Fears for the Mental Health of Haize, a Dog 'Obsessed' With Reflections | It's Me or The Dog

Victoria meets Haize a dog who's owners suspect has an obsession with light and reflections.
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[@rayb.6345]

We have a cat, and we got a laser for play. Our cat started to aggressively attack our kids, and my husband figured it out that the laser was making our cat paranoid. We threw it away, and never saw the aggressive behavior again. Those lasers are not mentally healthy for cats or dogs. This poor dog was probably scared and paranoid.

[@carolg.6838]

I had a laser years ago. I got frustrated because my cat could not catch it.

[@ren8771]

I can only imagine its the animal equivalent of a hallucination for us, something that looks so real and distracting but doesnt physically exist. They get keyed up from the chase and never receive the dopamine from successfully catching it. Sad really :(

[@rayb.6345]

@@ren8771 ah that’s a good explanation for it! Thank you for this. We warn other pet owners now about it. We all do our best to be kind pet owners so it’s good to help each other.

[@thomaslevy7249]

I was about to buy a laser pointer for my new cat, and thought that my dog could enjoy playing with it too. You, Ren (in this thread here), and Victoria have talked me out of it, sounds like a very bad idea for both of them.

[@ren8771]

@@thomaslevy7249 Im not 100% sure, but I think laser pointers CAN be used safely if they receive a unique toy or reward for "catching" the light (you would turn it off when they make contact). But if youre unsure I would say dont risk it. Not an animal behaviourist by ANY means, I just really care about animals and Id like to say I know a bit about the basics 😅

[@laurenschenck5355]

The son so sweet and wants to learn and help so wonderful and good job 🥰

[@Lunatunanoodle]

I appreciate she said what CCD meant because it also means canine cognitive disease (doggie dementia)

[@julianeiheiser2347]

That’s why you never use a laser pointer with dogs! It’s detrimental

[@valkyriedarquese]

it's also bad for cats

[@somegirlthatwashere1982]

When I first met my girlfriend's family, they used a laser to entertain their two one-year-old pitbulls. When I first saw it happening, I immediately informed her about how detrimental it is to them, and her family stopped using it. Now, about 7 months later, they still haven't been using the laser and the pups are finally a little less uptight/expectant when you stand right where they know the pointer sits

[@mirawenya]

This is terrible. My dog has become obsessed with the reflection from the garden door. We’ve made the mistake of sometimes using it for play thinking he’d get bored with it or grow out of it. I had no idea before today how harmful it can be. He sat watching the wall for half an hour outside yesterday while I did chores. Clouds were moving across the sky so the sun came and went. Very worried.he’s 9 months old

[@rogue7723]

_Good thing_ they listened. I can only imagine what terrible things would happen if that continued

[@PeaceKitty]

​@@mirawenya I hope it works out OK for you and your pup. 🙏🐾

[@mirawenya]

@@PeaceKitty hey, thanks! He’s 18 months now, an all spring and summer we kept the glass on the door covered with a sheet to block the reflection. He still will look for the light some, and occasionally we accidentally forget it’s sunny and he sees it again. But he snaps out of it relatively quickly, so it’s not bad now. He can’t be in the garden at night cause the car lights are also making him chase. But anywhere else, light isn’t an issue. Odd, but thankful for that.

[@laurajimenez6482]

Thank you for showing something like this! I've been struggling to get my dog Boston terrier who struggles with the same thing for the same reason. We've worked hard with her but shadows and reflections are always a struggle and most trainers don't seem to understand what we are talking about. Cannot wait to see the results of this one.

[@reecedell3515]

How did it go?

[@mirawenya]

Did you manage to fix it?

[@englishwithrayah]

They didn't. Now the whole family is fixated on shadows and reflections.

[@laurajimenez6482]

@@mirawenya I wouldn't say it is fixed like any behavior issue it comes back. But she is able to snap out of it and come back and pay attention to us more often.

[@emilym3139]

Love love love this !!! The boy is so adorable and so mature 💙

[@SensaiGaia1]

Victoria is one of the people I look up to for inspiration. She's so good at what she does with the dog, and humans at the same time. It's amazing 😊❤️

[@birgittazandhers9257]

I love dogs even though I only have cats at home. I've found that some of the tips Victoria hands out also work well with cats. I've got one that chases shadows like a maniac and now I have some ideas on how to help him...

[@kolleraartem1156]

The paw asking for treat on their leeeeeg oh my lord

[@rogue7723]

Like, “Please, miss. I want some more” 😄

[@superanissaart4679]

When are you gonna have a Netflix show it’s so fun to watch your channel

[@robomnz]

funky my dog loves playing with the lazer she never fixates on the reflections and we give her a treat when she catches the dot and we also play with her alot via other means by playing hide n find as well as fetch! hide n find is similar to the cup game but you tell the dog to sit and stay and you go and hide treats around the house hidden but accessible to the dog such as behind door frames or beside furniture then after we have hidden the treats we say "go find" and watch/follow her as she dashes around finding treats by sniffing to find them around the house its so much fun! like an Easter egg hunt but for dogs!

[@robomnz]

we also rarely use the lazer pointer and instead play tug of war, hide n find as well as fetch the lazer pointer game we use to wear her out and only very rarely and we always give her a treat if she catches the dot and turn off the lazer so that she feels as if shes caught it and can feel proud snacking on a healthy bit of celery or carrot which she loves as treats

[@rosemiller4622]

I wish we could have seen more... and a follow up within this episode 😔... feels incomplete

[@xBriYeon]

SO SIMPLE BUT BRILLIANT TECHNIQUE, so appreciative of your work, Victoria!!!!!!!

[@b.appleby3772]

Thank you so much for this, my three year old mutt has this same problem with reflections due to family trying to play with her with a lazar when she was a pup. Your video are very helpful for dealing with her 💙

[@SuperLiesZ]

Such a fun video, learning something new with Victoria every time!

[@laurenschenck5355]

I love show so much I learn and everything so proud of you Victoria of everything you done for the world ❣️💞💗🌈💙💙💜💞✨✨✨⭐️💞💞❣️🌈💙💚💕💕💚💙🌈💗✨✨⭐️🧡🌟🌟✨✨💗❣️🌈💙💚💕💕💚💙♥️♥️💙💚💕🌈🌈♥️♥️

[@rachy4488]

Going to try this. My gsd stares and pounces at light reflections from phones or metal objects when we're outside

[@uii1764]

I only watch the new season of the show in YT's official channel, but brand new It's Me or the Dog seems really good! Interesting cases, educational info, and owners look sweet so far(at least they listen and follow Victoria's advices). It's lovely to watch it without worrying about the future of the dogs, sometimes owner's partner and children😅 So sad Discovery+ isn't available in Japan😭

[@bardnightingale]

I have been watching these and all sorts of other training videos. I can't find any video that will help me with the dog my sister asked me to take. Aladdin is a 10-years-old Shorkie poo, blind in one eye. He wasn't potty trained and had severe separation anxiety as well as a serious bark issue. We've got him potty trained. He no longer barks non-stop ... in fact, he is a very quiet dog now. I didn't want him, but with training he has turned into a wonderful companion. However, there is one big problem: he has a history of running away. We were careful, but one winter day, I was walking him with my walker and his leash slipped out of my hand. I wasn't fast enough to get it back and he ran off. It was a cold day and I was terrified his leash would get caught. I frantcally drove around looking for him. Fortunately, someone found him a block away, called and cuddled him until I could get there. Since then I have been trying to teach him to "come" for his safety and so I can take him to a dog park. We can't get past sit. He gets too excited during training. Even if you train after a walk. He literally becomes hyper and barks. I have to turn away until he calms and then start over. The rare times we've actually made it past sit and stay to "come," he won't come. No treat will induce him to come, nothing. He will just sit and stare. Any videos of dogs with similar inability to learn? What am I doing wrong? Is it a small dog issue? I've never trained a small dog. Bigger dogs seem so much quicker on the uptake.

[@sisterursuline]

Victoria has a video on here about a dog that wouldn’t come and would run away when given full rein, would be worth finding and watching. From memory she used big movements, high pitched noises and ran away from the dog, which initiated chase in the dog which could then be used to train recall. Basically trying to make returning to you as fun as possible.

[@Batwingx]

This happened to my dog we needed to give her away to someone but she is so much more happy:)

[@laurenschenck5355]

You are so inspiration Victoria 🧡💖🧡✨♥️♥️✨💜💞💜💚💚💕♥️🌈💙🌟💙💗❣️❣️⭐️💜💕💕💙💙💗💜💚💚💞💕

[@heathenwolf4997]

What breed or mix is she? If she is part herding, or all herding, that could be why. They were bred to be visual. Like the Border Collie, for example.

[@didimalangkemoeng3924]

i love this

[@c0untfagulaaz]

I love dogs

[@david-stevenmorris.4418]

"this is the Weirdest Disorder I've seen in a long time."

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Amazing video!😸

[@lil_devilgiggle]

My mom's dog Drizzet likes to attack our other dog named Pearl and our cat Misty he drags the cat by her neck {not her collar} to the other room. and attacks Pearl by biting and jumping non stop. I'm getting scared of this behavior because we have this girl dog named miley that does not like other animals. We were surprised she let them live with us.im afraid she will get in a bad fight with him when he gets older and one of them gets injured. He also likes to drag pearls by her leash when we are trying to get out the door with her to walk her. Do you possibly have any tips to train him?

[@lil_devilgiggle]

@Gail Everett Ok Thank you

[@TruHunter]

My German Shepard does the same the same thing and I’ve literally tried everything with him, I don’t know what else to do

[@laurenschenck5355]

Pour thing my heart ♥️ breaks for sweet dog 🐶 💕😍💙💖🐶💜🧡✨✨🧡💕💖💙💖💕❣️❤️❤️❤️💚💞💗🌟💕💖😍✨✨🌈💜♥️💜✨✨🧡💜♥️😍💙💖💕💕❣️🌟

[@jasonsoma2609]

Where can people in the U.S watch the new episodes?

[@reshmanair870]

lovely... ❤️

[@BoxerDog4life]

I didn’t know this, would a cat toy be okay for a dog? What are some healthy ways to play with a dog?

[@louisemansfield8134]

i know this couple... I, sure its hannah and Dan from journey south years?

[@jeanienweismann]

I had a pitbull that did the same thing we called him "skitz" 💞

[@livi6886]

Who else read about this in Victoria's book?!

[@jemmalabuschagne5587]

my dog does the same thing if she sees you have a phone she knows there will be a reflection and doesn't want to go outside just stays inside and waits for a light ...................

[@mirawenya]

Did this ever get better?

[@fairygrl999]

mine does this. it's been getting worse. he stops and won't move from literally his own shadow. idk what to do 🥲 im hoping it's just because we're unable to get out as much with the summer heat

[@Rock-jr3mn]

Poor dogs that have to deal with owners that don’t know how to take care of them

[@nadia_1237]

@@junkoslowed5074 they probably meant where the family got the dog from in Spain

[@emilym3139]

I hope you are referring to the dog’s previous owners in Spain

[@livi6886]

@@junkoslowed5074 A lot of the owners shown on this show are well meaning people who just didn't do enough research into proper dog training. This dog is NOT fine. The poor thing developed CCD as a result of improper training methods used by the previous owners. I believe what Rock said was a general statement about the majority of dogs and owners on this show, not an insult directed towards this family specifically.

[@HerHollyness]

Do they understand what a reflection is? The dog is looking at a patch of sunlight on the floor. That’s not really a reflection in the typical sense. It might be ‘reflected light’ but it’s not a reflection. I thought we were going to see a kind of narcissistic dog who stares in the mirror all day!

[@rainieskys]

Reflection: an amount of light, heat, or sound that is reflected by a body or surface. No worries, I was confused at first too.

[@starrynight8903]

A reflection isn't just looking in the mirror lol

[@cellano5223]

And this is why I will never use a laser pointer as a toy for any pet.

[@laurenschenck5355]

You are so beautiful gorgeous inside and out Victoria 💜🧡🧡⭐️💞💗✨💙💙♥️♥️🌈⭐️🧡🧡✨❣️💙🌈💙💙💙💕♥️💙🌟🧡🧡🧡💜❤️❤️💎💎⭐️💜🧡💗🌟🌟❣️♥️💕💙💙

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

I’m a good boy! I never naughty hardly ever! 😎🐶 my dad give me a treats sometimes but my favrit thing do is go to park or beach and play wiv other doggs! Or play wiv my ball 🥰🐶❤️

[@Kiwi_Tea]

Okay, we know Haize is nutty on reflections...yet she doesn't fixate on the spots of sunlight coming through the trees...would love to know why.

[@elizabeta2155]

Because it's not moving. She's fixated on 2D moving objects, because of the laser training. Pictures that are still are not a problem

[@Kiwi_Tea]

@@elizabeta2155 The sunlight should still set her off, especially if it's shining in through a tree or other thing that can move.

[@des01211]

I did an same to American bulldog

[@Maninawig]

Did not know a dog should not be trained with lasers...

[@emmarobinson7475]

DONT USE LASERS TO PLAY WITH DOGS OR CATS

[@1_Nhar]

✌🏽🐾✨

[@alexanderrudolph5729]

Today is my birthday

[@perrinemaurel1730]

Happy birthday ! May the year to come be filled with happiness !!!

[@ArtistsNook]

Happy birthday. Wishing you lots of happiness and good health 🙌

[@djsaintmusic7819]

Yo sweet mine too!

[@alexanderrudolph5729]

@@perrinemaurel1730 thank you

[@alexanderrudolph5729]

@@ArtistsNook thank you

[@oceanbreezeyy764]

What’s wrong with liking reflections? As long as the dog isn’t being hurt, I don’t see why it’s an issue.

[@starrynight8903]

It's an obsession. Obsessions are bad whatever they are since they can effect you both mentally and physically eventually.

[@koriandrstarfire9514]

I thought it was just because my dog was autistic, I didn't know my dog wasn't the only one who did this.

[@aim-to-misbehave5674]

There's another It's Me Or The Dog episode with a Gordon Setter called Max who had a CCD fixation on reflections, it seems more common than you'd think

[@rogue7723]

_Dogs_ can be born with autism too?

[@muymal6201]

Hey...just a reminder that God loves you so much. He cares about everything you're going through, so don't forget to seek Him wholeheartedly

[@00lol00]

Third

[@sujata_noddy]

First

[@mrbob28115]

Are people that ignorant to torment a animal with a laser?

[@melissagoodman1833]

They think it's cute, funny, and looks harmless. Most people do not realize that it causes these issues which is why education is important.

[@Cervidae]

victoria aged like milk

[@lynneufeld3175]

I love this show❤

[@DreamBelief]

A minor thing, but "obsession" in OCD is a huge misnomer. People think it means we just care a bit too much about something eg neat freak. It's not like that at all

[@siennacatherine35]

Exactlyyyyy you can’t help the fixation

[@laurenschenck5355]

Happy Saturday Victoria! 🌈🌈💜🌈✨✨🌈💜🌈✨✨🌈💜🌈✨✨💜🌈✨🌈💜✨

[@traceysouth1047]

speaking of OCD am I the only one wondering about her unique looking tail..

[@starrynight8903]

It was chopped.