Feature Focus - Evidentiality

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Biblaridion

Biblaridion

Күн бұрын

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@rex3782
@rex3782 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, as soon as I start working on a conlang there’s a new biblaridion video
@skyemorningstar166
@skyemorningstar166 5 жыл бұрын
the stars have aligned! it's like he knows lol
@randomperson288
@randomperson288 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@MURDERPILLOW.
@MURDERPILLOW. 10 ай бұрын
Keep starting conlangs! Go! Go! Go!
@iamasalad9080
@iamasalad9080 4 ай бұрын
@@MURDERPILLOW. Become a chronic restarter!
@MarcHarder
@MarcHarder 5 жыл бұрын
This sounded weird to me at first but then I remember that my native language has a suffix that means something like "you should already know that" or "I shouldn't need to say this"
@terdragontra8900
@terdragontra8900 4 жыл бұрын
what language is that?
@MarcHarder
@MarcHarder 4 жыл бұрын
@@terdragontra8900 Plautdietsch
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 4 жыл бұрын
A condescension/bad exposition suffix, nice.
@elias.t
@elias.t 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like how the Swedish word "ju" works. It's really dang hard to explain as a native speaker, because it can be used in so many different ways depending on context, but it always relates to some obvious or presumed common knowledge.
@MarcHarder
@MarcHarder 2 жыл бұрын
@@elias.t Maybe they're cognates 'cause the Plautdietsch suffix is /jə/
@pollinationtechnician7553
@pollinationtechnician7553 2 жыл бұрын
"all languages are capable of encoding the same information" cries in piraha
@itsMeKvman
@itsMeKvman 2 ай бұрын
i mean, you can say "five" by saying "the quantity of fingers on my hand", and you can say "red" by saying "like blood", so...
@leem4386
@leem4386 5 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much! Even though I’m not myself trying to create a conlang, it’s really interesting and kinda calming. Thanks Bib
@harry_page
@harry_page 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering whether your name is a reference to time-riders or if it's just coincidence
@leem4386
@leem4386 5 жыл бұрын
harys_john I actually have no idea what you’re talking about, is there a fictional character called Liam o Connor?
@harry_page
@harry_page 5 жыл бұрын
@@leem4386 Wow, what are the odds of that? Yeah he's a time traveller in an agency that tries to protect history, it's a pretty good book although a bit confusing
@xX_wiLLiam_Xx
@xX_wiLLiam_Xx 5 жыл бұрын
SEAMUS O'CONNOR
@marbleswan6664
@marbleswan6664 5 жыл бұрын
I have been watching conlang videos for years. I started with artefexian, watched some conlang critic, the xidnaf, and then I found you, honestly not sure how I didnt find you earlier. I made a "Conlang" a while ago, but it ended up just another english spelling reform, though I still use it just for the aesthetic. I made a few scripts I still love and use, but I am now making a conlang for a school project that I could choose. Thank you to you all, you gave me a target for a minor, (Linguistics!) I am going to major in mathematics though. (Still a HS sophomore)
@ludvis6772
@ludvis6772 5 жыл бұрын
MarbleSwan666 Doing the exact same thing! I’m majoring in Mathematics and minoring in English! Currently in 11th grade (?) (I’m British Idk)
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 5 жыл бұрын
Check out Jordan Peterson, his channel has good conlanging stuff
@sourestcake
@sourestcake 5 жыл бұрын
@@oz_jones David Peterson, you mean.
@volvagianintendo6465
@volvagianintendo6465 2 жыл бұрын
Bide, @@oz_jones, is Jordan soothly what the J. in David J. Peterson standeth for?
@josefwolanczyk4866
@josefwolanczyk4866 5 жыл бұрын
I happen to love Turkish, so thank you very much indeed!
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 3 жыл бұрын
Poland?
@josefwolanczyk4866
@josefwolanczyk4866 3 жыл бұрын
@@wtc5198 To a degree. It's complicated.
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 жыл бұрын
miş is used with other tenses too. geliyormuş= (i heard that) he is coming gelecekmiş =(i heard that) he will come gelmişti =(i heard that) he had come geldiydi= (i saw that ) he had come gelirmiş=(i heard that) he comes ---- Dır/tir suffix can be used to make guess. For example, John nerededir? = what do you guess about where john is? yoldadır = i guess he is on way. Geliyordur = i guess he is coming. Turkish also uses miş with “tir” to make guess about what may have happened in past. They do not know what happened but only guess. For example. Gelmiştir. = i guess he came./i guess he has come -- Combination with past and past gittiydi =( i saw ) he had gone. Tom gelmeden, john gittiydi.= john had god before Tom came. (I was at home when john went. So i saw that john went.I also saw that Tom came later) -- Combination with miş and past. gitmişti = (i heard/realized later) he had gone., (I was not at home when he went. But when i m back to home, i realized that he is not home. ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Combined tenses with unwithnessed tense(mış,miş,muş,müş) 1-Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present continuous tense (yor) yormuş *if you add one more "muş" again "yormuşmuş" this means you do not believe it. 2- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present simple tense (ar,er,ır,ir,ur,ür) armış, ermiş, ırmış, irmiş, urmuş, ürmüş *if you add one more "mış,miş,muş,müş" again this means you do not believe it. armışmış, ermişmiş, ırmışmış, irmişmiş, urmuşmuş, ürmüşmüş 3- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The future tense (ecek,acak) ecekmiş, acakmış *if you add one more "mış,miş" again this means you do not believe it. ecekmişmiş, acakmışmış 4- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The unwithnessed tense (mış,miş,muş,müş) mışmış, mişmiş, muşmuş, müşmüş (this tense means you do not believe the reported thing)
@giacarc
@giacarc 4 жыл бұрын
In Italian we can use the future tense to express a kind of dubitative form, so for example if someone asks you where Paul is, you could answer "sarà a scuola" (lit. "he will be at school") if you're not sure
@annikathewitch3950
@annikathewitch3950 Жыл бұрын
One of my conlangs only marks evidentiality in the future tense, because when future vision is common, it's useful to know whether someone assumes something will happen from context, plans to make it happen, or saw that it will happen.
@viracocha6093
@viracocha6093 5 жыл бұрын
Will there be a video on head-marking or polypersonal agreement?
@masturchyf8536
@masturchyf8536 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he makes one because I have no idea what those are
@Myrus_MBG
@Myrus_MBG 5 жыл бұрын
Those topics are covered in Syntax and Grammatical Evolutions respectively in his “How to make a Conlang” series. Head-marking I don’t see much he can add, and I guess he could elaborate on polypersonal agreement but those videos cover them pretty well.
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 3 жыл бұрын
There is one now
@ConlangKrishna
@ConlangKrishna 5 жыл бұрын
Well done! I finally got some order in my knowledge about evidentials.
@qotuzin
@qotuzin 5 жыл бұрын
More feature focus please!! love these kinds of videos so much! Maybe do some on formality, grammatical gender, and polynysynthetic languages.
@TikoVerhelst
@TikoVerhelst 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, literally the only video I could find explaining evidentiality in Bulgarian! Which was what I needed. The other stuff was interesting as well. ;)
@pyros6139
@pyros6139 Жыл бұрын
With how misinformation spreads in the modern era and how people misunderstand what science, facts, and evidence are, I think we would all gain something from using evidentiality.
@deepsolar169
@deepsolar169 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, would it be possible for you to do a video on creole languages? Thanks!
@MapleKnight1234
@MapleKnight1234 5 жыл бұрын
lol on first-person evidentials: I think sarcasm would make a fantastic use for those as well
@aspermwhalespontaneouslyca8938
@aspermwhalespontaneouslyca8938 8 ай бұрын
In Bulgarian you can hear the sentence "Бил съм се бил напил и съм се бил сбил." with some regularity. The proper translation would be "Evidently I've gotten drunk even though I don't remember it and they say I've gotten in a fight."
@hansmorktopphol901
@hansmorktopphol901 5 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe make a feature focus on gender/noun class systems?
@Zol_1312
@Zol_1312 5 жыл бұрын
The voice recognition on my phone thought I said "I blood on" instead of biblaridion. Every. Single. Time. -.-
@fahlinoz7259
@fahlinoz7259 5 жыл бұрын
It has been over a year since the first episode of the “making a language” series. Is there anything that you’d change or add to that series?
@trafo60
@trafo60 5 жыл бұрын
In German, modal verbs double up as evidentiality markers. "Werden" can be used for inferential evidence, and "sollen" for hearsay. This is often overlooked in grammars of German, as "werden" is usually seen as the future auxiliary (which it isn't; German doesn't have a proper future tense).
@blauesserpiroyal2887
@blauesserpiroyal2887 5 жыл бұрын
In which way do we have no proper future?
@trafo60
@trafo60 5 жыл бұрын
@@blauesserpiroyal2887 Basically, any statement about the future can be expressed using the present tense: Im kommenden Jahr finden die Wahlen zum US-Präsidenten statt. Wenn ich mein Studium abgeschlossen habe, gehe ich ins Ausland. The modal verb "werden" conveys a degree of uncertainty. Naturally, it's frequently used to describe future events, since the future is by definition uncertain. Compare the sentences "Morgen wird es regnen" vs "Morgen regnet es". The latter sounds more assertive. I feel like you would use the former most of the time, since you can never know for sure whether it will rain tomorrow. Similarly with the above example: if you would say "...werde ich in Ausland gehen", it would sound more like you're expressing your intention; with the present, it sounds like it's a fixed plan.
@blauesserpiroyal2887
@blauesserpiroyal2887 5 жыл бұрын
@@trafo60 oh, that makes sense. Danke
@skyworm8006
@skyworm8006 4 жыл бұрын
@@trafo60 Yes I find Standard Grammars to be really shit even at describing the so-called standard language never mind dialects.
@SergioSovi
@SergioSovi Жыл бұрын
"Wollen" is also used as reportive evidential: "er will seine Hausaufgaben gemacht haben" - "he claims that he has already done his homework".
@arthurchrzanowski5785
@arthurchrzanowski5785 5 жыл бұрын
I hate to sound like Thandian, but I’m adding optional evidentiality to my conlang now.
@incredulity
@incredulity 5 жыл бұрын
Dont
@GravityGrid
@GravityGrid 5 жыл бұрын
@@incredulity Why?
@incredulity
@incredulity 5 жыл бұрын
@@GravityGrid Cause
@masicbemester
@masicbemester 4 жыл бұрын
Artorius Rex Same here
@rafaelarevalo8047
@rafaelarevalo8047 5 жыл бұрын
What a masterfully put-together lesson, complete with examples and everything. Your channel introduced me to Guy Deutscher's Unfolding of Language, which then prompted me to read Through the Language Glass, where I imagine you got some of the introduction from. ;-) These videos are an invaluable contribution to Linguistics, and I'd just like to thank you for making KZbin a better, more rich platform. Looking forward to seeing you tackle more subjects in the future. Cheers!! PS: Not sure if you've addressed this previously, but I'd like to know where you get the info from─some of these languages are pretty obscure (Tsafiki, Tariana, etc.), so sources on where I'd be able to read more would be awfully appreciated.
@flightlesswizard
@flightlesswizard Жыл бұрын
Turkish is definitely, without a doubt, the best language. This is the best video I have ever seen.
@SomeTomfoolery
@SomeTomfoolery 5 жыл бұрын
So glad to see this series isn't over!
@Kingstar1139
@Kingstar1139 4 жыл бұрын
In one of my conlangs there is an evidential that I call the "orthogrative" that conveys that the speaker read about the information or got it from some form of text. Would like to know people's thoughts on this.
@Kingstar1139
@Kingstar1139 4 жыл бұрын
Basically I would translate it as "I read that" or something to that effect. So a sentence might be translated as "(I read that) your father went to jail" P.S: For those curious the conlang translation is "Selora beno gazhu po vilintacho". Literally, "go-past.perf.-orth. father-sing.-nom. you-sing.-gen. def-sing-article prison-sing.-all" Se= "to go" "-l" = past perfective "-ora" = orthogrative Beno= "father/dad" Ga= 2nd person singular pronoun "-zhu" = genitive Po= singular definite article Vilinta= "jail/prison" "-cho" = allative
@kadenvanciel9335
@kadenvanciel9335 Жыл бұрын
I looked into evidentiality recently, and no language can exist without it at all. Just because a language doesn't have markings and/or whatnot for evidentials doesn't mean it doesn't have evidentials at all.
@stutavagrippa8690
@stutavagrippa8690 5 жыл бұрын
I think in one of your videos you mentioned Edun. You should do a video on it cause you got me interested.
@retvolution
@retvolution 5 жыл бұрын
Huh strange I'm a native lithuanian speaker but I never heard the phrase 'jo rašoma laiškas' anywhere... Idk I feel like the more common version would be 'jo rašomas laiškas'
@pauliustamasiunas2251
@pauliustamasiunas2251 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Ptaku93
@Ptaku93 5 жыл бұрын
Could be a typo on Biblaridion's part, or an error in his sources
@retvolution
@retvolution 5 жыл бұрын
Ptaku93 Yeah maybe I mean idk maybe it's correct It's not a form we use a lot anyways so I don't know that much about it
@eufalesio1146
@eufalesio1146 5 жыл бұрын
my language handles evidentiality and mirarity with particles, which came not from words, but from interjections, even tho it’s optional dow: rumored facts “dow adubike ne.” (They say that it’s raining.) woho: obvious facts “woho adubike ne.” (Of course it’s raining, duh) pwe: unexpected facts “pwe adubike ne.” (Apparently it’s raining.) ga: intense emotion “adubike ne ga!” (Wow, it’s raining!) um: possible facts “um adubike ne” (Maybe it’s raining.)
@trafo60
@trafo60 5 жыл бұрын
This is rather like Japanese sentence-final particles
@MatiasRodriguez-eo7tb
@MatiasRodriguez-eo7tb 5 жыл бұрын
On a flip-S conlang (I guess they're called as that, but I mean those languages which change the subject of an intransitive verb from the Agent to the Patient to mark involuntary and voluntary if it's the reverse), could it be possible to evolve the pacient pronouns and now they mark a "non-firsthand", plus the person? At least the conjugated forms of them, and later transitive verbs take those "Pacient Conjugation" (If they mark the Agent) as the evidential one. Ithoug this because of the 6:36 minute, when you said that "(Apparently) I've arrived" it's used like involuntary mark. I'm just doing the reverse of this and with all pronouns. Later of this, because the conjugated system is which has changed, the pronouns just keep their job as pronouns.
@rub8576
@rub8576 5 жыл бұрын
When is the alien biosphere part 3 video coming out?
@calebr7199
@calebr7199 5 жыл бұрын
Soon, soon
@elizabethsullivan1894
@elizabethsullivan1894 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for it too! I imagine it's a massive amount of work to do all the research and get all the graphics though.
@xX_wiLLiam_Xx
@xX_wiLLiam_Xx 5 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethsullivan1894 hfb
@Thomaas551
@Thomaas551 4 жыл бұрын
Soon
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 жыл бұрын
Combined tenses with unwithnessed tense(mış,miş,muş,müş) 1- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The unwithnessed tense (mış,miş,muş,müş) mışmış, mişmiş, muşmuş, müşmüş (this tense means you do not believe the reported thing) I have heard that He came = Gelmiş I have heard that He came But I do not believe it = Gelmişmiş 2-Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present continuous tense (yor) yormuş I have heard that he is coming= geliyormuş *if you add one more "muş" again "yormuşmuş" this means you do not believe it. I have heard that he is coming but i do not believe it = geliyormuşmuş. 3- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present simple tense (r,ar,er,ır,ir,ur,ür) armış, ermiş, ırmış, irmiş, urmuş, ürmüş I have heard that he used to get up early= Erken kalkarmış *if you add one more "mış,miş,muş,müş" again this means you do not believe it. armışmış, ermişmiş, ırmışmış, irmişmiş, urmuşmuş, ürmüşmüş I have heard that he used to get up early but I do not believe it= Erken kalkarmışmış 4- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The future tense (ecek,acak) ecekmiş, acakmış Gelecekmiş = I have heard that he will come *if you add one more "mış,miş" again this means you do not believe it. ecekmişmiş, acakmışmış Gelecekmişmiş = I have heard that he will come but I do not believe it.
@Osz6
@Osz6 Жыл бұрын
EVET
@Osz6
@Osz6 Жыл бұрын
@@PimsleurTurkishLessons aslında düşününce o kadar da yanlış değildi, -mışmış diyen biri kendisine denilenden şüphe ediyordur, değil mi? Ayrıca, yazında eksik bir kullanım daha var bence; bir kişi ona, o da bize söylemişse de ek tekrarlanabilir
@Osz6
@Osz6 Жыл бұрын
tam olarak nerede diyor acaba
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons Жыл бұрын
@@Osz6 5:30'da miş anlamının geçmiş zaman anlamına geldiğini söylüyor. tamam miş tek başına kullanıldığında o anlama gelebilir de, zamandan bağımsız sadece "duyma, sonradan öğrenme" anlamına da geliyor. mesela "gelecekmiş = i have heard that she s going to come., gelirmiş gibi. buralarda miş en sonda. fakat mişti derken miş önce ti sonra. çünkü onun gitmiş olduğunu o giderken görmedin. o kısım mişli. fakat sonradan onun orada olmadığını gözünle gördün o kısım görülen geçmiş zaman eki "ti". mesela eve geldin evin soyulduğunu farkettin. bunu arkadaşına anlatıyorsun. o da diyor ki hırsızı yakalayabildin mi sen de diyorsun ki, hayır ben geldiğimde o çoktan gitmişti. - bir de dıydı, tıydı zaman var. geçmişin geçmişi. mesela sen bir düğündesin, nikah kıyıldı nikah memuru ayrıldı. bunları gördün. sonra birisi düğüne geç geldi, sana nikah memurunun nerede olduğunu sordu. sen de ona dedin ki, " sen gelmeden o gittiydi." onun gelmesi geçmiş zaman, memurun gitmesi geçmiş zamandan önceki bir geçmiş zamanda gerçekleşti. sen bunların her birini gördün. hem memurun gittiğini hem de birinin düğüne geç geldiğini gördün." ikisini de görülen geçmiş zamanla söylersin.
@Osz6
@Osz6 Жыл бұрын
​@@PimsleurTurkishLessons anladım fakat video'da öyle bir kullanımı olmadığını söylemiyor, ekin tek başına hem geçmiş zamanı hem de eki kullananın olaya şahit olmadığını belirtiğini, düz geçmiş zaman ekiyle kullanıldığında öncesinin öncesinden bahsedilğini anlatıyor . Yani ekin tüm özelliklerinden bahsetmek istememiş olabilir çünkü video kendi dillerini yaratmak isteyen insanlar için çeşitli doğal dillerdeki çeşitli örnekleri sunuyor, eminim video içinde türkçeden yeterince örnek verdiği/vereceği için daha detaylı anlatmamıştır :D
@LinguarumFautor
@LinguarumFautor 5 жыл бұрын
This video has prompted me to reconsider the evidential patterns in my conlang Siye. The suffix -yosa- + irrealis mood + positive polarity means "supposedly" - it's a semantic Dubitative that emerged from a grammatical Indirect via extreme cynicism. Its counterpart (currently labeled Energetic "certainly"), -yosa- + irrealis mood + negative polarity, indicates the speaker's Direct evidence, but due to its derivation as a negative of the Indirect, nonetheless takes irrealis mood.
@codyhodges1968
@codyhodges1968 5 жыл бұрын
Where do genders and other noun classes derive from?
@benjamindine2474
@benjamindine2474 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about a feature that I would like to put in my conlang and I was hoping you can talk about it. That feature is vowel harmonization.
@Schinkenscheisser
@Schinkenscheisser 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your videos! Do you think you could give any adivce on constructing languages from currently existing ones? Specifically, I'm thinking about constructing a language for a post-apocalyptic worldbuilding... thing, based on two languages I know (to some extent). Because I'm a boring European, that'll just end up being a boring Indo-European something, at most with some Hungarian, Turkish, and/or Arab admixture, but still, do you have any advice at all? (I'm not expecting you to make a whole video about it, any advice at all in written form would suffice)
@learnlibyanarabic8760
@learnlibyanarabic8760 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, very insightful!
@0Aquamelon
@0Aquamelon 5 жыл бұрын
What if you’re commanding someone, or saying what will happen because you’re going to make it happen? Do they get their own evidential markers, or should they be left unmarked.
@redrolacitebahpla
@redrolacitebahpla 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@elizabethsullivan1894
@elizabethsullivan1894 5 жыл бұрын
Cool spotlight on something we don't have in English, thanks!
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 2 жыл бұрын
Idea - you could use voice to convey evidentiality. For example, 'He broke the lamp' suggests certainty, 'the lamp was broken by him' could suggest inference. Add irrealis mood to that and you already have four different evidentiality registers! Anything that legitimizes the passive voice is going to get my approval
@jeremiahstevens5259
@jeremiahstevens5259 2 жыл бұрын
What marking would the narrator's voice use in a novel written in an evidential language? How do they recount tales and stories?
@nickjayyoung7662
@nickjayyoung7662 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video that explores how adverbs come about? And how would one restructure (or reorder) the words of one language into a different language - let's say how would one translated a SVO sentence into an OSV or a VOS sentence, and how does one distinguish from direct object and indirect object?
@GewoonRemcoCW
@GewoonRemcoCW 5 жыл бұрын
So, you probably are already doing this, but could it be possible to make more videos like this? Just certain terms to help understanding how languages work, since I am working on a conling via your videos, but am kinda stuck on some of the forms like causative and so on...
@miiiiiiiiiiii
@miiiiiiiiiiii 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video :)
@sebamkfan
@sebamkfan 5 жыл бұрын
Nice timing, I was just watching one of your videos! Keep up the awesome content.
@sanjithsaravanan8469
@sanjithsaravanan8469 4 жыл бұрын
actually tamil also has a "it seems that" distinction in evidentiality ! example - he ate - saptaan apparently he ate - saptaan-aam (in written and colloqial) / saaptaan-aamaa (in colloqial only) it seems that he ate - saptaan-pozhirku (in colloqial and written) / saptaan-aatirku (in colloqial only)
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Biblaridion talked about Tamil in his "My top 10 favorite languages"
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 5 жыл бұрын
I'm learning something about my language! Yaay!
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 2 жыл бұрын
What about for sentences that are false?
@jennykim556
@jennykim556 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do more showcases?
@LinguaPhiliax
@LinguaPhiliax 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the Mangarrayi and Gooniyandi examples?
@msolec2000
@msolec2000 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. How would one design a language continuum?
@Duiker36
@Duiker36 5 жыл бұрын
What's a language continuum?
@yeetyeet-jb6nc
@yeetyeet-jb6nc 4 жыл бұрын
@@Duiker36 example : person A understands person B person B understands person C person A does not understand person C
@marykong6683
@marykong6683 3 жыл бұрын
Apply some sound changes that only apply to some speakers
@castillelarkin
@castillelarkin 2 жыл бұрын
My friend and fellow scholar, if only you would reveal your name and your sources! Than I could use this presentation and cite it in my Master's-level course project. Lots of really great information here, both for boots-on-the-ground linguists and conlangers.
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 жыл бұрын
miş is used with other tenses too. geliyormuş= (i heard that) he is coming gelecekmiş =(i heard that) he will come gelmişti =(i heard that) he had come geldiydi= (i saw that ) he had come gelirmiş=(i heard that) he comes ---- Dır/tir suffix can be used to make guess. For example, John nerededir? = what do you guess about where john is? yoldadır = i guess he is on way. Geliyordur = i guess he is coming. Turkish also uses miş with “tir” to make guess about what may have happened in past. They do not know what happened but only guess. For example. Gelmiştir. = i guess he came./i guess he has come -- Combination with past and past gittiydi =( i saw ) he had gone. Tom gelmeden, john gittiydi.= john had god before Tom came. (I was at home when john went. So i saw that john went.I also saw that Tom came later) -- Combination with miş and past. gitmişti = (i heard/realized later) he had gone., (I was not at home when he went. But when i m back to home, i realized that he is not home. ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Combined tenses with unwithnessed tense(mış,miş,muş,müş) 1-Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present continuous tense (yor) yormuş *if you add one more "muş" again "yormuşmuş" this means you do not believe it. 2- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present simple tense (ar,er,ır,ir,ur,ür) armış, ermiş, ırmış, irmiş, urmuş, ürmüş *if you add one more "mış,miş,muş,müş" again this means you do not believe it. armışmış, ermişmiş, ırmışmış, irmişmiş, urmuşmuş, ürmüşmüş 3- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The future tense (ecek,acak) ecekmiş, acakmış *if you add one more "mış,miş" again this means you do not believe it. ecekmişmiş, acakmışmış 4- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The unwithnessed tense (mış,miş,muş,müş) mışmış, mişmiş, muşmuş, müşmüş (this tense means you do not believe the reported thing)
@nikolay4101-s7r
@nikolay4101-s7r 7 ай бұрын
In Bulgarian we have thus funny tongue twister "Bil sum se bil napil i sum se bil bil" (I had gotten drunk and fought + doubt), where the word "bil" is used both to apply the doubt (to both having gotten drunk and having fought) ("bil" 2 and 3)AND to apply past perfect to the verb "to get drunk" ("bil 1") AND as a plain verb "to fight" (bil 4).
@thewalkingforest5185
@thewalkingforest5185 5 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one a little caught off guard with the map at 1:50 with the new world being in the right side?
@majarimennamazerinth5753
@majarimennamazerinth5753 5 жыл бұрын
Individual affixes for evidentiality always seem over-complicated and weirdly specific until you try to pin an exact definition on the words we use in English. What's the difference between 'allegedly' and 'apparently'? How much overlap is there?
@EvilParagon4
@EvilParagon4 5 жыл бұрын
wut Random Roma St Station cameo at 6:23. I didn't expect this while watching a language video.
@mambooooooo917
@mambooooooo917 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on ergativity (:
@armchairrocketscientist4934
@armchairrocketscientist4934 5 жыл бұрын
Are you still doing the series on alien biospheres?
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 3 жыл бұрын
There's an 11th episode now
@armchairrocketscientist4934
@armchairrocketscientist4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@wtc5198 I am aware.
@matt.s9607
@matt.s9607 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video dude!!
@araknus7863
@araknus7863 5 жыл бұрын
How do you say hello in Thandian?
@PRGME7
@PRGME7 5 жыл бұрын
Araknus2002 fuck if I know
@juliangoulette7600
@juliangoulette7600 5 жыл бұрын
When will the next Conlang Showcase be?
@40watt53
@40watt53 5 ай бұрын
3:40 they have their own language now???
@felicvik9456
@felicvik9456 4 жыл бұрын
4:50 laiškas needs to be in the genitivs not in nominAtive in the second sentence
@pauleugenio5914
@pauleugenio5914 2 жыл бұрын
Ben biraz yeni Türkçe öğrenmiş 😂 😎 teşekkür
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 жыл бұрын
miş is used with other tenses too. geliyormuş= (i heard that) he is coming gelecekmiş =(i heard that) he will come gelmişti =(i heard that) he had come geldiydi= (i saw that ) he had come gelirmiş=(i heard that) he comes ---- Dır/tir suffix can be used to make guess. For example, John nerededir? = what do you guess about where john is? yoldadır = i guess he is on way. Geliyordur = i guess he is coming. Turkish also uses miş with “tir” to make guess about what may have happened in past. They do not know what happened but only guess. For example. Gelmiştir. = i guess he came./i guess he has come -- Combination with past and past gittiydi =( i saw ) he had gone. Tom gelmeden, john gittiydi.= john had god before Tom came. (I was at home when john went. So i saw that john went.I also saw that Tom came later) -- Combination with miş and past. gitmişti = (i heard/realized later) he had gone., (I was not at home when he went. But when i m back to home, i realized that he is not home. ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Combined tenses with unwithnessed tense(mış,miş,muş,müş) 1-Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present continuous tense (yor) yormuş *if you add one more "muş" again "yormuşmuş" this means you do not believe it. 2- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The present simple tense (ar,er,ır,ir,ur,ür) armış, ermiş, ırmış, irmiş, urmuş, ürmüş *if you add one more "mış,miş,muş,müş" again this means you do not believe it. armışmış, ermişmiş, ırmışmış, irmişmiş, urmuşmuş, ürmüşmüş 3- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The future tense (ecek,acak) ecekmiş, acakmış *if you add one more "mış,miş" again this means you do not believe it. ecekmişmiş, acakmışmış 4- Unwithnessed tense's combination with The unwithnessed tense (mış,miş,muş,müş) mışmış, mişmiş, muşmuş, müşmüş (this tense means you do not believe the reported thing)
@pauleugenio5914
@pauleugenio5914 2 жыл бұрын
@@PimsleurTurkishLessons senin videolarin harika --teşekkürler! (/^o^)/
@PimsleurTurkishLessons
@PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauleugenio5914 beğendiğinize sevindim. Sağ olunuz.
@josefwolanczyk4866
@josefwolanczyk4866 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately your accent really needs a bit of work (for Turkish), but I appreciate the inclusion nonetheless...
@thumper8684
@thumper8684 5 жыл бұрын
Could sarcasm be expressed this way?
@selincankat4591
@selincankat4591 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it can. "Sınavı kazanacakmış da üniversiteye girecekmiş." (Turkish, if you haven't realized) means sarcastically "(S)he will win the exam and go to university." You have to put a "da/de" (too) if you're talking about causality. Also, there is no such things as "gitmişmişler" 7:45.
@phoenixfoster-smith8585
@phoenixfoster-smith8585 5 жыл бұрын
better get those notes ready
@MisterSketch4
@MisterSketch4 5 жыл бұрын
Please do alien biospheres part three!
@ioratv
@ioratv 5 жыл бұрын
Bayraklar asılmamış
@paleomiguel
@paleomiguel 5 жыл бұрын
ALIENS PART 3
@_pink_clovers
@_pink_clovers 5 жыл бұрын
I wish English had this. Being a Pyrrhonian would be so much easier lol 😂
@_pink_clovers
@_pink_clovers 5 жыл бұрын
@@nexusanphans3813 no the desire is purely selfish and I understand that, I literally only want it so I don't have to keep clarifying my niche philosophical views on epistimology lol
@skyworm8006
@skyworm8006 4 жыл бұрын
@@_pink_clovers Just use adverbs a lot. I use 'apparently' way too much but I'm pretty sure marking evidentiality a lot is allowed in English it's just not mandatory and grammaticalised. Be the change you want to see in the language lol.
@morthim
@morthim 5 жыл бұрын
nice
@gwho
@gwho 4 жыл бұрын
evidentiality is not that bizarrely specific. ever hear of lying? yeah. it helps reign that in and get people to state their sources. all humans lie. therefore all evidentiality is a reasonable construct.
@JohndoeBlocks
@JohndoeBlocks Жыл бұрын
You can literally just lie about the Source
@yudaisensei2020
@yudaisensei2020 5 жыл бұрын
Just like Turkish, Classical Japanese also had two types of past tense: ki and keri. ari "to be, to have" ari-ki "was/were, had(speaker's firsthand experience)" ari-keri "was/were, had(apparently)" Hajime ni kotoba ari-ki. "In the beginning was the Word." Ima-wa mukashi, Taketori no Okina to iu mono ari-keri. "Once upon a time, there lived/was a man called Taketori no Okina." Modern Japanese has lost both of them, and the verb-ending "ta", which represents past tense in Modern Japanese, is derived from "tari", which used to represent perfect aspect.
@HoneydewBeach
@HoneydewBeach 5 жыл бұрын
I only know about this feature because of Laadan
@desia.brimou
@desia.brimou 4 жыл бұрын
ok same
@yeetyeet-jb6nc
@yeetyeet-jb6nc 4 жыл бұрын
@@desia.brimou friend dealer?
@desia.brimou
@desia.brimou 4 жыл бұрын
@@yeetyeet-jb6nc yes?
@rogerjames5600
@rogerjames5600 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for the alien biosphere 3 for a month. I check my phone this morning, still none. I got thr notifitlcation for this video, and super excited until I saw what iy was. Still a good video, though, I guess.
@gaiangalaxy3198
@gaiangalaxy3198 5 жыл бұрын
ALIEN BIOSPHERES 3
@Релёкс84
@Релёкс84 3 жыл бұрын
IT's a nice and complete video, but it would have been slightly better if you mentioned that contrary to most of your examples might convey, evidentiality is not limited to obscure languages and Turkish: it appears in much more famimliar languages (to an English speaker) too, and the part on repurposed verbal morphology would have been perfect for that: many Romance languages use the future tense (Spanish/Italian) or the conditional (French) to expressed something you don't have first hand evidence of. In fact, it's recommended in French language journalistic ethics to always use the conditional in an article about a research paper that doesn't have conclusive results, so as not to spread potentially incorrect facts.
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid but it's BASH-kun GEL-di, not Basshkun Geldy.
@mambooooooo917
@mambooooooo917 5 жыл бұрын
Ipa?
@turkishraccoon
@turkishraccoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@mambooooooo917 /baʃkʰan.g̟ɛldi/
@yeetyeet-jb6nc
@yeetyeet-jb6nc 4 жыл бұрын
@@turkishraccoon What is weird mix between broad and narrow transcription?
@turkishraccoon
@turkishraccoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@yeetyeet-jb6nc What?
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