Feature: New Order (Electronic Beats TV)

"We didn't care if we were successful or not."
NEW ORDER feature, taken from Slices Issue 2-12.
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[@saund102]

barney could tear you to pieces with his guitar while ian's plaintive wail and sublime lyrics could make your hair stand on end. the drummer was out of this world.

[@DrLazerbeam]

are you Barney? because how you mentioned Joy Division individual parts with mentioning Hook is frankly astounding. I hope in the three years since you made this comment, you have been imprisoned.

[@francisaypa267]

I LIKE THEM SO MUCH !!! MY BEST BAND EVER !!! NEW ORDER

[@thestr8person]

So pleased new order were the main soundtrack of my youth! They made the eighties cool as.. 🙌

[@dpiedra1520]

Every band goes through periodic changes ... Hooky leaving is the first major change in over 30 years. They are still New Order although no one will ever replace Hooky's stage presence and bass playing. NO ONE! Can't wait to see 'em in October in Toronto!

[@aus80srockradio94]

This is wonderful, one of the BEST of the BEST band's of all time.

[@JRStephens5005]

New Order and Joy Division had two different audiences, I think. I can't recall many who love both equally. I prefer Joy Division every time.

[@trashcanhands19]

Amen, brother...

[@robertbrown8362]

agreed

[@sunsetman22]

Paul Metzger Not me. I'm capable of loving both bands equally, hell, I even consider them the same band but with a different style.

[@hedgehog1965uk]

Same here. I've been a Joy Division fan since hearing Unknown Pleasures in 1980 at the age of 14, but until a few days ago I'd never even heard of Gillian Gilbert and I just assumed that Hooky was still with the band. I recently listened to Hooky's audiobook about Joy Division and have spent the last few days listening to Peter Hook and The Light's live releases of Joy Division material, and love it.

[@tomatedesign1976]

Strange that, anyone I know who liked Joy Division blended seamlessly into New Order fandom. Movement seemed like a natural musical progression from Closer, it was just missing Ians lyrical prowess.

[@charlesdraven2918]

Stephen is quite the story teller 🖤😏🤣

[@jsimmonsd]

Gillian has such a lovely voice....which she had said more in the video. And she still looks so good for her age. You rock Gillian.

[@itec745]

Besides Peter Hook Bass Guitar sound, Stephen Morris drumming style also add to the band's music.

[@gelymind]

Amazing ! Thank's Electronic Beats for Slices DVD with New Order !!!!

[@nunogui]

No Hooky, no New Order. I agreed.

[@FeelGoodInspiration]

That's silly because he did not want to be part of New Order.

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

He quit because he's difficult to be around

[@djh29971]

Post Factory, New Order did lose their relevance and certainly turned into a rock and roll band (comparatively) once Gillian left. It became a bit of a boys club. Gillian coming back was a good move and I would rather have her in the band than Hook if I had to choose between the two. Whatever they do now, they still achieved more than 99% of bands since their inception as Joy Division.

[@revol148]

what did Gillian contribute to the band as off the top of my head I can think of nothing?

[@paulheap1982]

@@revol148 well you're an idiot then.

[@nicodelfine5194]

Great great band! 😎💪

[@whittaks215]

Barnet’s ego is out of control. 😳😂🍺

[@alanbeneventi4854]

major egotistical nar·cis·sist

[@fraserconnell21]

Yup. They ain't the band they were without Peter hook. He's really down to earth and deserves more respect from the other members,of new order

[@Charmingman93]

Try telling that to Mark E Smith of the Fall whether or not his band sounds like the Fall any more after 40 odd members later.

[@kevcatnip7589]

you can if you want

[@etherealcatholic5711]

Death toured for 1 year without any original members in 89/90.

[@MonoLith2049]

love Love LOVE New Order. Thanks for this vid

[@mikhailpreda]

the new arrangement which you can find on the live at troxy and bestival gigs

[@ThaRealChuckD]

No Hooky, no New Order. 10000% agreed.

[@joydivisionafan6055]

No hooky no new order...no bernard no new order.

[@kevcatnip7589]

ironically hooky let barney sing ,,,,they could have got a newguy

[@srfgtr63]

I miss Hooky.

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

He misses your money.

[@Skiptondesigns]

"We didn't care if we were successful or not." Oh bullshit!

[@mikhailpreda]

the new live rendition, you can hear it on here if you look enough

[@sfsoma]

Hooky calls them a New Order tribute band.

[@KarlHamilton]

The Light are a Monaco tribute band.

[@MatthewWooller]

Which is somewhat ironic...

[@Padulas]

it looks like time was friendly with steve. on the other hand bernard and gillian have aged pretty much since the 80s.

[@crnkmnky]

Youth was never meant to last forever. Age will come for you as well…

[@gkeaoyrge]

Haha 5:58 Looks like Bernard tripped over one of the wedges 😆

[@SleepMeditationandAffirmations]

Ya, none of them where trained musicians and just kept at it and writing song. Benard can't sing for SHIT to this day, and look how huge they got. Love New Order.

[@benitolazio8193]

No Hooky , no party . BTW Staying together for the sake of the children is noble and ALWAYS preferable to single parent families. A myriad of statistics support this.

[@elenamakarkina8529]

Electronic _Pet Shop Boys _BEST _VERY _VERY BEST THANKS

[@elenamakarkina8529]

Thanks for commentary_i love ВАС

[@GenevaRob72]

What version of 5-8-6 is that? It starts at 2:04

[@KarlHamilton]

8 years later did you ever find out? I'm also looking for it. P.S 2013. We hardly knew ye x

[@raph6931]

@@KarlHamilton its a live version. You can find it on the Live at Bestival 2012 and NOMC15 albums on Spotify

[@terencefigueroa678]

Sounded differently without hooky

[@weirdalfan1980]

No New Order, no Hooky. Agreed

[@stockholm1752]

No wonder Joy Division rarely gave interviews. New Order should’ve been called Left Over.

[@pinkstrumpet]

Been a huge fan of both bands since the early 80s, spent loads on bootlegs. To me, Hook's bass was lame ever since about 1986, but then the music as a whole started going downhill then anyway. Don't care about Hook's 'stage presence' - only interested in the music. Obsessed Hook fans just amuse me! I'm glad he left, I wish they'd ditch the bass altogether actually and just use keyboards. I've still got both his solo albums, might go have a listen now, cheers!

[@milltimberwhite]

pinkstrumpet Barney pretty much removed his bass from the records so no wonder it got lame, can barely hear it on Technique. The newer albums and their takes on the old songs show you where keyboards only gets you, sounds old and dated.

[@johnnyatab]

Wow. Bernard Sumner is looking kind of old.

[@megabot80]

terrible live vocals

[@alanshill4347]

I thought he looked well pissed

[@gregarioustumours2397]

Without Hooky it's not New Order. Bernie needs to get over himself.

[@kunt1969]

No they were not

[@TheRottenCheese]

Gillian has absolutely aged gracefully. She looks better than ever. And Peter Hook looks the opposite.

[@kristianTV1974]

Get a clue, this has never been about looks. Go back to your J-Lo album.

[@xxryder1]

Most 'reunion' concerts are shite anyway.

[@jeff91266]

Still a great band. Just as good without Peter Hook, his ego was too big !

[@kristianTV1974]

No, quite the opposite - Sumner's ego is the biggest. Just that he is the Machiavellian type. At least Hooky is honest, even if he does make himself look stupid. Wears his heart on his sleeve.

[@mikhailpreda]

@@kristianTV1974 Disagree, even hookys own pals in free bass bailed on him for being an egotistical shit and grave robber, I've half a mind to bet he would sell bits of Ian's corpse if he could make money off it.

[@mikhailpreda]

@David Clinging You may not like Music Complete, but it did great so what's wrong with that? It's a solid album on it's own merits, didn't need to tour a back catalog per album tour for it either.

[@landanengland7169]

That them Beatles are nothing without Brian Jones 🙄

[@hhlohmann3881]

Landan England Yeh, Brian's drumming made the difference

[@Tcoldsteel]

Just like when Steve Marriott was kicked out of the Rolling Stones. The circle is complete.

[@CS-sf1rz]

@@hhlohmann3881 bon Scott and Peter best

[@CS-sf1rz]

🤑😋

[@pinkstrumpet]

Much better without Hook, the bass sounds great. Hook's bass was lazy

[@bs27v1b]

I love the whole band, but I still miss Hooky

[@MrSchmolko]

who doesnt. the only bass player to leave a mark with his unique style, or does anyone know another basser that is recognised right away?

[@ewyss9206]

@@MrSchmolko Lemmy, Steve Harris, Chris Squire, Geezer Butler...

[@beatuplexus]

@@MrSchmolko exactly. You can tell he's playing right away. Truly a unique player

[@mikhailpreda]

@@MrSchmolko Simon Gallup?

[@krisius1]

Michael Preda absolutely....

[@glaucoo]

Love you all but without Peter Hook the Band Lost something Very important to me.

[@cadge]

Oh, go and make it up with Hookey for christs sake!

[@karziflora]

Steve Morris hardly changed throughout the years....the man is in his mid 50's! LEgendaries!

[@colinrgage]

Love Stephen Morris great guy to listen to

[@imsocuez]

How beautiful a legacy. One of my all-time favorite bands.

[@ivanhaoleboy]

I am re reading both of Stephen’s books. Really well written. Recommend everyone check them Out

[@whangie1]

Barnie looks pissed out of his brain onstage. Also that dodgy scream made me giggle. I was thinking about Spinal Tap when I saw him lumbering about shit-faced. Shame as I do love a good chunk of New Orders back catalogue.

[@redcoat4ever323]

Why hasnt Stephen aged a day since 1980?

[@sashamoody1708]

The speed that he drummed took him back in time

[@NanaSam333]

Love their music. Great band.

[@ElectronicBeatsTV]

Before this Slices New Order feature is going offline here is your chance to watch it. Enjoy! #Neworder

[@SpaceCattttt]

I've met a lot of celebrities, and they've all been exactly they way I imagined they would be. Good and bad. It's the average people in the street I can't figure out...

[@buffiluv]

Love NO. I also love the fact Barny STILL carnt sing.

[@whangie1]

Everything is OK Plastic face carnt smile (White Out).

[@fsemple]

Yeah, yeah. First, his name is Bernard, get it right. Blue Monday is the #1 selling song in history and has been viewed over 25,000,000 times on KZbin

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

He's ok. Around the time Technique came out he had a few singing lessons.

[@dirkpehrke9909]

Might be true that Bernard still can't sing, but no one can't sing the way Sumner does it.

[@noleftynorighty457]

The fact that he can't properly sing live was what made them particular. However, he's still an archived musician. Used to really really really like New Order when I was a kid, and into young adulthood. Now I'm an old fart. Without a doubt, they shaped my musical taste. The first time I listened to Substance (as an entry door to their work), it transported me into another dimension. Back then internet was nonexistent, so it took me a while to find out they had been the darker JD prior to NO. So later I started to like some "goth" bands , thanks to them. Great times the 80s, everything you discovered back then was through radio, or because of your older sibling's good taste in music.

[@2000stephenellis]

Simply love New Order ... so down to earth ..esp Stephen ... he`s brilliant .. and so funny .. i watched a documentary recently about how JD started and he was describing the landscape in 70`s Manchester .. "Manchester was like a warzone ..there was a foul smell in the air ... which at the time was true because the drains were up at the time" .. brilliant !! love their music ...

[@malccy72]

Without Peter Hooks' bass it's not really New Oder imo.

[@dedpxl]

yeah, the new single is really Electronic without Johnny Marr. Bernard even said in an interview he barely consulted the band, he just made it himself. Peter Hook added an edge to the music, and obviously his actual bass is an integral part of NO's sound.

[@blackbunny6146]

I Love Gillian!!!!!!

[@deletebilderberg]

Odd seeing Bernard so pally with Gillian and Steve, it was never that way before Hooky threw his toys out the pram and sulked off.

[@derkeheath5172]

Sorry, but without Peter Hook this is just a really good cover band. I'd still like them if they had the integrity to change their name like they did when Ian Curtis "left" the group, but honestly, their newer stuff is really uninspired and generic for the most part.

[@tedex8100]

Shite without Hooky

[@kristianTV1974]

True, saw him in Camden the other night, he cares more about New Order's material than they do. Bernard is just phoning it in nowadays.

[@danielmatthews9918]

I still fancy Gillian! Glad she is back in the band!

[@cfcreative1]

They went to shit on Republic. What they were before that was amazing analog synths, a sense of humor, pop genius mixed with the absurd. No one can touch what they did in those early years before Republic.

[@funnyshortsXL]

And Republic was my favorite album too...

[@napatora]

while i agree, republic did give us regret

[@martinharrison1504]

Republic wasn't a bad record. I just don't think the music they were making at that time and since was right for that moment in the way it was received. Their niche wasn't as appealing as it was in their early years because of other music around at the time that for whatever reason people were more in to. To do with the dynamic of where popular music was at at the time.

[@sodiumlights]

analog synths, a sense of humour, pop genius mixed with the absurd....sounds also like the Pet Shop Boys.

[@telophasemusic]

Republic is tied with Waiting For The Sirens Call as the worst New Order record, tho i think both albums have their strengths. Its N.O. after all! "Regret" almost redeems the whole LP, and the title track off Sirens Call is just beautiful

[@novadhd]

They were great in the 80's and up to Repbublic . Not really they same without Hook.

[@extrememetalist]

He can't sing. He talks his way through the songs. But, who gives a shit - it wouldn't be New Order without him.

[@karlmeadows1487]

Les battersby on the couch tonight

[@delhidelirium9091]

Why is it Gillan reminds me of Cosey Fanni Tutti ? Perhaps I should lay of the gear and amplified self suggestion ...

[@mezanine10]

Keith Richards said Jimmy Page was LZ. I believe Hooky was NO.

[@stuartshaycarey]

I can’t listen to New Order without Hookey 😭

[@gerardclark4289]

Ffs hurry up and get hooky back!

[@909Underground]

Wot a Brilliant and Encouraging Stament by Bernard Sumner at 8:35

[@clivetring]

Amen. He can express himself brilliantly on occasions - and yet other times he sounds like English is his fourth language, both in interviews and in his lyrics. Don't get me wrong - I think he's right up there in the pantheon and so are the band. Just - inconsistent.

[@crnkmnky]

I know! ✨🔮🎶❤️

[@martinharrison1504]

Between 10 and 11 minutes Stephen sums something up about music that's very significant and goes a long way to explaining why most bands go down hill as their careers progress.

[@ImranMt.]

It’s a shame New Order lost everything. But, it’s nice to see you seemingly still enjoying yourselves. Wouldn’t it be nice, though, to meet up with Peter from time to time just to hangout like the good old days. Pardon, I’m way behind the times. So, you’ve all have probably already done, so.

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

I guess it's good that they were trying to still play but to rehash their old songs? I dunno.

[@jumofi]

I have been following these guys for 35 years ❤

[@kimbaptempura4073]

At the beginning it sounds like they're dancing around the Peter Hook situation a bit.

[@The.Last.Guitar.Hero.]

Wow that gig is awful

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

Stephen is a legend.

[@etherealcatholic5711]

Mom & Dad retire and start a New Order cover band. 😁 I wish them all the best.

[@unnamedone5514]

the perfect band

[@TrueFaith94]

Wish they would reconcile already and recruit the Chemical Brothers again to produce them. It kills me to say it because they're my favorite band, but most of New Order's music over the last 12 years has been generic and boring

[@etherealcatholic5711]

TrueFaith94 Aphex Twin or or Ulrich Schnauss should produce them.

[@soulminer]

We don't care if we are commercially successful or not. Fantastic attitude and they succeeded anyway.

[@wolvie1973]

when you know that even if you make a profit it will be drowned it the financial sinkhole called Hacienda it's easier to not give a damn about commercial success. Keep in mind that they have the best selling EP of all time and yet managed to lose 100 000 pounds in the process thanks to Tony Wilson's management abilities

[@tymanski1]

they died after technique :/

[@joydivisionafan6055]

Your musical taste died after technique.

[@Aiwendil99]

I'm with you tymanski, but I would go further and say they started dying after Low Life, after Technique has been a death march. Maybe a handful of good songs since then. Like so many 80's bands (Depeche Mode, The Cure, The B-52's, Morissey, etc.) they should have given it up ages ago and retired. I saw New Order at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago a few years back - musically they were fine, but Bernard was terrible, I actually felt bad for him.

[@lucasm3879]

Regret, World, Crystal and others are great songs.

[@niallsutherland8224]

Pretty much...Regret was great...

[@texas4christ]

new order is fabulous and any new songs from them will likely be fabulous. thanks for all the songs, new order

[@briantyson7744]

They are everything and beautiful. That fucking drummer is the second son of God.

[@michafolan6389]

I wish they would play Dublin on their own no festivals all the best

[@TomTropic]

I love them! New Order forever...

[@philipb867]

If Hooky came back I would go and see them and buy their music again but not as is, it is NOT New Order!

[@ToPayIsToFail]

my favourite band ever.

[@johnnyatab]

I don't know about that scream at the end by Sumner.

[@mariebbgon]

They only let Gillian hold the mic, but not speak. That looked weird.

[@revol148]

she never says anything anyway....

[@CS-sf1rz]

That’s her job 😆☺️

[@delakota555]

Was it a free gig? I hope people didn't have to pay for their tickets! Truly awful! ;-)

[@srfgtr63]

Their 2010 version of 586 is cool. Very kraftwerk like at the beginning 5.8.66666

[@GilbertoFreitasMendes]

Incredible Band! Greetings from Brasil.

[@PhillyPhoton]

Hmmm... I've never really heard Steve Morris speak... (I read an interview with him back in an 80's industry rag, but never heard him speak)

[@kunt1969]

You are talking crap, hookys distinctive bass(and his stage presence) made new order what they are, have you listened to a lot of new order?. To be honest I wish bernard, Steve and Gillian would 'put new order to bed', because they have become 3 members with session musicians. And you say Hooks bass was lazy! bollocks

[@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites]

the most unlikely pop stars

[@atlanta2076]

Yeah, they truly .... "roll with the paunchs". New Order - Peter Hook = No Order.

[@hhlohmann3881]

They don't look comfortable behind the cliches they utter

[@mikew4001]

Always a great band!

[@bobbygasoline]

Ego got the best of Hooky, I suppose. Shame really. Ah well....carry on.

[@kunt1969]

Hookys bass playing was an integral pat of their sound, hey are now like a lemon merangue pie with artificial lemon, they don't sound like new order without Peter Hook...