Felder Mortiser FD250 in-depth

[@Uli_Krosse]

There are not enough videos like this on KZbin. Some weirdos might see this as "shilling", but I see a man praising a tool because it makes his job easier - which is what a tool is supposed to do. Yes, it IS carpentry porn, but it does show a high class tool in a real life environment, complete with sawdust and woodchips, not in a "workshop" that looks more like a showroom. I loved this, please keep making more of those!

[@theofarmmanager267]

Excellent video. Good narration: very good camera work: excellent production values. I’m never going to “need” a machine like this. Even when we were making to sell, each piece was bespoke and we found that the setting-up time on a machine for one particular cut usually exceeded the time spent doing it by “hand”. However, if you are making a number of cuts, each the same, then the machine becomes more and more economic. As I get older, my major issue with an increasing number of machines, is that I forget all the features and set up process of the machines. Don’t worry, you will get there eventually!

[@Tilburger72]

Great video and nice machine. It's on my wishlist now. But first my A3 -31

[@vincentrolfe1384]

Got the same machine with end stops, and longer posts for taller work, extension 300MM alum tables of which you can C clamp a backstop for big work. The endmill for smooth or rough cuts is much better than those birdseye stuff that Felder leads us into. And bradpoint bits are so smooth. Don't forget to grease and clean the vertical ways periodically. Us a bubble level on the machine table and then likewise set on the bit and you have parallel. Put some moly lube on that rack and pinion gear for the depth and you will notice how much easier the plunge is. I find the handle back stop will roll on you so I have 3" X 4" and small beams of wood I C clamp to the extension tables-Felder to prevent such. The Swedes have some high chrome 30MM metal posts with 20MM threads you can get for the camclamps and do oil the clamps on occasion. I find if you cut about 3/8" off of the metal rods of the camclamps' just pull off the black round handles and hack saw them; then, you avoid hitting the end of the lever on other things-it clears better and you don't lose that much leverage. Best machine on the market. Martin was close but does not have the accessories. I have the rolling kit also for maneuvering. Not necessary to have the vac going all the time. Powermatic has Japan square chisel that are superior to Felder having better metal. Let the saw dust begin.

[@marchoffmann6211]

Ohh Andy, I‘ve been waiting anxiously for this video! Thank you so much! You’ve made my day! Great content, great video! Thank you!! Cheers

[@chrisshannonmoeller781]

Andy, great video. I like learning more about the tools you use. Thank you!

[@WillLeingang]

So nice! I’m sure I wouldn’t have clamped that down enough and it would have moved and buggered up my piece.

[@David-fv7zg]

Were ready for a kiln update! Thanks.

[@markarmstrong2592]

A great machine and multi purpose cheers Andy

[@geraldpolmateer3255]

I built a mortising machine that is much heavier to mortise the slots for doors. I used a variable frequency drive to be able to change the speed of the motor. That allows me speeds from basically produced by whatever I choose of about 30 hertz to 120 hertz. In my case most of the time I run the cutters at 120 Hz which gives me a RPM of about 6900. I use standard milling cutters for steel. I have cutters ranging from about 1-1/2 inches to about four inches in length and from 1/8 inch to 1/2 inch in diameter. If I had known about the Felder I would have bought it with the extensions. The machine I have works very well but it was not easy to make.

[@TheDeanTeam]

Thanks for this helpful video! Do the vertical clamp locks need to be loosened whenever you're raising / lowering the height of the cutter? I've had those clamps locked when adjusting the height of the cutter and now the vertical gear chuck is stripped in one spot. I'm guessing it's because I should've had the vertical clamp lock loose when raising / lowering the cutter. Thanks!

[@herrroy4963]

Excellent video. May I ask what that machine costed? I have a chisel mortiser, I wonder, when do you use the chisel and when do you use the router mortiser? (Sorry I don't know exactly what they are called, hope you understand). They do almost the same job?

[@morrellii]

I’ve been waiting all winter to pour my first wall art as a tester for my first river table, but the glass cast 50 is sold out everywhere!!

[@SMee67]

Man, what a score, you're definitely going to be putting that beast through its paces, no doubt!👌🏽 Certainly be many advantages adding this to you hefty arsenal. 👍🏽

[@twandieltjes1359]

Great video. There are hardly videos on KZbin about these machines. That’s a shameful. I like working with such a mortiser. That’s why the discussion what to buy is hard. I cannot justify 1200 euro for a domino in my head. Unfortunately this machine is more expensive

[@mariushegli]

I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

[@extremewoodworker]

Great Job! This is the first time I have seen the square mortiser demonstrated on the FD250. Have you ever used this to put a mortise in the face of a board. Thanks Steve

[@troystaten5633]

Nice machine, interesting that Felder did not use a spiral pattern bit for the slot cutting bits.

[@vincentrolfe1384]

put a little cup grease lube on the rack and pinion gears now and then. Starrett, USA, makes a pocket level that comes in handy in setting the chisel square with the table (check bubble position on the table and then do same on the flat side of the chisel). I tend to use those 300MM Felder alumin table extensions rather than have the Aigner attached. With the Felder extensions you can C clamp a wood block to the table if the piece you are working is beyond the cast iron table. You can cut a wedge angle on the table saw and position it under the work piece so you have an angle tilt of the table.

[@Александр-о2д4н]

Молодец хорошое оборудование залог качественной работы класс

[@luclanoe5975]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Toujours au top Manorwood. 🙏

[@scottcallan3897]

wow, what a machine

[@joschmoyo4532]

It's the hack and stack of mortising machines. I suppose if it had two heads so you could square chisel the ends it might be worth a go but you can't beat an oscillating chisel Mortiser for speed, accuracy and dust collection.

[@LuisMonrroy-v3d]

me gusta laconbinada felder 741s para carpinteria

[@Douglas-pk4og]

Love the video. Would you recommend this machine for producing 200 solid wood entrance doors per month? Also, are you using floating tenons?

[@ManorWood]

Yeah as long as you keep changing a bit keep it Sharp, sometimes it’s faster to use floating tenants

[@vincentrolfe1384]

@@ManorWoodThere is a Japan made premium chisel set that stays sharper than Felder. Powermatic sells one

[@lewisitaliano661]

Can this be used for dowel joinery?

[@ManorWood]

yes if you fix the head and set up stops

[@adriansams6066]

Like Felder quality of machines but this is one machine I really don't see any point in having over a standard morticer like the Sedgwick style morticer. I'm guessing the maximum square chisel would be about 20mm and the operator will get far more fatigue in the "pushing/pulling" movement to use it over the standard "Pull down, push up" movement on a standard type morticer it might be fine for the occasional woodworker but I don't know a single Joinery who uses this type of morticer. Felder machines are cost effective but far from budget prices so I'm guessing this is more expensive than an Sedgwick which costs around £1300+vat. When morticing a lock in I a door style either mortice it before constructing the door or use a jig.......... Cheap and cost effective.. Just ordered 3 new machines from Felder so I'm not anti Felder.. All the best Ade

[@jimpackard8059]

Yes, what you says makes sense. I cannot see how this is better than a traditional Mortimer either. Surely you are not expected to hand chisel out the round ends afterwards ? That is a waste of time. Best bet is to get an old Wadkin MF or DM with vertical stops and multiple length stops, spring loaded. You rarely see these Felder Mortimer’s in the UK but then maybe Manor Wood are producing something different

[@Peter_Bovey]

wouldn't the pantorouter both be cheaper and more versatile?

[@anttilatvala8879]

I suppose pantorouter does not take so well really heavy objects. Fd250 is cast iron and you can pretty much throw anything on it. Pantorouter would be much better for tenoning! I end up ask more often why I still have FD250 after buying the bigger domino machine.

[@ОлегИванов-щ9я]

Felder рулит!

[@DavePawson]

Looks like brick outhouse engineering.

[@bethoughtprovoking]

There are better slot mortises on the market. The chisel attachment is not very user-friendly; it requires awkward handling. But, in all fairness, Felder does make its mortiser versatile with the various other attachments and accessories it offers. For a small professional shop it’s okay. But not my choice for quick and efficient slot mortising, and definitely not a recommended machine for chisel mortising.

[@oblux]

Sorry, but im going to be a 'hater' - looks to me like Felder have tried to reinvent the wheel, so to speak. Yes it seems to serve the purpose of a slot mortiser okay (remember all those that can attach to the side of planer thicknessers? - Whose ever used those anyway!?) - But as a regular mortiser - why not just have a nice large chunk of cast iron which is more user friendly and ergonomic, at a fraction of the price? (I picked up a very large, heavy and accurate Cooksley for £100 on ebay) The FD250 looks super janky and awkward to use, and i'm surprised how slow it handles any of the tasks given to it. I'm all up for workshop innovation, but this machine seems like a poor substitute for a mortiser, and doesn't do anything that a decent router or domino machine can't do either.

[@vincentrolfe1384]

Over here in Chicago using the FD250 with square chisel option and 3 phase. If you are putting a square hole in the end of a beam the Felder shines. For box work with perfect alignment for hinge cutting-lid to box wall the Felder is quick and accurate and with 20" custom cam clamp posts we can hold the wood for precise cutting in multiples. Try the Felder and then try to figure a way to say "nay". Figure the cost of some machines over 10 or 15 years that can deliver a competitive edge and that puts things in perspective. Hard to find a Felder on the used market that will do 19MM square holes and with the step and repeat optional fitting we have accuracy and speed. Some of the Japan steel quality bits surpass Felder quality and will stand up to production work. Those hand held Domino tools do not have accuracy after 3 hours of production where accuracy is paramount and if you have low cost labor they just tend to not get the job done. Set up the Felder and any one can run it and do super work. Hand held machines and tools have movement in the cut built into them if you want side by side cuts in mortise and tenon work.

[@jimpackard8059]

Doubt that Felder invented it. Lots of Europeans use this system. In fact, I am not sure that Felder even made the machine.