Fender CIJ vs MIJ: Why Does One Cost More?

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@ありちゃん-t5k
@ありちゃん-t5k 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a lot more simple than this. The Fujigen contract with Fender stipulated that if another company were contracted to make guitars for fender other than Fujigen they would not be able to use "made in japan".
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! That did not come up in our research, but it would make a lot of sense. We will have to look into it.
@jamespark4268
@jamespark4268 Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 Жыл бұрын
This is correct, that was the agreement.
@deaddoll1361
@deaddoll1361 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the 10 second version instead of the meandering 10 minute one.
@rvlewis1950
@rvlewis1950 Жыл бұрын
Do you have documentation of that?
@nedgiles7885
@nedgiles7885 9 ай бұрын
I visited the Tokai factory in Hamamatsu in 2018 and the CEO Mr. Adachi told me that they never struck a deal with Fender and never produced for Fender. That it was all Fujigen and later Dyna Gakki.
@mralgebro
@mralgebro 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! I have a 97 CIJ Fender Telecaster. It was quite expensive and I wondered why I was seeing other MIJ guitars listed for less. This kinda makes sense now. By the way, the guitar is awesome. The rosewood is unlike any other I’ve seen even from USA Gibson models.
@GoodmanRecordingsTokyo
@GoodmanRecordingsTokyo Жыл бұрын
This is the coolest string commercial ever. I'm really interested in trying String Joy. The music, the lightning, and the information was spot on. It's not easy to get this info with just English, but you guys nailed it.
@ChrisHawkins_73
@ChrisHawkins_73 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of information here, some correct and some incorrect. In 1982 Fender partnered with Kanda Shokai and Yamano Gakki for form Fender Japan. Kanada Shokai is a music company that owned brands, but they did not make any guitars of their own. Their best known brand is Greco. In 1981 Greco released it's Super Real series and Fernades launched it's Revival series. Both of these lines were from of a small team (2 people) of consultants working with both Fujigen and various brands in Japan (Kanda Shokai). Part of the agreement Kanda Shokai made with Fender is that they would stop producing Fender copies under the Greco name. Within months Fender Japan was producing guitars that had all the hallmarks of Greco guitars (and Fernandes Revivals as well). I think it would be safe to say that they were most likely relabeling Greco's as Fender. It is correct that the first Squier guitars were essentially the same as the regular Fender Japan guitars, but with a different name so they could export them and not compete with themselves. This arrangement remained till the mid 90's when Fender started to bring Dyna Gakki on board (also located in Matsumoto, Nagano) to produce guitars. It is around this time that the 'Crafted in Japan' labels start appearing. Around 1997 Fender Japan stop having Fujigen produce guitars for them. I don't know why so many sites say that Fender has it's own factory in Japan. It does not, never had. They did dissolve the original Fender Japan (with Kanda Shokai and Yamao Gakki) in 2015 and launched a new 'Fender Japan'. They have been using Dyna Gakki since the mid to late 90s. When they first started working with Dyna Gakki they brought Tokai on board for a little less than 2 years while Dyna Gakki updated their facilities. They have recently gone back to Fujigen for some models (such as the Modified JV series). The golden age of Japanese guitars would be the early 80's. Greco's Super Real and Fernandes Revival series are some of the best guitars this country has produced. My 1984 Fernandes RST-50 is by FAR the best guitar I have ever played. I have Fender Japan guitars from the mid to late 80s as well (Made in Japan). I also have a 1984 Yamaha strat copy that was also built by Fujigen. In addition I have a 1991 Fujigen Squier Strat, a 1999 Epihone Japan SG70 (also Fujigen). My 1999 Burny RLC (Les Paul Custom) was made by Dyna Gakki. Just some tips from a guitar nerd that has been in the land of the rising sun since the mid 90s ;). Oh and a pet peeve of mine, Fujigen is pronounced with a hard G (like saying Ken but with a G).😎
@tacoman8796
@tacoman8796 Жыл бұрын
hi Chris thanks for info - so what are your thoughts on a fender jaguar and jazz masters from 1984-1987, 1986 made in japan era? cheers
@tacoman8796
@tacoman8796 Жыл бұрын
ps also crafted in japan with the serial number as starting with s/n A0 etc ?
@ChrisHawkins_73
@ChrisHawkins_73 Жыл бұрын
@@tacoman8796 Anything MIJ from the early 80's to early 90's are AMAZING guitars, especially if it was Fujigen or Tokai made. That is the era I am always on the look out for when I patrol the local thrift shops here. I have not seen a lot of Jazz Masters or Jags from that era, mostly strats and teles. But if ever come across one, there are chances it would come home with me 😎 Crafted in Japan era is when more of the 'cost cutting' measures started. Still quality built instruments (mostly in regards to detail and finish) and are still in that 'best bang for the buck' category. As for 'Crafted in Japan' A0 serial, is this a tele? I believe the A0 serials were finished before the 'Crafted in Japan' labeling started. But I could be wrong, I just haven't seen any. My 1991 Fender Japan TL52 (52 reissue Tele) is a A06 serial - which would place it around the 6th to 7th year of the A0 serial (which started in 84/85).
@dep1001
@dep1001 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! I have an 1997 Fender Jaguar (CIJ) and a 2002 Fender Jazzmaster (CIJ). Both lovely guitars. Thanks :)
@jaycollins9244
@jaycollins9244 3 ай бұрын
I have had em all folks!!! Eric Clapton custom shop strats, American strats, Deluxe strats, standard strats, Mexican strats, you name it! I just picked up a few months ago a Japan made strat from 2013. It is the dragon finish that was made with another model that was the Geisha Girls version. There is NO comparison between these guitars and the American models. These guitars are absolutely exquisite! It is a 62 reissue and I can't stress enough the attention to fit and finish from the frets to intonation every where all the way up the neck. You can't slide a cigarette paper in between the neck and the joint to the body! And the sound is out of this world! This strat will never leave me!!
@holywood60
@holywood60 5 ай бұрын
Found your video just by happenstance, worth the watch! Very interesting and informative, thank you. I bought a MIJ 84 strat, actually had it shipped from Japan to the UK (where I was living at the time) after retuning home from a night of drinking, then brought it back with me to Canada when I returned home to retire. Guitar is amazing to play, craftmanship is evident. I also have a 71 US strat, which is also nice, which I bought in the early 80's, also after a night of drinking whilst playing a show at a biker bash. I'm not a collector, I actually like to play, mostly at home these days. My guitar purchases stopped after I quit drinking, but after watching your video, I guess I made good decisions while inebriated! I assure you, I made some poor choiced while pissed too, have a couple of ex wives to prove! Anyway, I do have a question. How do I know if the MIJ is all original, what things can I check (outside the obvious serial number) to see if I have one of these "gems"? Not looking to sell, but more of an interest thing. Fact is, the grandkids will inherit my guitars, I'll play them till I can't, death or arthritis, whichever comes first. I've done some cursory searches, but you seem well informed about these guitars, so any help you could five me would be greatly appreciated. Again, great video, many thanks!
@JasonDinh-z3d
@JasonDinh-z3d 4 ай бұрын
I just ordered a 2004-2005 CIJ Jaguar. I am super stoked
@davidreilly2326
@davidreilly2326 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent history. Thank you. My CIJs and a frankenstrat with an MIJ neck were all fine instruments. All sold off now. I'm down to 2 90s MIMs (S & T) and a sweet Waterslide Rona T. I love them all. Vintage Schmintage. I'm vintage!
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Those Waterslides are 🔥🔥🔥
@h.p.brownsaucecraft7966
@h.p.brownsaucecraft7966 6 ай бұрын
I have had both over the last 30 years and honestly honestly I noticed no difference between them. They both played fantastic
@alexcain3638
@alexcain3638 10 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the video. But there must be a mistake: I have a Crafted in Japan Comp Mustang (SN: P 09...) which the guitar data project classifies as made in Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan in 1993 - 1994. What do you think, Stringjoy?
@RoanAudioWorks
@RoanAudioWorks Жыл бұрын
First thing I did when I got to my Navy duty station in Yokosuka was run out to a local music store and grabbed me a new CIJ Jaguar in 2007. I had no idea there was a following/demand for the CIJ, I just wanted a Jag!
@PeterPug
@PeterPug 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid...talk about "naiveté" and more likely snobbery: I went to buy an amp 25 years ago and the lady was selling a Tele with it. I refused because it was a Squier "Made in Japan". YIKES! Fortunately, she insisted they be sold as a pair and, to my surprise, once I got it home and set up it was a FANTASTIC guitar...it's a JV Butterscotch. The website you mentioned dates it between 1984-1987 with the bridge serial number, however the neck stamp indicates late 1982!?? I have since bought a 90's CIJ 60's-reissue Strat. Also a great guitar..
@daleonov
@daleonov 2 жыл бұрын
Also, interesting fact is that Japan (crafted or made) Jazzmasters are way more exprensive than other models like Japanese strats and teles. Almost on par with American made.
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's wild TBH
@adamgoodell5805
@adamgoodell5805 Жыл бұрын
this is true for Japanese Mustangs and Jaguars, as well. For some reason they are generally pricier than Japanese Teles and Strats. I think this may be because for a number of years Japan was the only place to make the Fender off sets (all through the 90s) and they are believed to be some of the closest versions of these guitars to the originals from the 60s. I don't think Fender America started making the off sets again until like 2010
@TTobyyyy
@TTobyyyy 7 күн бұрын
@@adamgoodell5805i own a 2008 CIJ mustang. Omg it plays perfect
@arthurguerra2582
@arthurguerra2582 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the Japanese fenders and this clears up a lot for me better then any forum on the internet.
@jldkrank
@jldkrank 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan's other channel is Demos In The Dark, he's a great player and reviewer!
@mig1059
@mig1059 7 ай бұрын
Well spoken and good information. This is the best no non sense info about these guitars on KZbin. Well done 😊
@jamiboothe
@jamiboothe 10 күн бұрын
Thank you! From hopefully a MIJ future owner. Japanese optics are also quite superb.
@kikoxify
@kikoxify 8 ай бұрын
Got a March '97 Telecaster double humbuckers ❤️ Just want to know how much does it cost now? 🥰 Awesome video! Thank you!
@jbert6793
@jbert6793 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 87 MIJ telecaster that I love and will never sell.
@evanmason5368
@evanmason5368 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’ve got a Squier Vista Venus guitar CIJ in 1997. It’s suuuuper nice. I guess it makes sense, I had no idea it was worth so much until recently
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Guitars are always a personal thing. MIM is the lowest Fender imho, MIJ , FGN, Tokai and USA are debatable, I personally prefer a MIJ or FGN over a USA Fender. (This is not bringing in player series and Squire). But then again A Les Paul I rate much higher than a Fender.
@NeilTurnbull007
@NeilTurnbull007 2 жыл бұрын
Informative video !! . I'm always amazed at just how complicated and diverse the fender production system became over the years ! I own a CIJ Malmsteen Strat which according to Fender & the serial number was built between 1997 & 2000 . I don't know of its value but -I do like it and it sounds and plays very good ,which I guess is the mist important thing !
@TheTrollMastah
@TheTrollMastah 2 жыл бұрын
I have a crafted in Japan jazzmaster neck.. not sure what to do with it
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a body and make something of it!
@TheAmazingSnarf
@TheAmazingSnarf Жыл бұрын
such great information here! many thanks, and i string my 21 MIJ Jazzmaster Noir with StringJoy's customs. it's a good life.
@ZachComa
@ZachComa Жыл бұрын
I have a '98 CIJ '68 Reissue Strat that I picked out by chance because it was slightly different from the others in a sea of Strats on the wall at a music store in Chicago and stood out with a natural ash finish and giant late 60s headstock. It was my first real guitar after learning to play for a few years on on a cheapo Strat copy my cousin gifted me. I had no idea at the time what I had purchased, I just liked it above the others. Edit: I used the lookup site mentioned and it says my CIJ is 97-98' was made in the Fujigen factory. That's weird, it should be dated earlier and/or be called MIJ instead if it's from that factory.
@pharmerdavid1432
@pharmerdavid1432 Жыл бұрын
Japan uses basswood often, instead of alder, and while basswood can sound good and is generally lighter in weight - as poplar is, I prefer alder. Probably the more expensive Japanese guitars use alder (and ash), but the Jazzmasters in my price ranger were basswood. CIJ strats and telecasters are usually basswood too. The MIJ stuff probably used more of the traditional wood varieties?
@MrInfinite43
@MrInfinite43 4 ай бұрын
Suhr uses basswood, exclusively
@JayMathy
@JayMathy 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 CIJ strat and am having so much trouble trying to find info about it. Is it safe to assume it's a Toakai?
@wilfredmcgillicuddy7902
@wilfredmcgillicuddy7902 Жыл бұрын
By far, the best strat I've ever had is my CIJ 07 ST54-120 DMC. Beast of a strat! Try'm, you'll like'm.
@fernandogarajalde4066
@fernandogarajalde4066 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve played a few Tokai strats and P-bass models. One of these days I might own one.
@michaelshearer3559
@michaelshearer3559 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, great tips! It's all about the neck for me, I can make them all sing if they have a great chunky neck.
@toddsmods.623
@toddsmods.623 Жыл бұрын
My 86 Tokai Super Edition it's the best playing and built strat I've ever came across
@PaulReno
@PaulReno 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a 95 MIJ Jazzmaster which I acquired at a reasonable price. However I've seen these go at price points that are way to high. I'm going to keep mine, though since it's been with me for almost 20 years.
@markotten1755
@markotten1755 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative! Never knew Tokai actually made Fenders in the past. Thanks!
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
Springy Tone!
@RajTamil
@RajTamil Жыл бұрын
I have a CIJ 2004 '72 Custom Tele RI. It says that it was made by Fuji-gen factory
@eternallearner8185
@eternallearner8185 3 ай бұрын
I have both the cij and mij Jazzmasters, both excellent except for the pickups, they were a little too thin in sound and lifeless and nothing like a true Jazzmaster pickup, both had pickups changed to aftermarket Jazzmaster pickups and I fitted both with Staytrem Mustang like bridges that are 52mm E to E, and are very good instruments.
@vyger6336
@vyger6336 Жыл бұрын
I bought one new Fender Strat in 1984'-85 MIJ for $175.00 and the workmanship is outstanding. I still own it and will never sell it ...
@jamestunnell3359
@jamestunnell3359 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at a CIJ jaguar from 99, but guitar dater is saying that it was made at fujigen and not tokai. Is it still one of the good ones?
@EchoReverb6
@EchoReverb6 4 ай бұрын
fo sho ,no matter fuji or tokai
@doomk2020
@doomk2020 Жыл бұрын
So the neck has to be labeled CIJ correct ??
@JosefRosam
@JosefRosam 2 жыл бұрын
Guitars are still built in the fujijen plant today though!
@MrPinkStrat
@MrPinkStrat Жыл бұрын
The Early 80'S ( 82 JV Fender logo ) JAPANESES FENDERS were made to Leo Fender's Blue Prints
@indigoburst
@indigoburst 2 жыл бұрын
How can you tell if it's a Tokai? I've got a '97 Jag and some serial databases say Tokai, some say Fujigen, how were you able to determine that yours is a Tokai?
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 Жыл бұрын
The original agreement was is it is Fuji gen it is MIJ, the agreement is that any other company producing Fenders that is not Fuji must be CIJ.
@dukeofearl4117
@dukeofearl4117 2 жыл бұрын
What about the guitars made in Mexico around 2001? And what about the current guitars coming out of Corona? I have a Made in Mexico 2001 Jazz Bass and a 2021 Acoustasonic Jazzmaster. I’m still beating myself up for selling my 1962 Precision Bass.
@RobertJSedky
@RobertJSedky 11 ай бұрын
Great video! 🙌🏼🎸
@SophieShell-h7l
@SophieShell-h7l Жыл бұрын
My 93-94 MIJ 68 ri Fender strat is better by far than all my name brands. Just picking it up makes me play better.
@AJbassist
@AJbassist 2 жыл бұрын
my fender is FGN era still own this bass use custom 110-50 stringjoy set on ;) , later got fgn p bass for price of mexican fender :)
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice!
@AJbassist
@AJbassist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stringjoy thx u I think so too , I can play from e to c standard :)
@hanieldill1963
@hanieldill1963 2 жыл бұрын
I own three 1984 Tokai Strats and a 1984 Tokai Talbo. Great guitars! If the house was on fire and I could only grab one guitar it would be the 80s Tokai version of a '54 strat (eight hole pick guard and 7.25 radius neck)
@tonyevans9999
@tonyevans9999 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I have a '95 54 reissue, it's a glorious looking, playing and sounding guitar
@ralex3697
@ralex3697 Жыл бұрын
I owned a Tokai, it played better than my American strat
@UltimateEngineering
@UltimateEngineering 2 жыл бұрын
All MIJ guitars I played were superior to US made ones.
@danejurus69
@danejurus69 2 жыл бұрын
Of course. Japanese people take more pride in their work than Americans do.
@Blueguitar007
@Blueguitar007 Жыл бұрын
The pick-ups and hardware are shit though. Had to swap out pups on both.
@joanlledo6367
@joanlledo6367 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Tokai AST-88 (now AST-95)... I think it can be compared with a MIJ Fender because Tokai made guitars for Fender.
@christianjamet884
@christianjamet884 2 жыл бұрын
HELLO? I have a STRAOCASTER "made in JAPAN" serial C can you say me where it's built and what is this age
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
You can lookup Fender serial numbers here: serialnumberlookup.fender.com/lookup/
@johnwadden4201
@johnwadden4201 Жыл бұрын
Got my eye on a cij. Great video!
@Hammerman48
@Hammerman48 Жыл бұрын
Japanese Fender are always good….period. I’ve owned CIJ and MIJ……they have all been excellent. The are as good as any USA Fender guitar I have owned or played.
@geraldmckellar
@geraldmckellar 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I own a 1986 Contemporary Strat from Japan and it is great quality! Has a cool black neck and headstock and some beautiful sounding pickups. Coincidentally, I found this video because I am considering purchasing a Japanese Jaguar, and wanted to know the difference between them all. Thanks!
@marcusgraf4510
@marcusgraf4510 3 ай бұрын
Great explanation 🎉 Thank you😊
@samborn7120
@samborn7120 Жыл бұрын
I own a 1993 Japanese 50’s Telecaster built in the Fuji-Gen Plant and it reads “Crafted In Japan”. There was some crossover apparently. It’s a superior guitar and one of my favorites, so either they were having a good day at that factory or it is a production fluke that it’s so great sounding and playing. Thanks for the informative Vid!
@elbib2446
@elbib2446 2 жыл бұрын
fender have never owned a plant in japan,they are still made at dyna gakki under contract,dyna also produce their own high end kaminari guitars etc ,original tosin abassi sig guitar,vola guitars,which arent fender associated.facts mij fujigen 82 to 97,with dyna helping with large orders 92 ,hence first cij. dyna and fuji gen are only 35 klm apart in the nagano prefecture,japan,and both have made greco,burny fernandes,ibanez badges as well as fender at various stages.the official change to cij was late 96/early 97.tokai were brought in for a very short while, so dyna had time to expand to take bigger orders.the tokai cij fenders were sold only in japan,so if you didnt buy the guitar in japan,then probably dyna.fender and tokai links have allways been tenuos,after a spat they had in early 80s,when tokai was really rattling fenders cage,but by 97 ,fender/squier japan had eaten into tokai sales,so they needed the work,and only worked with fender for less than a year.dyna was the actual recognized new fender japan factory,and still are,though they are not owned by fender.to confuse matters,dyna went back to using mij instead of cij again in 2007,dyna also reused serials from a to u,so without referring to the cij dyna 92.it goes like this 82 to 97 mij fujigen,97 to present day 2022 dyna gakki,with some cij made by tokai in 97 only,which were only sold in the japanese domestic market .this is dyna gakki www-guitarblog-ru.translate.goog/Dyna-Gakki/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
@elbib2446
@elbib2446 2 жыл бұрын
simplified fujigen mij 82 to 97,dyna ,some tokai 97 only,to 2007 cij,dyna mij 2007 to present day mij
@anthonyneal8556
@anthonyneal8556 2 жыл бұрын
great info!
@glenmuller6015
@glenmuller6015 4 ай бұрын
i have a lake placid blue bought it in 1993
@robertbodle2354
@robertbodle2354 2 жыл бұрын
"squire" sp?
@error404m
@error404m Жыл бұрын
I have a '97 CIJ Jaguar, and it will never leave me either. Japanese guitars (at least from the 90s) were not *better* than American. They were more consistent.
@steelesaldutti
@steelesaldutti 10 ай бұрын
So my 93 MIJ jag isn’t as good?
@MrInfinite43
@MrInfinite43 4 ай бұрын
Early MIJs are way better than CIJs
@mdominic
@mdominic 3 ай бұрын
All Japanese Fender guitars of any era are relatively equal. They are all great, because the Japanese never looks at something that's not finished properly and say "that's good enough ." They take pride in every aspect of their work. This is why as good as American Fender guitars are, Japan Fender is better.
@chocolatecookie8571
@chocolatecookie8571 2 жыл бұрын
Guitars never gets boring 😂😆
@rudewalking
@rudewalking 6 ай бұрын
damn good info
@victoryhousemusic
@victoryhousemusic 2 ай бұрын
Son, I am half way in and you STILL haven't got to the point. I will never click on you again.
@WillieD7
@WillieD7 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of MIJ commanding a premium over CIJ until now. I think it comes down to particular models more than anything. I own an E-Series Squier (MIJ, late 80’s), a CIJ TL62 (early 2000’s), and formerly owned a 72 Custom Tele (Late 90’s, I think it read MIJ). The Squier is a great piece but the original electronics were sub par. The 72 had a great neck but the Basswood body felt like dried out driftwood and the pickups were terrible. TL62 is great all around (has USA made pickups) except for an ugly threaded barrel bridge. My point I suppose is that I don’t think the factory makes a heap of difference and there has always been a breadth of instruments coming out of “Fender Japan” and the quality can vary a lot. Squier Bullets (MIJ) were never particularly good guitars and a lot were cannibalized for their necks (which were swell). MIJ Squier Teles had a goofy, non standard, toploader bridge. During the early 2000’s when Fender Japan ran their own website (or piggybacked on Ishibashi’s) it was really easy to see general quality gradients by price. They made some pretty basic stuff in the sub 49,999yen range and then it went up nearly double that for fancier stuff. It can be difficult on the second hand market figuring out what exactly you’re looking at and what the original MSRP was. I could go on about other factors like how MIJs were hugely depreciated for decades and how relative scarcity in the US has driven up prices (if you ever visit Japan, used guitars are dirt cheap) but I’d say the only constant is that MIJ/CIJ pickups have never been particularly great.
@tidepoolbay
@tidepoolbay 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Lot of Made In Japan Fenders! WooF!!
@brennanferguson3537
@brennanferguson3537 Жыл бұрын
I think the MIJ guitars of the 80's were better than the 70's/80's US guitars in terms of quality control. But comparing good example to good example, I don't think it's true at all that the Japanese guitars where better made. And I've owned/own several of each
@joeydurant6267
@joeydurant6267 2 жыл бұрын
It is insane about how weird fender has been over the years... A friend had a squire super strat thing that was one of the best fender/squire guitars I've ever touched. It was a black label squire and the only reason I remember that is because it looked *so* cheap. like a a straight ink stamp... But damn... HSH set up, fr licensed trem, sparkle blue... And ballsy as all get out... Idk if it was a fluke and someone that really cared made it or what. He bought it new from GC with a blackface fender 1x10 and just plugged straight in it sounded great for the heavy stuff I played then.... The obligatory iron maiden... EDIT: this would have been maybe 99 or 2001 at the absolute latest... I'm leaning towards 99 though as best as I can remember context.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
*Indonesian years, Black Label is majority these years. Indeed, very quality at most stages.
@roncollins6259
@roncollins6259 Жыл бұрын
I have a 95 black lable fender "squire" series that is heads over my other U.S. strats. My conclusion is the body wood. It's made of less expensive popler, instead of Alder or ash. I like the popler. It's like alder in meny ways, but my ears like it more. The guitar vibrates and resonates something crazy. Everyone who touches it, loves it. Less expensive wood, doesn't mean better.
@MrInfinite43
@MrInfinite43 4 ай бұрын
MIJ (Fujigen) > CIJ (Tokai and Dyna)
@joeydurant6267
@joeydurant6267 2 жыл бұрын
Damn after watching the whole vid I have to wonder if this wasn't a fender that got shoved out the door as a squire or something.... He mentions that same era.
@VirginiaClark-v4l
@VirginiaClark-v4l 2 ай бұрын
Daphne Well
@vivafreedom4947
@vivafreedom4947 2 жыл бұрын
*M I J is from the 80's until mid 90's, most assembled in Japan with USA bodies & necks at Fujijen factory... C I J are actually not worth as much as M I J (that dude ripped you off) better than MX, but not made at Fujijen and bodies + necks not from USA*
@S0UNDC1TY
@S0UNDC1TY 8 ай бұрын
I watched all of this long winded delivery only to have the period of 2004 that I was looking for completely skipped over like it never existed lmao
@brianmackinnon5050
@brianmackinnon5050 2 ай бұрын
Me too, I have a 2004/2005 crafted in Japan 60s strat I love it but don't know much about it but I love it its heavy so I don't think its basswood I been told the pickups are Texas specials but I don't think they are they sound great but not like Texas specials they are not ceramic and they have Japanese pots it is fiesta red with a white pick gaurd not mint green it's a great guitar if you have any info on these I would appreciate it Thank you Brian
@osteenbarnes2041
@osteenbarnes2041 2 ай бұрын
4331 Carlo Bypass
@xtanwolff
@xtanwolff Жыл бұрын
Are you the Demos in the Dark guy?
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy Жыл бұрын
The very same!
@MegDarlene-i2h
@MegDarlene-i2h 2 ай бұрын
Rosalyn Groves
@AliceRosemary-h7b
@AliceRosemary-h7b Ай бұрын
521 Melisa Ford
@mr.astrophysics9115
@mr.astrophysics9115 2 жыл бұрын
The mij thing is total bs can't believe people have fallen for this ...MIM and MIA made Fenders for me
@RobNorth-k3z
@RobNorth-k3z 2 ай бұрын
Ullrich Forks
@spokanefut
@spokanefut 6 ай бұрын
In other words, neither term means diddly shit. A distinction without a difference.
@robsthedon
@robsthedon Жыл бұрын
👍
@PoundHilary-d4n
@PoundHilary-d4n Ай бұрын
Una Key
@EdisonStacey-q3z
@EdisonStacey-q3z Ай бұрын
Reinger Neck
@ronniegilmore5555
@ronniegilmore5555 Ай бұрын
8877 DuBuque Greens
@ДенисХан-х6ь
@ДенисХан-х6ь 2 жыл бұрын
Слишком много слов, разговора, нужно больше сравнения звука, нескольких гитар
@BarbaraCaufield-s8g
@BarbaraCaufield-s8g 2 ай бұрын
Feest Neck
@matthurstbridge9180
@matthurstbridge9180 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sick and tired of the Japan Vs American debate. Qu: Would you buy a Samurai sword made in America or Japan? (...ask yourself why you'll end up deciding to buy a Made In Japan Samurai sword) The ONLY reason why America keeps on pushing the Made in America is because of the MASSIVE debt America has. Japan is FAR superior Japan has a tradition of respect and shame The Japanese would rather die than produce a sub-par quality product. END.
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese manufacturing quality is indeed respected the world over. The connection of this to national debt is bizarre. When you buy a MIA Fender, I can assure you that none of that money is going to service the national debt, lol. I should also note that while Japan is known for mastering cost to value in it's products, it is not necessarily know for making the hands-down finest product in many categories. Toyota is best in class, but it's no Ferrari, and Seikos are excellent watches, but they're no Rolex.
@alejandrogalorio504
@alejandrogalorio504 2 жыл бұрын
this story might be a Crafted in Japan is a merely advertisement So that, fender made in mexico will be more attractive for the fender Patronizer's custmer to buy & consider this CIJ. why this issue is just come out too late. Japan is no longer producing this model because the market is too low & building this Quality of instrument that made in Japan are so expensive.. if i'm a japanese builder why should i produce an instrument that will make my investment went to bankruptcy.🤣😂
@ReynoldsMacaulay
@ReynoldsMacaulay Ай бұрын
5527 Ernesto Mountains
@markwood3389
@markwood3389 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a guitar, then I sold it. ...blah blah ...In 1980, Ronald Reagan was elected... blah blah... Nikolai Tesla invented electricity in 1873.. blah blah... I bought another guitar, I have many guitars... blah blah... [Skip to 9:12]
@donatusandy7605
@donatusandy7605 2 жыл бұрын
Talk to much…
@pdcband22
@pdcband22 Жыл бұрын
Don’t need this long ass video. It was one of the stipulations in the Fujigen contract at the time when they first started. Nobody else could legally use the “made in Japan” branding… People always gotta make videos on things they don’t really know about..kind of disappointed at stringjoy on this one we all know early 80’s Fujigen MIJ is where it’s at ..ain’t nobody care about a 90’s CIJ guitar i shure is hell don’t
@Stringjoy
@Stringjoy Жыл бұрын
...We address most of this in the video boss
@richardhansen5760
@richardhansen5760 Жыл бұрын
Bla bla ..blabla
@jonbootralphs7553
@jonbootralphs7553 Ай бұрын
14484 Bernier Flat
@jhkuno88
@jhkuno88 Жыл бұрын
The big brand guitar used market today is pathetic, its full of people fighting over pennies and worthless minutiae, i really question the mental capacity of most people involved in it, they act like silly children trading baseball cards, and this kind of crap proves it.
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