FERRY FIASCO: 'It's uncomfortable watching snp members trying to defend the indefensible'

[@davidrendall5112]

It’s truly staggering how bad these SNP clowns have been 🤦‍♂️

[@cdrone4066]

It’s not uncomfortable, it’s infuriating

[@markhorton8578]

The SNP don't understand money and don't care about it, only thier ideology matters.

[@margaretblack8303]

Care about money in their pockets

[@blackislepeastoo]

@@margaretblack8303 and £ 14,000,000 on Scot Gov Credit Cards in ONE year.

[@jamesmcfarlane2382]

Got to get rid of this shower

[@Wilkins-Micawber]

More people in visitors gallery than there are MSPs in the chamber. Absolute scandal and they don’t give a F**k.

[@RedToriesBlueTories]

Same in your beloved Westminster. Never more than 20 in at any one time.

[@martyjago8636]

​@@RedToriesBlueTories you do know that there's no actual Westminster meetings or debates on a Friday 😂

[@RedToriesBlueTories]

​@@martyjago8636 Another of your corrupt tories resigned today Mad Nad Dorries. Won't be enough in Westminster to fill a mini bus must be great kneeling before a party that nobody votes for.

[@zoon1543]

​@@martyjago8636 I doubt it 🤣🤣

[@neils4886]

@@RedToriesBlueToriesWhataboot whataboot diversion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@freeforester1717]

A litany of incompetence laid bare. SNP - Squandering the Nation’s Purse. They forgot about the islanders, preferring to lavish our money - OUR hard earned taxes - on their ‘champion’ and their folies de grandeur. Small wonder they aren’t keen to attend and face the music. Disgraceful.

[@RedToriesBlueTories]

Tories have announced this week that they have lost 21 billion to government fraud. Any comment.

[@jennyporraz]

Suspend the lot if them or better still fire the lot starting with useless Humza what a bloody mess that the SNP/Greens have made of our beautiful country ,

[@jamesmoyes5685]

Sturgeon new what she was doing when she resigned.

[@jennyporraz]

@@jamesmoyes5685 of course she did 👍👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🙏

[@williambarnes3868]

Cant Recall? I thought that was what Minutes were for! The absolute incompetence of the SNP is staggering.

[@SaxonSuccess]

Keep minutes?? Don't be silly...

[@michaelshore2300]

That assumes you can read

[@Maryanne-tt8jn]

Republicans cannot be trusted they have misled the people of Scotland deliberately

[@R_McGeddon117]

The Green Gestapo should stick with what they do best, inventing new genders and organising drag shows for school kids, and leave technical things well alone

[@jamesroutledge9639]

Well said

[@hos65]

Why is the Scottish Parliament so empty during such an important discussion? This is ridiculous.

[@stephenswistchew7720]

You litterly took the wurds out o ma mooth well dun mactavish

[@gordonfleming458]

It’s not a parliament but a assembly

[@michellelandale1187]

The SNP think they are above the law that’s the problem.

[@markcf83]

Outstanding work Brian.

[@robfarquhar7780]

£340 million of taxpayers money and the chamber is almost empty where are they all

[@NevilleLumb-s7j]

They have cooked up so bad they are afraid to face the public they are supposed to represent, no one, wants the responsibility, just one member & she says that the funds will be paid back into the portfolio in a while but no one knows where the missing millions are or do they? Scotland is famous for porridge, it looks like there could be some large portions handed out when Westminster finds out & they want answers for the taxpayers urgent something is bent we need to see it straightened out so it can't happen again, get some White Scottish scholars in the ministry.,urgently.

[@mazlove6999]

Can't get your teeth fixed in Scotland,but hey ho ,we've got two ornamental ferries.

[@NaysayKen]

Just called about 5 different dentist’s for an appointment that will cost a fortune and I’ll have to wait until August because of the lack of dentist’s in the area absolutely disgusting from these crooks.

[@chrisryan5339]

Excellent stuff thanks. Chris from England.

[@RedToriesBlueTories]

England hates the corrupt tories just like Scotland

[@eleanorcrawford9978]

The SNP couldn’t run a stall in the Barras their that incompetent.

[@taffy2126]

Incompetence rules in Wales to🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@vh1775]

*they’re

[@vh1775]

*they’re

[@angusclark8330]

The reason the Glen Sannox is too big is that Greens were allowed to help draw up the spec. By making it the first - and only - dual fuel ferry, they doubled its tonnage under way and changed it from a local to an ocean going ship. Having a vessel yhat size for a two hour roud trip made no sense, so cabins, sleeping berths, bars, restaurants, you name it. To Ferguson's credit, they said as much early on, but once they realised that nobody in yhis country argues with the Greens, they seem to have just shrugged their shoulders and got on with it. Maybe the Glen Sannox, if it's ever finished, will be useful sailing to Norway and back. Stranger things...

[@Itsatimething]

I know very little about engineering or shipping. But I was having a conversation with my good friend who is an engineer (an ETO? It may mean something to someone, but not me) and who is about as far away from a Tory voter as it is possible to be. He is not interested in politics, but definitely leans Labour and SNP. I told him about this dual fuel thing and his response was that it’s okay, but it’s not groundbreaking and is actually a little pointless. He said if it was part fuel and part electric, then he can see the point. But apparently it’s just two variations of fuel?

[@mrdunns3338]

@@Itsatimething Correct about the dual-fuel issue. They were designed to run on (relatively) clean diesel rather than very dirty Heavy Oil and LPG. That in itself is nothing new, large LPG or LNG tankers have been using the boil-off from the cargo to power their engines for a long time. What CMAL and the snp failed to figure out is that there are no bulk LPG or LNG supplies available in the ports where these ferries would be operating and it would have to be taken in by road tanker, usually diesel powered, thus completely negating the idea of burning clean gas when in port as the road tankers would be adding to the overall emissions picture. Just another example of snp total incompetence and that's a very long (and getting longer) list of failures.

[@michaelshore2300]

And too big for the island docking, still that maybe sorted by the time they are operational estimated 7 years

[@slewvian]

Ignorance is no defence😆 the insanity of the SNP continues🤣

[@davidoldboy5425]

See there's the usual high attendance, MSP's now 'worrying from home' ? absolutely incredible that the ferry won't fit into the port it is due to sail from??? those consultants and their bonuses certainly were a bargain

[@Al_Pollock]

Yeah I hadn’t heard that one before. How do they plan on overcoming that problem.

[@davidoldboy5425]

@@Al_Pollock They'll probably change it's gender

[@davidoldboy5425]

@@Al_Pollock Just read (hope it's true) that due to 'oversights' the contract to rebuild the ports just went out last week. So the ferries will be delivered but the ports not ready for around 5 years?, you couldn't make this up could you. This is obviously being covered up as it's difficult to get the true picture, but time will tell. The new ferry for Ardrossan is going to Troon apparently on a temporary basis (many years lol) while they construct the berth you would have thought would be ready for it? I've checked with Peel Ports (Ardrossan owners) and yes the tenders have only just gone out, just as well the ferries weren't delivered on time eh?

[@charlesfalconer6231]

Sturgeon was the same during the alex salmond case __ i dont recall _ i cant remember _ it wisney me !! pathetic !!

[@christopherfranklin972]

If they pull the plug on 802 and the shipyard folds it will be because they are not commercially competitive,they are living on borrowed time and taxpayer handouts.

[@charlestaylor9424]

He says uncomfortable, I say hilarious.

[@SaxonSuccess]

Well, it is unless you're an islander. It's a catastrophe for them.

[@simonthompson3627]

Well said. It's very easy to spend someone else's money.

[@agw100100]

Now that's hat I call a proper arse kicking.

[@garethlewis2680]

The Scottish people voted the SNP IN over and over again. All on getting independence which would take Scotland into the dark ages. So much money lost into SNP minister’s pockets..

[@neiljohnstone6282]

Real Scots didn't vote the SNP in. The majority of us want them out.people who vote SNP can't call themselves real Scots.

[@markkochristiansen9811]

A minority voted for them...not all Scots are members of the cult

[@stephengray9032]

Why are people sllowed to get away with these statements. They should be sent away with a list of questions and be forced to come back when both sides have investigated for answers. If too many show the person in a bad light, they should be charged with perjury. "Cant recall" is unacceptable. How Sturgeon got away with this is a scandal

[@raybede]

The thought that the SNP have been in power for this length of time and are still unable to make good decisions in a competent way is something which should cover the Green/SNP coalition with Shame and they should ALL resign now and let some Adults take over. Poor Scotland, Brought so low.

[@zoon1543]

Now Sturgeon has been arrested I wonder how many more times she can't recall ?

[@margaretblack8303]

Has she been arrested?

[@charlespearson5268]

This man talks sense

[@Campbellero]

The SNP expect that their MSP jobs are for life, since the voting public have voted them time and time again. They've now been found out. The only way to get change is to vote them out at the next Scottish elections. Do it!

[@eveningstar3230]

that parliament is a joke, an embarassment

[@davidmt23]

I feel sorry for the island people that need the ferry . Unbelievable mismanagement. Ferry doesn't fit the port?! Wtactualf

[@jamesmoyes5685]

Dissolved government would be a start.

[@oldguy2976]

SNP need to be thrown out of office and many of them sent for trial .

[@reinmansmith]

Laid out in great detail but will we see this reported in the National UK press? I doubt it! Also look at the nearly empty chamber! Surely on such an important debate you would expect the MPs to have decency to be present and take part?? 😡

[@lanarkcd]

I have heard of compound interest, but compound incompetence and stupidity is something the SNP seem to have create and excelled in.

[@johnoneil4456]

A total scandal. The big problem is, youse are no better. were has all our brains gone. The country is in a dia, state. Our forefathers must be turning in their graves. All involved should be sacked, no golden handshakes!

[@johncrawford8214]

I see it is empty once more shut Scottish government down total waste of money

[@robeveritt]

Scotland deserve independence?…….. what a laugh.

[@forestranger312]

There seems to be more public in the chamber than members. What’s the point of the snp they’ve ruined Scotland. I remember at a young man being so proud of the welfare, health care, and education system. But now nothing in Scotland is to be proud of except the poor people and there continued hard work and commitment to making Scotland better. What’s needed is a committed party to start this process. It will, of course be generations before improvement wil, be seen but someone has to start and getting rid of this corrupt shower is critical.

[@roystone9932]

What company wanting a ship built is EVER going to give a contract to this shipyard , the fact is that between them and the SNP they have made themselves unviable , this yard will close once /if the Glen Sannox and Glen Rosa ever leave the clyde .

[@paul-c7541]

SNP will never get over this , should be disbanded, and if required start again.

[@alasdairfinlayson]

Never required in the first place. Nothing but trouble! Scottish born and bred!

[@jeanblyth6305]

That’s why she Ran away. The cookie jar was emptied out 😏

[@alexd7029]

If they can’t recall what should be on record. Charge them. Their memories may quickly return and blame them placed where it lies to save themselves. Unified cover up by all in the SNP . Good to see the other parties and their efforts to get to the truth.

[@Leitros-kj4qb]

There seem to be many questions and discussions about these two ferries. Thats all very well but why has a public enquiry not been set up. This would be chaired by a senior judge assisted by a marine engineer/ architect. It would have powers to summon witnesses and obtain documents.

[@alanfrost4661]

SubNormalParty

[@NevilleLumb-s7j]

Has any of the missing millions been invested in Gaza? & if not where the he'll has it all gone ,the bulk of that fund is uk tax payers money, don't come cap in hand ,ask nsp 1st minister he should know,but he needs removing from his position forthwith.

[@jamesmason8944]

Prestwick Airport is a USA military airbase. No way will they be allowed to sell it, unless it is to a holding company of the American military complex.

[@mrwhite9775]

Did anyone lose there job over this , or is this just been brushed under the carpet, along with everything else ??

[@audreymcleod6262]

This skews me phisicslly sick to the damage this deceitful evil heinous. Lot have done to our country and people have been putying up. With it. And the sorts thing about these ferries it they got it by giving. Back he handers no other way znd the audacity. Gobive them huge bonuses. For doing. A hellish job this seems to be the norm Now. If you eff up you leave with an absolute fortune. In bonuses. Great. If you can get it. Mess up and see what you get.

[@AndyA1234]

Who ever is going to procure a vessel from Ferguson Marine in the future? It'll cost 3x what was agreed and you'll get it some time, maybe.

[@ozzy8286]

I don't recall, ,,,,,, isnt this familiar???

[@nigelfrancis2514]

The Scottish people need some real men to stand up for them in parliament and destroy the SNP .The criticism is weakly put , the spokespeople are soft and cosy cosy , the attacks are pathetic , the facts need HAMMERING OUT to parliament and hammering home ; the objectors are so weak they are dismissed with the wave of a feather , and then forgotten

[@TheBaron481]

Nothing wrong with the SNP ! Look at the lovely new signs everywhere in Gaelic - a language only 2% of Scots understand 😂😂😂😂

[@johngreenhorn8853]

Only 1% speak it.

[@specialse]

And some of the words used arnt actual correct Gaelic like Ambaileans doent mean Ambulance it sort of means life saving lorry . they took a stab at it ( pun) but failed miserably as usual The Gaelic was also never spoken in lowland Scotland . its barely spoken in the Highlands any more .

[@margaretblack8303]

Ridiculous

[@andrewadam9544]

these ferries will never sail, and the ports rebuilds to accommodate them will never be finished

[@ianlaker6980]

And you haven't mentioned it's Westminster's fault yet 🤦

[@johnmcgowan2828]

Well said Brian , but do you need to read a script , and his only answer was to say ridiculous, basically sick of these MSP getting paid and other other folk write and do there work for them

[@tommyboy8588]

SNP synomous with, liars crooks, and thieves

[@johndavenport8843]

Investigations must be deep and wide, and people fired or charged as results dictate.

[@bobyoung9509]

Yes, let's continue to throw good money after bad, Millions of pounds, to keep folk in work supposedly building ferries... while other Island folk strive to live and work without the ferries. Only the SNP/Greens could be So Stupid! I'm assuming that none of the aforementioned money is finding it's way back to be "forgotten about".

[@7greyghost]

It would have been cheaper to pay each worker £1 million pounds as severance pay, than to carry on this failed project.

[@KatePowell-wl7sd]

Being brought up on the Clyde and having friends who served there apprenticeships in Troon shipyard those guys were the best of the best and are working all over the world also in Babcock building refinery’s in Shetland offshore and on wind farms most of them are supervisors in thier fields pipe fitters players welders shipwrights etc some have been asked to. Go into Ferguson I’m not going to class them as shipbuilders they would rather drive Tesco vans than go into that farcical yard that has ruined the fantastic reputation these guys have. Worked so hard for ps they don’t receive bonuses for jobs completed on time never mind years late feel so sorry and angry for the young apprentices who have no. Chance of being trained properly

[@stephenswistchew7720]

Have Scot’s people got daft. These days all over the world Scot’s we’re admired for thrifty ness snp spending money like a drunk sailor and some of them look like drunk sailors

[@danielsellers8538]

Lack of common sense supported by the slack Alice in the green party

[@normanmccutcheon4904]

Yes but they will remember to claim there expenses no problem there 😅😅😅

[@yvonnesmith2115]

Scotland built the 2 lauded Elizabeth Cllass aircraft carriers but cannot build 2 wee ferries? Something is wrong at the heart of the SG.

[@ianmoran1281]

It's always a cringe show watching the snp trying to wriggle out of any question they are asked!

[@alanstephen3371]

A joke party in a joke parliament

[@jamesyoung1078]

It would be better if instead of using the P.S. Waverley on cruises it did four round trips between Ardrossan and Bordick each day, true it cannot carry cars. However it would provide a useful link between those commuties while they wait for the M.V.s Glen Sannox or Surgeon's Folly rusting away in Port Glasgow.

[@JohnDoe-wb9ht]

ARRESTED🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MargaretWhite-fr8ij]

Prestwick Airport is now making a profit, i am led to beluevr they are now going to sell it. Why would you sell an asset which is now making a profit. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[@vh1775]

How much does a normal ferry cost?

[@blackislepeastoo]

A while back the RMS Queen Mary was built on the Clyde. One of the foremost luxury liners in that period. it took TWO years to build and cost (equivalent) far less than theses blurry ferries.

[@michaelshore2300]

First Minist how many First ministers are there ?/ does everyone get one ??

[@KizzyKismet1]

Ferries lol! Boris, Liz & Kwaki, Rishi £'s billions lol, FERRIES lol :)

[@KuroMicra]

Once MSPs are paid pro rata or on the basis of how often their incompetent corpulent backsides grace a parliamentary seat, we’ll see a busier chamber. Total languid indifference to Scotland, whilst rewarding themselves handsomely from the public purse.

[@allandickman774]

Snp 🤡🤡🤡

[@stephenswistchew7720]

This is why ships are built now in offshore countries the Scottish ship building was And I say WAS the best in the world at one time but nae mair

[@kangaroo2543]

The United Kingdom Conundrum Prologue In the case of MacCormick and Another v Lord Advocate 1953 Court of Session (on appeal)* Lord President Cooper remarked The principal of the unlimited sovereignty of Parliament is a distinctively English principal which has no counterpart in Scottish constitutional law. ~ ... ~Considering that the Union legislation extinguished the Parliaments of Scotland and England and replaced them by a new Parliament, I have difficulty in seeing why it should have been supposed that the new Parliament of Great Britain must inherit all the peculiar characteristics of the English Parliament but none of the Scottish Parliament, as if all that happened in 1707 was that Scottish representatives were admitted to the Parliament of England. That is not what was done. ~... Introduction Well our ancestors weren't stupid, they did the best they could with an English Naval blockade and an Army at the border. The Darrien expedition failed due to the blockade. Scots possessions in England were to be seized and Scots treated as "aliens". The English clearly had "Mens Rea", a guilty mind, and were threatening invasion. So the Scots took the money, kept their English lands and prevented mass casualties, but by signing a treaty, they left the door with a key in the lock. Lord Cooper's remarks invite us to examine what was done, so lets have a look, let's examine the Treaty* and its implications for Sovereignty, the Constitution and the Law and the realisation that the merger could not be achieved and so a compromise was reached which camoflaged the situation. The Treaty The Treaty of Union has stood as the framework for the United Kingdom since 1st May 1707. It is what binds Scotland and England together, it needs to be examined and interpreted. This examination includes both what it actually says and what it omits, the latter being the more significant. The Treaty is a legal document and should have a reference to the dictionary of terms. Failing that then the reader is entitled to use the ordinary meaning of words. The dictionary would naturally have to be one that existed prior to 1706. I can't find a reference to a dictionary. Don't worry if you are not a lawyer as long as you can read and interpret the words. The key here is don't make assumptions, the Treaty should be read as is without embellishment. The interpretation should be, in the words of the Pharaoh "As it is written, so shall it be". Sovereignty Article 1 of the Treaty is by far the most important as it links the two Kingdoms as being united as Great Britain. It states as follows "That the two Kingdoms of Scotland and England, shall, upon the first Day of May next ensuing the Date hereof, and for ever after, be united into one Kingdom by the Name of Great-Britain,..~." Now there is a clear distinction between a Country and a Kingdom. If one goes outside and picks up some dirt, it has the characteristics of visibility, smell, touch, taste, and if you drop it you can hear it hitting the ground. This is the "Country or Land" where people live, so Scotland and England refer to a real tangible item defined by geographical boundaries inhabited by Scots or Angles as the case may be, a Country. A "Kingdom" has none of these characteristics, it is abstract, ethereal, imaginary and intangible a purely Political concept existing solely in the minds of men. For the two Kingdoms to be fully united as one, with one all powerful polity requires that Sovereignty be identical in the two Kingdoms. This was never the case, in the Kingdom of Scotland the people were Sovereign and in the Kingdom of England it has jumped from Monarch to Parliament and back on various occasions, to my knowledge it has never been with the people. This anomaly is obvious when you consider that James VI titled the King of Scots, became the King of England in 1603. If the Sovereignty had been the same the Kingdom of England would have been incorporated and renamed the Kingdom of Scotland. This was not done, confirming two crowns on one head and not a union of the crowns. In the ensuing century the Monarch was variously executed and forced into exile with Oliver Cromwell proclaiming the English Parliament to be Sovereign in the interregnum. Royal Assent The Monarch has to Assent for a Bill to be passed. That makes sense in the English Kingdom as the Monarch is Sovereign and therefore has veto power, not so in the Scottish where the Monarch is obligated to Assent as Parliamentary votes carry the people's Sovereignty. The Constitution Asked in the House of Commons whether the United Kingdom has a Constitution Jacob Rees-Mogg quipped "Yes, an unwritten one" or words to that effect. Wikipedia suggests that what is really meant is an "uncodified Constitution" a constitution by various written and unwritten laws and customs. So it exists and there being no evidence that it has solely been created since 1st May 1707 then it must have existed, at least in part, prior to the Treaty of Union, and was not extinguished by the Treaty. As the source must have been one or both parties to the Treaty it follows that both Kingdoms Constitutions must have carried forward. So the written Scottish Constitution must be extant as does the English. They were either commingled by the Treaty or they remained separate and distinct. If commingled then the written Scottish Constitution must be superior to the English given that they cannot readily identify their version. If not then both constitutions exist in the present but only have effect in the jurisdictions corresponding to their previously existing boundaries. The Law Now Article XXV suggests that the Laws of the two Kingdoms continued but effectively remained separate except for the specific provisions of the Treaty that stated otherwise. The Compromise Now we have the situation that the Sovereignty, Constitution and the Laws of Scotland remain extant, at least in Scotland. The differing Sovereignty and Constitutions were never resolved, they were conveniently ignored and the concept of the "Crown in Parliament" introduced as the compromise position. The two parties having voting blocks which largely agreed and where disagreement happened then the overall majority won out. This is NOT the implication of the Treaty. Sovereignty was never mentioned, and as it belonged to the Scottish people it could not be transferred to the new united Kingdom of Great-Britain. The two Sovereignties being oil and water cannot be commingled and therefore must logically coexist and by their admission that the United Kingdom has an unwritten Constitution then the Scottish Constitution must also exist and Scottish law is extant as described in the Treaty. So in regard to the three crucial matters the Treaty has hardly changed the lawful situation at all. Parliament of Great Britain In fact, "lawfully", the Scots Members of Parliament simply moved from Edinburgh to London and in moving they took the Scottish Parliament with them. Two distinct Parliaments sitting in the same Chamber, each Parliament representing their respective Kingdoms. So we have a United Kingdom in name only and these two voting blocks must be counted separately and legislation only passed for Great-Britain, as a whole, if both blocks agree. If only one block passes a bill then that can only be for that particular Kingdom and not for the other, alternatively some bills may carry a veto where both blocks must pass the bill otherwise it does not become law. So the Kingdom of England has no rights over the Kingdom of Scotland or the Country and cannot remove resources, real things, of any kind without Scots express agreement. Further examination of the Treaty and the above commentary reveals that there is no impediment to the establishment of a Scottish Central Bank, a mint etc and a reduction in UK Government offices in Scotland including UK Income Tax and Immigration. Gas and Oil drilling licences can be cancelled and reissued by the Kingdom of Scotland, all revenues being Scottish. By now you've got the drift, enforcing the Treaty provisions means Scotland can administer all the economic levers necessary to improve the way of life of its people. I'm sure there are benefits in retaining the UK, for example joining EFTA and transiting goods via the Channel ports and/or creating a Northern Ireland style of EU Customs checks. Google "maccormick and another v lord advocate on appeal" for Lord Coopers remarks. "Treaty of Union 1707" for the full version of the Treaty

[@Gary-le7dz]

Apparently he had the same answering questions at an inquiry truth coach as sunak and Johnson

[@lindawatson2414]

Deflecting again, what have Johnson and Sunak to do with Scottish ferries

[@KuroMicra]

The SNP remind me of kids playing whilst their parents are absent. Putting on the clothes and assuming the trappings of adulthood whilst shouldering no responsibility whatsoever for whatever occurs as a result. And I mean no disrespect to kids, whom I solemnly believe, could do a better job than this pathetic band of virtue signallers without substance or any form of political conscience.

[@ronniemac2636]

More obtuse and nonsense comment. Have you got your money back yet?😢

[@peregrinepete]

😂

[@flyingfox7854]

Ye Tak the high road and I’ll tak the low road but I’ll get richer before ye … fer me and your money will forever happy be on the Bonnie Bonnie Banks of the Mediterranean … 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶

[@murraymaclean3048]

Can all or any of these colonists tell us how much money has Westminster taken from the North Sea oil industry and all the tax revenue generated from the down stream businesses. Also the figure Westminster takes from Scotland each year and the money returned , I’ve tried a FOI every year for the last thirteen years and never got an answer other than “ being Scottish your not entitled to know “ .

[@petergordon4525]

You don't need a FOI to find out Scotland revenue versus expenditure, you just need to read Scotgovs yearly published accounts.... Last year Scotland raised £73.776billions, but had £97.502 billion spent in and for by both its governments!

[@davidoldboy5425]

@@petergordon4525 That told him, sad thing is he'll never accept it

[@petergordon4525]

@@davidoldboy5425 I think we was just a nationalist plant! Imagine thinking anyone would believe " being Scottish your not entitled to know "

[@ianlaker6980]

​@@petergordon4525 That's because he's got the same financial credibility as the SNP. IE it's free money for from the Tax payers Tree 🤦

[@spearmint47]

What are you claiming Murray.?..that Scotland received no share of that income. They love to compare themselves to rich Norway, same size, same population same resources, difference is Norway dose'nt have the SNP running them, or more accurately ' ruining ' them.

[@jimmyamour9111]

Jail him

[@joemorgan4484]

At last a member who knows what he’s talking about 👏👏

[@Teenibash1969]

Well said

[@MargaretWhite-fr8ij]

Well said