THE BEST Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra Review on The Internet

[@FauxHammer]

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[@FarmerJim]

So this one of GKTwo?

[@user-hi1mj4mc3w]

Affiliate link doesn't work for me 😢, clicked others and are fine 😞

[@AntiVaganza]

Wait, what?! Does an expert like you still go with crazy bottom layer times like 27-35secs or was it just a default setting? If I have one pet peeve when it comes to resin printing it's people using way longer exposure times than they need. I speculate you fry your screen faster this way, too. Not because the extra mins are anything in the greater scheme of a multiple hour print but because you may be putting a whole lot more heat into the screen. I have yet to have a "bed adhesion" failure on my old, trusty Anycubic 4K Mono and my bottom expos are ~x5 the regular exposure time. Meaning I am often at just 10-12 secs and only four layers. And nope, I didn't come up with this, smarter people did, but it simply works. Besides that, great review. I am hoping the tilting mech can also help resins with heavy die or ceramic particles, etc in them to not settle out so fast. On long prints, this is sometimes an issue. So, maybe the swirling will keep the particles suspended better but at least the faster print time will help.

[@Topless_Stang]

Where did you get that light from?? Wanting to add one to mine and that looks like a decent setup, although I'd rather it was a smart light.

[@FauxHammer]

@@Topless_Stang it's not the best choice IMO, I use them for Lighting effects on videos amzn.to/3UsPXF7 Just get an LED light with a power witch to turn it off. that;s what i used now, but instead of a power switch, I just plug it into the printers USB port that I don't use....

[@Lychee3d]

Great video as always! The Saturn 4 and 4K Ultra are already integrated into Lychee. We're working on integrating WiFi and camera features to make them available as soon as possible 😊

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks guys!!! Oooh that’s exciting, I hope to see your integration method as the current method in this slicer feels a bit Janky

[@SteveSearle]

As a lychee subscriber and potential purchaser I approve of this comment ❤

[@RolandK]

Hi @Lychee3d maybe you have plans to develop "wifi"/"remote" printing option which supports Saturn 4 Ultra? It is soooooo painful to use ChituBox for that....

[@Rybek]

One next interaction. 1) Handle 2) Easy removal of lid without unscrewing anything, just pressing to release 3) Front removal without screws 4) any leak protection inside to catch leaking resin thru the gap. 4) Easy replacement for films by just replacing plastic module so it can take few seconds 5) bigger screen with adjustable position

[@vizionct1]

Ordered my sat4 ultra day one. As a generation 1 Saturn owner, I’m sure I’ll be impressed by this one and relieved your review was mostly positive😅! Thanks and looking forward for more to come!

[@DHyre]

Saturn v1.0 owner here! 4 Ultra ordered July 4, out for delivery July 26 (in US). Can’t wait to see the improvements in person. v1 has been good to me, like my WhamBam plate… tempted for this despite Elegoo comments.

[@elizabethkoopman4984]

Thank you for your detailed review. Your videos have helped inform my decision making with 3D printing more than anyone's and I've went ahead and pre-ordered my Saturn 4 Ultra.

[@GeekDetour]

Wow, Ross, this is the most complete review about the Saturn 4 Ultra. I loved watching it. Congrats man! AND you opened it!!!! I almost did it, but I was already so late to finish the video. I am glad you took even more time and actually opened it. I am also happy you talked about the grip when holding the Build Plate - I sent a message about it to Elegoo. Let’s see if they’ll have time to do something about it… otherwise, I will create yet another MOD for the printer. Oh, I didn’t test, but maybe it is possible to manually adjust the actual pressure of each corner, tightening the springy screws.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks so much brother, I watched your video earlier today, I think I put a comment. Really nice review end nice handle. Did you by chance release those STL files for others to use. That would be awesome. But thanks for another great video from you too. This one is impressing so many people and it deserves its praise no end

[@MegaJ0sh]

As much as it would be nice for them to have had a knurled Surface to hold the build plate surely just get some grip tape for a skateboard or some sticky back 120 grit paper and put that on?

[@theromeog]

Convinced me. Just ordered. Thanks for the amazing videos.

[@Choom42]

I pulled the trigger during your live at launch! Going to be my first resin printer yay! Nice review once again!

[@tb841]

Same mate, but my second printer. I've got a mars 3 and love it but I want to print larger projects and the larger build plate has been something I've been looking at for a while. Nearly bought a Saturn 3 last launch but was poor at the time 😂

[@Gulaschiltis]

same here... I was literally starting reasearch on what to buy... and the next day this was released - instant buy^^

[@benmuir6570]

LOL, it seems I was not the only one convinced to by one of these.

[@Choom42]

Hahaha nope, I think we all raid the website. I think Ross is going to have a nice check soon 😂

[@HangryZens]

Wish I didn’t get the mars 4

[@Londubh]

It's awesome that the Calibration mode allows you to specifically set the time, rather than them deciding what the steps will be for you. That allows you a Binary (Quintinary, actually) Search for dialing in a new resin. For example, if consensus is that the optimum print time is somewhere between 3.7 and 4.1, you can do as follows: Print 1: 3.5, 3.75, 4.0, 4.25 --Two Best: 3.75 & 4.0 Print 2: 3.8, 3.85, 3.9, 3.95 --Two best: 3.95, 4.0 Print 3: 3.96, 3.97, 3.98, 3.99 --Two best: 3.96, 3.97 Print 4: 3.962, 3.964, 3.966, 3.968 --Two best: ???? With _one_ more print, splitting the difference between the two best from print 4, and you've dialed in the perfect print time for that resin to the maximum precision in Chitubox. Plus, if one of the earlier prints was "perfect" from your perspective, then you're done. Add in some sort of resin temperature control, and you should have effectively perfect prints every time with only _four_ test prints total.

[@matts8023]

They disabled this feature on the Saturn 4 (not ultra)

[@Londubh]

@@matts8023 ...why would they do that? Are the margins on the ultra really that much better?

[@matts8023]

@@Londubh I imagine so. Classic corporate move. Like pay to use model for a lot of cars these days - you bought the hardware but have to pay subscription to use it.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

@@matts8023 My friend's car has heated seats, but you can't use them unless you pay a subscription. That is insane and should be illegal.

[@Dr_Evil_Prime]

Thanks for your help - Alex

[@FauxHammer]

WOW! Thank you so much Alex!!!!!

[@JAFC315]

Awesome video as always Ross!!! Great Quality!! Honestly, I'm not able to decide if I should get this or the GK2, which one would you recommend me?

[@leobro6398]

I really liked this review. You said your overall opinion first, then went into details and the small things they could improve.

[@maxpower8080]

I like that you are honest here, this is the best saturn 4 review in the internet (until your next review). Enough nice word, some points I am interested, if there will be a more in depth video. 1. Does the tilt mechanism make a huge difference, a super thin supports possible. 2. Can you talk more about the "auto level", can I ajust the screws or change the higt of the plattform? 3. Do you think, than its possible to use a flexplate (I know, you dont like them, you cann and will probably skip this question) Thank you

[@bogdanuntila1972]

Just ordered. Thanks for the review. It's my first printer and I'd very much like an in depth guide please!

[@ResinForge]

Been waiting for this video! Thank you for going into such great detail on all of the features. I am super excited for this machine. I think it’s a perfect option for a mid range printer for people jumping into the hobby, it has so many quality features for its price! Great video as always Ross! Love seeing the comments on Uncle Jessy’s video about him saying “Fox” Hammer 😂 Made my morning

[@ForgersWill]

Solid reference at the end there.

[@FauxHammer]

been wanting to get Fifth Element in for a while

[@patrickassmus3132]

I got a few screenshots of the printer for the, uh, archives.

[@markoramljak9579]

can you test how saturn 4 ultra would print a flexible resin? those resins require higher lift distances while printing so I'm really curious how, if at all, they would print with this tilting mechanism 🤔

[@motor1841]

Thanks for the great reviews and comparison videos Ross, I purchased one of these and a mars 5 ultra recently with your links. The speed is fantastic and the quality of life improvements are great coming from a Saturn 2. Appreciate all your hard work for the 3D printing community!

[@FauxHammer]

Glad you like them! thank you so much!

[@Barbasnoo]

I was about to preorder this printer based on your review I watched a few days ago. Then I remembered affiliate links and how you deserved my click due to the sheer level of quality and effort contained in this video. So just like pikachu, I chose you and ordered it via your link. Also I need you to outlive me so that I never have to be without your videos. K thanks!

[@FauxHammer]

Wow, thankyou!!!!!! One of the kindest comments I’ve ever read!!!

[@LuminaryGames]

@@FauxHammer Seconded. I have just decided to get into Resin printing. And luckily found your channel and will be making my decision based on your reviews and will make sure to use your affiliate links.

[@22pieter]

thanks Ross I'm just starting with 3d printing the ultra 4 will be my first printer. I checked a lot of videos but yours are great and easy to understand. greetings Pieter

[@wastonleil2629]

so cool to see newcomers! i'm sure you'll like it, just be patient and please pay attention to security warnings. Resin is a danger for health, so please use gloves, mask, and use it in a non-living room

[@Liberty4Ever]

Thank you for the excellent video. KZbin was made for this. Elegoo makes good printers at a good price but they do a lousy job educating their customers about product features and differences between products. They're definitely relying on someone making a great video like this so I'll use your link. I'm upgrading to the Saturn 4 Ultra on Black Friday. I'll get the Elegoo chamber heater and make a heated box for the resin bottles.

[@richarddean8042]

Just ordered one - thanks for a decent review

[@jamUSA24]

Ok, I was about to buy the GK Two. Should I get this instead? Is the print quality better than the Uniformation?

[@AkalaFPS]

Please start comparing printers to the GK Two and similar. I know they compete in difference price brackets but in this case the speed could be a real deciding factor between the two. How does the print speed of the GK Two compare to this printer?

[@porksoda0]

I appreciate having the heater and carbon filter as an optional extra, as I print in enclosures with heaters and extraction external to the printer, and i can't be the only one!. I think it makes sense to add those items if you need them as people like me would be put off paying a higher price for these features.

[@JC02102]

Same. Personally, the carbon filter does absolutely nothing for me. I have an extraction fan hooked up to the back too which on paper should be more than enough but I think the machine (Saturn 2 in this case) just isn't airtight as I need to it be. Without a respirator I can always smell it if I'm in the same room and if I'm there for even 5-10 minutes my throat gets scratchy in a way I've never experienced. Similar story for the heater. Heating the vat instead of the air made more sense to me so I was always going to go DIY.

[@BabyJesus66]

Agreed. I don't need a heater at all. So I'd prefer to not pay for something I don't need. I wish they'd to that with all the extras that not everyone wants, and just keep the price low as it can be... like the AI camera, I don't care about that at all.

[@brianparamore6928]

Same here, heat isn’t an issue for me and 400$ for a built in one is a deal breaker. Saturn 3 user patiently waiting on this gem to expand my output

[@Immolate62]

Florida man says don't heater me bruh.

[@zbug84]

Getting this for my birthday present to myself in August. When I started printing a couple of years ago your videos helped me come to a decision on which machine to go. If the link still works in August, ill be using it!

[@SgtHouse]

Looks like I have new toy in the near future! 😮 As always thank ypu for the awesome review and the 5th element reference at the end!

[@josephstrouse6369]

As I am just getting into the resin printer side of the 3D printing hobby I was just about to get the GKtwo over the Saturn 3 Ultra, however, this new model with its seeming ease of entry use makes me feel like I should go with the Saturn 4 Ultra. I wish it had that heater built in, but with the cost savings being close to 50% I can use the other monies to get a wash and cure station at the same time instead of DIYing those solutions. Thanks for the review, by the way, your lid open dimensions were exactly what I was hoping to hear as the machine will be going into a closed structure with outdoor venting. Cheers!

[@Perserra]

Sadly I'm not in a position to get a new printer right now, but your review and Kirioth's have helped me decide it will definitely be a Saturn 4 Ultra when I do.

[@FauxHammer]

There are other coming out this year… keep an eye out. Love @Kirioth!

[@Phobos2k]

I have very probably seen a big problem. At 19:12 you can see how the spring at the front right relaxes when the tank is lowered and is compressed again when the tank is raised. So the LCD is pressing on the model.

[@FauxHammer]

I think that’s just the bed raising. If this were pressing on the model, I’m sure I would have seen issues

[@amberharvey4566]

what i would rather have is a model without the camera at all, I'm a hobbyist printer i don't need time lapses and i don't want to pay the cost of a feature i wont use in the final price tag , it should be a detachable extra like the filters.

[@simonidentity2630]

Is the speed upgrade with the 4 ultra really worth losing build height and being more drippy than the 3 ultra

[@robse1002]

Great video, Ross, as always. You do make the best 3D printer reviews on KZbin. Can't wait for the Sonic Mighty Revo as a comparison now, though I doubt it can compete!

[@FauxHammer]

thanks so much mate, I put my all into this one as it is an important one. Mighty Revo should be about a week. Review is written just need to record tomorrow then edit

[@henrymatthes1596]

Hello What kind of LED lamp is this at minute 16:56 ?

[@MrTeal888]

Pulled the trigger during your live launch. Now counting the days until it arrives.

[@happybunny1986]

Just pulled the trigger on this one to replace my anycubic mono 5k, plagued with problems ever since I had it. I also replaced my super inconsistent ender 3 v2 with a bambu laps a1. I had trawl through your videos so I could use your affiliate links! Thanks for the reviews and thanks for telling us off for think about all those big k numbers 😂

[@TableFlipFoundry]

So glad you made this video. I ordered my own and am waiting on it now...

[@MrAndyNich]

Literally just got done purchasing this and the bundle of assessories. I'm a Zbrush artist so looking forward to bringing my sculpts to physical form for my art office!

[@shadowcobra07]

Would you recommend this or the UniFormation GKtwo

[@awildtomappeared5925]

2:20 that bolt on the lid, if you tighten it does the lid have more friction? I made a lid mod for my saturn 1 using hinges from a monitor that I could adjust the friction on by tightening a bolt, and I've recently made a 3d printed hinge that works just the same, when I get around to it I will mod my m3 premium and saturn 3u with the printed hinge and share how I did it

[@CaedenV]

Is the heater thing really that big of an issue? I mean... I live in the Midwest US and my old pre-order saturn seems to do just fine as long as I stay above 40*f, which is pretty cold. I mean, you want it above freezing for sure, but once it gets going the reaction is exothermic and it keeps itself warm.

[@thedorklylionchannel415]

Do you know the power of the light source? I feel like that is going to start becoming a distinguishing feature as qol catches up across the board.

[@Iz_Wut_It_Iz]

You got my sub, great video! I’m considering buying this as my first resin printer

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks for the sub! it's an incredible printer

[@pimi8522]

Hey FauxHammer, been loving your videos since getting my printer. Question, why do you always pour the resin over the print bed? Is it a "looks good on video" thing or does it actually have some benefit?

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate, just looks good on video

[@wojteklabuc]

I'm binge watching your, and few other creators, videos to figure out which printer I should buy. For upgrading 1:64 and 1:43 model cars. So I will print only small elements, but tricky ones like wheels with all fine details. And then is resin types question because it would be great if it could work with rubber or clear acrylic type resins. Could you advise me where I should look and what printers are with consideration? And thank you for great job you're doing. You saved me already from making mistake. YT is full of videos which are misleading and your channel is so helpful with explanations and knowledge.

[@v-xup6]

which one would be your best pick (regardless of price) Saturn 4 Ultra vs GKTWO vs MEGA 8K S

[@TheRockDK]

How's the seal on lid regarding resin fumes? I have a Mars 4 9k and the lid does a great job keeping the fumes inside when not in use.

[@_droid]

Most anything with a tilt lid like this isn't going to seal well (or at all really). Form over function I guess. The "old" style full covers are MUCH easier to seal. We've come to the point where it's pretty much a requirement to add a cover to the cover. WTF, right?!

[@3dpathfinder]

I will be using your link when i order mine.

[@Northern_Viking]

I love your videos, and i am going to start my own 3d printing journey, so i have 1 question. If money was not a problem, would you choose Uniformation gktwo, or Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra??

[@FauxHammer]

Depends. Am I printing in my garage? If so, GKTWO. Am I printing in a print farm? Also possibly GKTwo, because of the easily replaceable screen. Am I printing in a room with constant heating? Saturn 4 Ultra I also need to consider the lifespan of the gk2 nowadays

[@Northern_Viking]

@@FauxHammer What do you mean by the lifespan.? I am going to print in my insulated garage, and to be total honest, I have already ordered the GKtwo. I was just trying to find out if i should cancel my order, and go for the Saturn 4 ultra. 😅 I fear buyers remorse.

[@aberodriguez4149]

Great review Ross for the money and the features you mentioned this sure is worth having a second look. Curious to see if those mini heaters are efficient or worthless and it would of been nice if the lift up cover would of had the hinges in a more functioning position as to allow the cover to be raised up and not pass beyond the back of the printer especially for those with limited space. I don't know if someone has shown the true leveling of the bed to the vat but that would be interesting to see also. I will be on the look out for your next review on this printer, thanks for your work and time.

[@alwayswatching6318]

Yeah this flip lid looks like a massive downgrade from the old lift off lid. I can easily put a lift off lid on the floor, but I can't add an extra 25cm to the depth of my work surface and print tent. I suspect I will just undo the hinge and turn it into a lift off lid :)

[@aberodriguez4149]

@@alwayswatching6318 Lol that is a great idea since I am limited in space and funds. There's a KZbinR that has his setup in a closet and he designed some kind of hook to hang his cover on the inside of the closet door btw his printer is not this model but a little bit of brain juice and anything is possible. XD

[@brightdaygaming5692]

is this a good first printer if i was to get into 3d printing?

[@Dirge419]

Ive ordered one myself, first printer so excited to start

[@FauxHammer]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@jeffholt9437]

Hopefully not a stupid question but does the tilt function allow for the flat surfaces of a print to be set at less of an angle to the build plate or even set on it?

[@techlabs9385]

What would you choose between this and Anycubic M5s-Pro? 🙏😊

[@796studios]

Great vid! Just ordered the Saturn 4 Ultra using your affiliate link! Can’t wait to get this in, cheers!

[@FauxHammer]

Awesome, thank you!

[@VideoSage]

Forget not, the Prusa Sl1S had a tilting vat too. Though I don't know about the inside workings.

[@Speakhardly]

The tilting mechanism was invented by Prusa Research for their SL1 printer years ago. Would be great if Prusa got the recognition it deserves for such innovations.

[@FauxHammer]

It wasn't invented by Prusa, it's been in industrial printing much longer. Prusa only brought it to consumer market first, Elegoo made it affordable.

[@fitz394]

What a weird thing to comment.

[@Speakhardly]

I appreciate the correction. However, while Elegoo made it affordable, Prusa’s open source mentality did most of the work for them. Prusa are now having to exit the resin printer consumer market due to not wanting to compromise on their open source stance and due to being priced out of the market by the Chinese competitors. I hope that Elegoo and Anycubic can keep innovating even as the reprap community slowly diminishes.

[@FauxHammer]

@I completely appreciate Prusa as I hope I’ve shown in my latest video. But you know Prusa acquired the company that designed that series of resin printers right?

[@Speakhardly]

@ I do, yeah. Though it’s not clear how much of the SL1 was developed after that shift. I’d imagine quite a bit due to the gap between the purchase of the company and the SL1 release. I was mainly just airing out my grievances because I’m sad to see so many people accepting the move to proprietary technology by companies like Bambu Lab, etc. They took what Prusa made and used Prusa’s slowness at a critical time to steal a lot of the growing FDM market. It’s problematic to see the industry moving away from open source, as a few years ago such consumer-oriented stances drove a lot of purchase decisions in the growing market. I’m now getting worried about people simply not caring and that leading to the market's inevitable stagnation and price hikes. Your video was really good and this move by Elegoo has actually made it possible for me to get this technology. I’ve been waiting for an SL2 to release but since Prusa is now moving to the pro market, I’m sadly going to have to let go of my own principles and buy the Saturn 4 Ultra. Still deliberating whether to get this or wait until a Saturn 5 Ultra but nevertheless, the low prices + good quality can no longer be ignored.

[@wlittle3493]

What led did you use to put in printer? I use my printer in a dark garage and this would be perfect for it for my time lapses

[@Vulcanobruno]

Thanks again for this video. I bought my first printer because of your videos Unfortunately I didn't watch enough videos to choose a good printer. so I want to change 🤣 I'll be waiting for Sonic's video. From what you said in the chat, it doesn't look great, but we'll see.

[@RumblingBob]

cool and interesting review! I liked how indepth and technical it was, but i would suggest to cut down on the stock reaction clips. They are too long and don't add anything but interrupt the flow of your visual narration, maybe add them in an overlay over actual footage if you must.

[@FauxHammer]

We keep them to a minimum, there’s genuinely nothing that works better here

[@smtkelly]

Great review, does the lid let out resin smells?

[@crippninja4664]

How does the stack up against the gk2?

[@FattyZee]

Very excited, have to wait until August in Australia but its locked in

[@mfeltster]

Would you recommend this over the Phrozen Revo?

[@Matreeas21]

As a first time buyer would you purchase the S3U or S4U?

[@FauxHammer]

I'd get the 4, unless the 3 is significantly cheaper

[@konyik6667]

Wich one is the best between anycubic m7 pro and elegoo saturn 4 ultra?

[@brendon6930]

Does the AA work?

[@jamessalisbury3320]

So do you actually level the plate or no? I mean, any screws need loosening/tightening?

[@jakeaquilina505]

i like the silicone dog mats, im in the market for a new printer since i sold up everything a couple years ago. I used to use food trays as they are solid and were fairly easy to clean. how do you find the silicone mats when moving parts around and such?

[@nikroth]

I was expecting this ! Great day !!

[@TheNitrox22]

Excellent review, a note on your final comment. I live in a warm latitude so I am ok not having to pay extra for a VAT heater.

[@TheMordious]

Could not buy another resin printer after the Prusa Sl1, and then updated to SL1S...why? The only printer with a tilting bed. Well, now purchased this printer and awaiting delivery.

[@Gregatron13]

I've been having success with my M5S Pro by setting everything up in Lychee then dropping it into the Anycubic slicer for remote printing. I'm looking at the Saturn 4 to get away from ACF. Question 1: Can I just use high quality (not speed) resin and atill be fast? 2: Is Chitubox good enough to just use it and skip Lychee or should I use the same process with the S4?

[@patrikandersson8054]

So, for someone who prints in a temperature controlled, well ventilated space, this is a pretty good printer?

[@scottpovlot7376]

Ross, this really is the best Saturn 4 Ultra review I have seen. I am a bit skeptical about the lack of speed options in the slicer and just Slow/Fast in the printer. I agree that the tilt helps so much with peel forces. This is great for beginners. But more advanced users should be able to experiment with even faster options. Hopefully, an option can be made as firmware update. I was also surprised you didn't mention that a handle would be helpful. I saw you lift the lid with your pinky which is great. And then I thought that I would have a whole bunch of fingerprints all over the front.

[@FauxHammer]

I honestly don;t see the lack of a handle as an issue. it;s why i included that part, if you listen to the audio at that bit you can tell i added in the audio afterwards

[@jimmyispromo]

Great video

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks!

[@mikelucraft]

Can you put a brewing belt around the vat? 😊

[@DialetoNerd]

Tilt release mechanism came around on Prusa SL-1 couple years ago , good video 👏

[@dan3dprint183]

Formlabs in 2012 used the same system for the Form 1and drop that system in next model Form 2.

[@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262]

Tilt releases aren't new, they go way back, they're just new for consumer printers. The SL1S starts at $1700.

[@Twigz11]

You opened the printer up and mentioned it was simple to do so but how to easy is an LCD replacement?

[@elleryfg7853]

It doesn't make sense that the auto leveling is just springs on the platform. Springs alone wouldn't level the platform against the screen since they would only be parallel in the moment the platform is pressed against it and as soon as the platform raises it would go back to whatever position it had previously. During the printing process the platform/part and the bottom of the vat are not touching, they are separated by whatever is your layer height. The just springs statement doesn't make sense mechanically

[@HasteHobbies]

True

[@wolfie54321]

It looks like there's some spring loaded ones (the ones that you can see the head of the screw moving when he squeezes the assembly), and others that have a black cover, I wonder if the ones that have the black cover have some sort of locking mechanism so that the ones with springs push it into the screen and then the ones with the black cover lock it into position.

[@elleryfg7853]

@@wolfie54321 somebody is going to have to disassemble that build platform. LOL

[@DailyPaintworks]

The vat/screen assembly moves to level to the bed, not the other way around.

[@Zimpo79]

@FauxHammer Ross -- how do you feel this compares to what we have seen on the Anycubic M7 Pro so far? That is $499 currently but has a heated vat system so close in price to the S4 Ultra + Heater.

[@W98Dragon]

Hey Ross, kinda off topic, but I wiil say it again, I tried your resin and it's superb! Much much better compared to anycubic WW+, I just hope that it doesn't crack as people say waterwashable resins do, even tho I'm printing models that I prime and paint with lacquers...

[@dyansis]

Really considering a saturn for my next purchase. I dont care about wifi connectivity or cameras so for me the big thing verses saturn 3 is the tilt screen snd whether its worth the price difference

[@FauxHammer]

Also be aware that the normal one can’t do Antiailiasing, either. That may matter. I’ve done a comparison of both printers

[@dyansis]

@FauxHammer I watched your side by side straight after. The anti aliasing will be a thing. cheers 😁

[@simons3857]

Mars 3 pro just crapped out Don’t feel like replacing parts Thinking this will be my next printer

[@HBKVincent]

hello between this one and the future m7 Pro from anycubic, which one would you choose? Because I'm very hesitant :) very good video by the way :)

[@georgeyboyhowe1685]

with the tilting vat can you still print directly of the bed ie no supports if not elegoo should put something in the software to lock the tilt flat only for printing directly of the bed ??

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah you can still print that way if you want.

[@melvinmartinez5144]

Hey, I preordered the Saturn 4 Ultra and I have to say it’s a very nice looking machine…I’m relatively new to resin printing even though I’m not playing by the rules…LOL I have an Anycubic Photon D2, and now the Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra…I quickly fell in love with resin printing with my D2, so I quickly decided on a bigger build plate and even though I wanted the Jupiter which is no longer available I settled for a midsize build plate instead. I set up the printer once it got here and hit print on the first model I sliced, and did get a resin stain on the build plate. I do not understand all the resin settings yet so I just went with factory settings and nothing. What can I be doing wrong?

[@C.LudwigStpeter]

Would you recommend this over a GKTwo?

[@FauxHammer]

No. I still prefer that. But it’s damn close!!! I wish that had this tilting vat. I wish this has that printers ease of use and heater…

[@TheFreestyleStorm]

hows the print quality compared to the heygears reflex rs?

[@FauxHammer]

It’s hard to justify that as the difference. Depends on your resin and how good you are at dialing a printer in. They are bloody close but the value of the RS goes beyond the print quality. It’s about the experience.

[@bigbeartn]

I been thinking about getting this printer BUT what worries me is the bearing or the aluminum going south...So I think I will go with the Saturn 3 Ultra

[@TokynawaTube]

Fantastic review Ross! I’ve just purchased the M5S Pro and haven’t even used it yet. But this video has given me serious FOMO. Is it worth selling the M5S Pro and buy the Saturn 4 Ultra? Only reason I bought the M5S Pro was the heater!

[@DavidHurst78]

Also pressed buy it now using your link. Thanks Ross

[@uwegraf8013]

Thank you very much Ross. Great Review 👍 Would you still go with the Uniforation GKtwo or with the new Saturn 4 Ultra?

[@Jane-de2re]

Saturn 4 Ultra

[@enigmaticreverieproduction5169]

Preferred it using your link! Thank you!

[@fmkkshi]

Awesome video! I'm a begginer and the saturn 4 ultra will be my first printer... any tips of wash and cure (2 in 1 would be great) machines to match the saturn 4 ultra?!

[@FauxHammer]

The Mercury is the one to match the Saturn Ultra

[@nobirdsnomasters]

Any diff in quality for the fast vs “slow” mode that you noticed?

[@FauxHammer]

quality was good enough at fast, had no need to slow it down. but I highly doubt that would improve it

[@nipplesaladzodt3798]

I just got my Saturn 4 ultra, what exposure time would you recommend?

[@Lexst1]

Got the second Ultra 4 in and this one does not power up at all. Unfortunately, that is 2 for 2 having issues. First one had a screw in the vat plate that did not have any threads on it. As my first resin printer I did not know that was wrong (Hindsight I should have) and that led to a hole in the film>resin all over the screen>Screen going bad. They sent a new vat but the damage was done. I got about 300 minis from the first one that I really liked. I could have continued by only populating the left side of the build plate but wanted to put in a new screen. Second one is just complete disappointment. I have contacted support, and they asked me to troubleshoot the power brick and to remove the rear plate and check the connecters. No issues found. I have ordered a third machine in the meantime. Awaiting a reply from support and will let you know...

[@rickyeates9810]

In the price range of the Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra, which printer would you recommend? Is it this printer?

[@massimilianocibelli7658]

Ross, you think installing a magnetic flexplate would be usefull on this machine to reduce the cleaning mess? Also, would it be difficult with the self leveling system?

[@FauxHammer]

You know I’m generally against flex plates but that could work. But you’d still need to transfer this bed to an area where you remove the plate and still have resin drip everywhere. Unless you flex parts off whilst keeping the tray attached to the z-arm. But then you risk dropping models onto the screen…