Fastest bands for 9.5 and 11mm steel Snipersling Black .70

Snipersling Black .70 Speed Test and Review
in this video we will review Snipersling black .7.
we will test speed, draw weight and penatration.
just a little hint these are the fastest bands I have tested for 9.5 and 11mm steel.

[@CatapultCarnage]

Great tip on those pit locator pouches, I'll definitely have to pick some up. Really pleased to see your still enjoying the Companion too 😀

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

Bub!

[@ATOMark]

All your frames are great man. So hard to put them down.

[@danielgreen3715]

I shoot .8 Snipersling Black with 9.5mm Steel and find it works well when cut at 35mm tapered to 25mm over about 17cm long ..Hard hitting and more knockdown power than a 22 Bullet

[@charlesdang2557]

Thanks for the review! Looking forward to the 0.7 Yellow review. Their 0.5 and 0.6 yellows are really smooth and fast for their thickness. I might also get their 0.8 too. Gonna be some real speed 🔥

[@seanmcphee1072]

I have the yellow there good can't believe how long they last

[@Bear-nu8xm]

I just received snipersling.7 green, super fast bands. I shoot 9.5 steel outdoor and clay indoors. I thought clay was extremely inaccurate until I put these new bands on. Now they fly so fast it’s spot on!

[@iangale2522]

Great video as always Mark. It always amazes me how increasing latex thickness by such tiny amounts makes such a difference. I've been shooting 0.45 ALS for a while and when I jumped up to some Precise 0.6 I actually heard my shoulder and back muscles creak!!! Oh yeah, audio was spot on as well. Thanks buddy

[@ATOMark]

Thanks man. It is surprising the difference. Draw is a major component for accuracy. I find it strange that so many people shoot heavier bands with light ammo like 8mm. I started out the same shooting .65 and 7 with 8mm steel and useing small tapers. When I tried out .5 my 8mm was going way faster with a lighter draw and way more accurate.

[@MrMann703]

Cool video, i have a simpleshot beanflip arriving soon with the .7 bands, i also have a 30" draw good to know the speed the set up can generate. Thanks for the video.

[@Homepeixe]

Magnificent review Mark. That band is 💣 cheers

[@ChuckinSteel]

Snipersling black are some smokers. Fastest iv tested too. They are just a lil heavy for the style of shooting I do or I would shoot them more. .5 black gives me about 325fps but I shake to bad

[@ATOMark]

Ya I think I got 327 but those bands were stretched to the max. I sure if I could turn green and pull these long draw I could reach 400fps. The black .5 I find a little heavy.

[@ChuckinSteel]

@@ATOMark yeah bc mine is just my target draw, not even full draw. No where close to max, they are nasty.

[@ItAintMeBabe99]

Great video. I will try these bands. After shooting my 70 lb draw compound bow, these should be a piece of cake!

[@k.o.skeeponshooting235]

Excellent review, nice solid whacks 💥 👍

[@ATOMark]

Man they are so fast. If I could max these out long draw im sure I could reach 400fps.

[@strummerman7174]

Yeah, I've been using the .7 in similar tapers for 9.5 steel, I'd like to try them with 11mm balls as well. Thanks for the video bro :)

[@ATOMark]

My pleasure man. What brand do you use?

[@mannynieves493]

Good review and thanks for the info 👍

[@AlpineForge9600]

Great work!!

[@edmcgugan2079]

Thanks for the review guy. Too heavy for me but hey, it sure sends that big ammo down range!

[@ATOMark]

Too heavy for me too. But some folks like that stuff. So there is the review. Lol

[@coyoteslings]

I just ordered some .5 ss black. I bet I'll like them. They're probably going to have a heavier draw than my usual .5 ss yellow. Those are some great speeds ,especially for short draw👌

[@tuongtitan]

Có vẻ như các bạn thích những chiếc ná tự làm nhiều hơn

[@ATOMark]

Yes I prefer to make my own bands. It costs less and I can make them how I like.

[@davidhansen9665]

Awsome video, I been practicing with heavy heavy loop bands insane draw weight, I'm able to stay on target pretty consistently, then going back to flat bands lighter draw weight its effortlessly, heavier draw makes a better shooter ima

[@ATOMark]

I see where you are coming from. And I agree to a point. I think someone starting out shouldn't start out with heavy bands but work up to heavy bands. I can see shooting crazy heavy bands 1 or 2 times a week as an exercise to build up draw strength. Which would give the shooter a more stable hold.

[@notsobadkarma]

i have the .7 yellow , its no where near a 14lb draw weight but id be very interested in seeing the speed of them , good vid as always Mark

[@ATOMark]

I will do a video of .7 yellow. It's hard to say but it will be probably around 12 or slightly more with maxed out bands. We will see soon.

[@armandogonzales9304]

I use GZKBand .54mm cut for "Full Butterfly Draw"

[@SoberIrishman2]

been shooting a 22-12 .6 for 9.5 steel. much easier on the draw but im still getting like 260 - 270 fps

[@ATOMark]

Oh ya , when im not testing 22-12 is my taper. I do all my tests with 24-12 because it's what I started with. I keep it going because it makes it easier to compare yhe different bands.

[@rickheasman8547]

Insane 9.5mm speed . I've been shooting the .7mm yellow , they seem fast but the black looks way faster . Looking forward to a review of the yellow , be interesting to see comparison especially the difference in draw weight .

[@ChuckinSteel]

I can help you with this, I shoot pretty much exclusively snipersling yellow .5. The black is faster but with a heavier draw weight by far. Pound for pound the yellow shoots extremely fast for the draw weight and is much more fun to shoot.

[@ATOMark]

Chucking steel makes a great point and I agree 100% . The .5 yellow and black are close to the same speed but yellow has a much lighter draw which makes for a more accurate setup. I shoot mostly snipersling yellow or gongchi white because of the lighter draw. I will try to get that video done soon.

[@rickheasman8547]

I have to agree having a smoother lighter draw means you can practice more without fatigue . Been using the .85 Great White for 11mm steel for the same reason . At the end of the day accuracy tops power every time .

[@sosteve9113]

Great review, what a speed you can achieve with some simple rubber bands

[@ATOMark]

I have no idea. I would love to try that but I have no idea where to get wide rubber bands that I can taper.

[@robertstonestreet6079]

It would be great to see you shoot a plastic bottle full of water to see if you can get it to exit. Water is very resistant and a little bit similar to ballistic jelly.

[@puregameplay7916]

I like the 9.5mm steel because you can get good passthroughs on rabbit and squirrel on body shots, and a shot to the skull will still kill it. 9.5mm ball bearing weighs 53.96gr and going at 300fps its pushing 10.79fpe.

[@ZwillenBendiger]

i just tested snipersling black .7 with a 1,2 gramm projectile and a cut from 11mm to 9mm in short draw, i reached 330fps so maybe you don't even need to put such an extreme taper on to reach those speeds, but i don't have any 9,5 or 11mm steel to confirm ore deny

[@ATOMark]

Is that an 8mm steel you tested?

[@ZwillenBendiger]

@@ATOMark no, my 8mm wheigh 2,1g, i used 6,7mm

[@Jaws1946]

Thanks Mark great video😉 one question what is the the best distance to start with now I have practiced at around 17ft in my workshop (only2 broken windows 😆). Keep smiling

[@ATOMark]

I like 10m or 33'. It is pretty much the tournament standard

[@qutube100]

Nice review Vicar!

[@luigidiaz5493]

Damn good vid I'm pretty new with flatland slingshots and this whole time I've been shooting with .7 bands ima have to try thinner bands see how it works for me

[@ATOMark]

I have done videos on many .5 bands and they are my go to.

[@shaunwild8797]

Would you say Snipersling black is better than GZK Black?

[@ATOMark]

Better speed yes. But gzk black has a better draw and life.

[@shaunwild8797]

@@ATOMark Thank you from the UK.

[@zsoltkizlinger5055]

Mark can you tell me what is the max stretch ratio from this bands? I'm searching for hunting setup! Thanks a lot.😊

[@tanner2stryker2]

Great speed and power from snipersling. 07 but terrible band life .80 is better for longevity .much better band out there now catty shack red shot much better and gzk green 1mm cut at 25/20 11mmsteel and 10mm lead like lazers

[@AnubhavAnkitGeorge]

Great review sir, can u do another video close to you target chronography. Let see how much FPS ur ammo reaches to curtain distance.

[@ATOMark]

Thats a good Idea. I will see if I can get it done.

[@AnubhavAnkitGeorge]

Sure sir I ll be waiting for it. That's how we would be asure how much power left in ur ammo to hit the target..

[@jimmynich4791]

Some people think thicker is faster with bands but if they're too thick there's too much friction and they'll actually be slower. Thicker bands are needed to move heavier ammo but you actually want the thinest that will efficiently move the bbs.

[@ATOMark]

Yup exactly right. Thinner bands have faster retraction. There is a sweet spot for bands and ammo. Just takes a little experimenting to find the right one for you.

[@jimmynich4791]

@ATOMark I bet someone has done the tests and has it all correlated somewhere. There's probably a sweet spot for widths & tapers as well but more for speed & band life, if the taper is too accute the bands won't last long at all.

[@ATOMark]

Yes very true. I have done videos on speed vs longevity. Some people think they get max speed with max longevity...... I believe they made a mistake. In all my testing, and I have done a lot..... a real lot. Max speed equals short life. Long life equals slower speeds. Really it is all about the balance of active band length, tapers and ammo and the shooters expectations. It is pretty simple the more stress you put on your bands the less they will last. Once you find a setup you like that meets your expectations of performance and longevity stick with it.

[@jimmynich4791]

@@ATOMark Have you tested tubes much? Would be interesting how to get the most out of them, I find they have good band life but can be quite hard to draw.

[@ATOMark]

I have dabbled a little with tubes but not really tested them. I much prefer flat bands. I find them far more accurate.

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

Just bought their .7 .6 .5 bands. Screamers.

[@ATOMark]

The all have a heavy pull but man they send them.

[@jasonbensley693]

Broke my collarbone a few weeks ago gona bee a while before I get back to the .7 yep there fast 🤘👍💥

[@ATOMark]

Oh no. Heal fast my friend

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

Get better bub!. I've snapped both sides 3 times. Take it slow

[@lilfire4332]

How come my 0.6mm 220 bands are really slow my other bands shoot wayyyy faster also they break so fast why is that?

[@Geopoliticstoday2]

Thanks bub! I buy the .7 .6 .5 premade from Snipersling. Love them. a question.... OTT...do you do V or A tie on or clip.

[@ATOMark]

I don't know which one is which but I will post a picture on the community post. Of my setup.

[@ATOMark]

I have clipped frames and tie on frames. I prefer clipped.

[@Geopoliticstoday2]

@@ATOMark Thank you!

[@jackle842000]

I was looking to hunt with 3/8" steel. What's your favorite band for speed with 3/8" that is light enough pull to be accurate too? Just curious what band you'd pick and how it compares to this snipersling black .7. anything else that can penetrate cans like that with a lighter pull?

[@ATOMark]

I have not seen anything that goes that fast but you might want to have a look at south wales cattys .75. That stuff shoots really nice.

[@Sissling]

Hey mate Great video I cant find the snipersling yellow .70 video Cheers Mikkel

[@ATOMark]

Oh sorry Mikkel I haven't done that one yet it is on my to do list. I will do it soon.

[@peem3154]

Great job man , like it. Where can I buy only the latex band .7mm

[@ATOMark]

Snipersling.com

[@shaunwild8797]

Hi Mark. I just purchased some snipersling band roll and I'm not to impressed. I'm only getting fifty shots before breakage. Surely that's isn't right? Also the breakages are at the top end and not the tapered end.

[@ATOMark]

Woah that is really strange. I'm assuming that there isn't a ruff spot on your slingshot it is crashing into?

[@shaunwild8797]

@@ATOMark No rough spot, I checked it all over. I'm hoping it was just a manufacturing flaw just in that area of the roll. I'll let you know how I get on when I've made some more sets. Thanks Mark.

[@jamesmelton9705]

I'm surprised a 8mm wasn't thrown in there just for shits and giggles lol awesome videos sir! I always look forward to seeing what you do in your videos.

[@ATOMark]

Lol I was thinking about it but I was worried the sonic boom would piss off the neighbors 😂

[@bikramjeetsidhu9749]

I got a roll in.7, l did make some bands and yes they are fast. As l dont have a chronograph so have no idea how fast the 9.5mm were going.

[@ATOMark]

Oh ya. It's best not to max them out like I did but you will still get really fast speeds with a "normal setup"

[@luigimerola8180]

With this band kill pheasant?

[@ATOMark]

Yup at those speeds not a problem

[@luigimerola8180]

@@ATOMark what is the best thickness of this band for hunting?

[@ATOMark]

I know you are looking for a number but my answer to this is use the thickness you can shoot accurately with that matches your ammo. I would start with .7 with 9.5mm and .8mm minimum for 11mm steel.

[@luigimerola8180]

@@ATOMark hi, I get the spheres from scunittetti and therefore sometimes I find spheres around 9 mm and other times also spheres of 11-13 mm so what thickness do you recommend?

[@ATOMark]

.65 for 9mm and .8 for 11-13mm

[@Catapultpower]

Hi Mark Good morning. God Bless. May I ask, what will be the best band thickness for a 7 mm steal and 8 mm steal for hunting. Because I am using a 1 mm thickness precise band with 7 mm steal and I am getting the shot but not the kill. As I don't like the prey getting away injured. I rather have them down to eat. Any advise and tests will be very much appreciated. I am always looking out for your videos and receiving fantastic reviews. Thanks in advance.

[@ATOMark]

Good morning my friend. There are some people that hunt with 8mm steel but head shots are a must. 7mm steel I probably wouldn't try. The less weight the less energy you will have to drop your critter. For those size projectiles I would use .5, .55 or .6 maybe even .45 with some bands like bsb or snipersling. The lighter the projectile the more important speed is so I would reccomend snipersling black .5 they are extremely fast but don't last very long. You can get over 300fps with them if you tune your bands properly.

[@Catapultpower]

@@ATOMark Thanks for the Info Mark. Will try a heavier ammo.

[@tungnguyen-qy7du]

8:44 Hi, in my country many have used 8mm steel balls for hunting and knocked out small games without problems. For 8mm band setups shoud be 25-14 or 25-13 if you are using precise 0.65; 22-12 precise 0.75. Precise 1mm will work better with 11mm steel balls.

[@edwardgomez3633]

Nice vid.. I’ve been using .7 Simpleshot Black for a few years. Do the Snipersling last?

[@ATOMark]

Depends who you ask it seems. They have been pretty good for me if I don't max them out and when I use Cristal string

[@edwardgomez3633]

@@ATOMark ok thanks.

[@sawemshotem]

14 pounds is a little much I got a reading of just under 10 on my scale? Edit I use .7 precise

[@ATOMark]

These bands are maxed out at my draw length. I agree they are heavy. I prefer lighter bands but I have never reached any speeds close to this with any other brand.

[@user-lj3po9fe5v]

Where can I get these in 24 12? On the snipersling website they sell 20 12. Any idea on the power difference?

[@ATOMark]

I don't know where you can get them. I make my own bands. 24- 12 definately have more zip. But don't last as long and have a heavier draw.

[@edwardgomez3633]

How important is tapering the bands. There are a few world class shooters that don’t taper. I bought a frame from one of them and received several un tapered bands with it.

[@ATOMark]

Really it is all personal choice but there are a few things to considder. Tapered bands 99% of the time break at the pouch which is good because it goes away from your face instead of towards you. 2 tapered bands tend to be faster. Besides that it is all personal preference. I just did a video on this very topic with speeds and draw weights.

[@joix6334]

Why does the smaller ammo have more penetration than the bigger ammo? 9.5mm vs 11mm. Is it the speed?

[@ATOMark]

Smaller surface area and higher speed. The larger ammo has less speed but pushes more energy into the target.

[@joix6334]

@@ATOMark Interesting thanks

[@duncanstewart1569]

I’ve just bought snipersling .7 green , does the colour make any difference?

[@ATOMark]

Yes the color does make a difference. Black is very fast but the draw is heavier and the longevity isn't great. The yellow is fast has a lighter draw and has decent life. I don't have any experience with the green .7. I do have the .4 and it performs great but I had longevity problems.

[@duncanstewart1569]

Thanks

[@luigimerola8180]

hi, I ordered the black snipersling bands for 8 days and for 2 days it tells me that the package is at the airport, how long did it take for you? Did your parcel also remain at the airport for a few days?

[@ATOMark]

It all depends where you live. If it is at the air port here. Then customs is the problem. If it is there I don't know. If you have an issue with anything Min will take care of you. Don't worry. Just shoot him a message. Where did you order the bands from?

[@luigimerola8180]

@@ATOMark I ordered the bands from Italy

[@ATOMark]

@Luigi Merola I really can't give you any insight on this one bro. I always buy my snipersling products from snipersling and a couple times from wasp. You will need to contact the supplier you bought from.

[@-_ellipsis_-5219]

Why not use .5 latex with a wider cut? Wouldn't that be faster than a .7 band of a narrower cut?

[@ATOMark]

No it wouldn't, and it wouldn't be able to move heavy ammo. I have done tests with straight cut and tapered cuts. Tapers always win. I think you really have to find the sweet spot for your size ammo. Personally I shoot .45 and .5 with 8mm steel. Certain bands handle 9.5 pretty well with well tuned bands but I haven't found a .5 band that can handle 11mm steel.

[@-_ellipsis_-5219]

@ATO that doesn't seem right, though. .5mm latex cut wide can have the same amount of rubber in total as whatever cut you're using of .7mm. And from what we understand, thinner rubber retracts faster than thicker rubber.

[@ATOMark]

@-_ Ellipsis _- you are right but it has its limits. That's why guys like Wayne Martin shoots .8 with a taper 25-20 for 11mm steel. I have done a video on how tapers affect speed with 3or 4 different tapers and 2 different size ammo. Results were interesting.

[@-_ellipsis_-5219]

@@ATOMark that really is interesting. I'm surprised the thinner rubber wouldn't just flat out be faster. Elastomers never fail to baffle me.

[@Heathfloors]

Another great vid Mark . I shot 11mm mostly for hunting. Do your think the black .7 o..8 for 11mm steel im hunting setup short draw?

[@ATOMark]

260 fps is really fast. In the end it comes down to the draw weight. Can you shoot that draw weight accurately?

[@sawemshotem]

Let's goo I'm a big Boi. I use .7 everday.

[@ATOMark]

You will love these. They move big ammo really fast

[@gillismartin328]

Can I order those bands somewheres already made up?

[@ATOMark]

I think snipersling might have them.

[@MyChannelprathna]

Good shot bro

[@ATOMark]

Thanks man

[@bwstsnserwtrng]

I shoot 8mm steelballs with theraband black in full butterfly and the speed on a warm day is average 426 fps, but sadly the bandsets dont last verry long (average around 30shots) Due to that i'm in search for a new latex which lasts little bit longer and shoots the same speeds as theraband black Does anyone know if snipersling black could reach the same speeds as theraband black on 8mm steelballs when i take 0.7 ore 0.8 and apply the same tapers ?

[@ATOMark]

Snipersling black and yellow are both really fast elastic. If you tune them correctly. I'm sure you will reach the same speeds or faster. Snipersling .5 is the fastest bands I have tested with 8mm steel.

[@bwstsnserwtrng]

@@ATOMark thank you verry much🙏🤍 Usually it is told that thinner bands are faster then thicker bands, but i thaught about .7 ore .8, because of the recordset in our community The recordshot with 8mm steel and doublelayer theraband black in full butterfly was 507 fps, but the record was broken with 511fps 8mm steel with a single layer .9 latex (sadly this latex is no were to find anymore) this latex was called lilatex and it was purple, so i thaught maybe if i take .7 ore .8 snipersling black i will get similar results

[@ATOMark]

@bwstsnserwtrng .7 snipersling black is the fastest bands I have ever tested with 9.5mm steel short draw. I think it was 315fps. The draw is heavy but I would imagine long draw you could reduce the draw weight with great speed.

[@bwstsnserwtrng]

@@ATOMark yes, i saw it verry impressive , only due to your video about it, i have now a good option (thank you once more) The drawwheight should be no problem it is not much different to the drawweight of doublelayer theraband black

[@superbalaur1297]

24-12 taper with .7mm thick Snipersling black is an insanely heavy pull! Please don’t fall into the trap of recommending such thing for hunting! Shot placement is king and every hunter should be encouraged to hunt with the most accurate setup NOT the most powerful!

[@ATOMark]

Agreed I reccomend that people hunt with the band they can most accurately shoot. Shot placement is king in every situation. When I do these band tests I am trying to show the potential speed of the bands. I am not reccomending people use the setup I am useing. Most likely these bands would be shooting at 270fps tapered at 20-12 for 9.5 mm steel and not maxed out. They would have a much lighter draw and be comfortable to shoot accurately and hunt with.

[@sherrygrewal1985]

For me the sweet spot is 20x10 taper. 0.60 thickness and active length of 4.7 times the full draw length for a 3/8 (9mm) ball. All day shooting without problems and a good hunting setup for small game. Simpleshot black.

[@AndrewAn-j7b]

@@sherrygrewal1985 how about the band life for your 0.6 Simpleshot black? I find mine 0.6 ss black has a good band life if not maxed out but it only has about 4.5 extension ratio

[@craigyoung6661]

I do like the speed of the black .5 but the band life is terrible, sometimes less than 50 shots

[@ATOMark]

Really. I have never had that happen. But when I use amber belt I have problems.

[@tommarshall5781]

Did you ever get round to testing the .7 yellow ?

[@ATOMark]

No, not yet, but I will soon. It's hard to test bands over and over. It gets a little boring.

[@tommarshall5781]

@@ATOMark yeah dude I bet it does. You always put out top quality content so all in your own time my man look forward to watching it when you get around to it 👍

[@ATOMark]

Thanks for understanding. In the new year I will be doing test videos, reviews and some kind of outdoor video. That way it will keep things interesting.

[@boatingman11]

What do they have for 1/2" lead?

[@ATOMark]

I believe they go right up to 1mm.

[@boatingman11]

@ATO Thank you very much. I just placed an order for every size that they have. You inspired me to experiment.

[@davidmitchell8357]

What percentage elongation were you using?

[@ATOMark]

They were maxed out to my draw length. If I remember, the max elongation was 6x.

[@davidmitchell8357]

Thank you! I bet you didn’t get many shots before the bands wore out!

[@ATOMark]

@David Mitchell no under 100, I think. But to be fair all brands I have tested don't do well maxed out.

[@jobeyhughes8228]

What the life span like on these bands

[@ATOMark]

When you max them out the life is pretty bad but when you make normal bands they are still really fast and get average band life.

[@jobeyhughes8228]

Alright thanks mate

[@luigimerola8180]

Hi, today I was going to kill a few chickens from my chicken coop with a black 0.7 sniper band I saw that I made a hole under the head in the meat but it didn't give any sign of giving up and it didn't kill them, I fired at 2 meters

[@ATOMark]

Shot placement is key my friend. You have to make head shots.

[@gazwit1603]

11mm steel theraband black 22mm to 11mm 3 bands per side cut to 290mm 1500mm draw 295fps german tolsten 😂😂😂