Felis 747-200 Full Tutorial - Part 4 - Fuel Management

[@jetnoise6053]

Even not flying or buying this aircraft, I enjoy watching your videos. Learning sooo much each time.....Thank you for your time, spending.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks Oliver, glad you're enjoying the videos - most of the concepts are applicable to other types too, just the 747-200, like the Tu154, exposes more of the systems to the pilots and engineer rather than being fully automated.

[@diego01al23]

Thanks for the hard work you put into these videos. Your explanations and diagrams are very clear and on point. It's unbelievable how you make all these really complex systems easy to understand. Keep it up! :)

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks Diego!

[@Virtual-CPT]

The fuel management makes this plane really unique. Finally something to do during cruise ✈️

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes indeed, she'll keep you busy during the cruise, especially transcontinental with lots of VOR or INS work.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

That EICAS display is a thing of beauty.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Hehe! That was the second version, and even then I think I could have done better with the jettison system.

[@NHR2020]

Its been a joy to master the Felis 747, and thanks so much for this tutorial series Graeme which has helped me enormously to do so. Learning to master its complexities adds to the immersive feel.

[@alexaeglir4512]

Best explanation out there. My first flight ended up with both outboard engines off, since I had no clue how to manage the fuel system. It reminds me of the 727 system. It's kinda the same deal: your plane tries to kill you if you don't pay attention

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the nice feedback. Yes it need a little bit of attention in the cruise, not like a modern aircraft!

[@larrybueno]

I just discovered this channel and now I can't stop watching it. Every serious flight simmer should subscribe. keep up the good work!

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Glad you found the channel Larry, hope you enjoy the other content on here. The TBM900 series is by far my favourite, I'm very happy with how it turned out.

[@Flexflex744]

Awesome video for everyone who wants to fly the plane a bit more professionally. Thank you so much ❤

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the nice feedback!

[@davidg3168]

So excited for the upcoming arrival vid!

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for your patience David. I'm waiting for Felis to push the version with fixed localiser capture, then I need a few days off work to get it recorded.

[@mervynedwards5755]

I would like to add my appreciation of your videos, I have found the Felis B742 series fantastic. I find your thorough method in describing things very useful in understanding the way the aircraft is set up and used. I hope you will be making another video of the descent and landing, as I think this would complete the set perfectly. Again many thanks for all the effort.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks Mervyn, and sorry for the delay replying. I'm waiting for Felis to correct some issues with the landing behaviour before recording the final video. I was hoping to have recorded it by now, but the landing behaviour still isn't correct. The good news is Felis is again working with the testers to track down the issue, so hopefully he'll get there soon.

[@crew-rest]

I just wanted to add my praise for your briliant tutorial videos, add my thanks and encourage you to add more videos to this wonderful aircraft series. The more tutorials the better. Looking forward to the arrival video as well as any other systems or procedures you may present. I love your clear explanations and learn from them.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the really nice feedback. The arrival video should be coming in the next couple of weeks. Have some real work to do, and also waiting for a version of the aircraft with a couple of little issues resolved so I don't have to show workarounds in the videos.

[@omriginzburg4597]

Dear Graham, These videos are incredible! They made my flying this beast doable! I know it has been a few months, but are you planning to extend the series beyond these four episodes?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Glad you like the videos. Yes there will be a landing video coming, sorry it's taking so long. I'm still not happy with the landing behaviour of the aircraft with the most recent update making it pretty difficult to land properly. Felis is working with the testers again so hopefully he'll get it resolved soon. As soon as he does, I'll get the video recorded. Thanks for your patience!

[@omriginzburg4597]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations Thanks, Graham! Looking forward to it (hoping to stop doing landings of 800-1000 fpm, my poor passengers)

[@davidbarnett5237]

Hello Graeme, Itoo echo the sentiments of other's on your great 747-200 tutorials. As others, I'm awaiting number 5 as well. I appreciate your attention to detail, in wanting us to getthe best experience flying the Queen. As a realworld pilot in the US flying B737 series, I'm quite familiar with Boeing style procedures. What you show on the 747 makes perfect sense to me. I also echo another gentleman, that mentioned he didn't have the 747 or xplane. I am the same. I was patiently awaiting the Justflight release. Seems now, that may be months away now. Seriously considering geting Xplane, jsut so I can enjoy the 747. One of my Favs. Thanks again for your hard work

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the nice feedback David, and sorry for the delay replying. Part 5 is on KZbin now, so I hope it was worth the wait. I had a very experienced 747-200 Flight Engineer help with the procedures as far as possible, and the product really is what it is thanks to his hard work making sure the aircraft behaves like it's supposed to do. I've wanted a 747 in the simulator for ages, and the Felis version does a good job.

[@andrewrobertshaw1425]

What a splendid tutor - thanks for these videos.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the nice feedback Andrew, glad you're finding the videos useful.

[@vutti2893]

Hi Graeme, I have watched all four of your truly excellent tutorial videos on the Felis 247-200, but I don’t seem to be able to find what is possibly the most important one of all, the descent set up and approach. Did you decide not to make one in the end? Would just complete what are probably a ‘legacy’ set of tutorials on a truly great aeroplane.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes the 5th video is missing still. After release there were some significant changes to the ground effect/landing behaviour with the 742 that I really wasn’t happy with. (The initial release version felt very nice, but the ground effect was increased significantly for some reason in later updates). When I went back to the 742 to make the 5th video tit just wasn’t possible to do a reasonable job of the actual landing. Felis was working on improving it, but as he’s located in Ukraine the work has slowed down/stopped for obvious reasons. When I get some time I’ll check out the most recent version and see how that behaves - I really do want to finish the videos off.

[@vutti2893]

Hi Graeme, thank you for your reply. I only recently found out that the Team involved in the 747 are based in Ukraine, so obviously my thoughts and prayers are for a safe and positive outcome for them all. Great work…..and I’m sure I’m big enough and ugly enough to work out the finer points of the approach and landing. In the meantime take care.

[@sithiradulanjithgalhenaged6974]

Love your tutorial series, learned to fly the aircraft tot a certain degree with the help of your tutorials. Quick question, are you planning on doing one for the new navigation system realesed in the beta build ?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Sorry for the delay responding and thanks for the nice feedback. Yes I need to learn how to use it myself and then find some time to record a video. I'll probably wait until XP12 is out of beta and use it as an opportunity to look at the 747 in XP12 too.

[@tadcooper5835]

Graeme, Another high-quality, informative, and enjoyable series. At the end of the this video your mentioned a descend and landing video, will it be posted soon? And if you're taking requests, could you think about doing a series on a corporate jet, say like the Working Title Cessna Citation CJ4, for an example? Thanks!

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks Tad, I'm fairly busy at work right now, but I'll get the next video out as soon as possible. I'm afraid I don't have MSFS at the moment so can't fly the CJ4, but I will be doing a detailed series on the HotStart Challenger 650 when it is released.

[@tadcooper5835]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations Thanks for the reply, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful, you contribute so much to the community. Does this mean that air travel is picking back up in the UK and Europe? The Challenger 650 sounds intriguing, I look forward to that series too!

[@Iamwatchingyou75]

Thanks for the effort you put in the video! One question is remaining, is it possible to transfer fuel from Number 2/3 tanks, back in the Number 1/4 tanks with the help of the Jettison pumps?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

That's a good question. In normal operation no, because you're not really moving fuel between tanks, but rather prioritising which tanks are used for engine feed. There may be a way to use the jett/refuel manifold to move the fuel around, but it's not something I'm aware of and would not be a normal procedure. There are a few 747 engineers on the Felis Discord, so maybe somebody there has the definitive answer.

[@pedrulko2586]

Hi! Could you let us know where you get that Flight Plan layout from? It seem super useful to use when flying using the CIVA INS. Not only are the waypoints divided in groups of 9, but it also provides you with enroute DMEs you can use to correct the INS drift! Thanks!

[@SamCooper373]

That was done manually in a text editor :)

[@SamCooper373]

That was done manually in a text editor :) so proper flight planning.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes that's mostly done in a text editor. If you use the "BAW" format on simbrief one of the later pages has the list of waypoints, so it's easy enough just to copy them out and then group them. The DME waypoints are done by loading the route into SkyVector and looking at which DME stations may be useful on that leg. Doesn't take too long really.

[@andrewrobertshaw1425]

These tutorials are very good...is there going to be a part 5?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks Andrew, I've been waiting for a few updates to the aircraft before finishing the series so that the videos represent the "final" state of the aircraft rather than having to show some workarounds. I think it's very nearly there, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

[@andrewrobertshaw1425]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations Thanks for the update. You are a star.

[@NevadaRocks75]

Amazing vids...learned so much!!! Thanks a ton!! Can´t wait for part five.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks so much. I've been waiting for a few updates to the aircraft before finishing the series so that the videos represent the "final" state of the aircraft rather than having to show some workarounds. I think it's very nearly there, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

[@NevadaRocks75]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations waiting patiently 😊

[@HolgerTeutsch]

Great video, as always. Thanks a lot!

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

You're welcome Holger, thanks for the nice feedback.

[@herrhornbuckele5227]

Can you make simbrief group the waypoints in groups of nine or did you do that manually?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Not that I've seen, but I noticed that the BAW plan format has a list of waypoints on one of the later pages with all the LAT/LON references, so it's trivial to copy it into a text document.

[@franard4547]

When will the landing tutorial come..??

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Sorry for the delay with that. I'm still not happy with the landing behaviour of the aircraft with the most recent update making it pretty difficult to land properly. Felis is working with the testers again so hopefully he'll get it resolved soon. As soon as he does, I'll get the video recorded. Thanks for your patience!

[@astrojoules]

Wonderful tutorial! I do have a question though, if you are taking off without fuel in the centre tank (as rare as that may be), would you still take off with all 1+2+3+4 pumps on and crossfeed valves 1+4 on and 2+3 off?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes, that's correct. No center fuel you'll have all the main pumps on, and 1+4 crossfeeds open.

[@zephyrzhang]

Hey just want to ask, is there a way to automatically generate flight plan grouped by 1-9, 1-9 … like you showed in this video. I got flight plan from simbrief as 1,2,…9,10,11,12….

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Sorry, there isn't a method to do this automatically that I'm aware of - I copy and paste parts of the plan from SimBrief into a text document for use with the 747 INS.

[@jamesbutler7535]

I love your videos. When is part 5 coming out?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the nice feedback. I’ll make some time for the last video when the landing behaviour hasn’t changed for a couple of versions. Felis is still refining the landing behaviour at the moment.

[@jamesbutler7535]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations Thank you! I agree the landing behavior is not consistent!

[@kutyafal]

Loving your informative videos. One question since the final descent video was not produced: is there anything you need to do with the pressurization since there not seem to be a way to set landing altitude.

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

It's set on the same dial as the cruise flight level - you can see both scales adjust as the same time.

[@mohamedabokar4384]

Question how do I transfer to other way point like from 8-9 to -1-2/0-1 do I put the 9th previous way point as 1 and change the others or another way?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

The INS will go 8-9, then 9-1, then 1-2 and so on. All you need to do is make sure waypoint 1 is the "new" waypoint 1 before you get there. You can also do WY PT CHG and insert any pair of waypoints and it will follow that track, so 8-2 would then skip points 9 and 1, going directly from 8 to 2. You can also do 0-2 and it will go from the present position to 2, the equivalent of "direct to" on a FMS.

[@mohamedabokar4384]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations oh OK thx cap.

[@britishairways744]

Going to do a short haul felis 747 flight soon but I have 1 question if we are configured with fuel for a short haul and the main 1 2 3 4 tanks are equal would that mean that I wouldn't have to touch the fuel system after engine start (except reassign the croosfeed valves)

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes, pretty much. You'll still need to deal with the No1 and No4 Reserve tanks as per the video, but that's easy enough.

[@felix_jc]

Thank's a lot ! When will be part 5 ?

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Yes, there will be. I’ll make some time for part 5 when the landing behaviour has been consistent for a couple of versions. Felis is still fine tuning the landing behaviour.

[@felix_jc]

@@ReflectedRealitySimulations Ok, thanks a lot

[@lucasarbelaez1547]

Men thank amazing video

[@ReflectedRealitySimulations]

Thanks for the nice feedback.