Arm doctor stock prices going up
@InUteroKDC
@InUteroKDC Жыл бұрын
I believe a majority of these flamethrowers are juicing and it’s also leading to more injuries.
@jonathanstiemann3078
@jonathanstiemann3078 Жыл бұрын
Hitters will adjust!
@Mr-Deez
@Mr-Deez Жыл бұрын
good vid bro have my sub
@CheeseDizzle
@CheeseDizzle Жыл бұрын
I think they need to move the mound back at least 1.5 ft. to 64 ft. and lower it a few inches (probably like 1 to 2 inches). Modern pitching mechanics are similar to a trebuchet, the longer the arm and motion the higher velocity is possible. This is also why larger pitchers seem to able throw hard easier.
@webgem14
@webgem14 11 ай бұрын
They tried that in the minors and found that breaking pitches moved too much and there were even more strikeouts. I agree they need to do something.
@eyiss7236
@eyiss7236 Жыл бұрын
dope
@franklomes6828
@franklomes6828 Жыл бұрын
If this continues, we will one day see a pitcher throwing 150 mph ... until his arm rips off his body and flies through the strike zone with his hand still clutching the baseball.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
By that point we will probably be cyborgs, and all of these limits of nature will be behind us.
@lavaraids5938
@lavaraids5938 Жыл бұрын
Great video man
@Refill_2
@Refill_2 Жыл бұрын
Here before 1M subs
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