Feud Season 2: Joanne Carson on Truman Capote's Death and the Swans Fallout (Flashback)

[@doreendaykin6693]

I’m so grateful to have found this interview. Gratitude for posting it🙏💙

[@oppothumbs1]

Truman didn't write bad things about Joanne Carson, so who is she to know the destruction he brought? Of course, I never read "Answered Prayers", but I think he should have disguised the characters better.

[@joansutton]

How nice to hear about Truman from a real friend of his. What a smart and kind woman, Joanne Carson.

[@hiroll8618]

May she rest in peace

[@michelleadams474]

He had many "real" friends whom he betrayed.

[@bruced.campbell4498]

@@michelleadams474They were NOT real friends, they kept him around for their entertainment. He understood that, in their eyes, he was the court jester.

[@michelleadams474]

@@bruced.campbell4498 Frankly I think they all deserved each other, but it's not nice to humiliate people who were good to you and they were good to him; they accepted him, trusted him, let him into their circles and treated him to vacations, etc., and if he indeed felt used he could have chosen to move on.

[@dorrielove]

@@bruced.campbell4498 Yes my mother called those people acquaintances not friends. These Women snickered about Truman behind his back. Remember never tell anyone anything you don’t want repeated.

[@lindafray1398]

this is wonderful of Joanne. She passed in 2015. I'm fascinated by this VIDEO! Thank you for posting❤So much about his death, and she setting the record straight!

[@damemarthafalker6738]

I enjoy listening to Joanne Carson. I wouldn't mind hearing her voice on the audiobook for the Truman autobiography. It would ring with a deeper nuance of truth because she was there. I miss her type of style and elegance. We don't see that enough these days.

[@reginafris6822]

But she died in May of 2015.

[@damemarthafalker6738]

@@reginafris6822 Well, missed opportunity. Sally Kellerman was another actress who was gifted with a rich voice for oratory. Ladies like them respected and valued the craft on a whole other level.

[@corym8358]

Great story. I've discovered Truman Capote through watching Feud. Currently reading a collection of his short stories. Brilliant writer!!

[@packnetadaija]

This season of feud is really good!

[@elexis3728]

I really like it too. I couldn’t really get into the first one but the 2nd keeps me waiting for a new episode. I wonder who will be feuding in season 3. There’s no need to stop affectionate this finale.

[@lucifersapphire8412]

“I don’t wear it anymore because Truman is not here to enjoy it..” Truly beautiful.

[@stephanieellenbogen5570]

How nice that he had such a loyal, loving friend to the end.

[@schanychamemphis1327]

he did not deserve good friends after his betrayals.

[@davidwright873]

Very rare indeed

[@bobbicampbell5233]

It's wonderful that she had nothing but kind things to say about Truman, and I'm sure in his own way he did have some capacity for decency and real friendship - certainly he had a lot of talent, even until the end (his final piece, "Meeting Willa Cather", was eventually published and very, very good). But, having known a vicious creature or two in my time, they can be the sweetest, most docile of pups when they have their tails between their legs, and make it virtually impossible anyone they've never turned on to believe they ever would...until they do. When it came to Mrs. Carson, it may have been that he did have a friendship with her he never did with his Swans, or perhaps he'd even learned his lesson from his betrayal of them, but I doubt it; he was simply in no position to bite the only hand that still fed him by that point.

[@roberthurley6860]

Many sociopaths are quite charming and glib.

[@bobbicampbell5233]

@@roberthurley6860 Indeed, and their cousin the narcissists do, too. They have an uncanny knack for wrapping people around their little fingers and know just what to say and do while they slip on the noose without the subject of their charm being any the wiser. Masterful.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

You said it- excellent. Please check out my comment above.

[@laurastrobel718]

Truman was special. My late mother was a fan and bought a copy of Music For Chameleons in paperback and gave it to me when she was finished reading it. When he passed, the local paper quoted Joanne in the account and she was so grief stricken. It affected me as well. Thanks for the interview. RIP Truman Capote 💐💖🌈🕊️

[@robertlarson713]

Hi, Laura! I just wanted to say that I just borrowed "Music For Chameleons" from the library on Tuesday after returning "In Cold Blood" which was a wonderfully written true crime novel by Mr. Capote. I really enjoyed watching Capote Vs. The Swans on FX. I look forward to reading a collection of his writings. With Best regards, Bobby Larson

[@laurastrobel718]

@@robertlarson713 That's great 😃 Hope you enjoy it 🤗

[@jz94109]

Really interesting video. Appreciate it after watching the commercialized version. What a difference.

[@lorraineclark1838]

It's a lot easier to say nice things about somebody when he stabbed somebody ELSE in the back. If he BETRAYED her in the most intimate, cruel and needless way, would she still be one of his sycophants?

[@c.c.6930]

The Swans were not his friends. It is beautifully explained in the series. The Swans did not have friends.They couldn't, they were too self-centered and self-absorbed.He was a kind of court jester they disposed of.

[@kevinrussell6530]

@@c.c.6930 if the Swans weren't his friends, then he certainly put on a great act making it look like they were.

[@c.c.6930]

@@kevinrussell6530 Sure! it flattered his ego, helped calm down his insecurities. There was the fatal trap.

[@David-ii3bi]

I'm enchanted by this insightful expose of an American genius and icon. Creatve people are often brilliantly comprised of a unique mixture of intelligene, complexity.and oddity. Aorus essentiel d'autres dimensions. bravo

[@WT9999Z]

What wonderful thing to have a friendship like that. You can tell she adored him.

[@circussounds855]

truman was the kindest, gentlest, malicious gossip.

[@osimeon00]

She only defended him because her and her husband weren't subjects in his book. She would be singing a different tune if he exposed his west coast friend circle.

[@ElizabethT45]

You make a good point. There are a few swans he didn't talk about, like Gloria Guiness, Marella Agnelli, and Pamela Harriman.

[@wesstkilda]

Maybe it says more about their genuine friendship and love for each other because he never wrote about her.

[@osimeon00]

@@wesstkilda He's a snake.

[@sallyasmree4079]

@@wesstkildaIn time, he would have. Snake.

[@julesjay424]

In the series it seems like he did

[@grwoobie1297]

She got left by Johnny for the next Joanna and was devastated so she's not being very honest. Capote also had nobody left but Joanne because he had betrayed the other women with the book.

[@AAZEDLARC]

Yeah, not impressed by this interview. It was kind of her to take him in but both were kind of down and out at that point (which is sad)

[@grwoobie1297]

@@AAZEDLARC misery loved company

[@askadena10]

I surprised at the comments. Truman lived with these some in their world. He befriended them and had access into places he never would have been in. More than anything it was a betrayal of their friendship.

[@jerifrench9378]

So good to see Joanne Carson I love her what a wonderful authentic woman

[@robertbruno6959]

I personally don't get molly ringwald in the part. I would have picked another actress...

[@stephpyrzynski]

I agree! Jane Seymour looks a lot like Joanne actually, and closer in age too!

[@danc3693]

@@stephpyrzynskiNot closer in age for the time frame portrayed.

[@Colorbrush21]

I can't picture Molly Ringwald as Joanne either.

[@gsamaven]

If a person's first words when they meet you are "tell me all about yourself" I would monitor what comes out of my mouth

[@barb7528]

How could he be kind and gentle if he's trashing his friends?!

[@timhazeltine3256]

Capote was an occasionally brilliant writer but awful, bitter, and traitorous to people he said were his friends. And I don't consider J. Carson a terribly good judge of character given who she married.

[@watthaile2053]

Joanna seems quite sweet, but unrealistically loyal and naive.

[@doreendaykin6693]

Because he finally began to understand they were not truly his friends. He was merely entertainment to them. They used him.

[@watthaile2053]

@@doreendaykin6693so you think the swans used Truman.??? What a laugh. That's not even close to reality .... someone's either very naive or extremely biased.

[@espeon871]

@@timhazeltine3256same, joanna is so earnest and too earnest. He is a pos who only seeks to capitalise off of everything even to his detriment, joanne didnt have a lot to lose so she was kinder to him. He killed a woman. He is vile.

[@Mo-qe3yv]

Actions have consequences. I'm guessing that he never betrayed Joanna, like he did with his other "friends".

[@AAZEDLARC]

Nobody would have cared, Jo wasn't part of the society women he chose to court. It all had to with his Mom/abandonment issues, which are hard to escape :((

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

​@@AAZEDLARCit doesn't excuse him being a poisonous little toad to his friends

[@rachaelmorgan4025]

​@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 they were not friends. They used each other. He just played the game. Enter

[@pkihu9910]

She is a wonderful friend

[@JP-qr7sq]

Thank you. Great find!

[@lcg5790]

Such a lovely tribute.

[@evalramman7502]

Capote was a fine writer. However, in person? I think I agree with Gore Vidal's general assessment of him.

[@anabltc]

I'd say the same. Not to say that these "swans" were any better. It's one of those stories without any heroes, nobody to root for, nobody to empathise with

[@evalramman7502]

@@anabltc Very true.

[@stumack9755]

wat he say?

[@evalramman7502]

@@stumack9755 Vidal found Capote creepy - I think that word sums his feelings up.

[@markhutchison2240]

@@stumack9755 Upon Capote’s death, Vidal said “a wise career move”.

[@cheribee968]

Joanne is stunning She looks fantastic Love hearing her Truman stories

[@dorrielove]

Truman Capote was before my time but he sounds interesting even if he exposed his friend’s secrets. I remember my Mother telling me never tell anyone anything you don’t want repeated. I’ve never forgotten those Wise Words from my Mommy 😍

[@gaawn]

Thank you!He was the best❤❤❤❤

[@takaboom5830]

I thought he was a snake and those ladies helped him and accepted him, before his success.

[@grwoobie1297]

They loved the gossip until the gossip was about them. They should have known but everybody always thinks they are the exception UNTIL they aren't.

[@takaboom5830]

@@grwoobie1297 I was there in that era, and I have heard what Gore Vidal, Tennesse Williams, Andy Warhol, and James Baldwin has said about Truman, none of it nice. Each of those ladies were patrons of gays. Truman was a little hateful queen.

[@syourke3]

No, they only took up with Truman after he had become a hugely successful writer and a celebrity in his own right. They never helped him at all. They simply befriended him and took him into their high society circle, thinking he was clever and amusing, which he was.

[@Mary-kl4tk]

Doesn't matter he didn't have alcohol in his system when he died. He still died from alcoholism. Too bad he was a catty nasty person.

[@Mary-kl4tk]

Truman only used those "swans" to climb the social ladder. He was rotten to them. Joanne Carson was the only woman he didn't backstab so of course she thought he was a wonderful wise fun person.

[@mystyleisme88]

He wrote a book or article about all his friends, and then lost his friends because he told all their secrets, so I’m guessing he never wrote about her 😂🤔

[@packnetadaija]

Based on what I saw on feud he wrote about her too, but he didn’t say anything too horrible

[@jenniemontanafashion]

Maybe she was the most real.

[@mystyleisme88]

@@jenniemontanafashion that could have been it. This whole interview you can tell that speaks highly of him

[@mystyleisme88]

@@packnetadaija oh ok cause I do know I saw her character but she wasn't going off on him

[@jameslacey5474]

I thought I heard that he wrote about a T.V. late-night host who thought era-marital affairs got STDs, and was married to Joanne.

[@zeldasmith6154]

She's a dream of a friend. Why Carson divorced her is strange because she's so smart and beautiful.

[@LondonEE16]

He was unfaithful and a difficult man. I think she divorced him.

[@d.m.6397]

What a stunning, singular, classy woman.

[@kelloggs5473]

Breakfast at Tiffany’s is excellent. In Cold Blood is excellent. Everything else Capote wrote was mediocre at best, and a lot of it sucked because it was monotonous and superficial. I do not feel sorry for this man. During and after the 1975 publication in Esquire of his unprecedented cruel trash, New Yorkers and Angelenos started keeping their distance from Capote - not because they were homophobic, but because he had become repetitive and frequently dishonest. The chapter about Ann Woodward in particular was a waste of time and energy. Everything Capote wrote about the murder of her husband already had been published many years earlier. Capote offered nothing new. Soon after Esquire sold the trash, Gore Vidal started drawing the public’s attention to Capote’s tendency to lie. Vidal eventually sued him for libel. I reiterate that I do not feel sorry for this foolish man. He suffered because of what he did to himself.

[@Historian212]

I feel sorry that he had a rotten set of parents, but that's no excuse for doing what he did. Babe Paley was fighting cancer at the time, doing that to her was inhuman.

[@TheCosmicVagabond]

His abuse of alcohol destroyed him. That's what made him both mediocre and cruel. I've seen it often with the people in my life. Such a waste!!

[@FSD23384]

@@TheCosmicVagabond You are absolutely correct. In the end he was an unhappy, miserable man.

[@NancyMcIntyre-iq6og]

I really adored Truman Capote! He was an entity that can't be repeated!

[@juliaalexander5788]

Should have kept the notebook, ring though.

[@missingbitz9831]

It's insufferable to hear her gushing about the guy. My god, she had Capote on a 2-mile high pedestal.

[@JacindaH]

It's so refreshing to see someone come to his defense. Those other women treated him like their pet gay. He was an accessory and he knew it.

[@anabltc]

he enjoyed it tho 😄 it was all very transactional I guess

[@JacindaH]

@@anabltc if he enjoyed it I don't believe he would have released those stories. And he remained loyal to several of these women. The other's claimed to love him but never let him forget where he came from or what he was. And Joanne was proof of this

[@LondonEE16]

He was a social climber par excellence. They gave him social standing and access to luxury, and he gave them relevance as he actually achieved something as a writer.

[@doreendaykin6693]

👏👏👏👏👍Best comment of the lot! Well & truly said🙏💙

[@ninamc6116]

He was not a kind person to Babe Paley. She trusted him & he humiliated her. Great writer but he could be very mean

[@susanjoycesabo8450]

Ms. Carson seemed like a very kind, sweet person herself. I'm sure that she treated people very nicely and Truman appreciated that. However, other folks had the opposite experience with Capote. Capote could hurl barbs and insults like a champ.

[@marshasimpson261]

Capote stabbed his closest friends in the back! , He should not to be admired!

[@gtaylor6937]

I feel so much better having watched this, to know Truman was in loving hands and not miserable the way the Feud series portrays him. Yeah he drank a lot - what writer doesn't? I just hated thinking his end was as dark as reports have portrayed. Joanne Carson was his human guardian angel and it's clear that he needed one - all really sensitive people do. I think when all is said and done, what Capote did in writing his expose' on the New York elite was a public service. These miserable women with empty lives up until then were idolized by women all over the world, needlessly. I hope his honesty contributed to more women appreciating the lives they had.

[@Historian212]

What writer doesn't drink a lot? Many. That's an outdated stereotype that was never really a thing. As the character of Truman says on the show: most writers don't produce -- not well, anyway -- when they're drunk. Truth.

[@wabashcannonball]

Hahaaaa, that’s hilarious: “all writers drink.” Absolutely not true. It’s an old stereotype from the last century.

[@PangurBan-l1s]

You nailed it.

[@deniserusso4361]

She drank his koolaid. Petty little man.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

What a great woman- such kindness, truly a rough weather friend to Capote. When he got involved with that upper class set he sealed a Faustian pact. My theory is got tired of being their court jester and indeed needed to remember that he was a writer, and a superb one at that. Then came Answered Prayers. We know the rest.

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

She might feel differently if he had publically exposed her bad side of her marriage and Johnny.

[@MIKEY1970MIKE1970]

He actually did…he referred to Johnny’s philandering

[@zeldasmith6154]

The current actresses aren't skinny. The Swans ate very little and smoked constantly.

[@annettepora8091]

While Truman was lucky to have Joanne he did the unforgivable to the swans. Drugs and alcohol contributed to his lack of reasoning and judgement. With a friend like Capote no one needed other enemies.

[@jend1315]

Don't shoot the messenger. The swans did awful unforgivable things. he just wrote it all down.

[@Emptynestballerina1]

Joanne looks fab

[@LondonEE16]

She died in 2015. This is an old interview.

[@blakemordecai247]

So glad she and CZ stuck by him.

[@anabltc]

What's up with "he immortalised them" comments? It's not like he immortalised them for anything important or noble. It's just like a very saucy soap opera episode where villains pull out each other's hair - nobody to empathise with (except the one that fought cancer when it all happened). They all lead privileged lives, treated him like their pet gay, he enjoyed it, then exposed some intimate things about them, and even the literary result was not so good. Hardly an "immortalisation". But I like seeing all those actresses. At least something 🤷🏼‍♀

[@jend1315]

Love Joanne Carson! True beauty.

[@mirabellaolson6410]

Why didnt they put Joanne's charachter more prominently in the series?

[@jmallett6081]

This woman is putting Capote on a pedestal. He was capable of the best and the worst, just like any of us. Joanne Carson got best, other women received the worst. Is it a good thing when a man compares you to an animal? Even a beautiful one? One could believe that when Hitchcock compared Tippi to a horse in Marnie or some thoughtless guy who compares you to a female dog. Also I would like to mention that it is like breakfast at Tiffany's, jewelry is meant to be enjoyed. Even if Truman is not around, wouldn't he be pleased that every time you wear the ring he bought you that you have good memories of him? Better that than hiding it never to be seen again. Of course I have mocha diamonds, however they are not as huge as the one she was given. It looks like the stones around it are chrome diopside. I never liked jewelry that large, because my hands are small anyway and it would look overstated on me. I prefer petite things instead, especially if they have art in it, like carved flowers or something.

[@grwoobie1297]

She probably pawned or sold it

[@jeffpagan7735]

She's lovely

[@Shahrdad]

The irony of the whole things is that the only reason anyone even remembers who these swans were is because of Truman Capote.

[@DCGuy1997]

Ummm no. Babe Paley, CZ Guest, Lee Radziwill (Jackie Kennedy's sister), and Slim Keith were famous in their own right before Capote came long for a variety of reasons. They were New York society. Truman was not. The insufferable little man used them to gain access to the upper echelons of New York society.

[@Historian212]

You remember who they were if you were alive at the time (I grew up in that era). After that, who cares about being remembered, except by family and friends?

[@Shahrdad]

I remember them too, but today they would all be forgotten. He immortalized them.

[@DCGuy1997]

@@Shahrdad No. Babe Paley and especially Lee Radziwill are/were famous in their own right. They didn't need Capote. The little man needed them to gain access into NYC society.

[@Shahrdad]

@@DCGuy1997 Lee was famous only because she was second fiddle to her sister. Babe was famous in her own day, but would’ve been forgotten except for Capote. There would be no miniseries about them today if they hadn’t been Capote’s swans.

[@michelletodd4893]

The last episode with James Baldwin was fantastic. Of course they say this "day" didn't happen. But if you watch when he really talks about how horrible these women really were in their private life. And yet kept him at the end of the table.

[@danc3693]

Feud is entertaining but I take these “true” stories with a grain of salt as this isn’t a documentary. Even a documentary offers its own take on reality.

[@colleendionne2845]

What a lovely woman Joanne was.

[@DorothyChartrand-g6x]

He was a complete phony. I can't believe anyone praised his abilities to pen any American classic. What he'd a French film just a week ago that completely parallels BAT. He was just a homely ol queen that got lucky having one friend with actual talent introduce him to the people

[@annadevito3742]

Question is was she his friend since she wasnt part of the story he wrote about the Swans?

[@ilovebeinagirl]

You can tell she was a true friend. At least he had one.

[@patriciagutman7265]

I would loooveeee to buy some of this pieces😊

[@courtney3194]

Ok, except, Truman never considered Joanne a “swan…”

[@deneenogbeide5087]

A good friend is worth its weight in gold.

[@kph2858]

Oh yeah , he’s a great friend 🤦‍♀️

[@anabltc]

😂

[@TallGrass44]

She outlived them all!!

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

I’m in California. Like any state, there are things I agree with and those I don’t. Crime is up, homelessness up, housing up. On the other hand I liked how he handled Covid, wasn’t intimidated by Trump but knew how to play him, kept women’s rights secure.

[@bear4ubear4u68]

Seems like you are lost with your comments.

[@sharonmccoin5262]

Wow! Immortalise a snake that betrayed the very people that loved him. He makes me sick to watch him.

[@KatharinaK117]

Amen! But they didn't love him, lol ..

[@ann5765]

I like Truman Capotes books but not him as a person.

[@laminbee8053]

I love this show

[@Iyklyk]

Capote foresaw the evolution of social media, envisioning himself as a drama channel akin to Perez Hilton rather than merely publishing drama. However, his revelation also exposed the darker side of wealth, revealing that even the affluent can harbor depression and moral depravity. "Answered prayers" indeed, yet tinged with self-importance and gossip.

[@simonlh2546]

brown diamond?? they are considered industrial purpose ... very common?

[@surfergirl2943]

Truman was TERRIBLE to her 😢 I am sad she thought he was a “good friend”

[@kathym.248]

It sounds more like a trauma bond, that friendship, if they were both abandoned.

[@surfergirl2943]

@@kathym.248 you know- it’s interesting that you say that because the more I have dove into the story of these people in particular, the more I see for what it is, and I could not agree more with you ! Trauma bonding is very, very real. I definitely think that could be a huge part of the connection. That being said, it still made me very sad for her when I heard all of the things he did to her specifically . He is nobody I would ever ever wanted as a friend ! With friends like that, who needs any enemies? Also, the fact that she stuck by him, until the very very end says much more about her than it does about him!

[@rachaelmorgan4025]

​@@surfergirl2943like everything else I am sure there is much much more to Truman and Joanne friendship then we know about

[@surfergirl2943]

@@rachaelmorgan4025 for sure. I still think the act of publishing the most deep dark events of his friends was pretty terrible thing. But yes we don’t know all that went down , that’s true.

[@ellielynne9560]

Mayb deep down inside he never liked those swans that he wrote bad about if he never wrote about this true friend

[@jeanetteschock4744]

Can't stand Truman capote voice

[@BryhenBea]

What a beautiful remembrance (unlike all the vapid catty nonsense).

[@artandcrafttherapy]

He was flaming 🔥🔥

[@goldfinch102]

My father met him a signed book to him

[@LAFITZ10]

Truman Capote was SO ENVIOUS of Jacqueline Susann - the REAL writer lol

[@virginiagorski1932]

Is this really Judge Judy doing this commercial? Or is it AI?

[@jeffreyjohnson8]

It takes a true queen to bring down wanna be queens. It takes The Queen to be a friend to see you to your end.

[@poetcomic1]

Joanna was his lifeboat at the end.

[@retha1875]

Joanne looks REALLY good. She is 83 years old.

[@LondonEE16]

Nope. She died in 2015. This is an old piece of film. ET Archive.

[@BeeDeBiase]

We love animals and treat them well because we feel like unwanted animals because we were not wanted.🤷🏻

[@kevinwhelan9607]

Er...yes. Thank God her experience with him was a good one.

[@cherylmcguire2972]

Joanne Carson was not a swan

[@deborahkizer4664]

🤗

[@lmcdonald1879]

creepy

[@rubycrystaldust7007]

Gawd casting Molly as Joannne was not a good choice. Joanne was stunning! The most stunning of all those bishes. Also she wasn’t a bish!! Molly is not stunning at all and about 1O sizes larger than Joanne. She was petite.

[@AngelinaX23]

99.99% trash

[@kelsilulu]

The original messy queen 😂

[@muiresuilgorm3452]

What a crock.

[@davidwright873]

Man worship. Unbelievable

[@R.POliver]

The one truly great thing he did was expose WHO controls the publishing industry.

[@KatharinaK117]

👍🏼

[@jerifrench9378]

If Joanne sees this I always grieved for your Yorkie muffin I don't know if she was ever located but then you got your little black Shih Tzu Suki God bless you beautiful lady

[@wdbreezy]

Joanne passed in 2015 at 83 years old.

[@jerifrench9378]

That's irrelevance wonderful woman God bless her she moved from New York in the 70s I moved from New York in the seventies both to California and I watched her show I reiterate wonderful woman

[@wdbreezy]

@@jerifrench9378 You said you hoped she’d see your post. I was just letting you know she’d passed. 😌

[@jerifrench9378]

I still do but thank you for the info