Fat Bike Vs Plus Bike - What's The Difference?

[@jerryreaume5025]

Please come to Canada and test out fat bikes in the snow,they are purpose built for just that and they truly shine in that environment!

[@miamoben]

In cycling everything is a trade off. You have to pick what's best for the terrain you ride

[@larseiriknilsen4614]

This is like the Top Gear for bikers... "Whats the best?" "we have no clue and cant conclude on anything, but it was good fun trying the new model!"

[@TAZ95C4]

Spot on lol

[@dos.1277]

I couldn't help but smile while Neil was on his fat bike. They look so happy together

[@Toejamscruff]

This video shows just how great the camera work and editing is at GMBN! Unbelievable shots! Truly great. Only enhances an already great presentation.

[@lewisramey3441]

Bill Crosby how did they show a slow motion shot and a regular speed shot side by side?!

[@dubbleflip]

A couple of years I went to a bike shop to buy some sealant and they had the first stumpjumper 6fattie (27.5x3.0) for sale. I thought it looked funny but took it for s spin. came back and was like "shut up and take my money... " still one of the most fun bikes I ever owned. Only for pure technical downhill I ride something else.

[@miloskozar9323]

3:24+ commentary in normal motion with showing the bike in slow motion --> nice work!

[@rlefeve]

I love my Trek Farly 9.8 with 27.5 x 80mm wide rims. I am currently running 3.8" wide tires, but have the 4.5" on order.

[@mithileshthakur6513]

Do you get it from Amazon ??

[@kawaspresso3228]

So Scott is a Scot riding a Scott ?

[@gmbn]

+Kawaspresso and he's from Scotland!

[@TheUltimateMw2Kid]

That's what he said lol

[@tibetkl]

@@TheUltimateMw2Kid no

[@pietergeerse5522]

Tibet Kılıç yes

[@sepg5084]

@@tibetkl Scot = from Scotland

[@PaulFirmin]

I love how you guys did the picture in picture talk/slow mo thing.

[@seagulls4life12]

Scotty, I'm liking the power wheelies out of the berms. Nice riding style

[@PersonalFitness3]

This was a great video!! Very informative and the special effects were really cool. I just bought a 27.5" mountain bike and I really like it a lot. Thanks for the information on the Fat and Plus bikes.

[@deecarter1059]

Why don't you swap bikes and compare?

[@utahjohn5480]

where are your "local trails"? Always been curious where you guys are filming....

[@danielm-r4864]

+Utah John This vid is at FoD

[@utahjohn5480]

+Daniel Mason-Rheinschmiedt I don't even know what country that is, let alone what FoD is.....

[@danielm-r4864]

+Utah John Forest of Dean, England

[@utahjohn5480]

+Daniel Mason-Rheinschmiedt TYVM

[@gmbn]

+Utah John We film mostly around the South West of the UK, this is the Forest of Dean, but we regularly film around Bristol, South Wales and in Shropshire. Neil

[@eBikerHowie]

Just finished watching your video about Fat Bikes vs Plus Bikes. Loved the comparison. I have owned 5 fat bikes so far. Absolutely love to ride them year round here in Colorado. You should rerun the test with the proper fat bike tires: Schwalbe Jumbo Jim 4.0 (TL-SS) front and back. You will be shocked at the difference over the Kendas you had.

[@aroundoz]

I was thinking the same thing. Those JJs 4.0 would definitely confuse things and make it decide which is "better."

[@hthomasmcgrady]

I just picked up the cannondale beast of the east 2 plus size and all I can say is OMG its amazing. You think that with 3" tires there is more resistance but it's not, it's smooth and easy to ride. My 1995 cannondale beast of the east weighs 25.2 lbs and the new beast of the east 2 comes in at just 29.8 lbs. They look heavier than they are but they are easy to ride and and a lot of fun. I am hooked.

[@massspike]

I used to only ride fat on snow but this year I started to ride it on relatively flat rock-and-root trails near my house...it is so much more fun than my XC bike on these trails. I normally would ride them once or twice a year on the XC but now I am doing a ride a week on the fattie.

[@NewMexicoOutside]

Mike Williams awesome.

[@aroundoz]

You guys would make any bike look fun. If anyone has ever tried to go into a corner that fast with 4.8 tires, you would appreciate the skill involved here.

[@joejoe8948]

Love my Trek Farley EX 9.8 FS Fat Bike!

[@Pienimusta]

Motocross bike's tyres next ?

[@justinf6758]

Some of them dh mud tires are pretty gnarly

[@dylanwillick7919]

Not sure this is a fair comparison, Neil is just such a smooth, classy rider he makes the fat bike look awesome.

[@Jack1dg]

Scotts still great tho.

[@Toejamscruff]

+Jack D Gray You could put Scott on a cyclocross bike and it would immediately need a "plus" ranking because of his legs!

[@kawh8719]

wow, i love the composite slow shot/ ride review shot!!

[@Venom450hp]

I really enjoyed the editing in this video. I can see the effort put into it. well done

[@kieranm849]

Neil I've got a lot of respect for you as a rider, love your work. This was the first and only time I've ever seen you scared clearing a jump :P

[@acruzp]

Am I the only one that really likes the editing? These guys are doing a phenomenal job

[@jonathanhewitt3927]

I have the dimond back catch 1 that is a full suspension plus bike and I love it

[@that_which_is_not]

great video guys, really liked the presenting on this one too

[@timeslowingdown]

Great videos and nice riding! Both of those bikes look really fun haha

[@hubertarnaud533]

Good video but i've spotted a mistake : Kenda juggernaut fitted on the scott Big ed fat bike are 26 x 4.50, not 26 x 4.80 as shown.

[@svidda8285]

I've ridden 26x3" tires for years. Everyone laugh at me and now everyone is doing that same thing. Interesting.

[@svidda8285]

+Ikreisrond yeah, I'm a wrench here in Slovakia and so pretty sceptical about 27,5" trend. 29" is slowly diyng out here. Funny thing is that I'm 195 cm tall and still prefer really small frames with big wheels. Yeah, and you can get all of pretty good 26" things for dirt cheap, so why to change to something another? Everything is now 27,5" and 1x drivetrain. I will laugh if in about 10 years trends will come to 2x or 3x drivetrains and 26" as a new "radical and fresh trend" These switchbacks happened before.

[@Lughnerson]

The great thing is when you're really old, you can just convert to cruiser/beach bike tires and still have fun.

[@fellowcitizen]

"If you pick / up really quick / you can say you were there" kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGSwfmlpp76thrc lyrics to the sample of the intro :)

[@KandiKlover]

And now the trend is dead and no one is doing the same thing.

[@Idisagreethisisnotanon]

Svidd a speaking of drivetrains I’ve always though a really good idea was to have a single rear cog with a chain tensioner and 4 gears up front, one for super speedy, one for dirt/cruising, one for low gear, one for climbs

[@charmando641]

love the editing from 3:40 to 4:10

[@sashabowen2730]

How much better is one chainring at the front than two? I currently have an XT with two at the front on a 29er hartrail.

[@csikomas8910]

I am thinking about the specialized ladies fat bike for snow, sand and adding an element of fun to my life. I like the extra shock absorption, the extra grip, but I worry about the precision, agility and resistance. I already have a ladies specialized regular mtn bike and it is killer awesome on climbing and down trails, but I am currently not riding in winter. I was hoping the fat bike would incent me to get out there all winter instead of cross county, skiing and snow shoeing. I also go down to Arizona, and I didn't enjoy my regular mtn bike on the sand. Thoughts?

[@gmbn]

Fat bikes are unbeatable in the show and honestly I enjoy riding them in normal conditions, but they certainly aren't as agile and precise as the smaller tyres. Neil

[@discoverydavid]

I'd like to see a timed race: Plus Bike 27.5 vs Regular 29 starting on road, to gravel to single track. With timing as well as the same points covered in this vid, please.

[@nigelevans2883]

Ride a fat bike and you'll see how much fun they are to ride. They climb like a mountain goat and when going downhill the flow and grip is superb.

[@ianholmquist8492]

One does look like a muppet on one. But maybe i should try one out sometime

[@gase9256]

I always watch the commercials before your videos to support you,

[@justicewarrior9187]

But what about a THICC bike??

[@andreasfri]

Please do a "How to ride Rock Gardens"

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Andreas Svart First you need to pick a line and look ahead at rocks that you can clear and those that might stop you. Momentum is your friend and avoid sharp turns that will slow you if possible. Sometimes scoping out a line by walking the bike through is helpful. If you fail go back and try again. We have been riding our local trails with their rock gardens and roots for 25 years. Practice will help. I use to go out on my own and practice days I was not riding them on a group ride. In a group it is helpful to have skilled riders tow you in ( lead) with you following their line.

[@jtbassgambler2594]

I'd go with the 26 x 4"

[@spiedonandon3360]

Back in the day there were these tires called Nokian gazza. 3 inch radius. Very very heavy. Somewhere around 2kg. I chucked a set in the bin back in 2008. Apparently they are collectable, but I fully disliked the weight and sponginess.

[@StonnieDennis]

Thanks!

[@rodolfochavezmorante1250]

please send me the name plus bike... I loved!

[@christophermartinez8389]

Thanks for the great video guys! Personally, I'm just going to stick to mountain biking.

[@Dor1Dor1]

Would you guys able to do a similar video to compare 26+ bike and a normal 27.5 bike?

[@ianholmquist8492]

Question. Can you put thinner rubber on a plus bike, or thinner rims and rubber? That way you can switch out for the conditions and still get the best of both, i would think.

[@elroc10]

I'll stick to my - bike 650b. Great video fellas!

[@bikesbeardsbeers94]

I'll stick to my 29er but I almost wonder if I could shoehorn a set of 27+ wheels/tires in the frame. My next bike for sure though will be a Fatty though. They just look like an amazing amount of fun to enjoy year round.

[@jasonreynolds6927]

I'm pretty sure the Rocket Ron's on the Scott Scale Plus are 2.8" wide... not 3" ^^

[@JohnConnor12]

I love my Fatboy, but hate it on the trail. It's just too much work compared to a more traditional mountain bike and not nearly as precise. Mine has a carbon fork, so it's either going to be a rough or bouncy ride, depending on tire pressure. Northern Michigan along the lake shores or in the winter, and a fat bike is amazing.

[@pink43560]

Fat bikes are loads of fun & open up a whole new world of terrain.

[@vd2597]

Just bought a 2018 stumperjumper 29/6fattie. Coming from a riding a fully rigid Surly Krampus i wish i would have just gotten a 27.5+ hardtail like the Specialized Fuse. Luckily the stumpjumper wheel sizes are interchangable, so I'm gonna swamp over and give the 27.5+ and try. Riding a 29 wheel with a 2.3 wide tyre sucks so bad. The traction is horrible. Maybe i ought to ride a lower psi or something. I miss riding on plus tyres and will soon do so again. Great vid btw!

[@seaze2060]

How easy is it to change the plus size tire and rims with more of a "road friendly" setup? obviously the clearance is there. Is it as easy as finding a spare set of rims and road tires? Would really like to know.

[@eBikerHowie]

Not really a fair test. The fat bike was equipped with the slowest tires made. Try this test again with Schwalbe Jumbo Jim 4.0 tires and be amazed at how much of a difference they make in terms of speed, directonality and agility. I have used both tires and the difference is night and day. Also, check your tire pressures. No more than 10psi for trail riding. Cheers.

[@iamthelonly1]

think you guys can do a video on the differences of full suspension...like the pivit points? really looking to buy a. squishy bike and not sure the pros and cons of each style

[@Poolside_Chat]

I have a hardtail 29er and just got a full fat bike. Next build will be a 27.5+ full squish. Why not just have everything??

[@bojannnn09]

What do you think about putting a plus size rear tire on a normal 26 inch hardtail? I dont have the money to spend on a new fully and imagine the plus tyre will dampen some of blows in the rear.

[@thomashill1438]

3.43 neil riding expressions are so funny

[@lionsof717]

Question: Which Bike would be best for a NEW heavier rider, 300lbs? The trails I would ride on would more FLAT and smooth, not anything found in this vid. Which one? Plus Bike or Fat Bike?

[@KetzalSterling]

Good stuff chaps, just a heads up, take a look at Bike Radar's recent plus bike video. It's superb and really has a lot of useful data. Keep up the good work.

[@dos.1277]

Could you guys do a training video on sprints please?

[@V3RTS]

So my parents have a pretty successful bike shop and I have bought about 9 bikes from them... I have a plus bike, fat tire, full suspension, hardtail, rigid, and even a pretty worn e-bike and I gotta say that I definitely prefer fat tire bike when going down loose hills

[@insanetaco98]

best way to do it is take a page from bmx and have a slightly fatter front than rear. like maybe 27.5+ and 27.5 combo will work wonders

[@gaming247withcodygames2]

and what would you suggest to get started in learning how to do this

[@uzafridi62]

It seemed that the extra rubber makes the bike more bouncy, isnt it hard to control especially one the root/rocky sections. you loose the steering control since its more bouncy. What if you have hybrid bikes with fat wheel on back and narrow in front? good grip and traction on back while more controlled steering without bouncig around.

[@venturemiranda7387]

Which is better for offroading mountain bike

[@christophcikraji3897]

Hey GMBN, I've been following your channel for a little over a year now and love your videos cause your information is legit, and true to what the mtb world seems to agree with. That being said, I'm from Colorado and I'm taking a 2 day trip on the lower Colorado trail, from around Silverton back home to Durango. Any chance you have any videos or expertise on bike-packing minimal weight. I got a pack, and a hammock, and basic tools. Any ideas or suggestions on what else to take?

[@ironore8677]

These guys make any bike look good.

[@zylkaj82]

Hi Neil! Do you remember what psi you were running with your fat bike during this comparison?

[@pforce9]

That split screen with you guys talking in the same scene as you riding was really cool. What software did you use and how did you set up that shot?

[@whistlingcanine1098]

Fat bike gets my vote.. Rad Rover in black..

[@xtwosnakesx]

I did a plus bike demo recently and really noticed a shortcoming with braking power. The demo bike was running XT brakes, so the strength should have been there... could it be significantly affected by the plus tires, or was it just a case of a tired out demo bike?

[@pacosenderos]

excelente comparativa y buenas conclusiones.Buen video

[@The_RC_Dude]

I think the sweet spot for 27.5" is 2.3-2.6"

[@thomas_youe]

They made this video at pedalabikeaway in the forest of dean! I saw them recording!

[@99erikp]

Could you guys do a video on how to get good shoots of riding in the woods? BTW I love the section of the video at around 2:52. When you rolled the camera on a line trough the trail. Nice topics to debate 👍 do you think 26+ is going to be something?

[@lr1902]

Best crankset combination for fat bike?

[@MarkRDKing]

great video effects!! well done, super slow while talking, sweet.

[@andyt1533]

you are so good at mountain biking

[@k3anu16]

Where do you keep all your bikes?

[@paniccity]

My next bike will be a fat bike, fun fun fun...

[@porkchopgaming8480]

You should do an uphill race between a fat bike and a downhill bike that's heavy with like dual crown fork and dropper post and all the downhill stuff making it heavy.

[@joemanly8386]

Since this video, have you guys ridden the Trek Farley EX 8? I am wondering about your thoughts on them running the 4" tires... the happy medium between the 27.5+ and the 4.8 standard fat tire?

[@2dcutout]

Well done guys, a video where you mentioned the most important thing - having fun! Just a quickie though - why didn't you do a quick swap? Then instead of the faux rivalry 'my bikes more fun than yours' at the end, you could have given genuine feedback?

[@kannmanmalmachen]

well done video. Good editing - love it!!

[@morbly]

I really wish you guys included a 29+ like the ones from Trek or Surly

[@jeradgilbert2147]

can you review a 29+ for a change? like Trek's Stache perhaps?

[@Jasn00sh]

You guys are hauling on the downhill!!! Way to shred my dudes!!!

[@cartmanrlsusall]

information you can use in the real world presented in an entertaining way,i want a fat bike but I think the plus is going to be a better value,for the money I'm glad to see both in hard tails.

[@OldDirtGuy]

Neil should get a sponsor to toss him a set of summer fat bike wheels with 60mm rims and 4 inch tires. They are faster and more accurate when you don't need all the flotation.

[@zombiberioni7224]

we need a race between a fat bike a plus bike and a regular trail - hardtail!

[@discodancer9908]

fatbike loses i have a fat bike they are slow

[@ianholmquist8492]

Fat bikes are kind of a novelty item. Unless used for sand and snow

[@annas.2387]

Watching Neil shred on that fatbike nearly had me in tears laughing. Fatbikes are like the Crocs of the bicycle kingdom--yes, I know they are functional, but they still look hilarious!

[@torefrost1926]

I love fatty trail loads of fun good see more videos, but always w any more. Thanks guys

[@frosty64cb]

I'm loving the videos, keep em coming chaps.

[@TheRosa63]

what would be a safer bike for a overweight older person who just wants to go a moderate speed enjoy trails and not snag a front tire on roots and rocks or flip over their bars (which gives me the best chance to avoid it while I learn) who is just trying to get back into shape when springcomes?

[@ericjohnson3647]

TheRosa63 this is just my 2 cents, but I think those things will depend more how you position yourself on the bike.

[@ericjohnson3647]

TheRosa63 are there any clinics or scheduled classes in your area? I would check the websites of nearby trails

[@ImEverex]

TheRosa63 I ride a fat bike to work everyday in Canada. Very snowy. They're easy to manage and you never feel out of control and give you a good workout. Try to find a demo event with fat bikes and try one out

[@PPC4]

fat bike for me. If you want big tyres you may as well do it properly. But hey i like shunning conventions. They do look like fun.....when going downhill.

[@mitchellputukara1711]

I need help. I wish to know if Silverback double scoop fatbike is a good brand and quality to buy from?

[@BigGdh100]

If you guys are comparing bikes then why didn't you swap bikes? Did Scott refuse to ride the fatbike?

[@mattgaunt4]

Because Neil didn't want to share his beloved fat bike.

[@gmbn]

+Matt Gaunt You are correct.. Scott

[@JohnFarnham-dn4fo]

Im 5’2”,will it be adjusted low enough for me to ride comfortably

[@dejan0706]

How much inches plus bike have?I am into buying bike should I take KTM or Scott?Thanks

[@dannymonk854]

I have a fat bike it's awesome on the trails don't knock it till you try it