The Slow Deterioration of Gran Turismo

[@DoVe_7]

That was fantastic to watch! I never had a console when growing up and with emulation I was able to try these games out and I can see why these games impacted a lot of people, the gameplay, music, atmosphere, so many things just made these games such a joy to play, thank you for having me in this video aswell ❤

[@callmemike__1]

I’ve been watching you videos/clips/highlights. I’m really loving everyone who has been making GT content lately. Keep it up!

[@wyattroland2187]

Sup

[@Rockport1911]

Thats why emulation is so important, I spend my youth playing NfS on PC which was great, now years later I can play GT4 in high quality on PCSX2 and even have access to gems like Enthusia or TXR :) Even GT6 is playable on RPCS3 now, it looks good but has drawbacks and I know what people mean when they critic modern GT...

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Rockport1911GRAN TURISMO Sport and 7 are basically the games that killed GT franchises.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@callmemike__1GT7 for me is the one that killed the GT franchise.

[@FirstnameLastname-xq4rp]

The variety of cars in GT6 was unparalleled, and I preferred buying whatever car I wanted in GT6 over the randomly available cars in the used dealership in GT5. It was frustrating to see a car you wanted or needed become available in the used dealership but not have enough credits. You just knew that after you won enough races to earn the credits you needed, it would be gone. Want easy credits in GT6? Win the '89 Toyota Minolta and race it at Indy in the "Like the Wind" series. If you tune it right, you can win without even trying and just mine the event for credits (about 70,000 every three minutes or so if I remember correctly).

[@DustinEdenYT]

That DustinEden guy sure got some nerve talking smack about GT5

[@Fastminer07]

That definitely isn't what I'm gonna use for the thumbnail on the full interview edit with him.

[@stingertv7363]

😂

[@wyattroland2187]

Sup

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Fastminer07even me, Lanzhu Zhong and ShioPomu (Ayumu Uehara and Shioriko Mifune) all also hated Gran Turismo 7. GT7 and Sport are basically killed GT franchises.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@stingertv7363GT games from 1 to 6 are this: 👍 GT Sport and 7: 👎

[@qmto]

I think the main thing I miss about older Gran Turismo games (in addition to the 'loose' chase cam from GT1-GT3) is the lack of 'regular' consumer cars. My greatest joys playing GT, came from taking a severely underpowered car, like a front wheel drive Celica, and tuning it to max, and trying to win some supercar cup with it. Stuff like that. Or taking ordinary cars and Racing Modifying them, that was always super fun. And that's all gone now.

[@kivsanchez811]

Nailed it!

[@schirmcharmemelone]

slow car fast > fast car fast

[@kazefw3834]

What can I say, I love my fast shitbox 😂, stagea wagon racecar in gt2 goes brrrrrrt 😂

[@hardlylivin6602]

GT5 had that too. I found every car that had the race spec mod option and maxed them out. My only gripes with GT5 were the lack of customization, and the fact that the performance upgrades were too limited. If I want a Honda Civic to have 1000 horsepower, then let me do just that. NFS is even allowing that now. GT5 had an arbitrary performance cap on every car.

[@awdrifter3394]

This is why I never got GT Sport. I found that feeling again in Forza Horizon 5, engine swap, drivetrain swap, turbo kits. I can make a shitbox Civic EK to Class S1.

[@szlash280z]

GT7 with the PSVR2, a direct drive wheel and sim cockpit is one of the greatest experiences to ever be had. It is so awesome in VR.

[@H3R3_T0_L3ARN]

It is amazing but it seems to barely punish the destruction derby drivers (typically red dots). I think I’ll go back to iRacing.

[@szlash280z]

I haven't played online with it yet but I have seen a bunch of videos showing that. I'm not a very good racer so the offline AI races, car collecting and arcade-y controls aspect is great for me. I do try to do well but I don't have consistency in my laps.

[@paulv5733]

Agree 100%, GT7 isn't perfect but the VR experience is so well done I can honestly say it's the most immersive and enjoyable experience I've had in 30+ years of gaming. It's everything I hoped it would be.

[@sonyx5332]

I really loved the first time I tried the PSVR2 with GT7 for the amount of minutes I spent using it but after an hour I started feeling sick and my eyes feeling like they were burning inside. I have tried a few more times and always after 30 plus minutes I start to feel sick again (even after trying some recommendations) to where I no longer want to keep on using it. The videos that they show on YT of recorded PSVR2 GT7 game plays looks much better than the in-game image/resolution you see when using the PSVR2.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@sonyx5332some can handle vr some cant, its very different from everyone, i have no problems with it, psvr2 has very small sweetspot, so if you dont get that right it Will not look as it should set it up right it can look incrediable and very realistic almost as you feel like you are in the real car, the graphics is simular to 1080p tv as i use to have that, the graphics is more than good enough to feel the immersion with every car, it looks better than most games in vr

[@ColSanders27]

I played GT4 religiously through college. Beat it to the 100th percentile. A proud moment. I saved the video of the final Nurburgring test with the Mercedes SLR McLaren. Took months of playing to perfect it.

[@el3ndir97]

Gt4 had so much content So sadge how Gt series has fallen 😢

[@Insert.anger50]

Yeh that final nurburgh ring licence test was as far as i got , it was too daunting to continue trying so i just enjoyed the 216 cars i had

[@joetroutt7425]

Yes I remember that race. It was so damn hard I never could finish it. I eventually bought a PS4 and didn't look back. I wish I had a PS2 again just to try and beat that race. I have a steering wheel and everything just for that game.

[@Robswrkshp]

Dude, you brought me back to the days where me and my brothers didn't have a ps2 memory card, and we'd keep our ps2 on for like 2 weeks straight with all of our hard work put into GT 4, just to have it taken away by my aunt who thought we accidentally left it on. Man, it was so fun. I now play GT sport with VR occasionally. Thank you for this.

[@moltengears7483]

Ik that same person turned it off EVERY TIME they where there

[@nicotine_twoshot]

didn't games come with memory cards?

[@darkness2061]

​@@nicotine_twoshotnot every one and sometimes you lose the card after some time. Happend to me with midnight club 3 lol

[@Galbz883]

Dudes at that point you tape over it I'm sorry

[@deadsi]

I bet you cried 🙂 not dissing tho

[@flame_101]

Gran Turismo 1 was actually the first GT to feature the iconic jazzy soundtrack. The Japan version feature the jazzy music, but not the western version because of region preference

[@AutoAndChill]

Can't believe we were denied the jazzyness, Sony truly hates western gamers.

[@daveraschke]

Honestly I always appreciated the US version of Gran Turismo one because it's such an outlier in terms of its overall musical stylings compared to the rest of series

[@Aaron-l2w5p]

​@@daveraschke PAL version has Feeder though, they have fantastic songs in GT1 and 3 to be fair

[@aluisious]

"We made this game with jazz music because it's cool. Now remove that for the American version, because that's where jazz came from, therefore they must not like jazz."

[@darksuns7384]

I have a CD of the soundtrack

[@testtest-lc4xz]

I think GT2 literally saved my life. Because I had been playing it so much in college, I got a good feel for how cars handle at high speeds. One day while driving on the freeway in Southern California, another car pulled right into my lane going very slowly. I had to slam on the brakes, and my car started drifting sideways. Because of my experience playing GT2, I was able to modulate the braking to maintain control of my car, potentially saving my life.

[@deadsi]

Definitely saved me a lot of money on driving lessons. I was able to drive automatic pretty much immediately, just had to learn clutch control for manual cause I only had a brake/accelerator steering wheel for my ps3

[@tyzilla358]

If I can't play single player while being offline.......the game is trash

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Cry about it lol you can do that in GT Sport now so if you wanna keep crying about always online (even though it literally is not always online and never was) go for it. This isn't the crew yet you still act like it is LOL

[@motinolawson6638]

​@@HugoStiglitz88This is the arrongance make the brand die. After you will ask why there is no players or why they play another platforms. Dont forget we pay for the game.

[@TMind109]

​@@HugoStiglitz88not everyone is a spoiled brat that can afford high speed internet like you, some of us just want to play the game without needing internet AND a subscription. From now on you should keep that forsaken ego of yours in check

[@YF-23_BLACK_WIDOW_ii]

​@@HugoStiglitz88 can you fucking speak english, you autistic adopted spaz?

[@calzone.mp3]

For precisely this reason I’m waiting for Crowbcat to make a “Remember Gran Turismo” video with Polyphony outright forgetting why people liked GT.

[@TeaTimeCorner]

The original GT was what had made me into a car enthusiast. It introduced me to the car I ended up buying. WRX.

[@JeffreyGoddin]

Nice, me, too, though I quickly fell even more obsessively in love with GT2. I've owned 4 Z cars so far...

[@Getitstraightyo]

I would buy a WRX if it didnt feel so cheap and shitty. Fun car but the build quality is terrible

[@1mariomaniac]

Same here, always thought cars were cool but playing GT3 at such a young age solidified my love for cars.

[@caderandall3807]

Me too man, a WRX

[@GhostSal]

I never got into racing games, with one exception… Gran Turismo, the amount of cars (based on real cars), tracks (based on real tracks), and the fact the cars each handled differently with the ability to tune and upgrade that won me over completely. On the latter stages, I spent hours just to get to the finish of one race and get that gold. I got about 97% complete after playing for nearly a year, when my son erased my game : (

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

Its amazing how GT always seem to push graphics and content wise for generations. It's amazing how impressive GT3 and 4 hold up to this day- they still are gorgeous looking games on top of their gameplay that still is so much fun to play with.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Not even GT7 have those depth. Basically Gran Turismo 7 is like Madden NFL 13. REMOVING SO MANY GREAT FEATURES.

[@duskgnu80]

This is funny, after 20+ years ps2 drive went out so I hijacked my sons series s and started emulating my gt3&4 and madden 07 upconverted now and my mind was blown on the reminder how much better games were back then.

[@tim3172]

@breathoffreshair7314 1000000000000%. It's so disingenuous to pretend that literally anyone played the game in this visual fidelity until the late 2010's. The footage shown has enhanced lighting, texture filtering, and *DRAMATICALLY* enhanced resolution.

[@Decenium]

I mean what else are they going to push?

[@Owyn_Merrilin]

@breathoffreshair7314 Yes and no. They didn't look anything like a raw 240p/480i capture played on a modern screen, either. CRTs were a fundamentally different display tech and the artists took advantage of their quirks. The really annoying thing is there's some really good CRT emulation shaders out there, but you almost never see them used in footage that's supposed to show what old games looked like.

[@woodzy575]

GT 1 was mind blowing when released. to watch a camera perspective replay after the race was so far above any other game. the licenses were brutal, but the special cars were worth the suffering and that made it fun to try and try and try again.

[@acerimmer8338]

It really was mind-boggling. "This game has how many cars?! And they're all real???"

[@JackoBanon1]

Gran Turismo 1 was definitely a great experience. But if you're honest the cheap and used cars you had in the beginning felt more or less the same and the whole content was quite limited. They just made the licenses and many races extra difficult so that it would make the playing time of the game longer. Gran Turismo 2 was mind blowing for me. All the stuff you could do there with so many new and different cars was such a huge upgrade from 1 content-wise.

[@jaymxu]

​@@JackoBanon1Yeha GT2 was insane, everybody talked about it, i remember going to my friends house bringing my playstation and some snacks and weed and whatnot just to binge the whole weekend and race in turns.

[@kill3rbyysight]

right

[@bhdproduction2007]

you had a great child hood memory just like me about GT1.

[@thecoffeebadger5807]

I've been playing GT since the very first one on the PS1 and then GT4, GT5, and GT6. GT is what inspired me to be a serious racing gamer, GT4 is what humbled me as a serious racing gamer, GT5's online community is what led me to be a veteran racing gamer, and GT6 was just a love letter DLC to GT5. I started playing Gran Turismo 5 recently on my dusty old ps3 and I checked my garage of all my cars. Some are still stuck online for sharing which they were the cars that I competed at the time and I just smiled at the cars I used in those years. Each favorited car had history of just drifting in the servers, penalty racing in Nurburgring, and flexing my Sebas Redbull Race Car for completing the Red Bull Challenge. The Gran Turismo games from 4 to 6 were the best games I ever played throughout my time playing them. Thank you so much for sharing this video. It does bring a lot of great memories.

[@pietrolollo1233]

Gran turismo 4 is still to this day my favourite racing game,i loved it,every part of it.

[@seekeroftruth101]

I remember like yesterday. I walked into Blockbuster to rent a game. I saw the game cover of Gran Turismo for the very first time. My curiosity peaked. I reached for the box art & flipped the box. The art, the graphics, the detailed cars; now I was intrigued. I rented the game, popped it into my PSOne and the best description of how it all felt playing the game? Magic. Literally, magic!

[@rogerdodger1790]

Really sweet comment. Brought back a lot of memories for me too man 😊

[@hrdcpy]

I played the original Gran Turismo demo disc on a 13in TV for hours and probably watched the race replays for twice as long. It was such an insane experience looking back.

[@johnnybravo9096]

The ability of watching them in the super hi res, high frame rate mode as well.

[@darksuns7384]

I played the first Gran Turismo off a chipped playstation with the japanese import. Wasn't until the english release that we figured out what the engine modification that increased displacement was only available to the R33 Skyline.

[@SmokeySingh101]

GT5 i was still in school at 13, the 458 italia just came out and the SLS too.....BMW put a V10 in the M5 and a V8 in the M3.....and top gear was still on top........good times🥲

[@WeencieRants]

For nearly 6 months after getting a PS2 for Christmas in 2001, Gran Turismo 3 was the only game I owned. It holds a special place in my collection but GT4 will always be my favorite.

[@IntoTheFire777]

Dude, those GT sounds of you clicking though a menu at the start of this video gave me ALL the nostalgia good feelings LMAO

[@eurikadude]

I really appreciate the fact that you actually criticized GT4 unlike most other people (including me). Also the part about the GT community being a lot more chill than others is pretty true in my experience, good video man

[@purwantiallan5089]

GT4 still GOATED along with Nijigasaki High School Idol Club.

[@fikridroid]

​@@purwantiallan5089 for me, its the Sonic Adventure games and their Sonic X anime adaptation, Final Fantasy X and XII, the live-action Matrix trilogy, first two albums of Linkin Park, and the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy, it's the pop culture phenomenon that I grown fond of and was born on the same era that GT was peaked

[@Weird.Dreams]

gt4 sucked shit, understeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@nsx_montana]

Ah man, that video hits right in the feels. Seeing the memories visualized of Gt3 and Gt4, being a kid sometimes allowed to use my dads Playstation it feels so sentimental. Also coming into GT5 and 6, but especially 5, the soundtrack and the overall feel just teleports me back in time where i was happy and life was so simple. Thanks for that beautiful video mate🤍

[@purwantiallan5089]

Even me and Lanzhu Zhong and Tifa Lockhart all still have big memories that i remembered fondly when playing GT1 to 6.

[@Weird.Dreams]

bit gay

[@Why_does_this_exist_YouTube]

I grew up on Gran Turismo 6. I will always love that game, it is cool to see one of my favorite creators making a video about the series.

[@purwantiallan5089]

The intro movie of GT6 even also managed to be on par with another GOATED intro, Colorful Dreams Colorful Smiles from Nijigasaki High School Idol Club!

[@TheMrDemonized]

And it got the least amount of time in the video, speaks how there is nothing to say about it

[@TheTonytone77]

Dam how old are u 18

[@vegetsu_racing57]

@@purwantiallan5089 Agree with you. The intro movie still gives me chills and few tears. GT6 was my childhood

[@EximiusDux]

@@TheTonytone77The comment also made me double check for a moment, but GT6 came out 10 years ago and soon 11 years ago (2024). That's enough time for a 10 year old kid to turn into a 20 year old man.

[@revenanke3132]

The harsh reception of GT7 among fans attests to how passionate we are about this series. I hadn't played a Gran Turismo game since the 4th, having gone the Xbox 360 route and veered into Forza Motorsport (I never played Horizon and hate those games with a passion). Some of my best gaming memories are from GT4, and I will never forget when my dad took me to buy it on release, seeing that huge white promotional stand at the video game store. When you played the GT4 opening cutscene I felt I was reunited with an old childhood friend. That was actually how I was envisioning my experience with GT7 would be. I bought a PS5 solely to play the game. This was during the time when the console was infamously difficult to obtain. I joined a Discord server to get notifications of when PS5 were available for purchase, and one day when I was sitting on the toilet I got a notification that they were available on Amazon and spent the next 30 minutes while still on the toilet, spamming the checkout button until my order finally went through. My PS5 was ready and I only had to wait until release. Like we all experienced, the old childhood friend had changed beyond recognition and somehow you couldn't even bring yourself to liking them. I spent a few weeks grinding the game, skipping all the obnoxious dialogue and speedrunning through the cafe menus. I refused to open any of the roulette tickets. Then I stopped playing the game completely and didn't boot it up again for over 2 years. In that time, I was looking at other recent PS5 releases to wash away the foul taste GT7 had left in my mouth, and decided to buy a game that had released a few weeks prior to excellent reception (not just from "gaming journalists", but actual gamers) called Elden Ring. That was my first Fromsoft game and it admittedly made me fall in love with gaming all over again, and I have since played every game of theirs since Demons Souls, both remakes and originals, all DLCs and some games multiple times. But that is unrelated. As you can guess, I have returned to GT7, curiously as my father was visiting - the memory of him taking me to buy GT4 somehow keeps popping up. I have learned to appreciate GT7. They have added loads more content since I last played it, and the prize money is much more generous than I remember. I have also learned to accept the fact that I can never buy all the cars I want and just gotta enjoy what I have. However, I can still see the passion Polyphony Digital and Kazunori Yamauchi have put into their game. They still love Gran Turismo and they still wish to communicate the magic of cars, even though we can all agree they missed the mark with their novel vision for GT7, but at least they tried. There's a video called "Gran Turismo 7 vs Forza Isn't close" which made me realise that Gran Turismo is still a passion project, as is obvious when you compare it to something that is not. This is also apparent when you recognise the overly polished details of GT7. The haptic feedback and adaptive triggers of the Dual Sense controller has given force feedback to the masses. I had never imagined that playing a racing game with a controller would feel this involving. The weather simulation and how the track dries to form dry lines amongst puddles, and the wet driving physics, and the tyre degredation; absolutely amazing. These are things you don't notice until you're far into the game, and they didn't need to put them in there either. I drove my first endurance race recently and was in awe when everything turned pitch black and the rain swept in - absolute immersion - GT7 just provides an amazing driving experience.

[@BadDriverrr]

I appreciate the thought that went into writing this. Personally, when I hit 505/505 cars accessed, I put down the game and never thought about it again until this video popped up. To me, GT3 was the opposite of GT7 - GT3 was unforgettable. GT7 is entirely forgettable

[@toninhopavan2]

Ta AI still sucks though And the single player is not racing. Its a chase

[@operatorsolidsnake2542]

Horizon and forza are great u ignoring them is ridiculous. I started on gran turismo 1 played 2 3 4 played prologue and etc etc I have love for both. Horizon and forza are great for drifting and drag racing I do a lot of no prep racing. And there not perfect but I’ve played forza since forza 1 and horizon 1 also

[@Tichooon]

Man that GT4 intro.... still makes me tear up for some reason. One of the best video game intros ever made imo. I remember when it came out, I was a big fan of the series already and when I watched that intro I got shivers and was so happy to have this new GT game ahead of me.

[@tonybrown2462]

You're not kidding.... absolutely amazing intro.

[@Insert.anger50]

Tscumba wet circuit, 3 laps and you get the mazda 6 race car and sell it, i think it was 99 k it was how i got paid so i can buy cars like the panoz race car so you can do the endurance races, omfg the 24 hr race

[@mrxbas]

Great video! I have to say that, although some of the main titles (especially the later ones) aren't being held in such high regard as the older ones, I do still think that they managed to push the envelope in some way (for example, Gran Turismo 7's Scapes, customization and car detail are incredible, especially since it can run on both a PS4 and PS5). That will be something that the series will probably be forever known for and is IMO what makes both the games themselves and the community around it so good!

[@purwantiallan5089]

@mrxbas, have u listened Colorful Dreams Colorful Smiles from Nijigasaki yet? That intro along with All My Life and Soul on Display all are the BEST INTROS EVER! You should give that song, along with Singing Dreaming Now a try.

[@davenotstaine5646]

The car detail is probably my favorite part about 7

[@RomnysGonzalez]

I still remember the 1st time me and my brother saw GT1. I was like 5 y/o. Was late 1998. My brother was 7 y/o. We were shocked. We couldn't believe a game like this could exist with so much content. So many cars, so many races, so many tracks. I was never into cars, but as a kid i lost my mind like my brother and were looking at each other screaming with every thing we discovered. I watched my brother play for hours and hours and hours and never turning off the PS1. Watching him play at 4am non stop before going to school. We were talking non stop about GT and what we would do and how we switched places for endurance races. He begging me to take his places. Now GT2 what was changed us. We bonded with GT2 and we are 2 different person. We are brother, but our personality are like north and south, but GT2 brought us together into a following a single goal. We went even more ham and crazy when we got Gran Turismo 2 and saw that was GT1, BUT BETTER LOOKING WITH MORE CONTENT?!. OMG we destroyed our CD from playing it so much

[@purwantiallan5089]

2023, now i am 25 years old...

[@yournightmare9999]

​@@purwantiallan5089so you still young fart dont existing on GT 1 era

[@Omahamaho]

played countless hours of this as a kid, I remember it feeling like I had actually purchased a NSX when I could finally afford it in game great video

[@DmytroBogdan]

I believe NFS MW came out in 2005, probably best year for racing games. Also a very well made video

[@gabrielni9185]

Damn GT4's opening! I was listening to the video and after the iconic menu sound at 19:57 the OPera got me... the mixture between the music and nostalgia just shivers me. Nice video BTW!!

[@brokensmilephoto]

I feel you missed one aspect of GT experience. The movies. Be it the opening movie, or a ending movie, GT always paid amazing tributes to motorsports and cars with a passionate video paired with sometimes a bold musical choice. (Like the GT4 transition from Opera to Van Halen's Panama)

[@Cez-ario]

I have to point out a small thing about the gt sport "sport mode" The races had a daily rotation at launch but this was changed to a weekly rotation at the update 1.23 (I looked on google to give the exact date) on July 2018 and it remained that way until the release of GT7 in 2022, where the weekly races where changed to be monthly this time

[@Fastminer07]

Ah ok, I missed that in my research because I didn't play GT sport at launch, and only found stuff about sport mode from at launch and now, so I missed that it was changed to weekly.

[@Eatinbritches]

It's gone back to having weekly races now. Both campaign races and sport mode time attacks.

[@jordanprice9285]

IMO, We peaked as a society in 1999-2004. I'm completely convinced. Movies, Music, Cars, and Car games alike.

[@drunkenhearted7256]

I don’t know music was pretty mid back then

[@Fastminer07]

That era's probably when the area I grew up in was making it's best music, so I'm inclined to agree

[@Noxerpunk]

​@@drunkenhearted7256 pretty "mid" compared to the shit topping charts nowadays? Where I can't even tell the distinction between different singers because all of them makes the same shit? No thanks I'll stick to my 1990s~2000s playlist

[@alfyb4512]

Agreed. Heck, I myself pretty much peaked in about 2000…

[@JudeLawKingKlaus]

We got Meteors, we good😄

[@MC-bh8ph]

Its so sad that so many people bought gt7, it taught them that they can charge full price for a temporary online only rental

[@Heavysweating]

GT7's biggest issue is the online only "feature", I'm surprised it didn't even get brought up.

[@HankBaxter]

Thank you! 27:50 That damn stuck camera, ruining any sense of movement the car has. How people don't notice this game-breaking issue is beyond me, and is one reason I yawn while playing or watching any GT after 5. GT4 still has some movement, though, which prevented it from being immersion ruining.

[@KendrickLamarfan123]

Your videos are fantastic. Your one of the first KZbinrs that makes video essays in a more fun way with more personality! Keep it up!

[@MemesbroOnScratch]

I think Gran Turismo had an impact on the genre from it's inception, even on established racers before it. Before Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer was an arcade racer with very arcadey controls. After GT's release, in 1998, Namco made Ridge Racer Type 4. The key difference to the other Ridge Racer games was how similar Type 4 was to Gran Turismo it was in terms of content and gameplay. Type 4 had 8 tracks, 8 arcade exclusive cars, 80 distinct cars, each with 4 variants depending on the team you choose, and 1 secret car after unlocking every variant of the 80 cars, adding up to 329 cars with different mechanics!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Gran Turismo got a massive impact like Nijigasaki High School Idol Club.

[@MemesbroOnScratch]

what the actual...

[@De_kaid]

The physics of rrt4 were still incredibly arcadey, the only things that changed with 4 was the music and presentation, not the content and gameplay. It also isn't 80 distinct cars, never really counted the actual number myself but it's probably around 40-50 as theres multiple cars that are just upgraded variants with no visual changes. It also never changed ridge racer as a whole, look at the entries after.

[@IdiotRace]

@@De_kaid It's kinda funny because R4 coming out after Gran Turismo really made me not like R4. Which is stupid because R4 was obviously a good game, but GT being full of real cars that drove realistically (for the time) made teenage me (somehow more stupid than old me) not enjoy it. Which is dumb because I've got massive nostalgia for all the ridge racer games up until then. Even then R4's intro is like Peak FMV Intro

[@MemesbroOnScratch]

But it WAS the best in the series

[@clydefrog-fourfourzero8621]

WOW! That was a great flashback! I started playing the GT series on PlayStation 1 with my little brother and neighbors in the 1990's! I just got GT 7 a week ago for some nostalgia! I love the GT series, but after a long break of being a father, this is way more difficult than I remembered! I used to blow everyone away, and had my cars so fine tuned! Looks like I have a lot of work ahead. My favorite GT games were 3 & 4. I didn't play 5-6. Nice video man! GJ^^

[@ericthedumbmet4699]

The video title is “The Slow Deterioration of Gran Turismo” but he’s basically praising every single title except 7. The title indicated that the franchise fell off in some way not just having one bad game. He should change his title to simply “Gran Turismo Retrospect”.

[@chrislabedzski9076]

The main problem is that racing games has become less and less popular over time in favor of first person shooter games, , nobody even talks about racing games where im from, just always fortnight or apex ect

[@JayZee-lo8qy]

Really??? Need for Speed is always a top selling game year in year out, Forza Horizon is legit one of Microsoft’s best sellers on the Xbox and regularly given as the only reason someone bought an Xbox for as far as exclusive games go. Racing games are always popular

[@Fastminer07]

@JayZee-lo8qy I give you Forza, but Need for Speed? They're not, not selling, but it's nothing like either GT or Forza, or like classic NFS, and outside of the racing community, Racing games have never been less relevant.

[@IPlayedGd]

​@@JayZee-lo8qyWell assetto corsa with mods (on pc obv) Is literally fun to play!

[@theryanthomas]

Unreal production mate. What a class video.

[@ch_dn]

This was a great watch. I really appreciate the amount of work you put in. Awesome job!

[@GT7-wonky]

Well, what a gem of a channel this is! I haven't even finished watching this one yet and must to say a fab sincere hello from QLD Australia. Perfect video here guys and thank you! i will save to donate when i can as this channel went straight to my subscribed favourites.. until then its a very happy watching from me and thx to all the creators you mentioned 🇦🇺👍🏁

[@popgoestheammo]

In my opinion, I like gt7 because it teaches a lot about car culture, from the roots of the 350z to the upbringing of the Chiron and how global events sparked Japanese compact cars. The cafe teaches me a lot of interesting details about almost all of the cars, and I love it. Gt7 isn’t an ode to racing, but car culture as a whole, each line of code dedicated to teaching you more and more about said culture.

[@Fastminer07]

I'd say more car artistry and history than culture per se, because car culture is more about people, events and trends than specific cars or car histories.

[@popgoestheammo]

@@Fastminer07 You are correct, but still, this game is an eye opener

[@Downlup]

The quality of these is unmatched.

[@RunEmDownTony]

This video almost made me cry bro. Even though all the GT games weren't always great you can see and tell the passion behind the game from the creators. Yes there were too many license test and yes some things was just too long but that's just because the passion and the build up was there and you had too appreciate it, the love that went into GT was impeccable! The other thing that almost brought me too tears is the memory of the first GT which brought back the many memories of the better and pleasant days, my childhood. All kinds of memories came rushing back too me, those days are so much better than these days where today you can hardly go outside without some type of violence, or disaster, disease, or mass shooting being reported. I'd give just about anything to return to those days. This is why instead of complaining which is your right, but you should appreciate what you have when you have it and take advantage of it because when gone it will never be the same.

[@euphoriaggaminghd]

Nostalgia is speaking to you heavily, the 90s was probably the most hard and dangerous decade since world war 2

[@FormulaZyn]

Forza is better

[@FormulaZyn]

@@euphoriaggaminghdno it wasn’t

[@Fastminer07]

Pewis, FM8 is way behind GT7 is basically every way.

[@FormulaZyn]

@@Fastminer07 cry

[@MuscleCarLover]

My first game in the series was GT2 and I'd happily replay any of them up to and including GT6. After that they kinda lost me. I hoped GT7 would be something other than what it became and I'm now at a point where a GT8 would not be pre-ordered. My introduction to the community was also with GT6 and yeah, really chill group of people. The one time I encountered a corner cutter, the entire field ganged up on them in response, forcing them to be, I think it was second to last. Also, GT6 cruise lobbies, especially the ones I hosted pretty much daily at Sierra were fucking awesome. Seeing the variety of cars driven by countless different people, group cruises around the lake and some impromptu sprint races was definitely a highlight of that game for me

[@HTXrios]

GT4 and FM3 where the prime of each series, doesn’t mean that the newer games suck but they aren’t impressive for the time like those where back then

[@TallTapper]

based fm3 enjoyer

[@jimzucker]

i played gt1 at the time. I was a teen. That stuff at the time was the freaking future. It was hard to wrap your mind around. We were children in the 80s so we knew games as first nintendo, amigas and so on. The first ps and GT1 was miles ahead anything. was all any kid liking cars desired to play with

[@tomaac]

Paul Mccartney quote was the best part

[@Dice-Head]

Exceptional video as always. I was always a Forza Kid, but I loved seeing history of GT regardless.

[@ScrapKing73]

My complaint with GT games is how online support for them gets turned off. I can still play online on most PC and lots of Xbox 360 racing/driving games, so it doesn’t have to be that way.

[@ZortegaR171]

I used the opening music of GT4 exactly the way you have for this video as my wedding entry music. I got goosebumps at 20:06 timestamp listening to my wedding song wow.

[@C_861]

Regarding the comunity , i dont play online that much but i remember one race i had on an open loby with a random dude who was super nice , the race was at monza and i spun at the exit of the first chicane and the guy waited for me to get back on the track . And the race itself was very exiting we kept massibg eachother at the end he got the win but that was a realy fun race

[@lecgaming2781]

Such a great video, would love you to continue it as a series for other racing games :)

[@Fastminer07]

I sort of already have for the Forza Horizon and Colin McRae Rally/DiRT games, but there are other games I plan to cover similarly to this

[@coilstrike]

you should do burnout@@Fastminer07

[@GT_Meria]

​​@@Fastminer07To finally end covering the most popular series maybe it's time for Need For Speed?

[@Fastminer07]

Nah, I'm gonna hold off on NFS for a while, It's gonna be a long one, so I wanna make sure I ready for it

[@GT_Meria]

@@Fastminer07 understandable, it's a very long and tough theme

[@mattburkey]

This video resonated with me in almost every aspect, having followed the GT series since it's PS1 beginnings. The only point I'd want to add about GT7 is it's fully implemented VR gameplay which is seamless between flat and VR. Switching modes is as simple as putting on and taking off the headset, even in the middle of a race. This seamless implementation and the general quality of the VR experience with a wheel sets the gold standard for console VR. The stereoscopic mode and head tracking (with the camera) on GT5&6 were a great novelty for the 5 people on the planet that had 3DTV's, as it helped with judging distances to corners, and the limited VR experience in GT Sport was a taste of what was to come, however, GT7 is a fully realised immersive racing experience. I miss many aspects of GT3/4's gameplay and many of the classic tracks, but going back to those just isn't the same now VR gameplay is a thing. I admire Polyphony for trying new things and experimenting with the latest technologies. The steering wheel support and stereoscopic rendering for example paving the way for the later VR capabilities and the fact these technologies weren't just a gimmick, they actually improved the experience for those with the appropriate equipment.

[@DEPORTKYLE]

VR doesn't mean the game is good that has nothing to do with it

[@mattburkey]

@@DEPORTKYLE True, all the faults with the series are still faults with the series. For me personally, it peaked at GT4. I'm just saying that despite all the faults of the main game, they actually implemented the technology exceptionally well. I admire their innovation, even though the series has been losing much of what I enjoyed about it. Need those 24hr races back Polyphony!

[@strongfp]

I really don't get the obsession with GT4... I have been playing since GT1 and back in the day everyone and their grandma played gt3 and longed for one and only aspect, to have a stable, reliable, GT game that could be transfered to the online world where the real fun and actual challenge would begin. GT4 when it came out wasn't even that popular since it came out during the PS3 release, it was full of bugs, I had to send two copies back to PD for faulty disc. It felt more like a game to jhat license and copyright certain aspects of racing Sims to lay the ground work for GT5 and beyond, while attempting to make the GT3 everyone wanted. It was a 3 / 4 finished game.

[@NicotineRosberg]

I was fortunate enough to have a plasma tv back in the day while most ppl still had their CRTs When I first played GT4 at 1080i. It gave me such a shock at the time. It was best looking game I ever seen at the time

[@vultureguy33]

Great retrospective, I've been playing Gran Turismo since the original. One note on GT6, I thought the lighting/shadows were a vast improvement over 5.

[@Fastminer07]

I couldn't really tell, because having played them on an emulator in this video, GT6 ran a lot worse, and usually only ran at 720p, while GT5 would run fine all the way up to my 1440p

[@mandrakegti]

Hands down, Gran Turismo 2 is not only the best Gran Turismo, but it's the best racing game of all time imo. Yeah, it's outdated in technical terms like graphics and physics, but damn, i've never had so much fun and spent so many hours on another racing game. The atmosphere is unique... It was the right game for the right time. The only racing game that came closer to it was Gran Turismo 4. And today i'm so happy to see fans modding Gran Turismo 2 with cut content, fixes and even new cars, this is really nice!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Gran Turismo 1 to 4 are best RACING GAMES ever. Along with F1 2020 and 2021.

[@blackhydra897]

Least terrible racing game fan opinion.Burnout Paradise is peak.

[@scijthe]

​@@blackhydra897I know I'm replying to this sort of late, but I miss Burnout Paradise, the community was rather chill despite the premise of the game being wrecking each other purposefully lol

[@Bossfightmedia]

​@@blackhydra897Actually 3 is Superior in Terms of Atmosphere IMO. But Paradise was amazing thats true

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

​@@Bossfightmedia3 IS Burnout

[@corey2232]

GT3 is my favorite racing game of all time. Even though I've become more of a Forza guy over the years, GT3 will always be #1 due to how it shaped my view of racing sims.

[@kill3rbyysight]

latest forza motorsport getting alot of Ls though

[@corey2232]

@kill3rbyysight What do you mean? The only issue I've run into was trying to adjust settings in-game, and it somehow making performance worse. I had to restart to fix it, but otherwise no issue

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Swear u said GTA 3

[@AppleTaco]

I started with GT Sport after all the important updates and it was an amazing experience . Using a wheel and the graphics/attention to detail is something Ill never forget. Now Im casually playing GT7 and with all the negative details its already a great racing and funny experience. Great franchise coming from a Rally fan (a racing genre with not much love in videogames)

[@raza.y]

I fried my PS2 slim leaving Gran Turismo 4 running on 24hr race in bspec mode. Poured in so many hours in so many different parts of the game. I can't forget this game it was so ahead of its time.

[@KingdomTwelve]

46:58 A viewer was like hey, did you know you were in this video? I go nope. Dude ripped my video, posted my face, and muted me. its only 15 seconds but damn no shout-out? Got 4 others tagged but went to my channel, recorded what you needed and then no credit. It's just the Hagerty dealer and a race playlist... Odd to just record someone else's content versus turning on the game to get it.

[@Fastminer07]

Sorry about that, I really should start putting direct credit for any external clips I use. For that clip specifically, I used your footage because you were one of Creators drawing attention to the Overpriced cars and Race payouts right after the game released, although the gameplay itself I probably could have got myself, and the 4 other creators tagged in the video were people I directly contacted and interviewed for sections of the video.

[@TeamCGS2005]

Thanks for the video! Personally I think the main reason is due to the drop in popularity of racing games in general. When I was a kid I would say that the genre of game that I tended to play were RPGs and racing games however whilst I still do play RPGs (last was Starfield and Baldur's Gate 3), I haven't touched a racing game serious in over 10 years and that feeling is reciprocated by a lot of people I know and elsewhere. Racing games just don't have the allure anymore unfortunately.

[@tourmaline07]

I reckon most of that is because outside of sim games like Assetto Corsa , iracing , Project Cars there seems to be a real lack of innovation. There's too much rehashing , and also possibly too much focus on realism/making real cars in games. I'd like to see something like Ridge Racer and Wipeout (I have tried Redout but it's nowhere near interesting enough) remastered and built in a modern engine.

[@DanniV8]

I wonder if you asked older people than those youtubers what the best GT game was, if the answers would still be GT4 or not. For me, GT2 was the best but that's probably because when it came out I was 11 so I played it a lot, and when GT4 came out I already had my driver's license and busy with chasing other stuff, so I didn't really play video games a lot. GT4 was the last game in the series I played until I got back into it during Covid.

[@ginger_bred_manz]

The feeling of disappointment when playing GT Sport at launch can't be compared to anything I've ever experienced. And it is no doubt the reason that I'm now on PC

[@SeazonHDx]

20:04 man oh man.. i still have GT3 and 4 on PS2.. legendary thanks for the video.

[@Rafagafanhotobra]

One great thing that made GT4 stand out from previous entries, for me, was how PD used their car list really well and the game became a little more global and diverse. Just like GT2, almost every brand had a model-specific championship, but now used cars could also be european or even american, not only japanese. Brands other than the Japanese ones were very present, but they took a greater part of the stage and were given much more deserved attention. And this goes for the courses, too. They could've pretty much focused only on original tracks and the japanese ones, but they gave us a beautiful tour around the world, with special events or either the Nurburging (with all of its BMW adds and everything). It was the first GT that did the global history and presence of the automobile with class and loads of style.

[@priorwitness]

Been playing GT since the first one on Playstation and have played most of them. I didn't get the PSP one and I stayed away from Sport when I heard it was more online focused. For me GT2 will always be the best. I had a blast with the PS2 versions as well as the first, but GT2 just hit the right spot in terms of the cars, physics, progression, tuning, and the music. Fast forward to 7 and I have a love/hate relationship with it. It is a great game when you're on the track. It was obviously made with the PS5 controller in mind. The only other racing game that comes close in terms of feel is F1 23. The graphics scream next Gen as well. But other than that it's tough to keep playing. That constant push to the Café is really annoying. The roulette wheel always lands on the worst prize and gets me maybe $5k credits each time. I can't sell my cars. This push to collect all the cars is dumb too. For me I just want a small handful of cars that I can max out in tuning and win all the championships with them. That's what is fun for me which is not what GT7 wants you to do. You can tell it wants you to spend real cash to get more cars and that just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. After watching this I fired up GT2 again and I have to say I'll be playing that for a while in place of GT7. Grand Turismo sort of lost its way in the PS3 era as you started to see this push towards online events opposed to the single player experience. The greatest GT games are from the PS1 and PS2 era hands down.

[@JC-jj1xm]

Agreed. While graphics have always been a staple in gaming, and more so in immersive games like racing, I’ll take GT2 over GT4 for a number of reasons, but most of all, how far they pushed a PS1 titled game. Over 650 cars, the race tracks, and (for the U.S.) the soundtrack was perfect. GT4 took us to new heights, but I can honestly say they may have even went a tad overboard with things (Mercedes at Nurburgring has still not been beaten by me yet 😖) having 100+ Skylines, or roughly 1/7 of the games cars, and the lack of drag racing or internet gaming, something that was still in its infancy, but considering SOCOM had pretty good success from it, I was a bit shocked. I stepped away from GT5/6 instead opting for Xbox, and while Forza felt Arcady, it was more user friendly, and the livery editor was mind blowing. GT Sport pulled me back in, and I can absolutely say it was a flop in terms of what GT meant to me. A handful of tracks, sub-par car list, and the fact it forces you to be online to properly play it, how are we going to be able to enjoy it when the servers get shut off at some point in time? GT2 was Polyphony saying “people liked our game, let’s see how far we can push the PS1 abilities…… unlike now where they say “Here’s our game, now give us lore money.” They lost themselves somewhere 😢

[@priorwitness]

@@JC-jj1xm 💯 agreed! You hit the nail right on the head with all of these points.

[@robertsavello4120]

"GT7 isn't a bad racing game, just a bad Gran Turismo Game." Yes. I can't agree more. That's the perfect way to say it.

[@nathanthegreathan6464]

As someone who grew up on arcade racers like Mario Kart 64, Burnout, and NFS: MW it’s been a real pleasure getting into GT for the first time with GT7. There aren’t nearly enough explosions, but I can endure that by appreciating how well the physics engine works and driving some of my favorite cars. Great video!! Given that I started with GT7, it really puts it in perspective for me.

[@DennisTheZZZ]

Gran Turismo is an incredible racing game franchise. It also made me love many underappreciated cars I‘ve never heard of before (one of my favorites is the TVR Griffith 500 which was in every GT game until GT6) My absolute go-to game would also be GT4. There is an incredible amount of how you can play the game (not doing license tests - only b-spec instead, not using Japanese cars, only using used cars, only using street legal cars…) and each time you get a new experience. There are flaws in it, but which game doesn‘t? Gran Turismo 4 is in my opinion as close to perfection as you can get.

[@MultiVeeta]

It stopped being an incredible franchise after GT4.

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

I still have an original copy of GT1, which was my first racing game. I passed on 2 and 3, but 4 was the first videogame I bought with my own money. I got the XL Edition of 5, 6, Sport, and 7. I found a copy of 3 at a retro games store near me a few months ago. Now I'm just trying to track down 2 to complete my Gran Turismo collection.

[@ianvincent5069]

What I will say for Gran Turismo 5 and 6 for that matter is I had a 3dtv at the time and it was such a novelty to be able to play a 3d game the tech has been phased out again as it didn't take off but i really enjoyed it

[@luxdalet]

When I used to have more time, I loved playing GT5 online. So much fun in finding custom lobbies and making friends in several communities who had same driving style as I. Then GT6 came and they instantly pulled the plug on the online for GT5. When I finally bought GT6, no one was playing it... Years later I finally got GT Sport. Had a few fun races, but mostly ending in middle of the race... until I played an awesome race, was first place until last lap, when someone rammed me from the side rear. I, not the rammer, got penalized and finished in last... Now GT7 is an online only game as service... Am not bothering to buy it. Moved on to Assetto Corsa on PC for casual laps when I have free time. Fantastic video! Loved the presentation and work done!

[@96SN95]

The lack of cars is what killed it for me. When you have 47 civics, 30 miatas and 33 skylines, no sorry you don't have a game with OvEr oNe HuNdRed CaRs, you have a game with 3 cars. 3. Different versions and years sure but still just 3 cars. Then I put actual GT racing on the TV, see a Mustang leading the charge with a Cadillac in close pursuit and not a single honda civic in sight, I lose interest.

[@peakjuggler]

top notch video once again! don't know if i've ever felt the emplemon influence as hard as i did before, i also like you continuing the thumbnail tradition that you started with NFS. despite my racing game obsession, ive only played GT3 on my old ps2 many years ago. the editing style continues to get exponentially better and better, and the fact you got to talk to multiple large creators about their experiences of the GT series is impressive! youtube didnt notify me about this one, but its another great video, not a single miss in your catalogue, and i can't wait to see your content grow and get even better from here.

[@bruuhpods3926]

Great video about Gran Turismo’s history. GT5 is the one i started and i liked it even though it has its moments its still enjoyable to play.

[@GunShark0]

I think GT5 was a perfect blend of new and old game design. I had played GT at friends' houses growing up but never owned a GT game until 5. Maybe it holds a special spot for me because of that, but in my opinion, it was such a great game.

[@danoV1c]

Great video, Gran Turismo even at its lowest is still a good game even if flawed and always pushes the current generation PlayStation hardware to it's absolute limits as for GT7 it could've been the best game in the series if they didn't fumble the bag with the single player progression and made the AI actually good, cause from my play time the core gameplay dare I say is the best in the series, the handling is fantastic and we have a decent enough choice of cars too in extraordinary detail

[@chriscollins550]

What put me of, so I haven't played it, is the game is to much about online racing. I have no interest in that. But if it had a good single player mode like the old game's then I would buy it.

[@fikridroid]

Same honestly, somehow with GT7's focus on graphics over almost everything else I can't help but see it as the literal PS5 tech demo than actual Gran Turismo, let alone an actual racing game

[@kill3rbyysight]

it's a great game.. i enjoy it s lot.. now buying psvr2 especially for gt7

[@user-hr6bn1vv2j]

Youre living the dream Mr GTX! You so deserve it. I enjoy watching you. Good luck and I hope you do well .

[@Fastminer07]

What?

[@edwardc4534]

I might be like 10 months late but that's fine I guess. :D First I wanna start out and commend you for the amount of effort you put into this video and I really appreciate it as a (old) new racer to GT. What I mean by that is that I never had the opportunity to play these games on the ps1, 2 or 3 (i could emulate i know I just haven't, yet). The first Gran Turismo i played was actually on PSP. My dad got me the console and the game when I was a kid. I enjoyed it, but was a stupid kid and didn't really understand how to play it properly. Now when I am a little older I got myself a PS5 two years back and decided I needed to try out gt7 due to my passion for racing and cars in general. I can truly say that GT7 is one of my favorite games of all time due to it's huge amount of modification and tuning options. There's just something so nice about buying a used car in the game and tuning it, making it to either just a looker or a straight up rocket, or why not both :D. I can spend hours just testing out different setups and tunes for drifting and all types of races and just be constantly entertained. GT7 has brought immense joy to my life, and I will always love it for that. I do also understand your differing opinion to mine, though I haven't really played the older games in any meaningful amount, I can really understand the points you are making and I do respect them. I do not really agree with all of them, but that's okay. This video was really interesting for me as an, as I like to describe it, old new player to the franchise. Amazing job bro, you earned yourself a new sub. :)

[@adammclaughlin845]

I was shocked how bland and passionless GT7 is. I don't want a woman patronising me about cars (my lifelong hobby) or how to play a game's seventh main installment, I don't want to sit drinking coffee or collect shitty cars I'll never use, I don't want a succession of random faces without voice acting, I just want it to be Gran Turismo: you and the car with no distractions. But they gave us a forced classical music minigame...

[@ST-mn6nw]

Calling gt7 passionless lol you sound like you never played the game at all

[@geoprancer]

@@ST-mn6nwIf you compare GT7 to ANY other GT game, it’s not just passionless, but lifeless. You don’t understand, Polyphony took away the TRUE GT career and replaced it with menu books, added online racing, and gave us an unfinished game. It’s bad. Even tho I haven’t played any GT game older than GT6, it’s super lifeless. I recommend you to watch Rofflewaffle’s videos on it.

[@dillweedwtf]

Haha gamer moment "I don't want a woman..."

[@andrewverrett568]

​@geoprancer taking someone's else's opinion on it without having played any of the but 6 and 7 is wild my guy. Why don't you go play gt3 ( what I feel is the best of the series) or any of the older ones to develop your own opinion. You just spit out someone else's opinion and pass it on as the be all end all fact. Do experience it yourself and form your own though, stop being a mindless follower.

[@GHGxJonnyxGHG]

13:08 made me relive my childhood by re-watching the (US) intro to this game, with ''My Favorite Game'' by the Cardigans as the song. I grew up playing the FM series as I grew older, but that intro... left an impression on me for life, hands down one of my favorite intros ever

[@Tacko14]

My main grind with gt7 is not the money. Not even the lack of single player content, although that’s a solid runner up. It’s that the AI still aren’t up there. You start at the back, the antagonist starts on pole, and you have to have an OP car to win. They don’t even fight back when you get up there. A procession. The only challenge is to find the lowest underdog that’ll still win. Sometimes that’s a car that is truly an underdog, sometimes you can only take the true OP. After that, just ignore all other cars. With all the modern CPU’s, I’d expect better. But it hasn’t really changed much since when we raced using the cursor buttons.

[@markoulton3342]

For me, the lame AI that GT has is my single biggest complaint that spans the entire series. I also hate the fact that to win many of these , so called "races", you had to run a near perfect race catching your opposition at just the right places to clear them and not cost you time. So dive bombing and using 8 wheels to corner was basically necessary. So after training the player base in this style of racing, Polyphony now expects players to use proper racing etiquette when in multiplayer. Yeah right! While the penalty system put in play sometimes works as intended, players still learn how to cheese it to cheat. Not enough consequences for racing dirty

[@psyhodelik]

Good video !

[@alexanderschilke]

Thanks for using Casiopeas music, I love it

[@Granulum]

The simple reason for the downfall of GT comes down to Kazunori's ego, pretentiousness and arrogance. He doesn't care about OG GT players, he just uses GT as a polygon for his personal interests. It started with GT5 with so much focus on pretentious details rather than a proper SP campaign. Nobody cares about the stitches in the back seat of each car model, if you ask any GT fan he would rather have those devs resources spent on SP events, AI or something. When Kaz developed a passion for photography it was heavily reflected in the GT games. Nobody cares about that. This is not what made GT great. Kazunori was very humble in the beginning because the fate of GT was uncertain. In GT1 they really went the extra mile to please the fans by developing the arcade mode and even a whole new menu and dealership music in EU/US versions (I much prefer it to the jazzy themes of the later games). Compare this approach to today's arrogance in pricing classic cars in such a way you can barely afford one after completing all the events in the game. He can afford such arrogance due to GT fanbase that was built around OG GT games. He is literally mocking his fans as he wants to arrogantly educate them about the historical value of these cars. It has nothing to do with realism, it's all about being pretentious since other time realism is suppressed when it would benefit the player. Kaz now enjoys the attention and the importance GT has in terms of esports so he arrogantly pushes that on GT fans who just want the OG campaign. Regarding the GT7, despite it being promoted as the return to the OG GT I was very skeptical. When I saw that players who buy some special edition of GT7 get millions of ingame credits and some cars it was obvious that there will be no OG SP campaign since things like this would immediately destroy the whole premise on which the rags-to-riches approach of the original games are based on. This was writing on the wall that we were just going back to mindlessly collecting cars. OG GT fans want: Rags-to-riches SP campaign - polished and competitive with hundreds of events. This means that the SP campaign is tested to infinity to make sure there is a slow and gradual progression. The beauty of GT is in the fact that after a few races you can afford a new muffler for your 1992 Civic, not in the fact that you drive a 600 HP car 1h into the game or that you have 5 new cars after a few events. Real driving simulator - best in class physics like what was introduced in GT1. GT should be the pinnacle of realistic driving and the players who would find that too challenging should be able to select a more forgiving and arcadey driving model. Contemporary GT driving model is dumbed down from the start (thus unable to compete with PC simulators and giving up on its "real driving simulator" pledge) so it offers the opposite of what it promotes in order to be more inviting to the more casual players. You can have both set of players but the starting premise should be based on the best possible simulation that the current hardware can offer with the options to dial it back so a wider range of players can enjoy the game. The arcade model should be based on the simulation model but more fun and forgiving and players that use it should not be penalized compared to simulation preferring players (any such penalizations or restrictions should be used only in MP to ensure a fair race for all). Damage - back when Kaz actually cared for GT to be the best driving game out there he introduced visual damage in GT5 that was best in the class, even better than what we have today, 2 console generations later. Introducing complex visual and mechanical damage would offer a whole new dimension to the driving (racing) and would significantly contribute to more exciting and immersive gameplay. What OG GT fans don't want: Shoveling esports down our throats - SP will always trump MP in GT because 95% of players are average thus we cannot dominate in MP events. The feeling of satisfaction comes from completing the events that are challenging but doable. We can only dominate in SP and we need this feeling of accomplishment. Games as service - introducing new events all the time is mostly not compatible with rags-to-riches SP campaign as it loses the delicate progression balance. We want to be able to finish the game 100% and buy a new game in a few years (with new game having significant improvments over the previous game). Scapes and endless Photomode options - there is like a single digit % of people obsessing about this so it's OK to offer something like this but don't waste too much dev time on that. I don't see GT changing in any significant way until Kaz is running the show. The guy is so out-of-touch with GT fans it is ridiculous. It would be better that future GT games are directed by somebody that grew up with the original games than by Kaz himself, at this point I am sure he is a lost cause and our best chance of getting the OG GT back is by removing him from PD entirely. Addendum: I was a 10 year old kid in '98 when (PAL) GT1 was released and I got it the same year. I much prefer the aesthetics and the atmosphere of GT1 to GT2 (or any other GT for that matter). There is something special about the Western release of GT1. The menu music from the car dealerships, the serious and sort of a industrial vibe combined with 90s aesthetics, I was floored as a kid! I get that GT2 is content wise better in every way but GT1 was a bigger leap in advancing the racing genre and will always be my fav.

[@noleyestoad4477]

The reason early GTs were so great is because the economy and progression wasnt built around pushing players to buy micro transactions! greed is ruining alot of great franchises!

[@KareemEmotion]

I'm yet to get into the Gran Turismo series. The funny thing is, I used to own both a Playstation 1 and 2. But I never owned any of the GT games. Even if I did, I'll end up starting from the beginning multiple times because I've never owned a memory card in my childhood.

[@WorldWar546]

GT5 was my 1st GT and I loved it for the car list (loved the Tacoma X-Runner had it fully modified and it would be put up against Bugatti Veyron in arcade mode) miss that game and had a lot of fun with it and GT6

[@dasstig5274]

I enjoyed the year transitions between the games with the menu sounds from the respective game in the video, that was a neat small detail.

[@Fastminer07]

That took far longer than it should have for what it is, but I'm glad I got it to look and sound right

[@enno3456]

In GT6 the Sierra Time Rally was my favorite. It had an arcade feel to it. Trying to get to the finish line without crashing and avoiding sunday drivers was kind of annoying but still fun.😂 Also the Mission on the Moon was weird but charming. All other GT Games that came before are all classics. GT4 was my first, then i checked out where everything started on the ps1, later in the 2010's GT5 and GT6. No matter wich system, they are all great.

[@jayaybe1]

Wow, so much work gone into this. Great writing, editing and presentation ( though it would have been nice to see some 1st person cockpit view instead of the awful 3rd person camera ). Good luck with the channel .

[@current3109]

GT6 marked the downfall of Gran Turismo for me. I never understood why Polygon released a new GT game when we already had GT5, a widely favored game by the player base. Polygon should’ve continued to expand on GT5 with updates instead of taking it offline.

[@KeyBrosUK]

Really great video man. Thorough, informative and most importantly… Nostalgic asf!!!

[@slowpoke1953]

Man that Casiopea sound track is sooo good.

[@Fastminer07]

I know right

[@Tacko14]

I think gt sport was the best so far. Suddenly I felt part of a community. 6 was better online for making friends, but the liveries, decals and scapes… wow! Like the late 60s hippies, everyone had their own thing going on. Handling was waaayyy better too. We got ratings for online, which made me strive. And, thanks to the lockdowns, youtube soared. Okay, that was coincidental. But it happened nonetheless. Point is, it wasn’t just about racing but about belonging as well. And now, it’s gone again. Can’t blame the game for that. I see posters around here, saying ‘we can’t go back to the old normal, because that was the problem to begin with’. Didn’t like that at first, a bit of a wise ass statement, but I eventually agreed.

[@EximiusDux]

I feel as if i'm on the opposite side of you. To me it seems as if games deteriorate and become worse from the very first moment they shift away from singleplayer experiences towards "online communities" and "online multiplayer". Games used to be amazing singleplayer experiences which are now diluted, weakened, boring things to accommodate for that (multiplayer stuff).

[@kierann0]

I really like GT7, really, I spent hours having fun doing custom races and collecting cars, but I'm aware of all the problems this game has... But I still love it. I have hope that maybe, in a few more future updates, this game will be really good. Because I can't play any other sim race than Gran Turismo

[@ShinobiShadow777]

Pretty much I feel about it. Been playing since GT1 and I'm still digging GT7 as well, despite it's shortcomings. I'm more than willing to keep faith alive.

[@Secretlyanothername]

I feel like most people complaining about it just want an arcade game, with easy wins and instant access to cars. It's not meant to be a weekender.

[@ShinobiShadow777]

@@Secretlyanothername That's really what it sounds like. Horizon has ruined things for people in a way.