Fender TUBE AMP vs DIGITAL modelers!

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Paul Davids

Paul Davids

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@PaulDavids
@PaulDavids 6 жыл бұрын
Hats off to Silvan for the awesome chops! Kemper Profiles we made are available on my Patreon page. Take care, and thank you for watching :)
@federicolopezmusic
@federicolopezmusic 5 жыл бұрын
The Kemper is close but lacks the "air" of the real speaker - it feels quite stiff. The OX takes it to a different direction but has some life to it.
@rossvanuatu2666
@rossvanuatu2666 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to know what Silvan is playing at around 4:07
@stevethebeeline44
@stevethebeeline44 2 жыл бұрын
@@federicolopezmusic yeah I guess this makes sense as with the OX the real amp is still being used and only the speaker and mics are digital. Kemper is 100% digital. With Kemper you can switch between whole rigs and recording chains instantly, OX is just like recording an amp but only cab and mics are digital.
@eds6889
@eds6889 4 жыл бұрын
I once played with a guy who used a Princeton into a 412 with two drivers on top and two holes on the bottom. No pedals, from clean to a nice heavy crunch just with dynamics. One of the best tones I’ve ever heard. A small tube amp working hard will always sound sweeter than a large amp hardly working. My “opinion” of course.
@PaulHartnett21
@PaulHartnett21 5 жыл бұрын
I truly believe its all to do with volume. Everything sounds better louder. So a cranked amp will always offer that "something special" due to its relative loudness. The Kemper is fantastic tool for a recording artist as it really does limit the variables in getting a good tone in to your DAW. That's why i enjoy it.
@franciscomenezes1117
@franciscomenezes1117 2 жыл бұрын
A ss amp cranked produces different harmonics then the tubes, to human hearing is ugly as hell.
@wavywav7556
@wavywav7556 6 жыл бұрын
This video is WILD- possibly your best ever, Paul (nice to see the collaboration with and contributions from Sylvan). The analysis and breakdown of the Kemper versus mic was the best I’ve seen in terms of explaining what *that thing* is about the real thing. But that Kemper came *damn* close. Makes me wonder if any slight little tweak somewhere in the signal chain of either option- say, one click back on the upper frequency of the Kemper or, really, *any* change to the mic placement or position- could overlap the difference seamlessly. With greatest respect to your efforts, of course- five hours is a long time tweaking! Ultimately, why bother? Both options are great. The rest is up to the user. Great video!
@roccorodriguez6653
@roccorodriguez6653 5 жыл бұрын
I still believe a good player can make anything sound good. At the same time, money can’t make you a pro..
@bassfishingwiththeantichri2921
@bassfishingwiththeantichri2921 4 жыл бұрын
Rocco Rodriguez - A bad player can make anything bad and I can prove it.
@linaivanuta5943
@linaivanuta5943 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Vai would still sound like Steve Vai on a Ibanez Gio
@jahmosaxe3818
@jahmosaxe3818 3 жыл бұрын
@@linaivanuta5943 Steve vai has become a total sellout and has never had better tone than back in the day on flexible leftovers fuck yourself song
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 2 жыл бұрын
Sound vs feel is the real argument. Sound is not feel. I’m kind of irritated with people focusing all on sound.
@markbyrd7710
@markbyrd7710 6 жыл бұрын
Man when you hit that "Slow Dancing in a Burning Room" lick... I felt it. Haha
@kesis2203
@kesis2203 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for this!
@nicholasvillalobos-best4730
@nicholasvillalobos-best4730 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my word. I can't get over that compressed Princeton crunch tone... nice hands make it sound even better. Nice
@417altavista
@417altavista 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this beautiful legit video. The final sound profile with the pedal was mind blowing. I literally belted WOW out loud.
@jakehall9300
@jakehall9300 6 жыл бұрын
I just want you to know how much I truly enjoy your content. You bring a real passion to the art of playing guitar, and I have been able to draw much inspiration from you and your playing. Thank you for doing what you do.
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a Kemper and an OxBox. For my Kemper I mainly use profiles I've made and when I've recorded both my amp with mic's and pre's vs. my Kemper in the same recording, I can't tell which is which. Does it sound exactly the same, not exactly but neither does my amp when I record it one day from the next or when it's been on for an hour vs. 4 hours of if I have the mic a half inch different form the other spot. The OxBox with my main amp feels the most real when I'm listening through monitors and I love the quick speaker switching. For my main amps I use EV's and UAD doesn't have EV's on the Ox yet so I don't get to use analogous speakers but it sounds about as real as mic'ing a cab and the tweaking of the room sound really brings it to life.
@RabidTales
@RabidTales 6 жыл бұрын
First time I seen a video of Paul Davids communicating with a human. Weird. I didn't know Paul converses with the human species.
@417altavista
@417altavista 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO!!!! I also found myself analyzing his human interaction. He’s too cool for humans
@Toni_560
@Toni_560 6 жыл бұрын
I say it again and again: If you are able to record the processed audio signal from any hardware properly, you can reproduce it digitally. The human ear is incapable of differentiating between an analog signal and its digital counterpart. The difference comes from either not analysing the signal processing properly (or messing up the preset) or people changing their play style, the way they pluck and stroke etc. If a machine can't tell the difference in blinded studies, you cannot either.
@jeremy7818
@jeremy7818 6 жыл бұрын
To Ni - I disagree. You are confusing what people can properly articulate about what they are hearing and how they feel about what they are hearing. Tube amps aren’t going anywhere in my lifetime. With the ongoing innovations in attenuators tube amps are as popular as ever. For a reason. One you can disagree with but exists none the less.
@Toni_560
@Toni_560 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Hamilton As an engineer: you can feel however you like, but this is the same thing as so-called wine-experts, it's rose-colored glasses to rely on tube amps because they sound different. You can digitally copy any effect in the signal transformation processing chain and combine them properly (with too many effects you need appropriate processing power). Analysing an amp (pre amp, cabinet etc) in all aspects in a lot of settings with different input signals (volume, frequency) is a matter or time and effort, but if done properly you CANNOT differentiate between an original amp and an emulated signal. It's not a thing to debate whether you can do it (because you can), it's a matter of how well it is done and whether you like what you see (again the feeling and nostalgia or whatever you connect emotionally).
@jeremy7818
@jeremy7818 6 жыл бұрын
To Ni - as en engineer also - I still disagree. The irony is the comparator to “accuracy” is the original tube sound and dynamic compression/sag/etc of an actual tube amp... And secondly - as volume increases the differences become even more apparent. This is why Kemper has excelled in the HiFi studio / home amp area but less so when you can enjoy the dynamics of a cooking tube at some volume. You are de-linking the sound of the classic amp tube circuit with reality by calling it nostalgia when the fact is they actually do sound different when you step back from the theory and just listen. I’m not knocking digital. I’m just not calling it something it’s not either. Don’t be one of those Tesla snobs whom tell everyone gas engines are dead then can’t wipe the smile of his face when you drive a Porsche turbo... or tell everyone they didn’t actually like it then explain why electric cars are WAY more fun... 😂
@KeithMilner
@KeithMilner 6 жыл бұрын
I have to largely agree with To Ni. As an Electronics Engineer, I know that if you can measure something and build an accurate mathematical model of it, then you can model it. If you have enough processing power, then you can do it in real time. That includes all of the dynamic characteristics of tubes, and sag and compression. I fail to see the irony in doing this: if you are modelling a system then the most accurate test of that model is against the thing you are modelling. An question that is often unanswered is "why bother, when you can have the real thing". Often there is no go answer to this (at least from an individual, practical point of view). Other times there are good answers. Modelling amps have characteristics that tube amps don't such as potability, durability, flexibility, and cost. If you can afford a good tube amp, and don't need the portability and flexibility of a modeller, then why not use a tube amp? Well, potentially there are other reasons, such as potential long term supply issues. Guitar amps are one of the few modern users of these tubes, and they are expensive and labour-intensive to make. Just like you may find that petrol supplies become scarce or excessively expensive in the future, you may find tubes hard to get hold of or stupidly expensive. There are two areas where I don't think tube amps work as well: 1. Driving a speaker - the way that tube amps drive speakers hasn't really been emulated by solid state amplifiers. This is an area where digital modelling has limited value because it's about power transfer to the speakers more than tone. Of course, this only makes a difference if you are in the room or on the stage listening to the amp directly. If you are in the audience listening through the PA, or listening to a recording on your home hifi, or even on stage listening through monitors/IEMs with the amp in an iso-box backstage somewhere, then you are listening to a recording of that driven amp/speaker, which absolutely can be modelled. 2. Latency - any digital modeller has to run an algorithm on a microprocessor to model the analogue components. This will always have some latency. This can and does have an impact on the way the amp reacts. As we increase processing power, we can reduce this latency and maybe make it so negligible that it's no longer noticeable. I'm not sure we are there yet (we may be with things like the Kemper). But any latency will be subtly noticeable to a great player (although not most players, and certainly not an average player like me). Of course, there is an argument that this only has an real impact if you are sitting right next to the amp. If you are standing 10 metres away on a large stage, then the latency of sound through air is probably a bigger issue.
@jeremy7818
@jeremy7818 6 жыл бұрын
Keith Milner - as a mechanical engineer I still disagree. And to restate my original position. Tube amps are not dead, still sound better (circa Sept 2018 - not hypothetically tomorrow or 2025), and that both musicians in this video preferred the tube and picked out the digital amp in 2 seconds. This is only probably the 5000th video comparing the best digital against a “good” tube amp... this wasn’t a dumble overdrive special vs the Kemper... so keep in mind that exceptional tube amps are still an even higher gold standard in tube amp tone out there in studios recording the highest level recording artists with Grammy winning credentials. if the irony is lost on you that is fine. It was tongue in cheek. It wasn’t intended to suggest modelling doesn’t improve or other... its quite the opposite. It is the digital crowd saying tube amps are the dying or dead art.... then only suggest to achieve parity... not better than. The irony is calling the thing no longer relevant while only seeking to copy exactly all its precise characteristics. Anyway... I’m out. This is opinion and always will be. But it seems people tie their identity in their products yet again and can’t accept that they haven’t solved “the problem” for everyone in existence.
@pAtTs024
@pAtTs024 6 жыл бұрын
nothing can replicate a old fine tube amp. 👌
@UrsaMusic
@UrsaMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very cool you guys could hear the difference right away with the blind tests. Hey Paul I couldn't notice that you had the "warp" button on in your clips and ableton. If you are working with raw audio and doing a sound test, might want to disable that or use another DAW like protools because even when the tempo does not change in ableton there will be a slight difference in the sound from what was actually recorded. I'm sure people will come at me for this but i've listened a lot to both programs and i can hear that ableton does something to the audio, especially when warp is on.
@ronraducanu9633
@ronraducanu9633 6 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting vid. Mostly because as "blind" as the test is in the later aspect of the vid, it needs to be repeated when the sounds aren't so fresh to them. There are a tremendous amount of recordings that are done 100% digitally that unless you A/B them in the studio and go back and forth to try to find the difference in sound, or actually look for a difference, you'd never know. There is also that whole "amp in the room" and "pushing air" argument when discussing actual amps and their digital counterparts. Again, there are many vids on KZbin that compare digital vs. analog to view with this, but ultimately if you listen to a well produced record, you'd never be able to tell the difference. The other issue is post production. When recording, once the track is laid done, there is a ton of post production done, that can completely eliminate the argument that something sounds different. You can change the cab you use in the digital realm after the fact if you aren't completely happy with the sound. Something you can't do with an analog signal.
@Grantborland
@Grantborland 4 жыл бұрын
They all sound so good to me! It's so fun listening and comparing the differences, but I truly don't have a preference between any of these! I think it all depends on the application, and I think they all provide solid and useable tones that would sound incredible in any track! :) Thanks for taking the time to make these comparison videos guys!
@TheSterlingSound
@TheSterlingSound 6 жыл бұрын
This was the exact reason why I didn’t go for the Ox. Trust me I really wanted to like it, both the premise and the design are great. But to me it sounded very dead and compressed, even with the room mixed in. That ‘meh’ reaction of you both is exactly what I had.
@Andy86L
@Andy86L 6 жыл бұрын
Everything you play on that Strat sounds absolutely gorgeous. Not normally a fan of overly clean tones but you are the exception!
@paulvinova
@paulvinova 6 жыл бұрын
I used Bias FX Pro, and I love some of the tones on their cloud.
@alexisschrodinger75
@alexisschrodinger75 6 жыл бұрын
I use Bias FX too and I'm very impressed by its sound on a FRFR cab, yesterday I played one by one Bias FX and VOX AC15 C1 and was very amazing.
@paulvinova
@paulvinova 6 жыл бұрын
@@tristan3665 sure. I use an external sound card to help with latency. It's called a *Scarlet 2i2* (there's a newer version called 2i4). That is USB powered into my PC with it's low latency drivers. I put my guitar lead into the front of 2i2. And as for output, I can use a guitar lead to my amps *output* (you can use the amp input aswell)or I usually just plug in my headpohones instead. It's a 1/4" (same as guitar lead) output, but you can use a 3.5mm adapter for headphones. Just make sure your sort out the audio settings in Bias FX to match your pc frequencies and outputs etc. You can d/l Bias FX and try it out for free. It does cut out every often though. It takes some tweaking, but I personally love it. It saves so much hassle with having many pedals and leads. And it's just a click away to a new effect. I just need to get a midi control pedal, so I can control wah and volume with my foot. Let me know how you get on :)
@paulvinova
@paulvinova 6 жыл бұрын
@@tristan3665 Strange. I have no experience with that. Does it come through as a clean signal? Is it any different if you have headphones on instead? Is there enough power in the AC adapter and does the gain signal clip, is it high enough?
@Don_of_the_Dad
@Don_of_the_Dad 6 жыл бұрын
Bias on iPad is my rig
@willem9688
@willem9688 6 жыл бұрын
that sound the Kemper makes when profiling an amp sounds like me, everytime i'm finishing noodling with my delay pedal :-)
@robmulhern3799
@robmulhern3799 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the wee homage to Varg there with the "Lets find out"
@dickjonesify
@dickjonesify 6 жыл бұрын
That Kemper profile sounds fantastic. Well done! I like the Ox but it didn’t get as close in this case, which is hilarious because it’s still using the real amp 😂
@dickjonesify
@dickjonesify 6 жыл бұрын
Kemper definitely compresses more but there are adjustments to get less of that.
@brandbird
@brandbird 6 жыл бұрын
Each real amp has it's own personality, but emulators etc only manage to get the average sound of the amplifier that they are simulating, if that. I'm not saying digi amps are bad, but the real ones will always be more unique. Physics over digital simulation of physics. Thanks for the video! :)
@ty.process
@ty.process 6 жыл бұрын
I have no dog in this fight, but TO ME, the Princeton was hands down the best sounding, most responsive and most dynamic.
@rodneythekingcobra
@rodneythekingcobra 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but u need to mic the other two results with the same microphone before you compare. Otherwise you comparing a microphone room sound to no room sound , to me this seems a waste of time otherwise.
@DrewEdwardBacklas
@DrewEdwardBacklas 6 жыл бұрын
I've been out of the game for a while and I'm sure digital effects and modeling have come a long way in recent years. But for me personally I always preferred analog effects pedals in front of my 68 fender bassman head and a homemade solid pine cabinet with 2 12" Celestions to any digital effects or modeling amp. Not an electrical engineer and can't explain why but the old stuff just sounds better to me.
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 5 жыл бұрын
$4000 for the Kemper and Ox and 4 hours programming to get one great amp emulation. I have a 1966 Princeton Amp, 65 Airline 5 watt (Champ circuit), mid 60s Danelectro Cadet, mid 60s Lindell Tremolo Deluxe, and an 80s solid state Fender Sidekick 25, all of which cost me less than $1800 in total. Maybe I can't get the thousands of amp sounds that a Kemper can do, but with the variety I have, I get all the types of amp sounds I want and need, and I have them as immediately as it takes to plug in. Maybe someone like Steve Howe could benefit from one of these setups to streamline a live rig, but for those prices I think it is not worth it for the average guitarist.
@MaestroJericho
@MaestroJericho 4 жыл бұрын
I got my EVH 5150 used for $800 and could sell it for that much. I got my Kemper for $1500 used and sold it shortly after the Neural DSP Quad Cortex got pre-orders on Sweetwater and the average price used went from $1500 to $1400, and it's only going down then.
@dickbetty3630
@dickbetty3630 4 жыл бұрын
9:17 mic 10:17 ox 11:08 kemper
@szymonmazur
@szymonmazur 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Paul, as usual I should say ;) You quickly became my favourite guitar teacher/inspiration on YT, great commitment and super-high quality production. Thanks, man!
@tysiudamasceno
@tysiudamasceno Жыл бұрын
In the intro, the sound of Kemper, to my ears, sounded way better then both other options.
@reijmerswael
@reijmerswael 6 жыл бұрын
I have bought exactly the same Princeton 41 years ago (from Herman “Pappie loop toch niet snel” van Keeken) and I’m still very happy with it. Sadly I can’t play it on level 10 - way to loud - but on 3 it sounds o.k. I’m going to build an attenuator, may be that will give me the opportunity to enjoy the ultimate sound at acceptable volume.
@BeefNEggs057
@BeefNEggs057 6 жыл бұрын
reijmerswael Yeah 4 sounds really good with a Tumnus (KLON-ish) or Ep booster giving it a little push. Yeah 10 would instantly deafen me but I like 3-5 (breaking up a little when digging in). Don’t love amp breakup honestly. Sounds like dooky. The Princeton special edition with the 12” speaker is the best of both worlds.
@Sakiesetakuntie
@Sakiesetakuntie 3 жыл бұрын
For what fits the bill...lots of them... for myself a good quality modeling amp is badass. I don't have to purchase any pedals and my internet connection gets anyone's ideas and brilliance installed if it's doable and worthy. My creative limiters are my passion. The sounds that can be made are way off into the zen as quantum as one wishes. My hands are the single biggest note shapers. It is very visceral, alive and great fun. I can record in the moment. I can play backing tracks through bluetooth opening an unlimited creative medium. I also don't worry about finding a tube if I have a failure and where I live it's a reality that I plan for with many tangible things. I crunched some quick numbers and have easily factored a million different possibilities for sound. In all truth if one was to complete the math it would become apparent there is no absolute provable quantifiable count which is ok with me. I'll be happy with making a few awesome riffs in the moment of that bit of flow. I'll also be thankful my music is of an analog l.p. groove era. From billy squire to billy Thorpe children of the sun and the other wadzillion great electron rich material tube amp songs. By a heated analog wave expressing emotional tube passion that manifests being spoken in languages called music. A big what it is to be human...I'm very thankful.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being one of few people at the top that are willing to say that a real valve amp has an x-factor to it-while you play it-at least. Modelers and stuff sound great, but there’s some like, 5% feeling that’s off.
@jackoo666
@jackoo666 Жыл бұрын
you can definitely hear a difference. technology is getting closer but its not quite there. I feel like theyd have to use some kind of reality simulating software to really replicate the sound of a tube amp. I will say its getting to the point where convenience might start to outway doing it the old school way
@localcrew
@localcrew 6 жыл бұрын
I was jamming once and I had my boat anchor Ampeg all-tube combo amp. Other guy had a pair of Line-6 amps. We were literally doing a side-by-side all night. Everyone was staring at the Ampeg all night like it was the voice of Jaweh or something. It sounded great. Still does. Heh -- He said "Warm bottom".
@Roikat
@Roikat 6 жыл бұрын
Burning bush vs Ampeg all-tube combo would be an awesome blindfold listening test video.
@hukl3945
@hukl3945 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm I have to say the Fender recording sounds much better than the Kemper here on youtube. I'm listening through Neumann KH 120. Maybe different when you sit in the room.
@claytontra
@claytontra 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul love this type of comparison video to get a feel of the differences and capabilities.
@Lobberzillo
@Lobberzillo 5 жыл бұрын
After this, I'm keeping all my real stuff for good :)
@shredgd5
@shredgd5 6 жыл бұрын
At 11:15 the epitome of the "I can't really hear a difference vs. I *feel* a clear difference but I can't quite explain it" debate: explained, translated into facts, verified. Thank a lot! This works for a lot of aspects of electric guitar (pickups, woods, etc). Very tiny and complex things which can be flattened by a "flat playing": some people do comparison video by playing one open E chord and claim both products sound exactly the same, ignoring and hiding those tiny but very important differences, which will clearly become apparent to the experienced and good player when actually playing.
@HiredGoonage
@HiredGoonage 4 жыл бұрын
the audience doesn't care
@shredgd5
@shredgd5 4 жыл бұрын
Hired Goonage, if you are unsatisfied with the feel your tone gives you back while playing and you are therefore uninspired by it, you won't play as good so the audience might ultimately care 😉
@sinfirma23
@sinfirma23 5 жыл бұрын
Kemper sounds great...until...you play a real amp and you say....ahhhh, that was the sound!!!
@rgbplumbinghilton
@rgbplumbinghilton 3 жыл бұрын
Same with all modellers, on their own they sound good, next to an amp they are modelling they sound one dimensional and really very different
@BigTrouble324
@BigTrouble324 2 жыл бұрын
Child's toys! I have a Fender Quad Reverb. It's fucking LOUD, and I love it!
@linushakansson8714
@linushakansson8714 6 жыл бұрын
I think for me personally, the issue with the Kemper and similar profilers, has never been the isolated sound, but rather how it feels to play it. To me it feels like there's a slight difference in how the guitar responds to my playing between the profiler vs a tube amp, which I find really distracting from my overall enjoyment of it. Having said that it definitely sounds great!
@sascha4561
@sascha4561 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right. At the Moment i play my Helix Rack via my Fender Delux 85 clean channel. Sound (moddels) and AMP Box has now feeling and realy great Rock/Metall sounds
@ChorltonM21
@ChorltonM21 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Reviewers obsess about the sound differences but hardly ever address how amplification feels under your fingers. Modellers also feedback differently. These variations will affect your note choices and playing style.
@MatteoSacilotto
@MatteoSacilotto 6 жыл бұрын
I solved the problem buying a great cab, a guitar cab that has been adapted to hos a full range speaker. Now also the feeling is great.
@thomasniehof6333
@thomasniehof6333 6 жыл бұрын
I hit 'Thumbs Up' after seeing the cat in the intro. At this point I don't even care if you nailed the tone or not, you deserve the positive rating ;-)
@iancox7874
@iancox7874 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that OX out is amazing! Unfortunately the tone stack in a Kemper doesn’t emulate the tone stack of the Amplifier.. your pre-set is only a snapshot of the amp.. and not of the amps dynamic ranges.. thoughts on this Paul?
@KurtLeBlanc
@KurtLeBlanc 6 жыл бұрын
Paul sells the OX a little short on this video, IMO. I am an OX user and am sold on it. I've never heard the full potential of my Fender Twin tube amp - it's Amazing!!
@sergescardigno
@sergescardigno 6 жыл бұрын
The audio of you guys talking in this one is phenomenal! What mic?
@HapticNoise
@HapticNoise 6 жыл бұрын
That B-roll footage at the beginning, wow
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Can you share what mic/position you used for the amp clip? Also info on the console preamp etc.
@eleanmendoza
@eleanmendoza 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a comparison of the Kember vs the new Mooer $400 modeler/profiler that recently came out.
@LucasAlvesMusic
@LucasAlvesMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely edited audio in the parts where you two talk. Did you use more than one mic for that? Kinda sounds like you also used a room mic or something. really cool
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 6 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this knowing that what I hear here has nothing to do with how everything sounds in person.. Basically, there's no point in watching this, but you still make the video enjoyable..
@freddyschulp3766
@freddyschulp3766 5 жыл бұрын
They all sound great! But I love this video how we can still pick out the tube amp
@PackPractical
@PackPractical 6 жыл бұрын
Sounding great sir. Just proves if you know what you are doing you can get some amazing sounds out of a Kemper.
@Iuglus
@Iuglus 6 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of us would love to see a comparison between a real tube amp and his counter part on a helix (just because of its affordable price). Great video anyway!!
@Chris_Porro_Land_o_Naps
@Chris_Porro_Land_o_Naps 4 жыл бұрын
i suspect there is more low end content on the mic version (room modes?). sometimes that really low stuff makes an amp sound bigger/more live. another great comparison. thx
@andersvesterholt2170
@andersvesterholt2170 6 жыл бұрын
Another video driving me towards the Kemper. Is it 100% like the real amp? No. It's not. But it's so close. And you have sooooo many options with it.
@AlanGeer
@AlanGeer 6 жыл бұрын
I agree - I bought a kemper about 6 months ago and while it *may be* 5% less in actual tone than an authentic tube amp - the value that it brings in so many amp variations, effects, diversity, weight, volume, etc is well worth the [very] small sacrifice IMHO....
@andersvesterholt2170
@andersvesterholt2170 6 жыл бұрын
And in a lot of tests they say "yeah, I can hear A is the real amp, but I like B (the kemper) better". I'm getting one in December I think. Question is whether it should be with or without power amp.
@carter3925
@carter3925 6 жыл бұрын
Alan Geer the thing for me is having an actual amp in the room, something about it that I wouldn't give up even though the kemper is obviously a good investment
@AlanGeer
@AlanGeer 6 жыл бұрын
@@carter3925 I get it, nothing replaces that experience.... but I'm getting old and lazy so small sacrifices abound!
@carter3925
@carter3925 6 жыл бұрын
Alan Geer yeah it makes sense for a lot of people and it is a great product
@basaudible
@basaudible 6 жыл бұрын
Is it ont possible to compensate in the profiel for the amount of compression you mentioned when comparing micro and kemper on the second note? Great video as usual😀🤘🏻
@janebond4175
@janebond4175 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul. You said the Princeton profile was on Patreon but I'm having trouble finding it on your page there.
@sinfirma23
@sinfirma23 5 жыл бұрын
After this...I still prefer my real amp + mooer radar viar preamp out. It sounds, like the 1600 € kemper
@chrisjeaaalbertos3802
@chrisjeaaalbertos3802 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried putting pedals between the kemper, ox and silverface? I am really curious how the compare if you are still going to use pedals. EDIT: oh and I am assuming you didnt use the cab with the kemper right? Just straight out of the kemper itself?
@artholding7735
@artholding7735 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for amazing comparison !!
@lockerflocki
@lockerflocki 6 жыл бұрын
What you think about the 5 Watt full Tube Mooer little Monster AC?
@brighton09100
@brighton09100 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure it’s a lot harder to tell from a recording than standing in a room hearing them both live.
@xpopiano
@xpopiano 6 жыл бұрын
Gr8 video Paul, interesting and great quality video like always
@bbence123
@bbence123 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul I was just wondering if you could provide us with some information about the guitar course that you working on. Anyway I love your work and you inspire me everyday!
@davidharrismusician
@davidharrismusician 6 жыл бұрын
Dude can you release this profile? I would love to have it for my Kemper!
@sdmatso
@sdmatso 5 жыл бұрын
Paul, thank you for the video. As a new guitar player I find the equipment the hardest to figure out. What would you say is the a smart and flexible start for a amp/cabinet/box for pop/rock guitar? I have a PRS guitar and combo amp but the amp is just wayyy too loud to get good sounds out of it inside the house.
@MrDonovant
@MrDonovant 4 жыл бұрын
My unsolicited advice is... Figure out what kind of amp sound you want for Rock. Is it you want to fender type sound? Vox? Marshall? Those are the three main types of amp sound you hear in classic rock. You're not going to find an app that does all free Imo. Do you want an amp that has good clean Channel and also a good drive Channel or do you want an atom that has a good single channel that can be set to a more clean sound or more overdrive sound? Also you need to think about wattage. Are you playing other musicians that have very big ants that they turn up super loud? Are you playing in front of an audience? What kind of venue then? Imo most people don't need an amp with more than 15 or 20 watts, that is unless you need a lot of clean Headroom at high volume or you're playing in a very loud environment with other musicians that have very loud amps and they're cranked
@AnomieTrain
@AnomieTrain 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite amp sim (for Fender amps at least) is the bx_bassdude by Brainworx.
@emreguney1644
@emreguney1644 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, I'm kind of a newbie on the subject but it brought my attention that you use a loadbox there. Do you use it with all kinds of amps or can it be used with solid state or Marshall AVT style lovechild of tube&solid state amps. Thanks
@brndgtl
@brndgtl 6 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see you try a Helix and put some of those presets up too
@DeckardRJ
@DeckardRJ 4 жыл бұрын
Very good experiment!!! Thank you so much for the info/experience!
@joescarpadventures
@joescarpadventures 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet tones; sweet playing. Nice comparison!
@patrickcarroll1754
@patrickcarroll1754 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, Paul! Love the those arrows. I think you’re showcasing the Ox beautiful. I’m saving up $1200 now. If you read this, what kind of polo collared shirts and shoes do you wear? Thanks!
@benrosenbaum1899
@benrosenbaum1899 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, could you please do a video on the Ableton Push 2 with all its features(looper?,drums etc)and show how to use it (I mean creating the sounds like in the loops,maybe a tutuorial?)with the software and so on? And do a demo? Thanks
@thebreakfastmenu
@thebreakfastmenu 6 жыл бұрын
The Kemper would definitely be a great studio tool.
@sakisrorras
@sakisrorras 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a good tube amp! Analog sound is always better!
@Iron-and-strings
@Iron-and-strings 9 ай бұрын
i actually like the kemper sound the best... hmmmmm never thought that would be my answer.
@telesandstrats3297
@telesandstrats3297 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I like hearing you play John Mayer!
@tobias-6696
@tobias-6696 2 жыл бұрын
For recording, maybe. But in real life and in a room with resonance tubes will always sound a little better.
@jasong546
@jasong546 6 жыл бұрын
Pool sticks. Chairs sliding, talking, singing, clapping, glasses tinkling, bathroom doors...no one in a small club would know as they sound so close. Once you sound that nice an audience just wont care. That’s not profound I just think you would make them happy with any of the 3. Cheers Paul, nice video.
@MarcCoteMusic
@MarcCoteMusic 6 жыл бұрын
You don't even have to sound anywhere near that nice... as long as your sound isn't terrible you'll be fine for playing a bar gig.
@jasong546
@jasong546 6 жыл бұрын
I guess I was thinking of the folks who would insist that one sounds bad, and that they would say the ox or kemper would be that one. Because these guys showed which is which. It always seems to happen, and that’s ok. Guys get so wrapped in stuff their audience never hears. The way it is I guess.
@chilldude30
@chilldude30 5 жыл бұрын
Paul is always dressed so well
@luckyloop5839
@luckyloop5839 3 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see a kemper+cabinet VS real amp comparison :)
@guitartoneSA
@guitartoneSA 2 жыл бұрын
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@tsaarfubar
@tsaarfubar 3 жыл бұрын
I took five hours to get a good profile out of the Kemper. It costs three times as much as a Prince which has the sound everyone wants. Ehm why bother?
@jahmosaxe3818
@jahmosaxe3818 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo! You wanna jam ?
@Pedritoorisqwertyuiop
@Pedritoorisqwertyuiop Жыл бұрын
it takes five hours if you are still learning, and it can nail many other tones and effects that you would need to buy another amp otherwise
@mougabo
@mougabo 3 жыл бұрын
1) so, if i understand correctly each profile in the kemper is a representation of a real amp at a specific pre amp setting, right? so if i would want to change those setings then i would need to have with me on my pedal board a kemper REMOTE and from there I could change to other pre.amp settings from another profile of the same amp, right? 2) on the second part of the video you created a different profile with a specific pedal.......... why did you do that? is it because the kemper power head doesnt take pedals as good as a real amp? IF ANYONE WITH KEMPER EXPERIENCE MAY ANSWER (OR PAUL HIM SELF!) I WOULD BE SUPER GRATEFUL!
@piquesegue
@piquesegue 6 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. Patreon or Kemper won't get or change it. Back on earth, true sound, gravity. Sold my Helix and don't miss a thing. Back to Fender Champ. And That Pedal Show. Yeah 😊
@jessikapfer
@jessikapfer 6 жыл бұрын
Paul, what's the name of that closing song after you guys say goodbye in the video?
@maxein4890
@maxein4890 6 жыл бұрын
you could tell paul really wanted to play
@mrAbelaAbela
@mrAbelaAbela 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! So useful
@heshumi
@heshumi 2 жыл бұрын
this cat made me smile
@spatnaspolecnost
@spatnaspolecnost 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvans, called willowers or pucks, and labeled superstitiously as devils, are an exceptionally rare, intelligent race native to the woodlands of the Northern Kingdoms. They are distinguished by prominent goat-like visage and delight in pranks, feasting, and music.
@luizalbertokoehler4904
@luizalbertokoehler4904 8 ай бұрын
the best sound comes from the best adjusted equipment
@vanhalen1776
@vanhalen1776 6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what chords he's playing at 4:09? - sounds really good Awesome vid Paul!
@peanutbutteronmyguitar7005
@peanutbutteronmyguitar7005 6 жыл бұрын
hi paul. lovely video. are you planning on sharing these profiles?
@medisaeedi9044
@medisaeedi9044 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison.Bravoooooooooooo
@alexanderf2121
@alexanderf2121 6 жыл бұрын
amazing video filming!
@benallmark9671
@benallmark9671 2 жыл бұрын
Folks , a newbie guitar player here asking for advice. In the long run what will I better off going with , tube amplifiers with an attenuator or modules like the ToneMasters ? Keep in mind that I live in as apartment.
@bassax7045
@bassax7045 6 жыл бұрын
Limitation of the Kemper , you dont clone the amp but a fragment in time of that amp with only that setting . so once its a patch you dont have a versatile amp but just the clean or dirty sound you patched . lucky for the Amp manufacturers you still better buy the real amp if you like it .
@easye9-21
@easye9-21 6 жыл бұрын
That's true, but with most good commercial profiles they will you give you multiple patches covering the whole range of the amp, from clean to overdrive and with pedals as well.
@samuelguymer4358
@samuelguymer4358 6 жыл бұрын
Kemper is marketed as a money saver...how when you have to buy expensive profiles or buy the real amp to profile in the first place...
@MatteoSacilotto
@MatteoSacilotto 6 жыл бұрын
I owned a few boutique and vintage tube amps in the past. Now I have the Kemper and I have sold them. Do the Kemper sound as good as they do? No. Some of the nuances that good tube amps produce under ideal conditions are impossible to replicate. The problem with these tube amps however is that you almost never play them under ideal conditions: when you are asked to turn down the volume you loose the sweet spot, when ou play outside you may lose bass frequencies, etc. So I think that the Kemper may even sound better than real tube amps in real world applications. Plus, with the Kemper bad sound engineers have a hard time spoiling your sound.
@wolfnstrings
@wolfnstrings 6 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend a Kemper as a close enough alternative to a tube amp? I am looking at it as a possible solution to needing tubes and maintenance.
@mihaitrusca2320
@mihaitrusca2320 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of pro bands are using digital on stage or in the studio these days. Metallica are using Axe-Fx on stage, Gary Holt (Slayer) recorded his parts for Repentless album (2015) using Kemper, Def Leppard recorded guitars for the last 2 albums using Guitar Rig 5. The list is bigger (and is growing bigger every year) but it's no point filling up the comments with this. Digital will take over valve amps the same way it took over recording on tape in the early 2000.
@Don_of_the_Dad
@Don_of_the_Dad 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is paid for my Kemper. The princeton sounded nothing like the other two, and the modelers sound like a cheap solid state
@samuelguymer4358
@samuelguymer4358 5 жыл бұрын
Kemper are strong marketers and sell loads based on hype. It's cheap and basic and sounds nothing like a real amp.
@kulagun
@kulagun 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuelguymer4358 Keep telling yourself that. I sold my Tone King and FDDR because I purchased profiles that sounded better.
@Raydoesitintime
@Raydoesitintime 3 жыл бұрын
@@kulagun you probably play in your bed room. These modeling amps never cut it in a live scenario
@Lobberzillo
@Lobberzillo 5 жыл бұрын
Amplitube feels and sounds close using the right speakers
@stupid28273
@stupid28273 6 жыл бұрын
Who farted when you switched seats?! That should be recorded on two tracks and y'all listen back to guess.😃
@ande047
@ande047 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it so damn hard to find a kemper profile of a CLEAN, non edge of break up prince/dlx/twn profile!? This profile literally sounds like a tweed blues Junior. Nothing wrong with that -I actually own one of these real amps-, I just want a damn clean, lots of headroom, no twang, profile
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