festool track saw docking station dave stanton woodworking mft-3 woodworking projects

[@manuelsfishnet]

Sir just love your reasoning on issues with your engineering when installing a track rail mount I don't have one but it gives me wonderful useful ideas. Thank u

[@DavidStanton]

Cool, thanks

[@bougie86]

Hi Dave, I've order these 2x2m track from Festool last week and waiting for shipping. I have an idea to make a longer MFT and today I found your video. 6 years old video and it's the best on KZbin, you're the man of future Dave. Really appreciate your tips on the table. Take care :) - Regards, Bao From Tasmania

[@DavidStanton]

Sounds great!

[@bougie86]

@@DavidStanton Thank you. It's 6-8 weeks shipping from Germany, Carbatec order. I'll let you know the outcome. Cheers

[@chrishepburn6324]

This man is a genius,bloody genius.

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for watching Chris!

[@p8ntblr1]

Great idea Dave. Now to figure out how to fit it in my already cramped shop.

[@JRBardown]

Oh man I wish there were plans. I mean, you've explained everything enough it's something one could work out, but sometimes it's nice to just work off a sheet. Well done mate.

[@DavidStanton]

Maybe in the future when I get a spare minute or 2?

[@JRBardown]

Haha. I know how those elusive spare moments work! Thanks for all the info, no matter what!

[@Pete.G]

Things like this are tempting me to try making my own cabinets... You make it seem so easy!

[@DavidStanton]

Pete G It really is easy. I will do a video soon showing the basics for making a box out of ply or melamine to get you started.

[@markvreeken]

Very nice just the ticket for making melamine kitchen cabinets. Cheers and keep up the good work !!

[@DavidStanton]

Mark Vreeken Thanks Mark. I try to make things that make life easier.

[@Elgintensity]

Barry's right behind you until 0:22. Then, he ninja vanishes!

[@DavidStanton]

Infinite Elgintensity He is a sneaky little guy.

[@HeavyboxesDIYMaster]

Great video! David Stanton...you have done it again!

[@DavidStanton]

Heavyboxes I'm full of them, keep coming back!

[@diycentral]

Definitely something I would like to make for my main shop. Thanks.

[@Yannis2022]

I am about to build a similar table measuring a table capacity of 3750x1250mm comprising a 1400 rail mounted with bolts. By this I can have the tilting guide rail in a fix position and still be able to make 90 degree off cut on up to 1250x2500mm sheets at any part of the length. For the other direction I use a 3000mm guide rail and a second 1400 rail for other than 90 degree. It was a smart idea with the support wall in the middle to support the table lengthwise. I will change the construction on my version using a supportwall despite the torsion box top. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@DavidStanton]

+JN 2013 I hope it works well for you!

[@michaelkaye4998]

Great idea. Nice job

[@DavidStanton]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

Another brilliantly well thought out bit of Kit Dave. Great Video quality. I haven't got the room for a cabinet saw, been looking at getting a Single Phase Wadkin on eBay, but the more I think about it the less I need it! I have the HK85EB and that has all the power I need, but I do want the accuracy of a cabinet saw, with my Incra 1000SE Mitre Fence. I'm currently using a real cheap 1800W circular saw just set foe square rips on an insert adaptor I made for my router table. I'm open to some of your great lateral thinking for some ideas!

[@DavidStanton]

Hmmm, a challenging thought......

[@tristanluc7008]

can you make video show what to buy, and step on how to make one like that. I have been searching for this for so long.

[@bigdogmn73]

Love it. I want to build one like this, but I want the FESTOOL side extrusions with the Ron Paulk base below the extrusion, but I would have the MFT top as well and have it as an outfeed table for my table saw with sustainer storage below the Ron Paulk portion of the top all on casters.

[@DavidStanton]

I built it like that before and found it was a problem when assembling and trying to cut on the one table. That is why I made this second unit.

[@bigdogmn73]

got ya! Well I'll keep that in mind. For the moment with my shop size I'm going to just get the mft/3 as I need more table top space and I'll build the other one later.

[@henrysworkshop7477]

you could also use the Festool routers on the guide rail which would make routing dados really quick in large boards

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Henry. I have to buy a Festool router first. All in good time.

[@caseyseverini5898]

Henrys Workshop i

[@OldIronShops]

Very clever Dave

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Old Iron Shops!

[@antonoat]

David that's a really neat solution, more versatile than my standard mft, I imagine. Think I'm going to screw my fence to the back of the mft, it is possible for it to move slightly just relying on the Festool arrangement. Your remote control is very neat, does it also control your wife to bring you a cup of tea or coffee, lol. cheers tony

[@DavidStanton]

Remote seems to be faulty every time I aim it in her direction! The festool arrangement is pretty good if you are using both clamps.

[@i.r.william]

Great build Dave and thanks for sharing this! As I pull together my shop, you are providing great inspiration and for that I thank you! I see now how you use your HPLV dust collector. Question: Is the HPLV a Festool product and will you show how you have that mounted/installed that another post (or maybe it is detailed in an earlier one you could reference)? I am building a bench design from Ron Paulk (modified to 4' x 6') that has a cross cut jig. I plan on setting this up like you have done. Keep 'em comin'! Cheers!

[@DavidStanton]

William Rambo HPLV is a Carbatec unit, the FM-300 pulling air through an Oneida super dust deputy. I can show in a future video how I converted the Carbatec unit.Thanks again and keep subscribing and let the adds run their course, it all helps me to bring these clips to you. There may be something you are interested as they try to match product with content.

[@i.r.william]

***** Thanks David, although now I'm confused (not the first time and won't be the last :D). I would have thought this was more of a shop vac style unit to call it high pressure low volume. The FM300 looks similar to an entry level dust collector that I have seen in the US (Central Machinery sold by Harbor Freight) and looks like the unit you have in video#44?

[@DavidStanton]

William Rambo sorry, not used to using initials for naming items. You are correct, the FM-300 is a high volume low pressure item, HVLP

[@DavidStanton]

***** the other unit I have is a high pressure low volume and is not a Festool, it is a vacmaster.

[@DavidStanton]

***** The vacmaster has died and now there is a little ryobi. I am saving up for the festool!

[@g00thier]

Awesome table! I had no idea the TS 55 was so good at cutting melamine. Just in time, cause i'm about to build a couple of cabinets and still wasn't sure how to cut them :)

[@g00thier]

g00thier Interested in building my own version of this table I've been doing some research. I've been able to find the rails from the MFT3, but I can't seem to find the system to attach the FS 1400 rail to it. Do you know what it's called or they actually sell this individually? Thanks. Gauthier

[@DavidStanton]

g00thier You can usually find everything here. ekat.festool.de/login/jsp/main.jsp?doAction=start&autologin=true&userId=US-Kunde-FT_US&password=Customer&design=festool

[@g00thier]

thanks!

[@Jenny_bell_key]

Sweet! You have a nice setup there.

[@DavidStanton]

Jenn B. thanks jenn!

[@tcbridges]

Do you have a print out kit for this table also

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Thomas Bridges! Not yet.

[@tcbridges]

I will one of your first customers to have it I hope. Its really nice. I'm thinking of just buying the other one you make even thought I bought your plans

[@DanielTaylor-hn4ut]

Love this. I know from seeing your shop tour from 12/21 that you have rebuilt this setup. I like the t track used. Do you have any video on that rebuild? TIA.

[@DavidStanton]

Not yet Daniel.

[@DanielTaylor-hn4ut]

@@DavidStanton Love to see that when and if you do it.

[@twong789]

Thanks for sharing your ideas. Great source of information. Thanks. Btw, you look like Eddie Van Halen. Cheers from Canada!

[@DavidStanton]

twong789 Hey, thanks for the feedback. I can see the similarity but he is way greyer than me. lol.

[@elvisoshaughnessy4109]

Hi Dave, how are you.i wonder if you could make video on how to use plunge track saw which including setting the depth cut for beginners who using the saw.i have not seen any video how to use it.

[@DavidStanton]

Sounds like a plan Elvis O'shaughnessy

[@elvisoshaughnessy4109]

@@DavidStanton thank you

[@DonDomel]

Your ideas are like new incredible Inspector Gadget - gadgets; )

[@DavidStanton]

DonDomel Thank you for the compliment.

[@guitarchitectural]

I love this! I'm endeavouring to set up a workshop and I'm trying to do away with some of the crappy old tools I have, and with space at a premium, avoid unnecessary tools... chief among those, in my mind, is a SCMS. I have been looking at track saws and kept wondering why, in a post track-saw world, the track saw can't take the place of the mitre station. not only that, but greatly increase the capacity of what can be done at a mitre station. I imagined in my mind the exact setup you have here! only difference is that I'm imagining it with MFTs as a top so that one could use bench dogs + things. the MFT gets one half way to not needing a SCMS, but at huge expense and in a way that doesn't really fit into a workshop... it really seems to be dedicated to portable workflows. so, thanks for this video! can I ask why you put the ruler so far away? isn't it hard to see + use? is it possible to put it at the rail closest to you? now my task is to figure out how i can build this, starting with a track saw and two sawhorses...

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the feedback and compliments. I measure at the back because the track is mounted on a hinge at the back of the unit and it is easier to align correctly prior to locking the front section of the track down. Keep watching as I will be showing a few interesting products that may interest you.

[@guitarchitectural]

David Stanton could you put a positive stop on the side close to you, to butt the guide up against? how often do you use your kapex, out of curiosity?

[@piee683]

That's a good job you did,I wish I had all those festools you should try the 5 cut method to test your accuracy of squareness

[@DavidStanton]

+jerry o connor . Thanks Jerry! Been using the 5 cut for a few years now.

[@piee683]

+David Stanton ct l 26 is next on my list only thing is persuading the missus on how much I badly need it lol

[@DavidStanton]

+jerry o connor . Tell her the truth, ' It reduces the dust big time!".

[@rolandbryan6366]

Great video Dave, been looking forward to making something similar for myself. Thanks for all the videos, enjoy them greatly! Take care.

[@DavidStanton]

Roland Bryan thanks Roland, I enjoy making them and it puts the icing on the cake when people take time to let me know its appreciated.

[@Sly_Wolf_1]

Lovely sir, thank you for taking the time to share. One question if i may? I understand that the Makita track saw will run on a Festool track, but would i be able to copy your system part for part and change only the track from Festool to makita? Not sure if you can answer or maybe one of your subscribers. Thank you in advance.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Sly Wolf. The Makita will run on the Festool guide rail.

[@alexc5369]

really cool. Do you ever find yourself wanting to cut larger that 800mm at times? Do you think an angled docking station would be practical, say, if the table was at a 45 angle to get a full 1200 sheet, similar to the verticle wall mounted type

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Alex. Never had the need to do wider than 800 in a finish docking situation. I do sheet breakdown with the track saw on top of the assembly table if needed but usually an edge, rip on table saw and then through the docking station I am demonstrating here.

[@LewiUberg]

You are making a new version now, or am I wrong?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Lewi, Yes I have.

[@LewiUberg]

@@DavidStanton really looking forward to the video ;) I won't plan my own until I see it :D

[@cathaldoherty115]

Hi Dave. How did you fix the the main guide profile to the docking station? Just bought the profile and the guide rail supports but don't know how i'm going to fit it onto my bench.

[@MREJ63]

Would love to know the answer to this myself if possible Dave. Thanks!

[@utai4571]

well in europe we have a great solution if you have 25m² of free space and 5000€ , it's a format saw , you can cut and cross cut sheets as long as 3 meters, but let's be honest , as small hobbyists or just small pro builders, it's not a suitable solution, not for everyone tho ! Your solution is great, it's exactly what i was looking for, i can't put a big format saw in my shop, because of lack of space and money, and also because i don't use it that often, i mainly build small stuff like guitars, and for this type of build, a table saw is basically useless , but when i build cabinets or furniture for my house and shop ... there is not a single piece that is cut square !

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for watching my video on this easy to build and use alternative to monster machines!

[@elvisoshaughnessy1255]

Hi Dave how are you, I saw your last video regarding removing that tree. It seems you are multi skill person I've seen.Good job.

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Elvis!

[@jamescollard9724]

are their plans for this unit similar to what you have provided for the mft style bench?

[@DavidStanton]

Not yet James. I will get around to it.

[@DavidStanton]

You can make this, but larger. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a162q4WYi7WimJI

[@ErikAnderson1]

I wish I had the space for one of these tables, I would make one. I made a poor mans version at a shop I work at. I had to process 250 sheets of stock that were not square sheet goods and I did it quickly with the table I made out of ply wood and MDO medium density overlay.

[@DavidStanton]

+Erik Anderson This table works very well. I made it this size mainly because I finally do have the room.

[@ErikAnderson1]

+David Stanton I hope to have a large workshop one day! Thanks again for your great videos!

[@purplepasssion]

I love how Barry loves to be with his papa!!

[@DavidStanton]

purplepasssion He is like my shadow, can't get away from him. He is asleep on my foot while I am typing this reply.

[@carpenterone3]

Always impressive David!

[@twisterbigmac]

Awesome table, I'm not sure how the hinge for the track work, is it fixed? so you have a limitation of material thickness that you can cut on it?

[@DavidStanton]

+Eason Qin . The limit is governed by the depth of the saw cut which is 50 mm. The hinge system is Festool's MFT-3.

[@twisterbigmac]

Thanks David, i see how it works now. I'm going to build one too, :)

[@tcbridges]

I would love to have the drawings and layout to make tgi table. I am hoping you have made the table for us guys out here wanting to get into wood fork fun projects

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Thomas Bridges! The plans for the new version will be available early next year.

[@tcbridges]

Love your shop. The 2 side rais or tracks where can I buy them

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Thomas. I don't think you can anymore. I have a 2 metre length available if you want to message me.

[@answerdekker2412]

davidi looking always too you . i am from the nederlands [ holland ] i wil ask you , where can i buy the festool track for a workbench.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Ans Werdekker. I think I put a link in the video? Anyway, I purchased from Festool.

[@henrysworkshop7477]

Great tip, will be building myself one of these

[@DavidStanton]

Henrys Workshop Great idea and works a treat!

[@garykarczewski6678]

Love your benches. They are so clean and modern looking. Question it looks like many of the surfaces you have are either hard glue laminate like for counter tops is that correct?

[@DavidStanton]

That is right Gary. Thanks for the compliment!

[@garykarczewski6678]

Great I am going to do the same thing. I presume you use a sacrificial top on top of those for cuts and such and or paper layered for gluing right? Or are you just wiping them down with a solvent?

[@garykarczewski6678]

Your welcome. If you have plans let us know on these benches.

[@DavidStanton]

Sacrificial tops and I glue straight on top, use a chisel to run over when finished. The glue has a hard time sticking to laminate.

[@tiitsaul9036]

thanks for sharing. Good ideas you have. I just went online and checked festool prices. In america they go for about half the price compared to Australia! whaaat?

[@DavidStanton]

Correct

[@tiitsaul9036]

Just wondering how do you cut down 1200mm sheets? Are you just using longer track and taking your time to square it off?

[@DavidStanton]

Tiit Saul My process is to use the track saw to dress one full edge of a sheet. I then use my cabinet saw to rip to width. The last stage is using this setup to dock the lengths that I require. My widest panel that I would use is 800mm which I can do here. If I do need to cut a full sheet square at one end I will use the 3.4.5 method and set my track to those marks.

[@tiitsaul9036]

Cool. It all makes sense.

[@BFitz1976]

How did you turn off the vac with the remote control

[@DavidStanton]

+Brian Fitzgerald Have a look at my dust collection video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HFaZSLmbKDjc0

[@jjjerbear777]

hi dave . i have a mft /3 and was thinking i'd get the longer side tracks to expand my mft to 6 ft long , but the link to the side tracks you posted dont work for me ... do you have another link ? ps .. love your channel :)

[@DavidStanton]

jjjerbear777, unfortunately I do not. Festool don't sell it in 2 metre lengths anymore. You could go to their spare parts catalogue and search for mft profile. ekat.festool.de/login/jsp/main.jsp?doAction=start&autologin=true&userId=Kunde-FT_AU&password=Customer&design=festool

[@coleandrews25]

How about a list of parts. Awesome setup .

[@DavidStanton]

+Cole Andrews I have added the festool parts to the video. Are you not able to see them?

[@lj4nf3]

@@DavidStanton please update the part list

[@daz350]

Another great video... keep them coming mate :-)

[@DavidStanton]

daz350 Thanks for the encouragement.

[@ernestoalonsoYT]

Hi Dave, I’ve been following you for some time now (I thought I had subscribed, but when I checked just now,it turned out I hadn’t clicked the Subscribe button before! so..., I just did 😉 - Great videos, informative and explanatory, and straightforward 👍👍 Just a question, the 2 stops on the tracks (front and back) of the MFT3 table come factory pre-positioned and tightened, so that when mounting rail on the “hinge” and the receiving part with the tip, it is 90º with respect to the MDF (the holes grid, actually). With your customised cutting table, I suppose you have had to check several times, to align the hinge and receiving part, and were 90º with respect to the fence. Did you have to fiddle a lot, or did you came up with some easier method of aligning and squaring up? (I hope I explained myself). Cheers! Ernesto, Barcelona, Spain.

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for subscribing! Have a look at the video I did on the Tso triangle.

[@DavidStanton]

Here is the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qarVpISGl89pbLc

[@ernestoalonsoYT]

@@DavidStanton Thank you so much, Dave!

[@petera1033]

David - BRILLIANT!! I've been thinking about improving on the MFP3 - didn't know you could get the 2 meter festool extrusions - perfect mate - nice torsion box as well... btw did I hear you correctly when you said - you recommend the Aluminium blade for melamine? Pete

[@DavidStanton]

Peter A Yes Pete, but I am having second thoughts. After more use the fine cut www.festool.com.au/saw-blade-160mm-x-2/2-x-20mm-48-tooth is the better option.

[@DavidStanton]

***** I have removed the part of the video that recommends using the blade designed for aluminium. Just to remove any confusion.

[@DavidStanton]

***** I have a new addition to my docking station that I will work on over the next few weeks. Stay tuned!!

[@LewiUberg]

Hi Dave! If I understand you correctly, you make your cuts from the same place on the table every time? So I'm wondering, do you need that much track?

[@DavidStanton]

Correct. No, I don't but that was the only way Festool sold it. The track can also be used to mount other things such as clamps and also the plate that holds the vac sys.

[@LewiUberg]

I'm having trouble finding the extrusion. Do you know what they're called?

[@DavidStanton]

Have a look here. www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectID=24531

[@vvjkumar]

@@DavidStanton Nice video. link is not working. Do you have the Festool part number.?

[@paulelliott4954]

Hi Dave. Can the links above be used to purchase in the UK or do they only work in Australia. Great channel.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Paul. The links are Australian but the codes should be the same internationally. Check with your local festool dealers.

[@jonesconrad1]

wish I had a space to work in like this, I'm working in the big bedroom at the front of the house at the moment (currently refurbing) neighbours are not happy.

[@DavidStanton]

I sell a bench especially for people in your situation.

[@stevet47]

Dave, you showed how the front stop adjusts for different material thicknesses, I assume the back adjusts the same way, is this correct?

[@DavidStanton]

Yes Steve. You place the item you want to cut under the rear of the track and release the support clamp and then retension and then the same at the front. I repeat the back again just to make sure.

[@richardshaw3094]

Do you have plans for this

[@DavidStanton]

No Richard. I just built it.

[@latech15]

Hello Dave, I have been binge watching your channel this weekend and have got a whole list of new projects for my shop. This particular one is awesome and is on the top of my to do list. I'm not finding the longer profiles on festool's site. Any help with a part number?

[@DavidStanton]

+latech15 I thought I had put the codes on the video?

[@latech15]

+David Stanton I read that in another comment and have been looking all over and didn't find them anywhere. Did you give the numbers in the description, or as a subtitle or what. What am I missing??

[@latech15]

+David Stanton I found the codes, but it appears that the longer rails aren't available in the US. The more I think about it, length of the rails really has nothing to do with it, right? The rails just hold the hinge and the stop/support on the front side. If they never move, then what is the point of the longer rails? I should be able to make as large of a table as I want and just use the rails from the standard MFT/3.

[@DavidStanton]

+latech15 You can get by with the MFT rails. I like the long ones because I can use the festool clamps to hold items on the edge of the table for whatever reason.

[@JW77]

Isn't this just like a radial arm saw?

[@DavidStanton]

Similar but it is a bit more versatile and delivers a cleaner cut to the top surface.

[@BFitz1976]

Can you add the product codes

[@DavidStanton]

+Brian Fitzgerald . Hi Brian. The codes are on the video around 4 minutes in. You must allow pop ups etc to see them. may not work on mobile devices. Have a look on a desktop computer.

[@andypandy955]

Checked this out fab idea but Festool parts expensive there must be another way!!!!!!!!!!

[@DavidStanton]

Make a larger version of this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a162q4WYi7WimJI

[@elvisoshaughnessy1255]

No worries mate

[@dennisbinyon9023]

gday Dave I just priced the profile edges and the lifts for both sides wow over $1k

[@DavidStanton]

Yes, they have increased the price a fair bit since I built this table!