Female stingray attacked everyone

[@andrewramero4560]

I think in this situation the best thing to do is realize that these are wild animals. We can do everything for the fish but there is still the fact that these are wild animals and they do wild animal things. Sorry for the loss Joey and I hope this helps in your grief

[@benny2870]

Idk, keeping wild animals in relatively small enclosures probably doesn't help

[@DeshawnHamilton-f4h]

Being that his rays were captive bread by definition they're not "wild animals" their just animals 😂 but yes animals do what animals do

[@sebastianjo752]

They are wild captive breed yes, but not domesticated@@DeshawnHamilton-f4h

[@incineroar9933]

​@@DeshawnHamilton-f4hthey're still wild and not domesticated animals. With all the instincts of their wild counterparts.

[@1jazzyphae]

It's so cruel. You take something from its ecosystem and put it in a cage. You have no idea what you're doing honestly because they are wild animals. You don't know how their territorial behaviors translate in captivity. Humans can't leave anything alone. And then stuff like this happens. It's wrong.

[@connectedeurope]

A friend of mine who kept stingrays as well had a similar issue. A big pregnant female in a 24000 liter indoor pond (inside 250 square meter indoor "terrarium") killed 4 other stingrays in a 2 hour timeframe early in the morning. Water quality was good, food consistent, no temperature fluctuations, nothing special, just like what happened here. He had a camera inside the water for 24/7 monitoring and it started at the time that a male was breeding with a female. This was also the male who bred with her. To us when seeing it it was shocking, it was like if she was jealous or something. My friend at the time thought it could have been to protect strong DNA in their environment. Later this female had 2 pups in the same thank who are now growing like crazy. Thanks for sharing this video, it's not easy to film and share these things when you care for these fish such a long time.

[@shayl582]

wow, that's something. a lot of people think fish don't have emotions but they definitely do.

[@verachia8137]

I also thought sounds like a jealous situation but they're stingrays ... it's really interesting. Sad but interesting

[@connectedeurope]

@@shayl582 I don't know if its emotions or instincts, but it sure was strange to see her "snap" in her brain at the moment the male was breeding another female.

[@jasonross5358]

It’s probably what you state: the large female wanted to ensure propagation of her offspring without competition. Slightly similar to how male lions kill cubs of other lions…

[@verachia8137]

@@jasonross5358 when you put it this way it makes far more sense. thanks

[@dannyipwn1203]

sorry for your loss joey :( Remember 1 thing, You have 1.64M subscribers. you have touched each and every one of us. for alot of us, we too have watched the rays grow for YEARS, we are attached to your livestock in ways you may not imagine. This one hurts. But youve inspired hundreds of thousands of people to get into the hobby, youve inspired many of us to build our own fish tanks, and even create unique solutions for filtration. Like you said, You know what youre doing, sometimes you cant stop what happens in the middle of the night, it was out of your control. Just remember that you have a 1.6M people standing behind you and wishing you the best. Sending love your way brother. keep your head up. (now there is room for some new additions !) (hopefully not too soon....)

[@rahjelli]

oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that it must be heartbreaking with all the history you've gone through with the black diamonds.

[@jasonross5358]

Nice to see Joeys passion and learning from these troubles. I think it’s time Joey sets up some cameras… so much happens after dark. And especially when Joey travels.

[@brassdg]

Damn, it's already been 8 years? Feels like you just got them a few years ago. Sorry for your loss man. Nothing else but to keep moving forward.

[@StarFoxLazer]

That the Covid time mess in with yah

[@ts2357]

Not all aquarium KZbinrs would share this honesty I don’t think there was anything that could have been done to prevent or predict this respect for sharing all love Joey

[@angiek.4144]

Sorry for your loss. The journey you've had with them was incredible. I'm so happy I was able to join you in the experience. Thank you for sharing.

[@charlesschneider1891]

i am glad you never hide things from us that happen with your fish . Shows me that it is something that is right to show when you have a channel like yours .

[@Horse-gi]

Thanks for sharing man. I lost all three of my rays in one night a month ago because something went haywire and I was just feeling like a failure. This in some ways helps me come to grips with sometimes things happen. Sorry for your loss

[@Loveofpets]

So sorry for your loss. I know you loved them so much.

[@adkgaladkgal1799]

You couldn't have predicted the attack. I'm so sorry about your sting rays. So sorry for your loss.

[@swift30sf23]

He said they were showing signs of aggression he knew this could happen he just wanted the content he knows this type of trash content gets views

[@Glassboxmonsters]

So very sorry for your loss my friend. Don't loose hope. We all still need you

[@Soopro88]

I’m so sorry for your loss Joey, I know you love your stingray’s. It’s heartbreaking.

[@ippaku]

Joey thank you for always being who you are. We all realize after many years of enjoying your videos and your journey you shared with us how much you have love for the creatures that you choose to be caretaker of. I agree with the other post I’ve seen their wild animals and you’ve done everything you can. Your self reflection continues to show A massive amount of humility and love for the aquarium hobby not just the creatures that you’ve lost today but overall. Thank you thank you thank you. I know this is painful for you but I hope you find some comfort and reflection that you did everything you could to give them the best life they had. Be well be you

[@crog]

So sorry about the stingrays. The work you do is so admirable and it means a lot to us as viewers that you’re always so open with us

[@aquarium.talktv]

You’re a great Fishkeeper brother. You’ve done miraculous things for the hobby and inspired EVERY SINGLE CREATOR in some way shape or form on KZbin today. I want to say great video, but I can’t. Instead I’ll say I remember getting the devastating text message this morning or whenever it was that this bdisaster happened… and it’s NOT YOUR FAULT. Hang in there bro.

[@fryaduck]

Everything happens, everything changes it's not the result that matters it's journey and what comes next, look forward to it. Go give Tamara a hug.

[@Wutlatte.]

Ah f*ck. I remember you losing the first BD rays due to the heater failure. That was truly heartbreaking.

[@davidconner7933]

Id talk to Kevin at preditory fins and see what he thinks

[@snorrelarsen7500]

Joey, I've been a dedicated follower of your channel for a decade now, ever since I pursued my master's degree at Norway's sole seafood university. What's happening isn't within your control; it's simply the untamed unpredictability of nature. Keep up your incredible work; you're the epitome of an aquarium enthusiast ambassador. We're all behind you, unwavering in our support, because we recognize your unmatched expertise and your admirable humanity.

[@williamamely7038]

Hey Joey, my condolences on the loss of your Stingrays. It is definitely devastating that the big female went on such a rampage. I wish you much better results, going forward, with your Rays. Sorry about the news but you didn't do anything wrong. I know you will do right by them. Do keep us updated on them. Thanks for sharing this video, though it was not the content we thought we would receive.

[@benedicttusia700]

I just found you today. I never watched an aquarium videos before today. This was my third of yours. I am so very sorry for your loss. I am still interested in this hobby… because of you. Thank you for posting tough moments with humility and honesty. I will be more mindful because of you. Blessings to you. ❤

[@benedicttusia700]

I have just finished your video… I am sure you have friends… reach out if you need one more. Also, Jane Goodall knew chimpanzees better than anyone. Yet, she was stunned the day two clans went to war. They had never done anything like that before. She did not have a clue. If you had asked her about it the week or even the day before, she could not have thought her chimpanzees would likely do that. Afterwards, she knew she would need a lot of time to have more answers to the questions her experience had created. Years perhaps, in fact. Whatever you choose to do… I have a lot of respect for that. I am glad men like you are putting content like you put up on KZbin. Again thanks.

[@shreyar7104]

I’m sorry 😢 Been watching you for years! I love your content and it’s kept the aquarium hobbyist alive in me. Thank you for always sharing ♥️

[@susyclau7433]

What a horrible and painful situation, poor guys. RIP beautiful ones. I'm really sorry for your loss Joey

[@shaunbaard]

So sorry for your loss! Losing any animal for any reason is just the worst.

[@sabinebuchanan1889]

I watch your videos because you show the good the bad the ugly. Most of your videos are good, some are bad and few are ugly. I can't keep fish right now, not the ones I want. So I watch your videos. Thank you for sharing all. It gives a good view of what happens when you keep fish. Your sting rays are one of my favorites. Your honest portrayal of the hobby is why I keep watching.

[@tinchytarantula]

Omg wow so sorry to hear this Joey I know you loved those rays and the rays were a favourite of mine two I remember the day you first introduced them to us all again am really sorry for your loss 😢😢

[@neelnandi4026]

That’s brutal Joey. My condolences to you. Stay strong and just get through this. Take your time

[@JustaGuyinMI]

Man, I’m so sorry to hear this. I remember you unboxing them and just the excitement you had! What a tragedy. So sorry.

[@Micahh808]

Joey, keep your head up brother!. Everything’s going to be okay. You have a lot going for you and your fish gallery. Don’t let something like this ruin it. Stay strong!

[@herdouacheng05]

So sorry to hear the loss Joey, sometimes somethings are just out of our hands even though we try our best to be as careful as we can to not make any mistakes.

[@Specogecko]

The worst part of animal keeping is when unpredictability results in injury and death. Happens to us all and there isn’t much we can do, best of luck king

[@ronmurray4191]

Hey Joey, Sorry for your loss. Hope you can move on from this. Stay strong! RIP Ray's!

[@stormyswearengen9102]

I'm sorry for your troubles... I have watched you for years... You have matured beautifully.. CHEERS...

[@ramonbrown7119]

Sorry for your loss my brother Joey. Your track record on raising fish is flawless these things happen it’s not your fault

[@recycledsoul5908]

Very sorry for your loss, Joey. All in all they ARE animals, no matter how much we tell ourselves otherwise.

[@JackDemp719]

I feel ya I watch them from the beginning hard to see them end like that

[@TheJudy0786]

so sorry for your loss ! that's the hard part in fish keeping we keep looking for what we did wrong.

[@jamesmorningstar5217]

You said you think she's pregnant. What are the chances that she got jealous of the male breeding with the other female and just snapped. Keeping fish for about 10 years I have noticed that fish can be very personable. Maybe she didn't want to share. But none the less, it's not your fault Joey. Thanks for sharing.

[@chrissyosborne3879]

I am sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how devastating it is to have had them for so long and lose them.

[@jasonshewbert1280]

Sorry for your loss. That's really is a huge bummer.

[@WoAntonio]

Joey you’re one of the best on KZbin… you show us the good, the bad, the real and the boring parts of the hobby.

[@asheyeakin545]

That’s incredibly heartbreaking. You’ve had those rays for so long. 😢

[@BRRT199]

It just reminds me of Buddy.. I feel your loss, not meaning it was a comparable situation but you had the rays for years...

[@TheGambler2003]

Fr, hard to believe it’s been 8 years

[@DanielIngram-m3x]

Sorry for your loss. Everyone can see how well looked after your fish are and fair play for putting this video out, ignore anyone who comments negatively

[@matthewadams8294]

Condolences, this is gotta be heart wrenching. I’ve watched you since you got them. And to lose two. Hang in there ❤

[@Lordbubb35]

Damn dude I remember when you got those!! Like you said nothing too be embarrassed about …tough part about this hobby…keep grinding!! Your doing amazing things

[@Hemp1972]

Holy, I never seen this much agression between black diamonds. Prooves even the best care can't prevent this level of agression from happening. Keep up the good work! 🔆

[@johnruta2558]

oh man that sucks joey sorry for your loss brother i know you love black diamond stingrays 8yrs is a long time

[@Rose-rx7ly]

im so sorry ... ive been watching you since before the gallery ... ive grown up side by side with these fish and .... it feels like I lost one of my own. its unfortunate that this happen, but life happens sometimes. I appreciate you sharing this. just remember, this isn't your fault. Your a wonderful fish keeper, and im certain they had an amazing life. Hope you feel better, our hearts are with you ❤

[@jasonknight6220]

Sorry for your loss of your rays. Keep your chin up and keep moving forward 👊💪

[@kdjaxx]

Things so sad not what I expected to be watching but really appreciate you sharing all this and the honest and process for it all

[@kagedraven8787]

Oh no Joey :( so sorry for your loss this must be terrible! 😢 It’s never nice losing a pet especially one you are really attached to and excited about I hope you are ok

[@davehunt9434]

They are wild animals at heart, there is nothing you did wrong. This sort of thing happens all the time in the wild. Don’t beat yourself up. Thank you for the honesty and always bringing us along thru everything. Keep up the amazing work you do and all the education you provide.

[@rattdoggsaquariums4976]

Man I’m sorry for your loss. I remember when you got them.

[@davidcampbell4050]

You have my condolences. It must really be heartbreaking to have cared for those fish for so long and to lose them so abruptly.

[@LombardiDegrada]

So sorry to hear about your loss man. Take care

[@shammaiduncan6622]

😢 I feel for you bro, it’s horrible loosing a pet after long time.

[@akeenaeailey713]

I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss

[@johncrowell9014]

Man that's horrible. So sorry for your loss! 😢

[@myopinion-doesntmatter8236]

Thats pretty sad, few weeks ago i lost few L046s and i was devastated. Cant image how you feeling right now losing your babies

[@kevinrutan7280]

No other word for it, that just plain sucks, especially having them for 8 years, sorry for the loss

[@MeZuMix]

😢 so sad. We accompanied them for so long. Sending big hugs.

[@angelcaraballo9767]

sorry for your loss man i just lost my Australian arowana i know your pain there always a brighter day keep your head up

[@deedeewass3047]

I'm so sorry to hear this Joey. This is the real life stuff of the hobby and I appreciate you sharing the real deal. You know your fish better than anyone because you are the one who is putting all the work into them. Anyone saying otherwise needs to keep their comments to themselves. And yes, the hobby really can suck. You have to take the good and the bad and more times then not you don’t get the choice.

[@kellicrane1900]

I'm so sorry to hear/see this. I've watched your fish journey through the years, and can only send my condolences for the loss of your rays.

[@doobiedootwo3517]

You are an incredibly skilled and caring Aquarist Joey, crap happens and you do and have done the very best for them. So sorry you have lost them 😢. Go and give Tyreece a cuddle 😘

[@boons8102]

Sorry for your loss Joey

[@laurawilson5666]

Man that hurts. I love Stingrays too. I didn't know that they could be violet like that. Big Warm Hugs!!!!!!

[@LMA-vk5co]

When a female gets pregnant she feels that she will need to protect her young by killing everything that believes is a threat. The other female by getting pregnant by the male is a threat, the male itself is a threat. That's why you need to separate the prego one temp then she can be back with everyone after she has the pups. Sorry that happened to you but that's the way we learned for disgrace because sometimes it's not too much info in exotics and we can only learn when crap happens. And I know it sucks when it happens. They were beautiful! 😢. And she will hunt the others that she didn't do this time because she is prego and she is going to be more aggressive until the pups come out. Try to use a 300+ (you know, bigger the better) gal tub for her only until she gives birth. Then she can be back. A few exotics are like that because they are not in the hobby long enough and/or not too popular because of their size. After she had the pups separate the pups(but you know that) then wait a few weeks like 3 to introduce her back it's for her hormones to get stable and everything will be back to normal.

[@diane5124]

Sorry for your loss with the rays.

[@dmitryd7159]

sorry for the loss joey... couldnt finish the video 🥲

[@Griggs1981]

Maybe u could of kept the males females in separate tanks If they get aggressive

[@rich81090]

I normally have anywhere between 40 and 60 rays and I rarely keep the males with females, as you said the aggression is surreal, they just don’t quit.

[@schmoe6909]

All I know is you are doing your best, joey, I know you're sad, but it's just part of life.

[@padres6116]

Sorry for your loss Joey.

[@chrisp7641]

I remember watching the video of you getting them. Been around since before that, but still. I enjoyed watching them grow up. I was looking forward to seeing the potential pups. Kinda sad now. Sorry Joey. That's always a rough time losing a family member like that. And yes, after caring for them for so long, they are family.

[@_BADCHESS]

Sorry this happened, Joey. Keep up the awesome work. I just setup my 180 gallon again.

[@wheelman024]

Sorry about your loss Joey.

[@gg1winbattlefield197]

I’ve only ever gotten emotional over two videos I’ve watched on KZbin, that being Brian and Steve’s passing.. this one hit me just as hard, I remember the first video they made their appearance.. I’m truly sorry for your loss my friend.. the whole community is here for you!

[@talls2203]

Sorry for your lost my friend keep up the good work thou

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

Sorry big Joey! I know how much u love those rays and they are part of ur family! 🫶👊😥

[@chriscasey7113]

I am so sorry Joe. I can’t imagine how hard this video was.

[@stefanovanenio]

Ahh dude, I'm sorry you lost these beautiful fish. But yet again Joey shows us the highs and lows of the hobby....unedited. I love the honesty...as painful as it is. Keep smiling my friend.

[@ericwestmorland]

Sorry for your loss bud. You work with life, you work with death.

[@danielletracyann]

Oh no!! She went cray cray. Sorry about the loss. I know the rays are your fav

[@shadowheat1]

Rip 🪦 to your sting rays, they were beautiful for 8 years. It’s heartbreaking 💔 to lose a pet after so many years. My German Shepherd only lived 7 years. However, I hope you find peace in knowing that you did your due diligence.

[@yogigbear]

Condolences on the loss and, as others have stated already, some of us have been here seeing these ray's grow up so we feel your pain too. Shared pain is hopefully half the pain. Stay strong brother 💪🏽🙏🏽

[@urbansk8r231]

Very sorry for your loss, especially how long you had them. Animals we keep are unpredictable. You can read as many books on their behaviour, then you'll get that rogue one. When something similar happened to me and with my anxiety - at 1st I started beating myself up, saying I'm responsible for their wellbeing. It was my fault. I'm a bad fish keeper ect. But with experience comes wisdom. I know these things happens in our hobby to even the most seasoned people. To me even if I lose 1 shrimp, I feel sad, cause a fish, shrimp means just as much as much to me as a dog, cat or parrakeet. So thanks mate for sharing the dark dank side of the hobby. It's very important to see both sides. Cheers from Nemo's Country

[@douggiles7647]

Damn, I'm sorry for your loss man... I've watched your channel for about 7 years now and this hurts me so I'm sure it's tearing you up even more, even if you're not showing it, but that's probably shock like you said. I really don't think you could have done anything to prevent it either, at least not without somehow seeing it coming. We have to remember that these are wild animals and as much as we believe we can account for and control everything they'll always find a way to prove we can't.

[@shel.b.1090]

Oh joey I’m so sorry for your loss, that sucks but please don’t beat yourself up. I remember when you bought those 3 , 8years ago. You are one of the best fish keepers in the hobby and I love your transparency and honesty. Sadly as you know, sudden deaths happen. I don’t think anything you did exacerbated what ever had been brewing. Hormones change everything as any parent knows xxx

[@gershon222]

I so sorry about your stingrays... Thank you for being a blessing to us by making significant videos on fish keeping. 🙏🏽✅💪🏾

[@sandyloyst1811]

Joey, so sorry, 8 years man, people it's like losing two dogs/cats at once. I crying with ya! Peace. TEAM JOEY

[@TommyGunz327]

Maybe they killed each other fighting to mate. She doesn’t look beat up

[@moemonkee9399]

Sorry for your loss!!

[@brightrozario7769]

sorry for your loss joey.

[@ADayWithT]

Damn. I’m still shocked at this. 😮😢

[@stewart8727]

this is why you're the king! you care, we all see you care!

[@karenh-vy1tj]

Sooo sorry for your loss. Whether is a fish cat dog horse they are still a pet that you take care of. The hurt is the same for one as another. So many of us have pets and gone thru loss so know youre not alone with the hurt. Keep your chin up you have the small ones maybe its time to rehom her if you can i know thats more loss but you may feel better in ghe end

[@briancooke2435]

I think your female is about to have her pup soon in the mail and female shenanigans triggered something like a defense mechanism in them just don’t let it get u down and remember how little they were crazy socks, but no one could call this