Oberon for single turn nuking, Koyanskaya for consistent looping, Merlin for long term survival, the new holy trinity of buster has arrived! Buster is dead?! Hah!
@izzazprawirawicaksono3 жыл бұрын
The best part is if you have both Koyaskaya and Oberon, you dont need to choose another Koyanskaya, just pick any buster servant from the support list
@mattnarukami853 жыл бұрын
A meta's never really dead if you think about it, so long as some people still use it, even if only a handful of people do, it's still alive, just not popular. Then again using any of the metas now really depends on people's preferrences, servants and CEs they have, and the situation someone's in, and they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Just use whichever one you like, or just adjust to the quest you're attempting
@chadachi39703 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough both Double Oberon and Double Koyanskya work with allowing buster servants to loop, it’s just very dependent on what that looper has in their own kit that makes you want to take one over the other. Example would be Ibuki Douji and Ishtar, they have 3 turn/activate on Np Atk and Buster buffs but no np damage buffs so they prefer Oberon, while someone like Artoria or Lartoria has Atk buff but their buster buff is only 1 turn so they prefer Vitch. The perfect balance is running both Oberon and Vitch, you should have more than enough damage then. Not to mention Vitch herself cannot loop in her own system and actually does need double Oberon to do it, though you could just double Vitch with Semiramis… but that’s way less damage.
@Yusei5ds07073 жыл бұрын
Morgan, Arjuna Alter and Super Orion as dps.
@horuzz20093 жыл бұрын
@@mattnarukami85 META means most effective tactics available so it keeps changing, meaning old metas do die as they are no longer as the most effective
@irontrids3 жыл бұрын
And you thought the Buster Renaissance peaked with Koyanskaya's arrival? Boom! Oberon is here, the Renaissance continues.
@smilingcat38513 жыл бұрын
finally 3 turn farming with summer BB is becoming more possible
@ivanbluecool3 жыл бұрын
She could already farm with double vitch kscope or plugsuit kscope double waver skadi or any 50 charger. Bb double vitch kscope with atlas gives all you need to do 3 turns but if you need 6 slots for whatever reason like lottery Oberon would be nicer. Oberon is more so a team of farmers than just one.
@RuminasVall3 жыл бұрын
so the buster system now is koyan for easy go, oberon to nuke the shit out of anything this new system is pretty ballance not gonna lie they are very good but not overshadow any previous type farming like when castoria comeout, cus buster have a limit and that limit is understandable.
@DarknesstheHedgehog63 жыл бұрын
Don't forgot Merlin for survival. He's especially shown he's still has importance after Lostbelt 6.
@arahaitham1233 жыл бұрын
Hope people start collecting append coin for Oberon S2. If our friend's support Oberon has it, we could use Plugsuit and allow another battery support to come and help charge the dps who dont have 50% battery.
@ivanbluecool3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool I guess with no ce charge or less need for one so it will be a great add for people on Farming events. Na wise still looking at space Ishtar and castoria for now. These buster units I'll keep an eye on. Vitch more so than Oberon as I think her system looks more fun.
@Idcenoughlmao3 жыл бұрын
You can always combine them
@ivanbluecool3 жыл бұрын
@@Idcenoughlmao well I do that with Nero bride and Tamamo or Merlin and Tamamo already so probably but I gotta see what summer 6 has. If it has anyone I actually like I'll probably skip Oberon and vitch on na. If not I'll try for both by then as I only want space ishtar and castoria on na and after that I'll stop rolling for anyone else.
@g.s.2663 жыл бұрын
Damn that's ingenious I was thinking of just using the edgy moth for double koyan looping and maybe looping with koyan on cavalry but damn that's something I didn't even think of, well I guess it's just more incentive to roll for him
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
It’s exactly why I made this, to let more people know there is another option of not looping but NPing with all 3 frontline servants.
@Nolo-HLM3 жыл бұрын
Do you feel that Tamamo Vitch is for more consistent farming and Vortigen is mainly for nuking the crap out of the final wave correct?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
You could say so yeah, against Knights though like WHY wouldn't you bring Oberon and 6 slot if you have a good personal Oberon? Koyayaya covered the other spectrum. Just insane Buster now has many options to work lol
@Nolo-HLM3 жыл бұрын
@@Dire444 true. But since I'm trying to np5 eresh from 0 copies and since I already have morgan and my own Koyanskaya. I don't think I will be needing to summon for any more units.
@davidt68143 жыл бұрын
@@Nolo-HLM how much money you spending to np5 her?
@Nolo-HLM3 жыл бұрын
@@davidt6814 none. I'm a f2p. Im just hoping gacha gods will bless me when that fateful day comes. If not. I will keep saving up for her for however long to make her my first np 5 ssr.
@xValsion3 жыл бұрын
@@Nolo-HLM it gonna take years. good luck though, me trying to NP5 Melusine, currently NP2, just wasted all 500 SQ on Oberon banner and got none.
@tama27743 жыл бұрын
The biggest winner here is FK Lancelot with double Vitch + Oberon system she just can crap on anything that's not saber with 6 slots. Even when you remove Vitch with other generic 50% charger like waver she still slaps hard
@killerqueen25503 жыл бұрын
I love how Waver is considered generic at this point. Not saying you're wrong tho.
@irontrids3 жыл бұрын
And the best part, she can even destroy Saber and Ruler nodes due to the sheer damage boost from their combined buffs despite the class disadvantage.
@mndy1293 жыл бұрын
@@killerqueen2550 Waver has always been *the* generic support, and yes that's not a bad thing at all, since that means you can bring him everywhere and he'll be useful
@killerqueen25503 жыл бұрын
@@mndy129 i'm not sure that's how you define generic but i'll agree
@tama27743 жыл бұрын
@@irontrids yeah if you slap MLB BG on her she can even destroy saber with said setups at only NP1
@innovatorbunny3 жыл бұрын
man, watching this kinda makes me want to create an alt account entirely devoted to giving eresh as many supports and np lvls as possible, just to make her super buffed up. i have her and merlin on my main, but between other servants i want to roll like voyager i don't think i'd be able to do it within my funds.
@Silver-Arrow3 жыл бұрын
oberon has a passive that lowers merlin's buff success rate by 20% so watch out for that if you do
@kameoosama3 жыл бұрын
I really look forward to Oberon and Vitch since I have all these lored AOE buster DPS servants already. Now if it's easy to mix and match the two so I can bring literally whoever on support that would make it even better.
@Ruekja3 жыл бұрын
Now this is peak fgo
@inespineda84003 жыл бұрын
Finally the buster memes are growing in power the revival was on vitch and the strengthening on oberon
@larrycap29463 жыл бұрын
Is he good as the main dps at np2 with 2 tamamo vitch as the support?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
I didn't do any double tamamo vitch with Oberon, but yes it will be strong against knights probably
@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub3 жыл бұрын
Oberon can loop with BG if you have his append skill unlocked, so yeah against knights...
@jadenkarpoff91583 жыл бұрын
I love the new evil meta. I found it disappointing that all of the main support servants were good, but now Vitch and Vortigern have remedied that. Only problem is that it looks like lostbelt 6 is going to bankrupt me when it comes to NA...
@DarknesstheHedgehog63 жыл бұрын
All the main supports weren't good though. Tamamo who was the go to arts support before Caster Artoria is Neutral Evil, and Reines/Sima Yi is True Neutral.
@jadenkarpoff91583 жыл бұрын
@@DarknesstheHedgehog6 Eh Tamamo is barely evil in grand order despite her alignment. My point stands that proper evil support servants have been long overdue.
@Jknight4163 жыл бұрын
Looks like the buster meta is back in business again in FGO!
@MBits.3 жыл бұрын
Imagine doing this with arash with guts could be a 2 turn stella
@Drakno23 жыл бұрын
Nero caster should also be compatible with the double oberon system
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
it wasn't exhaustive honestly, any 50% works really but I'd discourage this exact setup against cavalry event if it works here, you need low HPs... Double Vitch is better against cavalry
@Drakno23 жыл бұрын
@@Dire444 the thing with double vitch is though it deals more damage it doesn't allow for 6 ce farming which is why the double oberon comp seems more promising for lotto farming etc
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
@@Drakno2 True, but with caster servants nito is a thing so you can get away with double vitch still and still do 6 CEs (but again always depends on nodes honestly)
@mr.starkidontfeelsogood24853 жыл бұрын
Do you think this farm would be possible with a Europa? Maybe even using a kaleidoscope if you have to?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
Europa needs her append maxed to full 20%, needs both Oberons appended and a 10% MC applied to herself to work like its show in this video. However because she's Cavalry and Oberon doesn't do great there, you're better off using her with vitch where she sorta works if you work around her 30% battery.
@TheRacingmanic3 жыл бұрын
So in what instances would u take this over double Konyanskaya (assuming morgan as dps)? Only when there are not humanoid / man , enemies?
@Jexol4843 жыл бұрын
He feels like a last resort servant, whether it's him using NP on the last wave or superbuffing your servant on the literal last hp bar to kill
@ruta90443 жыл бұрын
Literally any time you are fighting knight classes and you have a servant with a 50% battery, this will be superior to anything Koyanskaya can do.
@zerocrimson87253 жыл бұрын
So, if my Oberon isn't NP2 or more, it doesn't work?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
It's the damage, if the HP on wave 1 is high, or wave 2, NP1s may not be able to kill outright. Its especially problematic with oberon since his NP applies an invul so you're forced to wait another turn
@zerocrimson87253 жыл бұрын
@@Dire444 Sadly, as a F2P, i'm forced to stay NP1, on the good side, i got Morgan today
@RatentaisouFGO3 жыл бұрын
Ty dire, very cool :woahberon:
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
:woahberon:
@black.lockhart3 жыл бұрын
Yo what do you do to have the supports at 3 ascension? or you need to have the servant?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
Need the servant, clear up to LB6, and finish the special quest for it
@black.lockhart3 жыл бұрын
@@Dire444 Guess I'll have to save until 2023 xD, only got NP 2 Sith
@anonjohn97603 жыл бұрын
Well I managed to somehow luck into 3 copies of the Prince with only ~180 SQ and I got a NP5 Koyanshaya, so I guess I'm set when it comes to Buster Memes and farming, huh? Man, I guess Threats against love me something fierce, or are plotting a most heinous fate for myself......welp, better enjoy them while I can! I do have a few questions for ya, though, if you care to answer: -If used mainly for his Damage Buffs, would he be better or worse than Merlin and Nero in standard DKS? Merlin's Buffs last longer overall through a standard 3-turn clear, but he doesn't have much NP charge to give or the sheer explosivity that is the moth's S3, so I'm having a tough time visualizing who has an edge up or not. -Which is overall 'better' in Damage Per Wave and Overall Damage (in your estimates), DKS, DCS, or the new DOS? -Would you consider Oberon to be better than Waver as the better general support, or not? I'm on the fence about it, as while Big O's S3 is a monkey's paw (a useful one, but still) and the cumbersomeness that comes with a single 50% Charge he still has 20% Party Charge w/Party NP Damage Up and 50% Targeted Charge w/Stars vs Waver's 2 10% Party Charges, 1 30% Targeted Charge, 30% Party ATK Up and 50% Targeted Crit Up. That, and his NP can does some major damage to a Wave and stall out a turn if need be much better than Waver's, if you contrive a way for him to use it.
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
He’s for sure better than Merlin. Merlin is now solely for CQs and not for farming. Better compare with Koyanskaya on that front. Is he better than her though? Not really, but for me personally he can 6 slot farm Knights assuming I find good support Oberons. That is pretty great in 90+ era, only hurdle being enemy HPs. For generic 6 slot plugsuit, you can now basically do wild things with double Koyanskaya with him, or can go other routes. Him and her having damaging NPs make them better and more flexible than waver for sure. NP Buff is rarer than Charisma that waver provides too. Ultimately, honestly the answer it depends lol. If you have enough to clear a specific node, then that’s the answer. That’s all that matters, no matter who you use, the ones that work with least amount of time, buttons, and CEs are the best options.
@MrRomeovargas3 жыл бұрын
hmm. too much clicking and after buff time. id stay with double castoria with zerksashi and sphistar.
@shotsarelost78842 жыл бұрын
If i don't have KS , can Castoria cover that for Morgan ?
@Dire4442 жыл бұрын
What's KS? You mean koyanskaya? I mean yes, just less damage since no buster buff for buster units
@DoctorKarkand3 жыл бұрын
How can I see 3rd ascension from my support list? Do I actually need him to see it? A friend of mine has it on his third ascension and I see him on his second one. I did beat LB6 btw.
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
Apparently the new update has it locked unless you roll him and clear his special quest. I think it's a bug but who knows, if they change it then we'll know it's a bug, otherwise you might be locked out from seeing his FA unless you roll him.
@DoctorKarkand3 жыл бұрын
@@Dire444 A shame. Hopefully they will eventually let it show for those who cleared the story. I prefer his final sprite over the first two ones but it doesn't really matter much when I'm just farming. That being said, great video! I don't have him but I do have a set up that clears practically everything with just one Oberon so I can go on without him for now.
@Joker-bk5xj3 жыл бұрын
How do I unlock his final form do I have to finish lb6?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
Finish LB6 as well as the special quest that unlocks after that
@sutefanisoreru48143 жыл бұрын
I have a question 😔 why can't I upgrade the skills of my Oberon? 😔 do I need to finish LB6 also to even bring his skills to 10/10/10? Because in my skills list for servants I have everyone but Oberon never appears there 😔 but I already put him at level 90 😔
@ewakaro83783 жыл бұрын
Seems like you didn't have enough mats
@sutefanisoreru48143 жыл бұрын
@@ewakaro8378 oh no 😔 I have 200+ of every mats he needs I just verified it even now again 😔
@ewakaro83783 жыл бұрын
@@sutefanisoreru4814 hmm, i kinda confused on your case. My oberon is 9/9/9 (i waste my crystal lore for mura and castoria) and i just barely finish lb 5 part 2. Maybe you misclick it? Lvl 90 servant should be appeared on top if i'm not mistaken.
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand your issue. Only his Sprite and Costume are locked behind a special quest and for LB6 completion. His skills should be available so I would verify you completed them all
@sutefanisoreru48143 жыл бұрын
@@ewakaro8378 You were absolutely right I realized this morning that I clicked some stuff that hided my Oberon I could finally find him and upgrade his skills to 10/10/10 :D
@magatsuzer085310 ай бұрын
Pov: you don’t have Koyanskaya
@Hertaspacestation69803 жыл бұрын
Could this system work for lower stars like Cu Caster and Spartacus?
@horuzz20093 жыл бұрын
If you have np charge ces on all 3 then yes you can
@ivanbluecool3 жыл бұрын
Cu caster is one of the better units to use this system with as his battery is huge which allows for more charge back and black grial
@htvbmt3 жыл бұрын
2 more year until buster become the best farmer
@MichaelKing015 Жыл бұрын
np5 folks
@Nukellers3 жыл бұрын
dire wheres my vid
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
unlisted
@toraneko15633 жыл бұрын
Does np2 Oberon a must?
@hikaruhanif91633 жыл бұрын
oberon case for me its about how much you love him to want to np2 him, him being buster np servant its not like you gonna spam his np and his s3 is more than enough damage even when you supporting a 3star servant. Personally I see him as support/attacking servant focusing on big damage on 1 turn
@Nukellers3 жыл бұрын
Noberon
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
RIP
@treebush3 жыл бұрын
hmm np5 though how viable is this with np1 considering he seems to hit piss poor numbers otherwise
@TheMarth173 жыл бұрын
In his describtion below the video the creator agrees with you. The Oberon should be at least np 2 so his np dmg numbers are high enough, better np 3. So i would say np 1 is not reliable in general. It really depends on the notes you are farming
@motivated39823 жыл бұрын
Wow np5 mine only np2😰
@Reikosamaa3 жыл бұрын
with fgo's low droprate it's pretty much a waste of time to even get oberon, while he can do that as shown in the video he's still useless most of the time. complete waste of SQ, would love to get my quarz i wasted on him back but well i didn't even got him so fgo's still fgo. and i'll make sure to skip that piece of garbage in global.
@treeck3724 Жыл бұрын
How ya feel about this comment a year later
@LuizFernando-he8mc3 жыл бұрын
oberon, morgan, koyanskaya and waver is a good team for farm? (all np1)
@potatoewifi3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to clear LB6 to unlock his 3rd ascension?
@demothiguillermo20592 жыл бұрын
Yes
@roman13073 жыл бұрын
I already have NP1 Oberon, do i have to roll for a NP2 if I want to use him as DPS?
@Dire4443 жыл бұрын
Depends, you’ll need a strong support Oberon for wave 2 while your own can maybe squeak by at wave 1 (buffing him with MC)