FFXIV Adhoc Samurai Advanced Guide (Dawntrail Patch 7.01)

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@unixtreme Ай бұрын

I didn't realize I was playing ad hoc all along when doing TEA, it just made more sense to me than learning a rigid rotation.

@MiaCulpa24 2 ай бұрын

Whats really funny about this, is despite some changes we've gotten since.. this is how i played Stormblood Samurai lol I already figured that Meiyko was better used on Gekko and Kasha, and just tried my best to use it on those, and manual do Yukikaze. I think part of my falling out on SAM was the "filler" playstyle, but seeing this takes me back home.

@CmonstahxD 2 ай бұрын

been playing sam for many moons now and ive heard the terminology around but never knew what adhoc actually was, good looks bro

@johnjornlin1518 2 ай бұрын

Nice, thanks for including all the resources. Been meaning to try more ad hoc and this is a great place to start

@freddy8toes 2 ай бұрын

Another solid guide, keep em coming

@BombDoggy 2 ай бұрын

Every time i watched samurai guides, I always felt like I didn't jive with it. Now, this drops, and I am curious.... and this is just what I have been doing 😂

@remowilliams8421 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful lol! I got to get to practicing again This is insane! Please find one for Ninja samurai Ninja has always been my favorite job classes in the final Fantasy universe.

@Craytonex 2 ай бұрын

When you thought you've already mastered the blade there's always more..... Nvm I was already doing this lmao

@cali4806 2 ай бұрын

Well, this is easier as compared to the new stuff. Good thing i still remember stormblood daya

@tungmath 2 ай бұрын

I noticed that in your dummy fflog, the 6 minute Higanbana gets used at 6:12.177 and 7 minute Higanbana gets used at 7:07.929. Does that mean we are losing 1 (pot + buff) tick? Is it better to use Gekko/Kasha for the 7 minute Higanbana (so you get to delay 1 gcd)?

@FahrosXIV 2 ай бұрын

Looks the same in the Noblesse Oblige XIV analysis timeline: xivanalysis.com/fflogs/CjhBQcbHfNkdKgGz/1/1 Good eye! But to be honest, I think these kind of nuanced questions depend entirely on killtime. Unfortunately I think there's no concrete example here, on what's "best". Because imagine the situation where you happened to kill exactly on a midare GCD. Regarding the damage on your log, you'd be extremely thankful that you had pushed yourself a GCD ahead in your rotation to where you were able to finish that midare, where as if you went for the Gekko bana, you'd be a GCD behind. But if you happened to kill 1 GCD after a midare, then you could have afforded to push that DoT application towards getting an extra juiced DoT tick. I think it's probably safest to apply the principle of using manually built Yukikaze sen to apply Higanbana as much as possible, if you aren't in a static group and if you aren't aware of your killtime in advance. But these are the sort of things that can be tweaked towards maximizing damage for the perfect kill/fflog if you're aware of your killtime and especially with the adhoc rotation I think. And don't get it twisted, I don't claim to have all this mastered yet. I feel I've gotten good at it, but I'm ultimately still learning it with all of you. So maybe we can share logs and strategies on each fight to try and find the Samurai damage ceiling together!

@Amnesia0000 2 ай бұрын

Are you still align with raid buffs with ad hoc ? It sounds like we drift all ours gcds right ?

@wakkablitz 2 ай бұрын

LETS GOOOOO

@goropanckechi3028 2 ай бұрын

these names getting wild ! when's wifi samurai guide using only enpis ? 😂

@simusar 2 ай бұрын

Personally I can't wait for IPv6 Samurai

@BlueEyesWhiteViera 2 ай бұрын

Honestly, I didn't even know that SAM had a standard loop, I thought it was intuitive enough to be played flexible like this to begin with.

@Schmoschify 2 ай бұрын

I think it is the intended design with the sticker system stalling ur dot etc is very intuitive even tho sometimes the refresh on the dot is iffy this style is more much more fun and engaging imo

@Kounteron 2 ай бұрын

doen't everyone get chosen for the throw mechanic?

@DrZlow 2 ай бұрын

Adhoc rotation is essentially an attempt to turn samurai into monk...

@thedarkness8806 2 ай бұрын

Would be awesome to find out who the first Samurai to perfect Adhoc was. Could call it "The (player's name) Style" instead.

@Kounteron 2 ай бұрын

ad hoc sounds cool. The syllables are powerful, it's latin. It conveys a sense of targeted mastery. lmaolol

@thalyanna3269 2 ай бұрын

The 10:30 min fflogs you provided for your comparison of the adhoc vs looping rotation are erroneous, you used 2 pots on adhoc and only 1 on the loop.

@FahrosXIV 2 ай бұрын

That's honestly so dumb, I don't know why that happened. That's definitely an error! Sorry about that. So when introducing the logs in the video I should not have called their DPS into question for comparison. I'm glad I didn't end up showing their respective DPS's now, hah! But to be fair, the primary purpose of showing these logs was not to show an actual DPS value comparison. The real point of them being shown was to show how the rotation will be ahead extra midare/shoha casts by cutting out filler and using manually built Yukikaze Higanbanas and accelerated Meikyos. It was just extra information to support/echo the XIVanalysis and 7.0 guide. I apologize for any confusion and for miss speaking briefly on the topic in the video, and I will edit the description. Hopefully viewers can read the edit and/or this comment, and still benefit from the principles/logic presented in this video, which are accurate.

@tonycalryastreams2176 2 ай бұрын

what is that Armor set? 😮

@FahrosXIV 2 ай бұрын

Deltascape Savage (Dyed Deepwood Green Body/Hands/Feet), Legs are PvP Legs of the Rising Dragon, and head is Marid Hood of Striking 💪

@torusorus7803 2 ай бұрын

Great guide, but it is unfortunate that the 7.05 changes will mess up most rotations

@johangama8505 2 ай бұрын

i dont get it :( is it possible a video jsut with the rotation ?

@lunaeriss 2 ай бұрын

The thing about adhoc is the rotation will be different depending on the fight. If you want a more straightforward rotation, Fahros has a samurai guide he posted last week that should be helpful. 😊

@FahrosXIV 2 ай бұрын

If it could be helpful, I do have a recording of the 10m30s FFLog of me hitting the training dummy. I could upload that for you too, but like Lunaeriss says, the thing about this rotation is that it changes based on the fight/uptime/killtime as well. It's not a structured loop like the standard opener and rotation. If you'd prefer a more structured style, that is pretty much just as good, check out this video:kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXWyf3WCh5tqqJI Other than that, what parts don't you get? Maybe I can help!

@azlith8915 2 ай бұрын

After looking through the linked rotation from noblesse Its pretty clear that this is a purely selfish rotation. You are putting a ton of gyofu and yukikaze inside of buffs and even missing some hardest hitting attacks in buffs. If your goal is just to parse then thats fine I suppose but you may find it difficult to find other players who want to parse that will play with you if you're not going to feed their buffs.

@FahrosXIV 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm, I think there is some misunderstanding here. Check the XIV analysis timeline again, and make sure to ctrl+scrollwheel so you can space things out enough to see the second each ability is going out. There are not any major attacks that fall out of raid buff windows. And there are actually very few Gyofu in the even burst timings, and in fact none after the 6:02 during the 2nd pot window. There's no Gyofu from 4:01 to 4:24 either. This rotation is not purely selfish as you claimed, it provides top tier aDPS just as it provides top tier rDPS. Any player should be happy to play with a Samurai utilizing this rotation, even jobs like Ninja or Dragoon that want their teammates to coordinate heavily with their burst intervals. Edit: Also don't forget that Adhoc actually saves up meikyos so it can double meikyo during it's 4m and 6m burst intervals, where the standard loop rotation would only use one meikyo. I think for this reason adhoc burst intervals can actually be a bit stronger, since they don't have to use meikyos during every odd minute burst to maintain their loop alignment.