Fencing out Deer and Other Critters (According to Research) + What We Plant This Late in the Season

[@GeorgeLucas1138]

I am a farmer and live in heavy michigan deer country. The only thing I have seen work is stringing up metal pie tins along a make shit "fence" got this from a much older farmer after deer devastated my families vegetable garden. I put two 6" tins together and string them down from a wire fence. Really simple setup dont overthink it. I do a set about 30' apart and on the corners. I have not noticed deer damage at all this since doing this. The sound of the pie tins along with the shine of the light off them as they turn slowly FREAKS them out and it even freaks me out sometimes when im out there

[@RichThomasInfo]

😂😂 freak out

[@charliefoxtrot6017]

Are you talking small deer? Here in Australia where I live we get huge red deer that stand as tall as me, weighing hundreds of kilograms. We use a tractor bucket to lift them. They step over 4ft fences. Trip over a second wire fence 4ft out, breaking the wire, and keep coming. The only solution we’ve found is a .308 delivered at high speed. They damage our ornamental trees as well as fruit trees. We have our main veggie garden caged. A local hunter has seen red deer go over an 8ft fence so no bambis in my area. Would love a simple cost effective solution. I’m looking at densely hedging the yards with camellias which happily grow to 12ft here … I just need maybe 2000 plants. Luckily they self seed but it will be a long term project. 250 camellias in pots …

[@nikkireigns]

Need to try a make shit fence 😂

[@LyleWaugh-y2g]

@@charliefoxtrot6017 In the US when someone just says “deer” they usually mean Whitetail deer. There are a few other species, Mule deer and Blacktail deer can be found in the western US. Full grown whitetail males are an average of about 4ft at the shoulders and maybe 200+ pounds. I’ll let you convert that into metric. Elk are taller and 750+ pounds. Usually found in the Rockies and Pacific Northwest. Although there are pockets of them in the Appalachians. Moose are huge and can weight up to 1500 pounds. Only in the very northern states, mostly in Canada.

[@duane9166]

@@charliefoxtrot6017 US Deer = EU Hart US Elk = EU Deer US Moose = EU Elk (more or less - relative sizes depends on subspecies characteristics)

[@chriskimber7179]

Deer Fencing! I am an urban farmer in the rocky mountains of BC. We have many deer! Bears too, but only outside of town. FIRST Posts -the best are steel! T posts are pretty cost effective and easy to install. The absolute best are used drill bit if you can find them! I live a couple hours from Alberta (oil country) and used 10' to 30' pieces of 3" steel 'drill bit' are commonly available at prices competitive with 4x4 cedar. These last forever, probly organic -hard to cut though. SECOND 6' welded wire fence is fine for deer if you add an extra string 1ft up! Much cheaper to buy and manage! Requires cheaper posts. Double low fence doesn't stop them (4' x 4'), I'm afraid. I built a compost bin fence across my front yard and they hop it no problem. THIRD Under Strip! I finally figured this out 3 years ago and have used it on my most recent fences and it is AWESOME! I used 8" strips of salvaged steel or aluminum roofing/siding and place it flat directly under the wire, bridging at least 4" on either side. This keeps weeds from growing into your wire and allows you to mow up to the fence -no string trimmer required. Just put the mower wheel on the strip and the blade should trim it neatly. Cardboard too temporary, plastic disintegrates too. Alternatively, if you have garden bed against the strip you can run a hoeing blade under the strip (like a colinear hoe) and easily dislodge any sneaky weeds trying to invade from the outside. This can save you hours and looks super tidy. En Garde!

[@ximono]

A little bit related: I use 8" aluminum strips (cheapest nonplastic noncorrosive lawn edging that I could find) buried vertically in the ground around small kitchen garden areas to stop creeping weeds from eating it up from the outside. Works great, and well worth the cost if you ask me. Nice trick to lay it flat under fences, I'll have to remember that.

[@mhansen111]

That's what I finally had to go to. In Missouri, the weeds will get 7-8 feet tall (not kidding) in a matter of weeks. I burned, sprayed, laid down gravel with strong weed barrier fabric, etc. and they just come back stronger (they literally grew in the gravel on the weed barrier). But, I take scrap roof sheet metal and lay that down with some stakes or just put wood on it to keep it from blowing away and no more weeds.

[@abydosianchulac2]

A thought about the strong smelling plant issue. I've never seen animals deterred by having mint or alliums planted near desirable plants, but this past year I tore up some chives I had growing and scattered them on some outdoor potted plants the chipmunks were constantly digging into. Instead of having 2-3 pots ravaged per day, I think it became one per week. So if you are trying to use those strong-smelling plants to keep animals at bay, I'd say make sure to bruise a few leaves every other day or so to make sure they're as potent as we think they are

[@sc-dw6gt]

we've hit upon this genius poly-useful list idea: 3 years ago, I made the little list on the usual scrap of paper. Of course, everything on the list didn't get done before I needed to make the next list. So, I taped the second list to the first (our lists are torn quarter-sheets of printer paper). And so on. When the taped-together list reached more than a foot long, I wrote the month/date on it. It was easy to fold/roll it up as we went along. By the end of the season, the list was almost 5 feet long but, as we soon learned (because we'd added the date now and then), it was also an awesome sequential easy-to-access record of everything that had happened in the season! When did we plant those fava beans last fall? Right here, in October! and so on. So, once they've been used for their "list" purpose, the lists morph into the world's easiest-to-access "journal." You're welcome!

[@devinsullivan7233]

I just remember all the info from years past. 16 years so far full time

[@jangsy33]

Mark Rober’s backyard squirrel maze gave me a new appreciation for their agility and cunning mind. Hysterical laughs watching them navigate the maze, softened my heart toward those destructive thieves.

[@elsmooth12]

Paper list all the way...the hand-brain connection for me is strong. And I can totally relate to your "listless" comment...days I fail to list out are days my production is wholly unsatisfying.

[@JohannF-w7d]

Entlistungsfreude: “the satisfaction achieved by crossing things off lists.”

[@jessicalacasse6205]

i wonder how german became allergic to space between words ...

[@jvin248]

I learned the list game through 1990s Franklin Planners. Later I leapt to folding up a sheet of standard photocopy paper into eighths and treated it like a nearly zero thickness minimalist pocket notebook I could open to different pages. I replaced it whenever it either got full or too worn, transferring any still open tasks to the new one. It's a lot more useful than a fragile phone in a pocket.

[@duane9166]

Ingenious tech - how much were the consultants that designed your system?😄

[@arthurr8670]

If your phone is fragile, you aren't buying the correct phone. My phone has survived so much. I'm pretty sure it's not going to buy a sudden death, more of a lot of small issues building up. The biggest issue is the battery at 2.5 years old. Even that isn't bad, I just use it a lot.

[@courtneydohrman-aspenhillh4630]

Aspiring Farmer here! I love lists 🥰 paper lists and my planner are my preferred list making methods

[@rickthelian2215]

I’m in Australia, onions , garlic carrots and potatoes, tomatoes are popping up already😊

[@ximono]

Everything is backwards in the Upside Down 😀

[@sociopathmercenary]

Our deer are basically pets. The fawns will sneak up behind us while we're working in the garden and nudge us from behind. My wife plants a boundary of marigolds around the garden and, perhaps coincidentally, the deer never touch our garden. However, they have lots of other food sources. Farm fields, orchards, nut trees, etc. The chipmunks and rabbits munch on a few things but it really isn't that bad.

[@zgoat4127]

your just to dam kind my sister sees 1 chipmunk and turn into elmer fudd instantly

[@ximono]

I'm all for paper lists! I was recently inspired by a very organized classical musician, who always pulls up a tiny leather bound pocket almanac thing that he writes everything down in. He's using it for planning his busy life, but I'm thinking I want something like that for all sorts of lists. I think the leather is important, because it makes it more durable but also more pleasant to use. I did invent a system for reminding me what I should focus on, back when I had some memory issues. It consisted of a business card case that always displays the topmost card in the stack. Each card was a blank business card with the name of a topic or project written in large letters. The cards in the stack were ordered by priority, the top one being the current topic or project to focus on. The back of the cards had lines for notes or a todo list. It was easy to rearrange the cards as I changed focus, and I loved the todos/notes on the back of each card. I thought the system worked great, but I ended up no longer needing it as my memory improved. These days I only need to keep track of details _within_ a project, in other words the back of the cards. Maybe I should pick it up again just for that? Thought I'd share the idea, maybe it can be of inspiration to others. I also considered making a holder for it in the hallway, so that I would always see it before heading out the door and remember to bring it with me.

[@MiriamPendleton]

For the past 2 growing seasons, we have kept deer out of our garden by stringing a strand of monofilament on fiberglass wands (for portable fencing) about two and a half feet off the ground. Deer can't see it and when they bump into it, it freaks them out - invisible force field! It's astonishing how effective it has been and cheap and easy to mow under. For the other critters, we had a wonderful rescue dog who was very territorial and very smart. She kept all the smaller critters away, knew to stay out of the garden herself and even defended the airspace (barked at birds) but didn't chase the deer beyond what she defined as her territory. Brilliant! She had some kind of herding dog and who knows what else in her genetics. Sadly, she passed away just recently after 13 years of loyal garden guarding.... We'll see how it goes next year, but the monofilament really works on the deer who come by at night when the dog was inside.

[@arthurr8670]

Yours is probably working because you move it. I've heard this works short term (2 or so years) in a permanent installation location.

[@stephenrobb8759]

Our to do list -- is written on , or taped to, the most prominent mirror in the main room of our small home.

[@sc-dw6gt]

we built the world's easiest, most stable, attactive, dual-purpose, not-too-expensive---NO POSTS NEEDED---and effective deer fence. Here's how: get cattle panels (49-inch x16 ft), each one will span about 8 feet of your fence length, read on). Line up the panels as arches along your fence line, each touching the next at the bottom (we actually interlaced ours together at the bottom by cutting out a few pieces, but you don't have to). Then get (or have delivered) however many 9'x20' foot panels of welded wire to span your fence length (flat sheets of 6x6 inch welded wire, called remesh, or concrete mesh, or maybe something else where you live, from the lumber store). Using "hog rings" and ring plier (Decker 3 Hog Hill's Hump Rings, from your local hog supplier or Amazon ), simply fasten the fence mesh along the back of the row of cattle panel arches, as many times as you want. So stable, no posts! This fence (built by one old lady working alone) not only has kept out our local herd of 20 deer for three years (which graze right along its edge every day), but it is also attractive, serves as a support for vines in the growing season, and has plantable space beneath. In addition, for our purposes (living in a potential theft area) because the arches are about 6 feet high and the fence is about 9 feet high, the top 3 feet is too "floppy" for a person to climb on. It's an absolutely great solution, especially in areas where you can't dig fence posts. I have seen one teenage deer jump over it, of course, from a complete standstill (49 inches wide and 9 feet tall!!!!), but he had come in through an open gate and had thoroughly tested its depth and width (with his face) before jumping, an advantage not shared by deer outside the fence.

[@RustyBobbins]

Have you posted a picture or video of this anywhere you could post a link to? Sounds interesting.

[@sc-dw6gt]

@@RustyBobbins sorry, I do have pix, but---one old lady, not on insta (not even a smart phone, I email pix). In addition to being beautiful and working so well, this fence is great for someone with no fencing skills/rocky cliffs/etc.

[@one_field]

Lists: I took apart an old sliding glass door, painted the back of each giant glass panel white, and then used "bathroom mirror hangers" to mount the glass panels on the walls. Using permanent sharpie markers, I divided the boards and also made a map of the farm in one corner. The divisions include a calendar (list of dates and commitments, not a chart), a "project triage" list, a weekly goal list (what projects do we need to tackle this week?) and a daily task list (what are we doing today), as well as a pickup list for ordering supplies. Then we use dry erase markers to write in the temporary stuff on those lists. I also have a corner of each board dedicated to information that I found was constantly being referenced and had to be looked up each time. That's stuff like measurement conversions, hatching days and temps for various poultry species, brood cycles for honeybees, gestation for livestock, frost dates for fall and spring, average annual rainfall, number of growing days in the warm season, days to harvest for some annual crop varieties, weight limit for the truck, towing limit for the truck, weight limit for the trailer, dates for the hunting seasons, etc. Plus I drew a diagram of the rabbitry in sharpie, and write the breeding rabbits in each cage with dry erase marker so I can keep on top of rebreeding and kindling dates. The boards are great bc you can really get the glass clean, so it doesn't end up grimy and stained like a typical acrylic board. The sharpie lines come off with any spray-cleaner for glass, so when I need to refresh the lines or change some of the layout, it's easy to do. One board is right beside the front door, so you can't come in without seeing it. It's handy for writing messages to others on the farm, too (there's a section by name for notes), in case someone is out in the fields and doesn't have a phone with them (which is most of the time; signal is iffy here). The huge size is handy since there's so much info on it, but I'm thinking of making additional smaller glass dry erase boards for the barns and maybe a dedicated one for the rabbitry and poultry yards. Any chunk of glass works, and rolling white paint on the back is fast and easy. Great way to recycle old windows.

[@SommaRob]

List Comment. I love writing. White board, white wall (I painted one wall in my office so I could use a dry erase marker ) and of course paper. I love crossing things off. So yes I use my phone too. Simple Notes on the phone with the bullet feature all I have to do is touch the empty bullet and it fills and moves to the bottom. For large project planning I use excel. Easy to sort for priority and add other stuff, but not great in the phone. Paper, phone, usually, excel for super long lists.

[@medicinemom3620]

I heard of someone using fishing line to keep the deer out. She put the fishing line fairly far out from the garden she was protecting, when the deer run into it, they back up and won't jump because they cannot see it. She made it very clear to use fishing line that holds 30lbs plus. I have yer to get this fence going on our property, but it seems like it'll work! I'm trying it next season. Got a lot of work to do on the homestead still this year, and the race against winter is here.

[@andrewsackville-west1609]

Quite a few people in my area so this fishing line fence and they claim it works. I'm skeptical but going to try it because, why not? It's just so easy to do!

[@williamcurry185]

OK questions or potentially something you may want to make an episode on. Such as how to make plants more hardy to your climate through seeds. I read an article about people in Siberia growing oranges in trenches (old USSR soviet farm programs.) If that is possible, what would you grow that is totally out of your USDA growing zone?

[@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork]

On lists, I have the same issues with the phone.. I'm a paper list person too... and it is the MOST effective way I stay on point. I also plan out my "day of projects" when I wake up and set my mind on the tasks at hand. But lists make it so much more efficient! Excellent fencing info and based on my experience I completely agree. One other thing for squirrels is put lots of distance between tree lines and the crop.. the more "hawk and predator risk distance" they have to cover, the more they will be deterred. For winter I fall back to the grow lab indoors these days.. Spectrum controlled lighting and automated environmental controls.. It's kind f a relief after a hard season. I DO miss my greenhouse though and have plans for a future one that will be much bigger than the previous I had (Only 24 x 12). cheers!

[@79PoisonBreaker]

kohlrabi seems to be extremely cold hardy here too.

[@squidpickle4361]

For me, there is no other system that comes close to the Franklin covey two per day, whether a farmer, businessman, or a technology professional like me. There are places for meetings, expenses, track, and a big blank page for quick thoughts or notes or observations for each meeting or whatever. You create a master yearly todo/resolutions list, then another each month, then daily ones. Add , subtract, or reprioritize each day. You will never forget a task, and believe me, after a few weeks of entering something trivial each day , you'll find extra motivation and time to cross even those off. There is something quite calming about taking 10 minutes for yourself in the morning to gather your thoughts and prioritize your day before the craziness starts and blows it all up, and something deeply visceral when you can mark things completed anyway. Yes, the pages are a bit pricier than they used to be, but having everything in a nice binder where you work (or travel) and then archiving each year to be able to go back to years later as an easy reference of your life and work is well worth the investment and discipline to follow.

[@nikkireigns]

My garden is between 2 horse/cow pastures and a chicken coop and with very vocal ducks inside the garden itself. No problems with deer yet…only on year 3 though. (There are many deer that pass by to go from the woods, through the corn/soybean fields and down to the river.)

[@TheDhammaHub]

To fend of deer I have simply installed a "regular fence" (roughly 1,20 height) and added another single wire quite a bit above the rest (roughly 50-80cm). Since then, I haven't even had a deer try to jump my fences. If I wanted to be even more secure, I would just add another strand above

[@jamesbenner7283]

I have been using the same method for years. One sniff on the hot wire and they leave it alone. The hot wire also stops predators from getting to my chickens and turkeys. I live WAY out in the country and watch the deer eating the grass just outside the fence.

[@Trangjony]

Really simple setup dont overthink it. I do a set about 30' apart and on the corners.

[@66TKL]

I text myself my to do list weekly. That way it’s always with me. I update it daily.

[@denisekelley2292]

I LOVE lists. I keep my lists on paper in a small spiral notebook. The best part is marking things off and feeling like I'm actually getting things done. I would also be listless and wander without this bit of structure. Definitely has nothing to do with forgetting things if I don't write them down. I also keep a detailed garden journal in my Google Drive, divided by weeks (weather, seed sowing, harvesting, general what I did that week) Right now, I live in a neighborhood with fences everywhere. I don't have issues with deer or rabbits. We are hoping to get a place with more space in the nearish future. This info is helpful in future planning. We have high deer, elk, rabbit, all the critters pressure in my area.

[@MargiPrideaux-md7zn]

Paper lists ... rock! Nothing more satisfying. Nothing better. But bits of paper don't forecast easily. So, I've taken to using the Todoist app on my phone for the lists about things to be done on future days, but each and every morning I hand write a paper list ... and love it.

[@KokoraLife]

Great info. Seems simple, but they always seem to find another way in!

[@MikeV607]

Two rabbits in the field looking over at a sweating gardener toiling in the garden. One rabbit says to the other "You gotta wonder what's in it for him!" 20 years ago I had a problem with woodchuck(s) in the garden. I hid out and shot and killed one. Our 5 year old daughter had such a fit that you'd have thought I killed a beloved family pet. I tried a Havahart electric fence but the critters just laughed. These days I string two strands of polywire 6" and 8" or so high, hooked to a Zareba controller - the same type of electric fence used for horses, cows, and hogs! I have another strand or two on portions where deer are likely to come from. It generally works very well and once I actually saw a woodchuck try to get in, got zapped, and ran off like his butt was on fire. Then again, late in this last season, I went into the garden and scared a rabbit and he just jumped out over the electric fence. So, my fencing works well, but not perfect. 😊

[@Bizarreparade]

That joke got me. Beautiful

[@joesellers2492]

List run my life. I use a good old spiral notebook.

[@pamelamercado6902]

I live in Arizona I'm growing Tomatoes Bell peppers all the greens onions garlic and potatoes. I have an acer garden a greenhouse and a shade house so I'm able to grow a lot. I don't have deers in my area now but when I did I just used one enter wire and two outer ones at different heights. It worked real good for me.

[@kellyannriley6124]

I also enjoy paper lists, but I do often set reminders on my phone for my memory's sake.

[@clucksnducklins]

I write my lists on paper. I like using paper bc I'm more likely to actually get stuff done if it's listed physically in front of my eyes. And I agree, it is satisfying to check things off 🙂

[@DaveTheHillsideGardener]

We have a bunch of stray cats in our neighborhood. I’ve only ever seen 1 rabbit, it was umm on my sidewalk the next day and wasn’t an issue anymore. Short answer get some good outside cats.

[@tomjensen618]

I have a 4 foot high woven field fence with single strand wire every 6 inches on rachett tensioners 4 feet above that. Works fine.I use wire twisters every 4 feet running to hold the top wires together.

[@MattSmith-ks2lc]

The best fence is a living fence - beech, blackberries, hawthorn or whatever grows well in your area. It's a windbreak, provides habit and resources, such as, kindling, wood chips, food. Let it grow to 1.2m wide and 2.4m tall and it's sufficient to keep out deer, and keep sheep and horses in.

[@79PoisonBreaker]

I didn't realize how much warmer you were then me lol. my end of dec to end of feb -25 is normal and expect some -40's . Great info on deer fences that I already was aware of but always feels good hearing it from a source I trust.

[@ironmaiden3751]

Deer see out the side of their heads unlike we humans (and cows) for instance and this is why they can't and won't judge depth. We are overrun by deer here in Atlantic Canada so much so my province is considering a cull. (btw you DID miss a phenomenal Northern Lights show last month ;(. ((Teasing)) I use the aforementioned solar powered electric fencing also with a 4 wire system but I only have 2 lines not 3. The outside single line is about hip height. My 2nd line is yes, about 4 feet in from that one and has the other 3 wires the lowest of which is just high enough to facilitate the whacking of weeds. The middle wire is again about hip height and the 3rd wire is probably just above my eyeline...I'm 5'4". Haven't had any giant rodents breach my food forest in over 3 years.

[@kathryngreen4096]

Paper lists for tasks. Digital for organizing and projecting

[@LunaBellaAcres]

Voles have taken over my farm. Come spring time they wreck havoc on my seedlings

[@stevehatcher7700]

I write my lists in the evening, for tomorrow's field tasks. Gets it off my mind so I can sleep. I review the list again in the morning. Maybe add numbers on the left margin to order things by priority, or a few asterisks and exclamation points on certain tasks that NEED to get done. On the right margin I sometimes write how long I estimate each task should take. Then I take a photo of the list on my phone so I can consult it in the field. Then that evening I go over the list and scratch off what got done. Tasks that didn't get completed end up on tomorrows list. I've tried a few different to-do list type apps on my phone but none of them work well for me. Paper just does the job.

[@ronaldcummings6337]

I listened to the pfas compost podcast. It might have something to do with the host having one of the sweetest voices I have ever heard.

[@nymeriagloves3957]

i tried to grow pumpkins sunflower and corn in my small field and deer ate all of it to the ground. then cover cropped rye and they eat that to the ground too. so basically had bare dirt all season. next summer gonna grow pearl millet to atleast get good biomass deer wont eat. then im gonna electric the thing 8 feet high so i can grow whatever i want

[@LyleWaugh-y2g]

Don’t have a farm, just a backyard garden. We have our 1/2 acre back yard fenced with 6’ vinyl privacy fence. We have a few hundred acres of forest behind us. My neighbor is from Miami, and she recently moved to NC. Deer are some kind of novelty to her so she feeds them corn cobs and apples. They never jump our fence. I know they can clear 6 foot, but I think since they can’t see through it they don’t try.

[@eightysixcommunism2827]

We live in the U.P. Michigan. Deer are everywhere. Distructive and consistant. Couldnt care less if this is ther natural environment. Family food is sacred. We put up 8ft post around our garden. 2ft in the ground for stability. 5 rows of electric wire. From the ground... 10in 24in 42in 63in 84in at the top They touched the live wire once and you could hear them snorting in protest. 😂 Even when a fawn was spooked during an evening dog walk she didnt get through the fencing when she slammed into it. It stretched it by 6inches and broke two brackets but the garden remained untouched. Hope this helps someone, somewhere trying to outsmart those mammals.

[@allonesame6467]

🤣🤣Talking fish🐟 to scare the 🐿🐿🐿 Great Visual!

[@audreysmith2557]

I make lists on paper. I like crossing out the item that I’ve done. If I end up doing something that’s not on my list, I will write it down just so I can cross it off. It’s satisfying seeing what I have accomplished and that I actually have been doing something. That being said, SO many times I have left behind the paper list I’ve made when grocery shopping. I then get to play the game of “guess what was on the list” that’s laying on my kitchen table. So I make a list on my phone, like I’m sending a text to myself that I never send so that I can add to the list. God forbid that I forget taking my phone anywhere! As far as the fence goes, we lived in central Michigan with a deer highway in the area where we wanted to put our garden. We planted cedar posts every 16’ to which we attached cattle panels and put T posts halfway down the length of the panels. We tied white clothesline rope to the top of the cedar posts. We also wanted chickens, so we made a 4’ wide chicken run around this fenceline (the henhouse was situated at the corner where we placed the entry gate to the garden. The run was also 4 foot tall and completely surrounded with chicken wire. We NEVER had any deer inside our garden enclosure once we made room for the chickens. We have planted lettuces, but are still harvesting peppers, okra, celery and cabbage.

[@audreysmith2557]

We now live in the FingerLakes area of upstate New York. And our garden in Michigan was about 75’ x 75’

[@mckennahicks5259]

Cardboard factory I work at uses water resistant additives and they have their own mill so they recycle all the waste and the additives in the glue are then in the paper

[@mckennahicks5259]

So I would be Leary about using anything paper anymore we make Amazon and Walmart boxes like 1.2 million linear ft of cardboard a day we run with this stuff in it and their all doing it now a days so they can use cheaper paper and still retain water resistance

[@johnrosier1686]

We had to put up a fence to keep our dogs out. One of them liked tomatoes and the other one liked cucumbers. Sadly both of them are no longer with us. Our current two dogs like to feast on rabbits and squirrels so we no longer have a fence.

[@tomjensen618]

Don't even have a cell. Use paper list every morning and go over yesterdays list and update it. Works great!

[@lisajansson4157]

Paper lists for me. Typically on the backs of envelopes from junk mail. If I put it on the phone, I never see it again. I leave the list on the kitchen table where I see it every time I pass by or come in for a break. I also have a double fence around the raspberries, no more deer invasion.

[@karengreene4476]

I have a raccon issue. My small garden has a 4 ft fence around it to which I've attached a "live" wire half way up and use a shock box that we used for our horses. It has been very effective. They no longer get into my compost pile or the corn I grew this season.

[@brokenmeats5928]

I love ALL No-Till Growers videos!

[@pier-annelachance4960]

In Texas we are basically 4 weeks later then you in KY so I can sow things until November. We have 10h of light all year here.

[@johannakuhlin4787]

Hi, I live in Sweden. Here we have maaaany electrical cars and when they catch fire the fire department use a foam with P-FAS... And often it drains right back into the nature😵

[@stocklumina2556]

We always laminate lists we want to keep!

[@robertcotrell9810]

I have turnips coming up. I've seeded some spinach and radishes. I have a few brassicas. I'll seed some carrots and see what happens! Also still need to plant my garlic. I keep waiting too late for various things. Still pinning down timings for things. The drought didn't help either!

[@Grow-all-year]

Pretty much growing right now everything you mentioned. Have had luck last two Winters thanks in part to things I learned in the winter Growers podcast. Personal use East Central Wisconsin

[@kirstypollock6811]

Sad that PFAS is everywhere. But good that compost makers are trying. I ADORE lists. I LOVE ticking things off. For my non-paid-work life (including the gardens and orchards), I make big lists (for approx a week) on big paper, then make a daily list on a Post-it Note (means I cant overload myself. I have big messy writing). At work work, I've used some form of Agile for decades, usually Scrum with 2 week Sprints. Using Jira as the task planning tool. Also used Meister Task when I was a freelancer. There are many other tools e.g. Asana. I tried that for my own stuff, but that made everything seem too much like work, so back to post-it notes! In Europe, there's a kind of wooden fencing usually made from chestnut or black locust (had to look that up, only know the German word), and they last 20 years. 54N, N Germany. Outside I've sown Feldsalat (Lamb's lettuce), Spinach, Rucola (Arugula), winter peas (Sima and Frieda Welten to crop in spring) still got my summer sown brassicas and chard going, plus some mixed Asian greens and some spring onions(scallions, or as we called them in Scotland, siboes!). In the greenhouse tunnel I've got more Asian greens, Chinakohl (Napa Cabbage) and chard hiding under the peppers and chillies and the tomatoes (though last night may have brought tomato season finally to an end, let's see...). Also more Frieda Welten and seedlings of lettuce, Asian greens, claytonia and more Feldsalat. I desperately want to get my purple sprouting broccoli in and sow carrots, but I am hanging on hoping to get the remaining summer veg more ripe as next week is sunny and even pretty warm overnight.

[@RJ420NL]

I use my head i.e. I keep a mental list. I do occasionally miss something, but not often enough to be an issue.

[@Bizarreparade]

I like making my lists in other peoples notebooks. I don't get much done, but I have a good time. If you find a list in your notebook that you don't recognize, that was me.

[@poeticartist2nv]

Farmer jefe! Thanks again

[@brucetepke8150]

I'd be interested in a living hedge barrier (osage orange, honey locust, multiflora rose, or hawthorn) to keep critters out.

[@sandybush1661]

For keeping out vermin, what about spraying bobcat urine? The lady at my local garden supply store swears by it. Don't know much about it, and I have no idea how often you would need to repeat.

[@TheHslade3]

Heavy deer pressure here in middle GA. 2 or 3 lines of clear 20lb test monofilament takes advantage of deer’s poor depth perception. It is invisible to them and spooks them as soon as they touch it. This is the only thing that has ever worked for us and work, it does.

[@shannoncalhoun3684]

Paper list is the only way it works for me.

[@tomandtinadixon]

I LOVE lists. But Tom's MO is random. I'm trying to get him to at least adhere to a list to some degree. He is also adjusting how he works and talks with me now that we are finding a strong likelihood that I am autistic, and it REALLY is helping to move things forward around here.

[@sightline4004]

YES finally!

[@richardroadcap7957]

I have a 42" fence with 2 ft of chicken wire at the bottom. Keeps rabbits out and deer don't like to jump into an enclosed area. No cure for squirrels, they can figure out anything.

[@79PoisonBreaker]

Thankyou Merci.

[@jangsy33]

Tatsoi has survived throughout my winters in PA, zone 6b formerly, now 7b?

[@sjwestmo]

I make lists and use siri on my apple watch for reminders and timers to make sure i stay on task or take breaks

[@HeatherNaturaly]

Pyrenees have 2 claims to fame. They are the MOST loving dogs on the planet and they BARK all night long...

[@kellyannriley6124]

Bravo!

[@mattgreen3780]

Elk the size of horses and deer...tall fence is the only thing that works for me...also, im a pen and paper list guy.

[@craigdawson7632]

Do you think we can avoid consumption of PFAS & micro plastics if we are really active in avoiding it and throw a lot of money at the problem. In door or green house grows, adequately filtered water into your house and plants. RO remineralized water, making your own or using sterile substrate, not consuming food packaged in plastics. There would still be traces in wild meat, and raw soil inputs. But I wonder how much it would minimize it if you really worked towards it and just tip money all over the problem.

[@user-fe3mt4qo8o]

Does dewormer break down in horse manure when composted?

[@user-fe3mt4qo8o]

Black Locust will last far longer pressure treated wood. Like decades longer

[@ftd224]

You're on MY list. It's tiny....

[@gregorydeemer]

Don’t put western red cedar from lumber yard in ground, ten years of your lucky and it’s expensive, eastern red cedar (juniper) is much better, white sap wood will rot, so bigger logs are better with more heartwood, black locust sap wood also rots. Saw guy in video making his own concrete posts

[@hetkarklaar1419]

Just go with the Wind :D :D

[@theflexitech]

Idk wtf is up with deer, but they are loaded up for at least 40 mph, and they always manage to find ways to hop fences.

[@aenorist2431]

1:40 The problem is that this is incorrect because PFAS is a cumulative issue. They don't degrade functionally forever, so "its not as bad as it was" is an impossibility. We don't ADD as much as we did, but since we did add humongous amounts that is both a very low bar and also still an increase to the total amount in the world. Now much of that is "only" ruining various natural ecosystems and not directly impacting human health, yet, but its still among the big problems we have - after plastic pollution, but not by a lot. Of course climate change and generic environmental degradation are outsized threats, but that does not make a significant constituent issue like PFAS into "fearmongering".

[@alanw9822]

You asked for a list. I like To do list app.

[@africancichlids3011]

100 years sho sugiban

[@craigmatheson2736]

Deer problems? Not here. I have bovine problems. Pre covid I put up a barbwire fence and the cows still pushed it down and did a number to my watermelon patch 🤬

[@tomjensen618]

Making a new fence every 10 years sucks. Pressuretreated works fine, make a buffer.

[@fourdayhomestead2839]

Paper lists. I'd be overjoyed if I could only toss laptop & cellphone in a lake. Life is beyond that though.

[@anissaferringer4965]

Freaking deer!!!

[@mistalos8510]

Farm names mine whatevers clever farms most people dig it

[@judywood4530]

OR you can get PFAS into your crops becxaus your well is contaminated with that sh*r from industrual waste from a leather tanning/shoe production corporation that dump their waste over two townships. In some areas, no more well permits are being granted. Why am I so sore about this? Because there is PFAS in my well, and now I have a county supplied filter on my drinking water that I will need in perpetuity. Please do not make light of this issue.

[@opperhoofdgeilebizon]

Ok, that composter podcast is far out 😵‍💫 back to the show (note to self: do not click links in shownotes) 🫣