FFXIV Endwalker Job Tier List

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My tier list for jobs for Endwalker now we see how they're performing in savage raids and extreme trials!
0:00 Intro
0:43 Dps Breakdown
3:00 Popularity Breakdown
4:32 Tier List
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@LashNSmash
@LashNSmash 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember, all jobs can clear all content, and playing a class you are comfortable with and enjoy will always be more dps than a job you aren't comfortable with and don't enjoy
@rainbowratty
@rainbowratty 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Xenos, hope you're having a good day.
@armaniesingletary8979
@armaniesingletary8979 2 жыл бұрын
Dragoon 4:54 Ninja 5:01 Samurai 5:22 Reaper 5:43 Monk 5:50 Bard 6:14 Machinist 6:23 Dancer 6:28 Black Mage 6:45 Summoner 7:08 Red Mage 7:20 Paladin 7:57 Blue Mage 8:28 Warrior 8:38 Dark Knight 8:46 Gunbreaker 8:54 Healers 9:10 Best Tank 9:20 Best Melee Dps 9:45 Best Ranged Dps 10:05 Best Caster Dps 10:23 Best Healer 10:52
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 2 жыл бұрын
Gun breakers have a 900 potency self heal when under half (or 20 seconds prepared ahead), and 200 potency 18s hot that gets 2 stacks. It's much improved in that sense from Shadowbringer
@rodneythundercock
@rodneythundercock 2 жыл бұрын
I've saved a whole fight as RDM before. Full party, 8 members, everyone but me and a dragoon died. He came on clutch holding the boss while I rezzed every single person in the party. It was stressful, but I got like all the coms at the end, and we beat the boss. I can't rightly remember what it was we were doing. I think it was a raid, but I can't be sure it was so long ago
@levee1133
@levee1133 2 жыл бұрын
RDM is goated
@blackzombie7936
@blackzombie7936 2 жыл бұрын
Nubkeks, now that you seen fresh progression on a fresh expansion, was curious what your take is the on item level (gear) progression system FF14 uses.
@thegamingsidedk9699
@thegamingsidedk9699 2 жыл бұрын
1 minute after upload?? Damn! Love your content
@theAphelionDT
@theAphelionDT 2 жыл бұрын
obviously in 6.05 the best jobs are armorsmith, blacksmith and weaver lol great list otherwise
@nubkeks
@nubkeks 2 жыл бұрын
Why kill bosses when you can get rich crafting!
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 2 жыл бұрын
Nah Leatherworking is where It's at... 4 parts of the happiness set. 🤭
@joaoteixeira8349
@joaoteixeira8349 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnuscarlsson9969 but it's missing the most important part. Otherwise you're absolutley correct. @ Definitely Terrible Gaming they also have the hardest and most punishing rotations in the game
@crowserainance
@crowserainance 2 жыл бұрын
astro has a great mp management kit. i barely get to half of my mp and keep my party topped off
@mementomori1868
@mementomori1868 2 жыл бұрын
Nice list!!
@andyc4777
@andyc4777 2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong my fellow ninja’s!
@lorens1496
@lorens1496 2 жыл бұрын
:(
@Verd254
@Verd254 2 жыл бұрын
I still out parse most people in PF, so it's all gravy to me. No way is Ninja the only C tier job with Dancer existing in its current form. That along kinda makes a joke of this whole tier list. At the end of the day Dancer is the only job that truly handicaps good players.
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
@@Verd254 good thing is that all jobs are viable as long as you like playing as them and parse well so tier lists are just to give new players or experiences players who want meta and just a nudge towards that direction
@jg2096
@jg2096 2 жыл бұрын
DRK in the A tier is a surprise. I like DRK for sure it's my fav class but it feels bad defensively.
@Neo-ju9vo
@Neo-ju9vo 2 жыл бұрын
But his DMG is really good...better than GNB i would say
@gadsanchez4929
@gadsanchez4929 2 жыл бұрын
FF14 the only game a tank is better if more dps
@DivineSora01
@DivineSora01 2 жыл бұрын
@@gadsanchez4929 Pretty much every game, I think. It's not that defense is less valuable, but basically all tanks have enough utility and survivability for end game content if you play them and equip them well. If you maintain this assumption, at that point, the primary meaningful difference between them is how much damage they do. This is valued a lot by people, because it means faster runs.
@jonathanmarsh8119
@jonathanmarsh8119 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played Endwalker, but watched a couple vids. For SMN wouldn't it be better to have three crystals to summon any of the Egis? Like you can summon Ifrit three times for maxing single target damage. Have Titan for AOE but have it give shields to the X number of party members in range (or lowest HP). Then Garuda for AOE with high potency, or lower potency but have it heal X party members in range (or lowest HP). Just thinking that it must feel kinda bad to be forced to pop Titan and Garuda on a single target. What do the SMN players feel about the current rotation? What could push it to S-Rank besides more potency.
@MichealConnacht
@MichealConnacht 2 жыл бұрын
SMN's have both a single target and AoE for all their summons. Our current rotation works great our overall potency just needs a little boost and something needs to be done with Physick.
@Bobrob1597
@Bobrob1597 2 жыл бұрын
The PLD is being made to be a solid OT which is fine, but as I've been saying for years now and will keep saying it, give the PLD back their rez. They are the utility tank but lack the last bit of utiltity a rez.
@joaoteixeira8349
@joaoteixeira8349 2 жыл бұрын
This is actualy a very good idea. Not only is it in character, but it could help give paladin its own niche and even compensate for the lower dps
@pynekxd4867
@pynekxd4867 2 жыл бұрын
It would be broken as hell
@joaoteixeira8349
@joaoteixeira8349 2 жыл бұрын
@@pynekxd4867 How?? Paladins don't have access to swifcast or spell speed, so they'd have to stand still for nearly 10 seconds. How is that broken?
@pynekxd4867
@pynekxd4867 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaoteixeira8349 Because he is still TANKY a hell, so he can just ignore most of the mechsnics and hardcast raise before the party wipe.. Also the fact that he couod just pop invul and then start rezing is ridiculous
@never5930
@never5930 2 жыл бұрын
@@pynekxd4867 reading this really made me want that pld rez!
@therelax4166
@therelax4166 2 жыл бұрын
PLD is the only tank cant break p4s striking dummy with ilvl580 (most of them werent cardfted), when i broke it with all tanks, speaking as someone got rank 37 in 5.4 as pld
@SxPlant
@SxPlant 2 жыл бұрын
Week 2 or 3 are better to make a real tier list. Here my opinion : BLM is still on top in caster, the reason RDM is so popular week 1 is for prog only with the instant raise they have. SMN going to get potency buff imo. BRD is top range right now with good dps and giving party buff compare to mch dps. DNC is DNC, not the best but every dps love to be partner. MNK is better than RPR but RPR is easier. Both prob gonna have a small potency nerf or SAM going to have a small tweek/buff to catch up to them. DRG seems to be in a good place rn. NIN tweek was good but there's a good chance to receive a small potency buff. DRK is prob the best sub tank and war/pld are good main tank. GNB pretty much in between. I dont know much of healer but they seems pretty balance in utility. May need a slight dmg buff on some but i dont know them enough.. i hear whm have MP problem but it might be player issue too.. cant say.
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 2 жыл бұрын
I think most mana issues will iron out once people get the Savage gear, thing is that neither tomestones or Pandaemonium normal gear are properly optimized so you end up below a comfortable PIE level(I think i lay at around 990 when Id pref to be around 1024 for 100% GCD use as SCH)... especially for WHM due to their cast speed buff and no real MP recoveries outside of Lucid Dream(+500 mp each 45 s. from Assize). WHM requires more PIE then is resonable on most 580 gear, however the 590/600 set comes with a better stat line up as far as Mp is considered. Most healers atm. ain't comfortable melding PIE, given how relatively weak most heals are we need the determination and crit to increase our output. Heal potencies however scale really well with MND, so most issues we have today will be solved naturally I believe.
@cretethemoonman
@cretethemoonman 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I accidentally chose a really solid dps as my first (and currently only!) job. i picked monk because beating up monsters with my own two fists sounded fun, and I'm a weeb so the whole chakra thing seemed interesting. Now that they did a rework of the class and make chakra available earlier/streamlined a lot of their rotations (by removing the positional requirements and overall buffing the base damage), it's so much more fun to play, and it seems they shot up pretty far in terms of the dps and utility they bring to the table
@TGFOchi
@TGFOchi 2 жыл бұрын
thoughts on the ninja in terms of trick attack boosting raid damage? i just noticed you said no raiding utility.
@nubkeks
@nubkeks 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I should've been more clear in the video! By utility I mean bringing extras like Reaper healing the raid with Arcane Crest or Red Mage's bringing Verraise. DPS boosts like Trick Attack are already factored into the rDPS comparison :)
@lsmith604
@lsmith604 2 жыл бұрын
@@nubkeks then why is dancer, despite being so low, above it?
@MrBoston1630
@MrBoston1630 2 жыл бұрын
@@lsmith604 because dancer brings utility. And you cant compare ninja to dancer. Dancer is a physical ranged. Ninja is competing with reaper and monk. Its down right griefing to join as a ninja atm
@Verd254
@Verd254 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBoston1630 I can confirm with 100% certainty that you don't know what you're talking about. The gap between Bard and Dancer is way bigger than the gap between Reaper/Monk and Ninja. To say joining as a Ninja is 'griefing' either speaks to bad players you've played with or you're simply making stuff up. All this to say that even a good Dancer can still clear Savage. There is no job so undertuned they can't clear Savage right now.
@Kfo221
@Kfo221 2 жыл бұрын
GNB and DRK better than WAR?? whaa
@vanralf1690
@vanralf1690 2 жыл бұрын
hey nub can you do a video on the ffxiv pvp scene? No one is talking about it and they're making big changes to it
@Amelia-zv3jp
@Amelia-zv3jp 2 жыл бұрын
these tier lists are always very typically the same and by that its usually "well dancer doesnt do damage and reaper does a shit ton" like of course because they gave reaper a shit ton of potency with no restrictions and refuse to let dancers actually have good damage bc their utility is good.. meanwhile red mage rezs.. i swear square picks and chooses what they want to be broken *cough* warrior mains
@ChaseTheChamp11
@ChaseTheChamp11 2 жыл бұрын
Scholar ahead of Sage? What are you on and how do I get some?
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
raid speed buff
@evansidley5081
@evansidley5081 2 жыл бұрын
Not a word said about why Sage sits where it does, or about Sage in general. Haha. Not that I play heals just been curious about that particular job lately and how it performs.
@lsmith604
@lsmith604 2 жыл бұрын
How tf are you going to put ninja in C by itself, when dancer is so low even on the rdps scale. Ninja personal dps isn’t the best but it definitely isn’t the worst.
@tylerkarnes2947
@tylerkarnes2947 2 жыл бұрын
Rating tanks based on damage is an omegalul in my book.
@masterzblaze4951
@masterzblaze4951 2 жыл бұрын
wow rly s tier gunbreaker xeno is gonna love that lol
@robikkupegasus7039
@robikkupegasus7039 2 жыл бұрын
Red Mages just can't be stopped, lol
@Alienzexist
@Alienzexist 2 жыл бұрын
How does MCH rank higher than NIN?
@deltawolf
@deltawolf 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your list except war is s rank imo, gnb A and pld and drk B. *cries in pld tank main*
@spencerb6221
@spencerb6221 2 жыл бұрын
So this tier list only takes into account the damage output for classes? Kind of disappointing more was taken into consideration especially on the tanks.
@nubkeks
@nubkeks 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fair criticism. I wanted to keep the explanations relatively short and simple but it means that I have to skim over a lot. For savage content early clears (i.e. where we're at right now) I think dps contribution is often the most important thing jobs bring as dps checks are very tough! Hence paladin getting a lower score for example as it's a big differential
@N.biebie8428
@N.biebie8428 2 жыл бұрын
That's the whole point isn't it? doing damage, kill the boss before endrage.......
@spencerb6221
@spencerb6221 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the response. While I understand why DPS is a major factor for savage raiding and for, specifically, this tier list, those pots are easily tweaked by SE and DRK isn’t in a great place gameplay-wise. In raiding it feels the same as ShB - that’s the best thing that can be said about it. I don’t mind the video and would have appreciated it more if it was titled “… based on DPS on fflogs” - it’s not catchy but the vagueness currently insinuates more about the job: fun, depth, theme/lore adherence.
@ByRekon
@ByRekon 2 жыл бұрын
@@spencerb6221 it feels amazing when you are doing 15k opener on drk you can do all savage with every class stop complaining about self healing
@spencerb6221
@spencerb6221 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome to your opinion and so am I. In raids it’s just 5.x DRK with higher potencies. In dungeons it’s pure crap. Either way I’m glad that does it for you and you expansion desires are no more than higher pots when other tanks had their gameplay loop added to
@simz3192
@simz3192 2 жыл бұрын
Black mage is an undisputed A tier job, but I agree with the rest.
@MainUkraine
@MainUkraine 2 жыл бұрын
This tier list is close but currently monk is actually beating out reaper and dancer is way lower than both bard and even machinist, dancer belongs in C with Ninja. Also paladin should be C as well, too low dps compared to other tanks similar to dancer.
@Pabruzzese99
@Pabruzzese99 2 жыл бұрын
I'd take a look at thos playing reaper and dancer in those cases; might need to find people that hit rotations correctly. I haven't seen a monk out dps a reaper without dance partner in an actual raid.
@Esteb86
@Esteb86 2 жыл бұрын
The only time tank dps matters is in hard-core prog, which is a small percentage of the player base. Paladin brings good utility, and has 8 ranged GCDs when there's downtime. No way is paladin a C for having only 4ish% less dmg. This is one of the problems with how ff14 has designed tanking. They made the actual tanking part so easy, that's dps is what separates the 4 jobs now in a lot of people's eyes. If older WoW didn't anything good, it was the way tanking worked. No one cared about tank dps, because the tanks job was to hold threat (the whole premise of a tank), which could still be ripped off by a good dps popping all cooldowns, if the tank didn't know how to manage it. In 14 a tanks true job is so mind-numbingly easy, that dps is the only thing that can matter now.
@25MrAssassin
@25MrAssassin 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja's opening got changed after there changes with one of there main mechanics of how to utilize there forked and fleeting raiju plus the changes of bunshin towards there phantom. This seems too early to really do a tier list I say give it a month before you rate on peoples clears that are still VERY low
@nubkeks
@nubkeks 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this list is reflecting those ninja changes in 6.05. The meta will change as people get more gear and learn fights etc but I think this list reflects stuff well as it stands right now :) and of course everything can change with the next tier of fights and balancing!
@minyaw1234
@minyaw1234 2 жыл бұрын
Best grp so far I would say is GNB DRK - RPR MNK RDM BRD - SCH AST. Buffs are needed for Ninja, Dancer, Machinist and Paladin, also arguably SMN needs something to distinguish itself because at the moment there is no reason not to prefer a RDM. Either another utility or better potency.
@badassbirkin4907
@badassbirkin4907 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Phoenix buff is nice but holy crap I feel like something is missing.
@darklorty
@darklorty 2 жыл бұрын
You looked at the statistics but didn't really work out why some numbers might be what they are, and then ranked the jobs on those numbers. Not a good video unfortunately.
@hydrosting
@hydrosting 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a new player so Your explanations helped me out quite a bit with understanding stuff.
@drekor884
@drekor884 2 жыл бұрын
Think it's too earlier in savage to be including anything from there. This is especially true with the BLM vs RDM popularity which undoubtedly will swap as people get comfortable with the fights and those BLM numbers will rise a fair bit. Similar will likely happen with samurai as they are a bit more demanding on their rotation. I also wouldn't have dancer in B, they are a low C almost D tier atm. Their group utility is largely just more damage for the group and as you can see in logs even accounting for that they are significantly behind. I'd also say that the choice for tank might be correct for savage for the other 99% of the game it's not even comparable to warriors supremacy. Which is also why you see them being the #1 choice outside the final boss because basically the vast majority of the communities tanks are warriors unless force to switch, like on the last boss and honestly I think that's just a damage thing(and literally the only reason DRK has any players in the top end).
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 2 жыл бұрын
Well i dunno, BLM just feel lacking these days... the strongest rotation they got are extremely mobile(for a BLM, especially combined with so much clearcasting) but It's not interactive at all to play, not even for the smal dps gain and in dungeons their AoE rotation is really dull to say the least. SAM is also just a boring MNK or RPR atm. that have no other support to bring. I think the selfish DPS classes are underperforming(aswell as DNC)... SAM and BLM could use a slight buff and DNC either need to get a 2nd raid buff(or buff their partner more) and some more DPS to not be entierly outclassed by BRD. Thing is the buffs will be more powerfull as the expansion progress and if buff classes keep up to or even outperform the selfish dps:ers they will eventually start fall behind.
@garettgarner
@garettgarner 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnuscarlsson9969 Didn't realise a Sam or Blm makes you selfish
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 2 жыл бұрын
@@garettgarner MCH, BLM and SAM are usually considered "selfish-dps" since they don't really bring any rDPS to the raid. They are present in a group because of their DPS in a similar fashion as someone would play a carry in a MOBA. The raid/group are there to make sure these classes can perform at 110%. If you bring a BLM and don't try to facilitate it with favorable conditions you do things wrong aka. a DNC usually choose a SAM as dancepartner, the BLM/MCH get the ranged +dmg buff AST cards etc.
@garettgarner
@garettgarner 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnuscarlsson9969 Doesn't matter that much dude unless you are trying to break a world record.
@sonder006
@sonder006 2 жыл бұрын
@@garettgarner they are literally selfish dps by definition. Sam, blm, and mch bring no raid utility, only their damage.
@gfrancescolt
@gfrancescolt 2 жыл бұрын
Scholar FTW!
@patrickkershaw4885
@patrickkershaw4885 2 жыл бұрын
You lost me at Gunbreaker S.
@TheSometimeAfter
@TheSometimeAfter 2 жыл бұрын
Why
@johnway8819
@johnway8819 2 жыл бұрын
He's right though?
@kynikostashasch2218
@kynikostashasch2218 2 жыл бұрын
gunbreaker has tons of self healing now. Wars are stupid powerful now, easy S tier.
@Tsuna_SoulSilver
@Tsuna_SoulSilver 2 жыл бұрын
It's like everything I choose just became B tier. Good thing I just play casual now.
@rhyme7358
@rhyme7358 2 жыл бұрын
It's all personal preference, but this seems like a decent list to me. I honestly think I would put DNC in C tier with NIN, they're just so weak with no real benefit over MCH. PLD lags significantly behind the other tanks, but they do have a ranged uptime phase and hallowed ground. Personally, I'd put them in C, just because their damage is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the other tanks. Unlike most other comments (as of now), I agree with you in that GNB is the best tank -- they're comfy, they're strong, they're tanky. They are often outdone in damage by DRK, but DRK is not at all comfy and they feel way more squishy than GNB too.
@iamdumbsometimes3916
@iamdumbsometimes3916 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree about DNC, I feel they should be one step below MCH as they are now. Supposedly they're in line to get some buffs to their personal damage in 6.08, but right now they're the worst physical ranged of the three. That said, I do think they have the easiest gauge management of the three classes, and Curing Waltz and Improvisation do give them some more defensive utility than the other two classes. Some potency buffs should be enough to pull them out of C tier, but sadly we'll have to wait for the next patch to see how large these changes are.
@Pabruzzese99
@Pabruzzese99 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamdumbsometimes3916 This is a job tier list, not a dps list exclusively. MCH brings literally nothing outside of 10% group dmg mitigation to the table on a savage raid. It's cool down is 90 seconds. Dancer on the other hand has a multitude of utilities, dmg buffs, mitigation & group heals. So as far as job tier placement.. this is spot on.
@Moonwalker130
@Moonwalker130 2 жыл бұрын
a min of silence for nin mains
@RetVersus
@RetVersus 2 жыл бұрын
"Gunbreaker lacking self healing" - what are you on about? Aurora is always ticking, its not massive but with a few brutal shells theres some sustain. But the really egregious thing is ignoring heart of corundums healing.
@Overdoseplus
@Overdoseplus 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah DRK gets almost zero. Especially single target.
@kiriksul5500
@kiriksul5500 2 жыл бұрын
Gunbreaker has lower hps than dark knight lol
@RetVersus
@RetVersus 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiriksul5500 in video 9:03 "Gunbreaker lacking in any self-healing". Me: Gunbreaker has self-healing. You: Dark Knight is better lol. OK buddy :)
@kiriksul5500
@kiriksul5500 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetVersus I was replying to the other guy lol most sane gunbreaker player
@RetVersus
@RetVersus 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiriksul5500 oh fair enough didn't see that plonker. Got distracted pressing continuation
@levee1133
@levee1133 2 жыл бұрын
Am I crazy for thinking a good RDM can put out more damage than a BLM.?
@scotch1148
@scotch1148 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. RDM's have good utility, that's the only reason they're so popular right now, Verraise is great for learning fights. But once everyone is used to the raids, I think it's popularity will drop significantly. BLM's raw damage is unmatched by any caster/ranged. One of the main reasons it was ranked so low is because they're sometimes forced to move due to mechanics which decreases their damage, usually though, a good BLM will still out-damage the other casters and ranged. It all depends on how much you value damage over utility. RDM also has good recovery, but arguably you shouldn't need to use RDM's recovery in a fight if you do well enough. Which is why I personally think it's unfair to give BLM a lower ranking due to focusing on DPS. RDM's good recovery can't save a raid if you fail a DPS check.
@csguak
@csguak 2 жыл бұрын
FF14 community will be very indifferent or sometimes oppose these lists, I hope you are ready for the incoming comments lol This is not a bad list l, but not a good one either. I thank you for the entertaining content regardless.
@TheSometimeAfter
@TheSometimeAfter 2 жыл бұрын
I was pretty indifferent to this comment but I'm sure you were ready for that. It wasn't a bad comment, but it wasn't all that great either. Thanks for posting though.
@csguak
@csguak 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSometimeAfter No. I wasn't ready for this comment at all. 🤣😂🤣😂
@Raionhardt
@Raionhardt 2 жыл бұрын
Pooling in Samurai with DRG is pretty wrong imo. DRG is still reliant on the rest of the party's performance without providing any prog benefits like Mantra or Arcane Crest. Samurai can pump similar rDPS as reaper and mnk by just having higher personal dps. Its mainly just that they dont have anything to help with prog.
@nickt3176
@nickt3176 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the tank damage is all close enough that I don’t think it is really the distinguishing factor in ranking them. In terms of being able to survive and mitigate damage which of course is the tanks primary purpose, I would say that WAR, PLD, and GNB are all neck and neck, maybe with a slight edge to WAR, and DRK would be bring up the rear by a little bit. They all get the job done though
@laranjo5999
@laranjo5999 2 жыл бұрын
What? Paladin is severely behind both GNB and WAR, which are considerably behind DRK. Tank damage is absolutely broken right now, which is why you see so many DRK tanks on the top teams. Best tanks + best healers = no need for tankiness overkill and go for more damage.
@ajtame
@ajtame 2 жыл бұрын
I play machinist/dancer its a sad sad time.
@snowblade7669
@snowblade7669 2 жыл бұрын
As a strictly dps raid tier list this is pretty close. In dungeons this tier list wouldn't be right. Best tank would be war because of all 3 roles in one and worst tank is dk. Dps melee is reaper and healer just depends. I've seen God tier sages and crap ones too.
@djspringstunii9965
@djspringstunii9965 2 жыл бұрын
SMN brings group heal, plus raid wide damage buff...
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Smn healer is nice but its only 100 potency. Dancer and reaper also has group heals. Its not unique.
@blueriku
@blueriku 2 жыл бұрын
I wish content creators would stop making tier list like this, it's giving new players a bad misconception in terms of viability. This isn't wow where balance is a nightmare, this is FF14 when the devs actually play the game and take pride in Balancing jobs.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
If its so balance then why are there these tiers? Lol. Its the definition of game developers not actually balanced the game. And you can see expansion after expansion of bard and dancer flip flopping between bad and worst. War being god tier. Healers being nerfed ie Astrologian being strongest healer in Shadowbringer to being nerfed. And black mage and summoner being completely reworked with red mage making very little changes.
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlonewolf bard is the most optimal and best choice rn for ranged dps wdym flip flopping between bad and worst and the majority of classes are still viable with war not being god tier but good at what it does.
@gabrielmartin2197
@gabrielmartin2197 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with DRK but I'd even put it to S tier. I just started EW savages, using DRK tank. The damage is awesome, the mitigations are very useful to spread out and the low CD of blackest night is really helpful at double-tankbusters or if someone is too late running out from an AoE. Ofc it's just imo but I'm glad DRK is doing well!
@oriain81
@oriain81 2 жыл бұрын
As a dark knight main for years I had to drop it. Warrior is far too good at the moment. Dark needs a rework. Ya it's ok in Trials/raids but try pull wall to wall in casual content and you'll need a good healer.
@Kringle308
@Kringle308 2 жыл бұрын
@@oriain81 This is my stance. The extra damage that DRK puts out is somewhat balanced out by the dps that healers have to sacrifice to keep you topped up. Definitely needs some changes
@Rukha95
@Rukha95 2 жыл бұрын
Having dancer On the same line as anything else is so dumb. The utility they bring is worth nothing when bard brings similar kits. And their personal and relative dps does not hold up in any competitive environment. Yes. All classes are viable. But so shun ninja so low when they bring decent damage amazing raid cds is crazy. But have dancer so high for what? A defensive cd and dance partner?
@Villainnnn
@Villainnnn 2 жыл бұрын
Gunbreaker imo is a c tier pick. While it does good damage, and Holy conundrum is crazy op it’s so clunky now with the addition to continuation on burst strike, and then not extending their no mercy window while simultaneously adding another move you need to add to your burst.
@Baron_Mantis
@Baron_Mantis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, my job is in the S tier (bard) 😀 Now I have to learn the whole spell rotation since I leaved the game for many months and I’m just coming back to the game 😅 But it’s comforting me that at the beginning, I made the right choice 👌🏻
@oriain81
@oriain81 2 жыл бұрын
We should never measure tanks by DPS. By far the weakest tank is Dark knight..bring one through a dungeon and compare to the other tanks and you will understand. Ironically is a good OT in hard content..but a no no for running roulettes.
@allytank-itykitty7417
@allytank-itykitty7417 2 жыл бұрын
I mean we can, but the survivability should always come first, and dps after that. which is why this list is wrong for the tanks at least xD
@duskrockruff
@duskrockruff 2 жыл бұрын
Move dnc and blm to a tier pls
@tobalitos23
@tobalitos23 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, sch is definitely not S tier. Sage much better, the rest of your S rank are good. Scholar got used Hard in savage first week but most of them switched to SGE 1 week later
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@tobalitos sage and sch is neck to neck. Fairy system is better than kardia. But Sage Eukrasian shields are better than Scholar. Expedient is a huge letdown and only help for progs. Sage has one of THE best gage system hands down. No clunkiness, no kit working against itself, just pure ogcd with short refresh and massive mitigation with big oh shet heals.
@tobalitos23
@tobalitos23 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlonewolf they are most definitely not neck and neck. You need to sacrifice healing to keep up in damage With sage and even then sage still wins out by far without sacrificing anything. That's far from neck and neck
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
raid speed buff nuff said
@tobalitos23
@tobalitos23 2 жыл бұрын
@@metalgearjesus5801 not sure what person you parroting this from but most definitely not " nuff said" We really saying SCH OP because people don't know how to push their sprint button?
@tofu6465
@tofu6465 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well Warrior soloed P1
@Techn0Fox
@Techn0Fox 2 жыл бұрын
It's accurate from just looking at stats and numbers, but I really don't feel it's an accurate representation of the jobs themselves. Playing DRK feels like a C-tier job aside from damage, RDM is S-tier just because of prog and insta-raise being extremely valuable, and BLM/SAM are very personal skill DPS jobs that only get better later in patches. I will say RPR is probably the most deserving of an S-tier. Everything about it from damage to personal gameplay is spot on for being the best job right now.
@LashNSmash
@LashNSmash 2 жыл бұрын
healers and tanks at this point in time are all mostly incredibly balanced.
@Participant852
@Participant852 2 жыл бұрын
Except for dark knight :(
@braingame007
@braingame007 2 жыл бұрын
Paladin is S tier.
@braingame007
@braingame007 2 жыл бұрын
DRK is D tier.
@CousinRoman90
@CousinRoman90 2 жыл бұрын
This list goes against everything I have heard and seen. Gun breaker is usually the worst, bard as well. Black mage is the highest damage, yet you place it in B tier? What?
@b.3363
@b.3363 2 жыл бұрын
Who is he?
@allytank-itykitty7417
@allytank-itykitty7417 2 жыл бұрын
you have not played warrior then really? xD its survivability way outclasses any of the other tanks, dungeons you don't even need a healer for you can take 4 dps, and heal them too! also its bloodwhetting is a (bloodbath, Shield and 20% mitigation) on a 25 sec CD. I took less damage than my GB co tank and I am the main tank using my whole kit. so I Think mitigation is also best on Warrior. so yeah putting GB above War is kinda biased and wrong, only advantage it has is more damage really and thats it xD
@muhannabasalem574
@muhannabasalem574 2 жыл бұрын
someone link this shit to xeno
@Michal.Jaworski
@Michal.Jaworski 2 жыл бұрын
For amount of sh*t GNB has to go to just be decent - it's kidna sad DK can do more damage with easier rotation.
@jimmyw7973
@jimmyw7973 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome work! Use a service like P-R-O-M-O-S-M!!!
@saindst
@saindst 2 жыл бұрын
When a tier list is done can it be done for how they perform in their roles please, rather than damage.............. When i play a tank i want to know what is the best TANK, not the best dps. WAR is easily S rank, and its by far the best tank currently, not just for raiding but for anything.
@garrettwidner6915
@garrettwidner6915 2 жыл бұрын
That's simply never been how FFXIV endgame content has been judged. Dps checks and enrages mean dps will always be the most important factor in any duty. The content is designed for any tank to be able to tank any content and any healer able to heal any content, with some wiggle room even in the endgame stuff. Low dps is always going to be the hardest thing to correct.
@saindst
@saindst 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrettwidner6915 This is VERY incorrect. What is never said, is that ALL jobs and ANY combination of all the jobs available can clear ANYTHING this game has to offer. This how the game has been designed. The community has created their own metas in a game where it really isn't important and quite frankly work against the good work the devs has done to avoid such situations. This game isn't WoW, don't trat it as such and be grateful you have a decently balanced game.
@garrettwidner6915
@garrettwidner6915 2 жыл бұрын
@@saindst Then why do you care about tier lists if you believe every job is equal? Go clear ultimate content or early release savage content with sub-optimal jobs and get back to me. High utility classes can pick up the slack and carry bad players.
@allytank-itykitty7417
@allytank-itykitty7417 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrettwidner6915 lol, the amount of healing the healers need to give other tanks, when with War they can just dps even through tank busters. means that War can live and keep going while healers can keep dpsing instead of healing your ass. their is a difference between personal dps and raid dps. and imo War is easy top of the tank pack as its self sustain is amazing (I recover 60k in 5 seconds and still have CDS to spare for the next busters) so remeber that big dick dps doesn't equal good classes that can clear content. and from my raid I am main tank but take less damage than my GB ot because of the dam defence on it, thats time the healers could be doing dps instead. but yeah WAR is easily top tank atm.
@SuperFluidFerroFluid
@SuperFluidFerroFluid 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending more time counting abstract numbers then to actually play the game.. The differences are so small its just silly that people even pay attention it. Play the classes you enjoy, have fun! Be a source of positive vibes instead of constantly comparing who is best this best that... Grow up..
@arkknight92
@arkknight92 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m new to the game and like using paladin, dark knight, and dragoon. It’s that final fantasy 2/4!!! Cecil and Kain!!!
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
exactly all jobs are viable as long as you can parse well
@NoName-zh1jz
@NoName-zh1jz 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit just ignore it and let people do what they want. It literally makes you look whiny if you make a snarky comment over some simple tier list that doesn’t even define the meta. It takes one brain cell to ignore a list.
@metalgearjesus5801
@metalgearjesus5801 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-zh1jz as it takes one brain cell to ignore this comment
@thunderball11111
@thunderball11111 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between bard and dancer isn’t small.
@r.a.5086
@r.a.5086 2 жыл бұрын
Sage is horrible, just sayin'. And this coming from a former Disc Priest and Resto Shaman player.
@apathy251
@apathy251 2 жыл бұрын
blm b gbn s LULW
@Battleraiser
@Battleraiser 2 жыл бұрын
Just, gross tier list.
@misosoup6201
@misosoup6201 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Reaper on top.broken needs nerf
@DOGHEIST
@DOGHEIST 2 жыл бұрын
“i’m gonna rate the jobs based on fun not damage” [rates jobs based on damage] another boring damage video
@melaniestrong5630
@melaniestrong5630 2 жыл бұрын
Tiers, tiers, tiers .... typical ex WoW player ... the thing us FFXIV-ers enjoyed for so long was the lack of tier convos, making the jobs (wow classes) much less competitive. Now with all these ex-wow hardcore players we're getting it here ... we don't want it. If you come over from WoW, you come into the spirit of our game, not all this competitiveness. I bet you're running illegal damage meters too ... go back to wow!
@Hearth_Talk
@Hearth_Talk 2 жыл бұрын
well when your looking for a raid group as a ninja and dont find one come back to this video
@MrBoston1630
@MrBoston1630 2 жыл бұрын
This is the type of person that thinks dungeons are end game content
@2ez571
@2ez571 2 жыл бұрын
@Human Disease FFXIV is the least toxic mmo in existence
@NoName-zh1jz
@NoName-zh1jz 2 жыл бұрын
FF14: We are not toxic Also FF14: *this comment*
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