Fear Vs. The World (Punk Documentary)

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[@deranged_nubreed]

This whole video was based around fear on SNL but NBC blocked the full set from that night I had it all in 4K an best it looked an sounded so I had to cut that out but I added the new wave theatre set and a bonus lee ving tv appearance with a live performance and interview hope everyone enjoys it 🤘

[@siggyretburns7523]

Lorne Michaels is a butt nugget.

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

They didnt block the full set- I sat and watched it live. They only had time to do 4 songs and they cut off the last one-

[@deranged_nubreed]

@@joedoomsdaypio4374 no they blocked my video as it’s copyrighted

[@MrMophead41001]

Thanks for the hard work and upload. Cheers

[@danaustin4624]

Appreciate the doc, cheers!🍻

[@drunvert]

Just saw FEAR in 2022 in Long Beach California and they were still killing it. Tons of new fans, a bunch of Long Beach homies. I HAD A BEER WITH FEAR. Or more precisely with Lee I'm 59 now but was 16 in 81

[@djthrift6244]

Saw FEAR for the first time in Miami Beach in 91' I believe at Washington Square. It was when the original lineup reunited, it nice small venue too, so it was super awesome to be that close.

[@drunvert]

@@djthrift6244 I got in the pit and skanked while everyone else was just moshing. It was a blast and all these young dudes were giving me high fives for doing the throwback. I was totally gassed though. Don't have the lungs

[@goratgo1970]

@@drunvert Totally, last time for me I was surprised how winded I was after only four songs!

[@ramcharger154]

Lucky! so fortunate. I did get to see F.E.A.R. in the early 90s in a trashed club in omaha❤

[@percy6632]

i remember seeing FEAR the first at the Whiskey Ago-go in L.A. some friends around the early part of the 80's in the summer. the show was sold out, the place was pack , it was so hot inside that it felt like being in a sauna. i remember the Mentors was the opening band. i never been so scared and so exited at the same time. the slam pit was so violent, but no one are getting hurt. the LAPD were outside the venue just waiting, just waiting to break up the show, but FEAR manage to finish the show without any problem. it was one of the best hardcore show i've ever seen that i will never forget.

[@crustkitchen2044]

Jesus the mentors opening too?! sounds like a hell of a night

[@jasonkessler6841]

Same thing I thought. @@crustkitchen2044

[@teklife]

HAIL THE MENTORS!!

[@teklife]

@@crustkitchen2044 HAIL THE MENTORS! AND HAIL ODERUS URUNGUS!!

[@jasonmay2023]

First the germs, now fear??? Dude you are killing it with these docs! Thank you so much!

[@deranged_nubreed]

No problem 🤘

[@FUNZO1975]

Do Circle Jerks.

[@yoggysothoth]

This is so freaking awesome omg. How have i not seen this before. I am finally going to see FEAR live in two days for the first time at 53 after loving them since i was 11 🖤

[@user-js9in4lr3e]

I feel like Ving's stage banter in the decline is one of the top documented moments in hardcore lmao.

[@awarewolves1712]

"Yous all suck, who don't think so?"

[@richardjohnson7880]

Me too!

[@AllonBakuth]

Agreed. Especially the six pack joke.

[@Pr1me_Zer0.TheRealRevWD]

That SNL appearance changed my life. I was watching it with my dad, i was 12. That performance instantly made me a hardcore fan. Havent looked back.

[@willieluncheonette5843]

their debut LP is one of the great hardcore albums. Lee in the Decline film is classic.

[@user-js9in4lr3e]

A line I think is up there with Shakespeare is when he goes "don't bite so hard the next time I c**." Classic.

[@willieluncheonette5843]

@@user-js9in4lr3e lol....yes, he was a master at baiting the audience

[@watermanglenn1]

​@@user-js9in4lr3e😮yes it is. When you're going to go away for the weekend.... hot tub.... hot shit.... eat my fuck! Classic! The best! 40 something years later and it never gets old.

[@gogoyubari366]

Very talented musicians!

[@nuwavedave]

Fear were local Valley Guys. Philo was in our circle for years. He and Derf showed up at a party the week after SNL, and we jammed on some Beatles songs (yeah, BEATLES). By day, Derf (Fred) was a real estate agent, and Philo was a physicist. Philo lived at "Hell House" - and it was! "Have a beer with Fear"? The brew always flowed at Hell House. You'd sit on the sofa - and beer cans would be crunching under the cushions. Fear was "satire" - but then they weren't. They were just "FEAR".

[@misanthropist3]

What part of the SFV were Fear from? Reseda?

[@drunvert]

Another funny point is that my parents at no time ever cared that I was a punk or was going to Hollywood at 16 and 17 years old because I kept getting Bs in school.

[@dirtystayouts24]

Great job putting these Gems together. Lee Ving is so talented & witty…most don’t understand. A true great!!

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

John Brannon also grabbed the mic and screamed "NEGATIVE APPROACH WILL FUCK YOU UP!"

[@awarewolves1712]

Are you talking about FEAR's SNL performance or a few months ago? 😉 Dude's voice and violent energy have endured like few others.... Laughing Hyenas and Easy Action kick ass too

[@dwaver1708]

Thanks for this on Lee Ving- my Hero for many decades 🌊🏴‍☠

[@hsatin20]

This is epic AF. Noone has the stones to do stuff like this now days. Funny watching Alan Thick out of his element trying to interview Lee, the nervous silence of the crowd is amazing.

[@ianloeb1672]

Actually The Dwarves still have this level of hardcore aggression maybe even more so

[@caroline77749]

Best Christmas song ever!

[@djthrift6244]

In retrospect, I gotta give credit to the girl who went after Lee, she put her money where her mouth was and actually held her own. I'd be interested to know if anyone ever interviewed her about it.

[@robertbikers9502]

Yeah, I wonder how that would have gone down if all the stage bouncers didn't intervene. Either way, not such a good look for Lee.

[@alberto9594]

I've heard Lee say they were actually friends.

[@christhomson7669]

​@@robertbikers9502things were different back then. Punk shows were dangerous and there were some bad folks around. I was there and I'm glad I was.

[@azrael7891]

​@@robertbikers9502 must have never been to a punk show before.

[@ianloeb1672]

@@christhomson7669if you go to a Dwarves show you can still experience that scene

[@djtall3090]

Everybody mellow out mannnn

[@JAWS_164]

I saw these Guys at Fremont Country Club in Vegas Last week and they were Awesome

[@paulosicne8498]

Great old FEAR footage. Thank you for making this documentary.

[@awesomedallastours]

Unlike a lot of his peers Lee sang live very well.

[@nuwavedave]

Yeah, Lee could even sing opera. Fear were excellent musicians.

[@lucasroche8639]

Lee Bing rocks the Jazz Funk!

[@Frank_42]

Lee Ving.....ie leaving... he would tell people I'm Lee Ving.

[@CFarnwide]

Wow, great little project you put together! I appreciate you posting it for all to see 😎

[@Bandit-em1sw]

This is fantastic! Thank You.

[@Ravenghoul]

Legends! I had that show on cassette as a kid, loved it. Decline of a Western Civilisation… friggin awesome. I always wished I’d been there, but I was a baby at the time.

[@russellj.s.257]

Fear belongs in RNRHOF

[@darreneffle4118]

Early mid 90s lee lived near northridge while he was in range war. He would come rent videos at a store and i would always talk with him give him free movies. Cool dude

[@boscopit]

Lee looks like my grandmother.

[@Brando-Lee3725]

Dude could really sing damn great when he wanted to !!!! He had real talent . But I love his work in FEAR , great stuff , legends .

[@podpunk]

❤bomb

[@deranged_nubreed]

Salute 🫡

[@1_dirty_rotten_imbecile695]

"Please Keep them coming". ☝🏻🤓Cheerz 👍🏻💚💨

[@1_dirty_rotten_imbecile695]

They were unforgettable! 👍🏻💨

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

The first guy to stage dive was Todd Swalla from Necros-

[@Golfingflaco]

Lee Ving was a fucking visionary!

[@JNathanielBerke]

both of these docs are well done - nice work!

[@PinkyJujubean]

I used to be part of the tape trading community in the late 80s and early 90s and I first heard Fear when someone sent me a tape of a bunch of their songs. Been a fan ever since 🖤

[@danielkrall6501]

"The suburban scumbags they don't care, they just get fat and dye their hair" is one of the truest statements ever put into song. Fear always put a ton of satire and tongue-in-cheek in their music, but there is also a ton of truth there.

[@siggyretburns7523]

The fact is theres more truth than falacy in their lyrics. They just dont sugarcoat it. And THATS what bothers most people. FEAR. Fear of things you dont want but are inevitable. Well, you can either relate to their message, or wait until the shockwave confirms it. Have a fuc*ed day 🖕

[@CFarnwide]

“I dont care about you” and “I love living in the city” perfectly describes society then and today. There were so many people I introduced to those songs who just didn’t get it and thought the band endorsed the behavior. It was a quick way to filter out the people who I really didn’t need to hang out with 😆

[@robthomson1327]

Check out the original MD45 album, Lee Ving is awesome!!

[@thealternativevlog]

That guy looked old even when young.

[@praketingrichraft6181]

ONETWOTHREEFOURONETWOTHREEFOUR!

[@keithkovalic]

Dude...... This is great. Can't wait to see what amazing band you cover next.

[@goratgo1970]

I miss my More Beer t-shirt, whoever stole it is nuthin' but a low down skagadoo!

[@ianloeb1672]

I still have mine

[@gabrielmccaffrey1507]

Philo shouting to the crowd while in New York that “ it’s great to be here in New Jersey” is punker than punk.

[@user-bq6qf7di8w]

Brilliant doco. Is an uncensored version of this doc available anywhere? Minus the silenced curse words?

[@shannonandsheila1403]

Fear definitely have the best guitarist in punk rock

[@williamdixon-gk2sk]

1st time i ever went to n.y.c. we got off the train in Manhattan and some guy was busking w/ a sax and a sign that said 'new yorks o.k. if you like saxophones' no body else was laughing?

[@rogra2087]

☆So freakn' cool. Really grateful to have this doc, well done as its by those there. FEAR is always been one of my, if not my number one punk faves. Plus their still rockin-an-a-rollin, new album comin out 2023! L.L.F.! THANX♡☆

[@deranged_nubreed]

Npnp glad you liked it I gotta cpl more in the tank coming soon to stay tuned salute 🫡 🤘

[@u4tmradio]

hay any chance you would do a short intro for the back of the dvd?@@deranged_nubreed

[@Dr.Meth666]

SPIT STIX AND CHUCK BISCUITS ARE THEE GREATEST STICKMEN EVER!!!!

[@anominous3895]

Bomber from RKL was sick too

[@Dr.Meth666]

@@anominous3895 drummer from the GRIM is sick and Brian betzger from Jerry's kids is fucking phenomenal

[@richardjohnson7880]

Omg seen fear 6 months ago spit still killing it.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Don’t forget Earl Hudson and Mackie Jayson. DH Pelegro was a beast drummer too.

[@aaronsaunders6974]

Lee ving was so cool in dudes

[@hansmoser989]

have a beer with the fear....cheers. h.m.

[@stevep4574]

Lee is a good actor.

[@gabrielmccaffrey1507]

Wrong, this entire episode did, in fact show on syndication sometime in the late 90s on Comedy Central. I remember watching it and it was amazin

[@BeatrixKiddo77]

This is why I watch KZbin. I absolutely love FEAR. Thank you!!

[@drowningin]

“Tickets to this concert cost 8.50” That seems like a lot

[@BeefSupreme-vk9sz]

I was a punk before punk music hit, it was the perfect thing for me at the time in the 80's, I m 55 and still startin shit in the pit, a FEAR show was a place a boy could go see them and leave a man, it was mayhem and great music 🤘😵🤘

[@nuwavedave]

Punk Rock hit in 1976 (unless you want to count The Stooges and MC5). So, you were a Punk at 7 years-old?

[@BeefSupreme-vk9sz]

@@nuwavedave yes exactly, I'm speaking of personality, I was arrested in 5th grade and have been anti authority my whole life, I also have the Ramones blitzkrieg bop on 45 that I took from my older sister about that same time even though the Ramones are not punk , they're more like Sha na na, the pistols are punk but mainly I'm speaking of hardcore punk just like I said , early punk is retro crap, I'm talking about real violent loud crazy shit like the masters FEAR

[@BeefSupreme-vk9sz]

@@nuwavedave ya and still staring shit in the pit at 55, bet you're on the sidelines right?

[@dickgenitalia1506]

The trouble today with women…the mouth don’t stop

[@edoubleo7608]

Saw a show where they were having sound problems and Lee told the venue owner to go make him a f*#king sandwich 😂

[@pariahthistledowne3934]

my 2 Favorite Punk Albums...GI and the Record. LOL! As far as harmless fun violence....it WAS back then...but a few years later your Wife gets a broken arm at a Jesus and Mary Chain show ( why there were Hardcore Skin kids at JAMC show, i will never understand)! By '93...you have folks in ABC No Rio pit with Framing nails in their leathers! Kid lost an eye at some Reagan Youth offshoot's show at ABC i was at. Addendum...just to give some East-Side Love....Dead Boys record was great also. Hmmm...and Early Devo was absolutely NOT commercial. What did UK give us? Butt-Flaps and Bondage Pants...which we certainly could have done without, lol! At least Crusties came up with a functional use for Butt-Flaps,....as sitting on Ave A or La Plaza was Biohazardous! I ate plenty of C-Squat soup, and i am still alive! FFS! I should do a Podcast or something....rambling old weirdo! " Camarillo" was my gateway into Tendencies, even before "Institutionalized", Fun Tymes! Big Husker fan also, lol....i am a PUNK and a half! Proud of it! If, in '84, Lee Ving had sang for Cool and the Gang....the world would be a better place...PROVE ME WRONG!

[@awarewolves1712]

Not trying to prove you right or wrong, but would point out that ABC No Rio wouldn't have been cool with FEAR a few years later. They canceled a Raw Power (Italy) show ~2002 at the last minute after convening some bullshit emergency "squat control squad" meeting and decreeing that the "Ze Raw Power album art does naht meet ze standards of ze collective." Very lame especially considering that, besides Gilman St., they were the only venue Raw Power could possibly sell enough merch to even break-even on the tour. Cheers!

[@User-kv5bn4dxn]

​@@awarewolves1712 they've been ruining cool shows since back then? 😂😭

[@viperturd1]

Hey in my f- Xmas 7" there is a interveiw/ insert ( from before 9/11) that said the guitar+bass player moved to Afghanistan to join the Taliban in your research do you find anything out about that? I have never heard of it before or after so I assumed it was a joke by Lee ving but like I said pretty sure even bootleg copy I have is pre 9/11

[@ramcharger154]

You can also catch Lee Ving in Flashdance in 83 Streets of fire in 84(Diane Lanes 1st movie at 18!) and in Clue in 85. I could've sworn he was in an episode of Married with children 😂❤❤

[@davedaroadie7520]

He's also in a biker comedy called "Masters Of Menace". Check out the video for "Beer In Heaven"

[@deranged_nubreed]

@davedaroadie7520 he’s funny in this and I love him n dudes kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3fZaYqnrNmEpKMsi=vj89-Nwvz8k-tSTg

[@ike0G]

Night court

[@mghc7]

The wild life…it’s casual

[@asher3491]

"Their music is satire. Grotesque satire but satire nonetheless." 😂

[@shecontrolsme666]

So was fear like a industry plant like steel panther

[@user-mk3co2mg6b]

I went to see fear in Phoenix and there was a gas leak in the warehouse, we thought it was a new song don't light a cigarette lee Ving said.

[@coryondreako8227]

Im so glad these are the people running our country now

[@deranged_nubreed]

?? ??

[@richierugs6544]

baby baby baby where did our love go? meet me at Rivington

[@ChiefWindyCheeks]

9:50 This songs called equality

[@careful__Icarus]

Wonder what Mustaine thinks of this video.

[@brianmorris364]

And jah rule of course

[@delanoarts3703]

I love thr fact there is still a lot of people into the old school like fear my only criticism is rock really is stuck in the past

[@a.fritoaxecheeto6052]

Thank you, I've been punk my whole life, so good to see this and Lee getting on in years articulating well the early punk movement and it's foundation for us today and onward, don't stop and many blessings

[@deanpesaturo6401]

Elvis Costello swore at the beginning of his song after the drummer screwed up the start of the song and because it is taped on live television he was BANNED from appearing in the future henceforth this did not happen because it was pre planned or to cause bodily harm to anyone who was already going to do something to damage his career or his hosting that same show years later after the passing of Brandon Tartikoff or whoever was the head of NBC at that time. Fear is a hardcore punk band and Costello was not. ❤

[@salty_berserker_channel]

Damn dude! A FEAR documentary, no way! I dont care about you, fuck you! 😂😂😂 real music! Lol

[@teklife]

looks like ol Lee Ving got into home brewing, lol, what a punk af apt he lives in 🤣🤣

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

Was the dude introducing them at 24 minutes from night flight? That was on Saturday and Friday nights before MTV was on it was the place to see new music in 80-81-82, I vaguely recall Lee assaulting him?

[@jgramworld]

Where's the Ian Mackaye interview from? Sounds a good listen

[@martybrown8559]

the first song i heard was new york's alright...college radio 1985..I hated it but it made me say WTF and then i got the cassette

[@harveyg104]

They look absolutely middle aged, preaching to children. 😮😮😮

[@deranged_nubreed]

Nah ppl jus actually looked tuff at a young age compared to kids these days lol 😂

[@User-kv5bn4dxn]

Fear formed in 1977 . First full length 1982. Lee ving would have already been 32 yrs old by then. So yes considering his audience was teenagers he was substantially quite a bit older than them

[@rippedtorn2310]

They absolutely werent ''mostly'' middle class . Working class riot squad in your area .

[@tyyuuuihycyctct]

what did he say "if you're a member of anr go die"? what's anr?

[@DevSodDribble]

I used to have a VHS recorded of that Fear appearance; Around 1992, when Comedy Central was new, they dug out those old SNL shows from the 80s that hadn't been seen since the 80's. What's strange is Fear fades out and then we see a film of a pumpkin being carved with blood guts and eyeballs being scooped out.

[@fumanpoo4725]

I don' like pastrami...

[@brianmorris364]

Brisket is better. I like brisket.

[@brianmorris364]

I don't like forks and spoons. I think they make you look like a goon. Forks are cool but they suck.

[@impalaman9707]

I'm sure the London punks thought the west coast US scene were all posers. Lee Ving looked like he was about 50 years old. The UK scene was a true youth movement. The bands were actually the same age as their audience over there

[@pariahthistledowne3934]

Germs were entirely Youth Culture, and so were the Bags and many others...and none of us really give a fuck what London Punx thought, then or now....and i am a former Crasser Crustie.

[@Kissthebottle68]

Who gives a F what London punks thought ? The LA scene at that time was violent , raw and HARDCORE. Not a silly fashion show like the London art school crowd.

[@impalaman9707]

@@pariahthistledowne3934 I notice you didn't say X--they definitely weren't young!

[@User-kv5bn4dxn]

@impalaman9707 plenty of west coast kids in bands causing disorder. And what about Charlie Harper & uk subs? He was already 35 yrs old in 79 when they made their first album

[@ianloeb1672]

@@Kissthebottle68the NYC scene was much more hardcore

[@d-equalizer]

What happened to Lee He looks so old now, is it just old age or something happened?

[@deranged_nubreed]

He’s in his 70s he’s just super old now

[@frontpuff]

Funny little Piece of Media history! Too much homophobia but funny still

[@pariahthistledowne3934]

i am not sure you know the definition of "phobia"

[@jeffreyknieser7490]

Fear was so great. Wokeism wouldn't allow it today.

[@deranged_nubreed]

Facts

[@ianloeb1672]

@@deranged_nubreedI still display my More Beer Shirt for everyone to see proud and unashamed

[@johndoe-cb5ck]

Yeah "punk rock" is so tender and safe these days

[@SkragorSkumdreg]

I'll allow it

[@dont.ripfuller6587]

Who TF cares what's allowed or not. Smh

[@alpoe4467]

I am incandescent about punk, I NEED to fact-check much of the documentary. Many of these factoids are new to me.

[@KoLjAx]

😂

[@MarcusTrawick]

Punk wasn't even in style anymore. By the autumn of '81 I was into the new romantics thing.

[@MikeIXWilliams]

Hahahahah!! THATS funny! We didnt care what was "in style"... The fact you actually admit you were a New Romantic apparently because it was fashionable is hilarious.

[@MrFrancismanacis]

FEAR is okay, just really bums me out, with all the homophobia back then. Really stupid.

[@johnfountain5619]

All of that was nothing but intentional offensiveness. If it was loud, aggressive, uncomfortable, rude and/or sarcastic: FEAR was all about it.

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

Check it out, everybody was. Get real. Politically Correct punk rock is hypocrisy- Most of the PC type usually dropped out of the scene because they'd get the shit kicked out of them.

[@kevinrhea7332]

you can’t kill your mother and father if they never have you 🧠

[@patrickbarnes2707]

Yeah i agree. Im old and was around and can tell you alot of punks weren't co with the homophobia at the time.

[@watermanglenn1]

Just okay?... Really?...Fear was the cream of the crop bud. Their level of musicianship with the entertainment bonus /value of genuine coolness, wit ,humor ,and free compliments to anyone in need of a good time. They always seemed to be enjoying themselves drinking cold ones during their performances while being tight as ...fuck. There hasn't been and never will be anything in any musical genre or "scene", that is on the level that Fear performed at.religiously.. It doesn't get any better then that!

[@MrKGHunter]

Great doc! Original Fear was fucking full on. Great stuff. Honestly, only problem with them is that they pretty much said all they had to say with that first album. I don’t like the boring, dogmatic turn that Hardcore took after bands like Fear. They were fun and full of humor along with all of the heaviness of that time and place.