【FGO】 Ordeal Call 3 English Translation - Chapter 21 (2/2) - Fate/Grand Order

[@VaszleinAgstral]

Overall, it was a satisfying ending for Hakuno: leading humanity for 1000 years, leaving the future to a new generation, and finally being able to rest in peace. He even got to hang out with his kouhai and experience the youth he never had, while giving a proper send-off to BB. However, skipping over his journey and jumping straight to the ending feels like such a dick move, Nasu.

[@Fatelore228]

Unfortunately Nasu had no other choice after the failure of the Extella games. At least we were able to give Hakuno some closure, and now they will be in Chaldea where they can spend time with BB and the Sakura Five and meet new friends. They are free from the weight of being the protagonist, now they can be a support.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

I wouldn't really call it "jumping over to the end of the story" for Hakuno, taking into consuderation they livef a 1000 years as representatives of their humanity until it was time to give space for the new prime species with their worlds' new Archetype taking over and them finally resting in peace. Mostly because I think part of the Extra games already roll with you in the middle of the story, not at the beginning. Like how Extra already kicks in in 2030 and you're told background story of what happened in the past since the 70s. Or Extra CCC making the player assume the game will be like a sequel but it's not. The Extella games also making you assume they're sequels of the Extra games but aren't and also give you more lore, like Velber or what Rex Magnus found in his youth that connects him to Altera. If anything, I hope that if Part 3 of FGO may focus on possible futures, that we get to see one of the Hakunos' worlds to hear from first hand the exploits of them by the citizens of the Moon Cell just as we meet their new Archetype. It may not be seeing the rest of Hakuno's journey, but it will be amazing seeing ehat they accomplished for 1000 years before they finally kicked the bucket in peace.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

​@@Fatelore228as well as enjoying life in a different way and being a senpai of Ritsuka. Their dynamic with him was too cute to let it waste

[@VaszleinAgstral]

@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Putting the epilogue for Hakuno and the Extra timeline into a different game instead of creating a new Extra game feels really disappointing for someone like me who is mostly interested in Extra when it comes to Nasu's work. I hope this doesn’t mean that Record will be the last Extra game and that Nasu won’t give a proper closure to the Extra/Extella storyline.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

@@VaszleinAgstral I enjoyed the Extra games as well and they were my entry point to the Fate franchise, which I really didn't care for until I played Extra... but let's being realistic, the Extra titles never had any proper consistency in their stories. No, I'm not saying they had "bad writting", I'm saying that they all were their own things to begin with. None truly felt like a proper seque or adaption of the other. Like CCC Fox Tail isn't a CCC adaption but its own take. Or the Extra anime also being its own thing, not an adaptation of Extra, but rather taking elements of it. Each Extra installment was always like that: never a sequel but rather taking already mentioned elements to be their own things. I don't think Extra Record will be the last Extra game, let aloke entry in the franchise... but as endings for the characters come, I think this was the best for the Hakunos that they could've gotten. Unless somehow we get a new Extra game showcasing their last adventure before giving room to the new Archetype and them finally resting for good on their own, I don't know how that would be done. And if it is, maybe their final adventure won't lead to that but towards a different ending. Only time will tell but so far I'm glad they got their proper rest.

[@Tyztube21]

This ceremonial battle gives me Yugioh feels. Farewell Hakuno Kishinami, the protagonist that introduced me to the Fate franchise and Type Moon in general.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

Not to mention Ereshkigal and Anki having a Yugi and Atem relationship as well at the end of OC3. You can argue OC3 also had small Yugioh inspiration, just like the final battle against Moon Cancer and Ritsuka facing off against the negative thoughts of it being heavily inspired in Evangelion. This chapter was amazing, even with everything else it had been accompanied that were slight letdowns. OC3 is the 2nd best OC so far

[@shirotitbit1542]

Well, they join you after this so isn't really a farewell

[@beneditoneto5811]

10:11 Damn, Hakunon was straightly like: "You better pick me."

[@robiihsan4788]

She is still salty about last encore

[@stevensteven5215]

Ordeal Call 1 Is Kama Story Ordeal Call 2 Is Avenger Story Ordeal Call 3 is BB story

[@redbone9553]

Really brought Chaldea's Beast army to fight the Hakunos. Poor senpai want to send us off with a blast and this is our response.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

they said they won't hold back. neither should we

[@kieranwrightstone2199]

Consideiring they fought the Buddha, Kiara, Kazuradrop,, Archmedies, and Karl as a Master and won, I would bring out nothing but the best.

[@shirotitbit1542]

Not to mention all servants used are beast compatible classes

[@luthfimisbah5103]

It'd be disrespectful to not go all out against our senpais who's going all out too.

[@mihneadragu1116]

Deserved

[@neh1234]

Well it's been a full decade but I guess this finishes Extra for good. What a crazy journey it's been for the Hakunos. Rest well.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

They really earned their proper farewell after all thr crazy adventures they went through. Glad their last moments actually had them enjoying life as normal people for a while and then into the heat of battle as servants instead of Masters for them to go out with a proper send off

[@sweethinako5248]

I was 17 years old when i played fate extra ccc this......made me cry

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

@@sweethinako5248 same, now that I'm 29 wow... time really does fly, huh? Good things and bad things happend, people come and go, loved one leave for good, new loved ones come into your life... but time moves on and somehow, even if you don't want to, so do you... where does time even go, huh? Glad we got this farewell for them, they earned it

[@bitrel07]

BB is as BB goes. She can be very mean but at the same time, she can be equally caring and concerned about everyone else if reality forces her hand. Even if she isn't the OG BB from CCC, she still remembers all those fond times with the Hakuno Kishinamis. This Ordeal Call really was a graduation call for both the Masters of the Moon and the Master of the Earth. The former duo graduated from their roles and are able to be free from their burdens (until we summon them again) while the latter has graduated into a proper Master thanks to this.

[@capetel368]

Fujimaru is far more than just a proper master.

[@Scala-ad-caelum]

You can't show me that new art of bb crying and not expect me to have tears

[@Karvantes]

This truly is one of the FGO story of all time.

[@jericojoir4894]

Love that the battle OST is just Wonderer.

[@Nicolas-lb9de]

Damn thanks I was searching everywhere for where the music comes from, the notes at the very start are so good

[@Pheles-mj7xq]

Despite BB's shenanigans, she will always be the most dependable AI.

[@Scala-ad-caelum]

Oh the irony of having draco fight these two

[@jericojoir4894]

Hakuno helped Draco in Lilim Harlot.

[@Xernitory]

thank you for the translations. I ended up caving and deciding to read oc3 early and also playing jp specifically so I could avoid being spoiled on if a section like this happened

[@Xernitory]

as quite a large extra/extra ccc enjoyer, this was an incredible read and god I love what they did with BB this chapter

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

15:34 oh. I understand. Wow that's gonna be a headache. If I understand this correctly, basically were forgetting for now, but once summer has passed and we've caught up to after what happened we'll remember.

[@MokoES]

honestly i think people really misunderstand the "not remenbering" here in the Nasu stories. Because Nasu makes a massive distinction between mind and soul(saint graph) and what each remenbers. The mind can forget but the soul wont. Those events are still embed into the person but they simply cant bring forth externally it will be something that exist in their deepest parts. It changes them in ways that they dont think about directly but still are important.

[@ComunCoutinho]

No, Fujimaru will only remember once they organically reach the year 3017.

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

Well, I will just let it be my headcanon that we forgot it for a while but it came back. Or those who were from there who’d remember filled us in afterwards.

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@ComunCoutinho 2030

[@zulueta1250]

So the "strongest master in history" beat the "strongest master of the future".

[@Fatelore228]

As they said, this wasn't a fight to the death but rather something ceremonial. Like a graduation. So rather than seeing it as "X beat X" it should be seen more as a moment of fun between the three.

[@beneditoneto5811]

Well, Hakunon states that Fujimaru is far more experienced and Hakuno says Guda's more impressive and complex soooo

[@zulueta1250]

@@Fatelore228 Yes, that is correct. But still beat both of them, Hakuno even admit that they done all they can to beat him/her but failed. Still a fun fight tho.

[@noerufrost643]

We beast abusers sis >:3c

[@yaqinmalul6467]

Hakunos; let fight fair and square kouhai Fujimaru; *summon RANDOM BULLSHIT GO* hakunos ; wha- 10:45 rare bb moment

[@primeramarmot101]

@@yaqinmalul6467 those shadow servants are pretty op ngl

[@yaqinmalul6467]

@@primeramarmot101 🤣

[@StarBoy0204]

10:11 Even when we only had to choose one Hakuno, the Female one said “I recommend Me”

[@freespaceace1]

2:48 Unless this was just clever editing.. A TEAM ATTACK.. finally. This was so cool. When this comes to NA I'm definitely gonna do a BB team for this fight.

[@gwagner1380]

Unfortunately for now it is only applied to the boss battle. It was stated that on a later event, you would be able to summon the opposite gender Hakuno on the Friend gacha as a rate up unit so people are waiting for said event in order to see if we get our first dual NP or not. Also if we get more of the Sakura Five as Hakuno in part 2 told BB and many other characters that we need to meet Violet so who knows what's on stock but at least it was confirmed that Hakuno will be featured on a future rate up.

[@herosjourney9205]

So the Amnesia Syndrome is a Corrective Filter imposed by the Human Order. I can see now Twice's obsession of progressing Humanity through eternal wars since Overture 1999 is like a designated fixed event that Humanity should overcome. Luckily, the existence of Moon Cell ensured that Humanity can survive. Just wondering, could it be that the discovery of the Moon Cell in the 1970s in the EX timeline is also a Quantum-Timelock event in that world?

[@BRIAN_80]

After years of BB being flanderized and always treated like a nuisance and bullied by almost all the cast... it's beautiful that Nasu has finally given us a totally emotional BB scene, and even better with Hakuno/n, her original senpai. Now I just wish that she and Hakuno/n can spend beautiful times in Chaldea, since this reunion is unfortunately temporary and they will separate again when Fgo ends.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

Unless they somehow write another story involving BB and Hakuno together, which I doubt since this does feel like a proper send off to the Extra games and Hakuno (oh, the irony, considering Extra will get its remake). Maybe when Extra Record comes out, there will be a collab to promote the game that features the Hakunos hanging with BB and them going back to Chaldea together to enjoy themselves

[@MoebiusX9]

@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 This chapter hints at a future Extella game pretty heavily so I wouldn't say that just yet.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

@@MoebiusX9 we shall see, since we still got that Extra Record game cooking in the meantime. If we also get another Extella game in the future, I'm not expecting it until a decade later, and that's if Nasu is totally in to write it down.

[@Nothingness4907]

I would say OC3 BB has been the flanderized one instead She was never a good person nor had redeeming qualities, her behaviour in FGO so far has been consistent with what was previously shown It's just that CCC straight up lie about, FGO just roll with it most of the times and OC3 try for the first time to have her behave properly but this just sound so fake when You think of everything prior, ESPECIALLY in CCC BB is simply not a character suited for this kind of stuff and You can clearly feel how forced all of this is

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

@@Nothingness4907 Ah your back again. go away, your not really wanted you incredibly negative annoyance. Or rather, did your negativity go up? Wow your lying about lying. Impressive. (Best BB version, Which is pure mockery) OG BB did lot's of bad stuff, but she did it in the name of saving a loved one from a terrible fate. She burned herself to ashes for that love. That is the truth. Also caused trouble in chaldea while doing good things to balance the scale. She's a pain in the neck, but one that's helpful and fun to have around!

[@Mr.Khairul.9411]

Wow, bring a beast class to exhibition match is wild

[@Fatelore228]

12:42 With this we can put an end to all the debates about whether BB still felt love for the Hakunos or not. The answer is yes.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

It's a yes to both Hakunos and Gudas. I think that has never been put up for dispute.

[@Fatelore228]

​@@ChaldeaWarmaster since 2017 until now there were many FGO fans who said that FGO's BB was a BB that didn't remember Hakuno...

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

@@Fatelore228 I am pretty sure she does remember. Even her own lines subtly imply that bit.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

​@@Fatelore228then the discussion should shift from "does she love Hakuno or Guda?" to "does she remember Hakuno?". The answer is, yes. Even if she isn't the BB both of them knew, at her core, she knows them and mean a lot to her just like the Gudas.

[@luisfillipebeserra2108]

​@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349makes sense, BB was literally born because of them

[@AlvinXian]

can't wait the next president singularity

[@shirasagiruri-1971]

THE SEQUEL TO FATE EXTRA, FATE EXTRA CCC, EXTELLA AND POST EXTELLA AS A PLAYER WHO HAD CLEARED ALL, I WISH THE BEST FOR THE MASTER I LOVE THE MOST CONGRATS ON GRADUATION, MY FIRST FATE WAIFU EVER, HAKUNON 😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@kailevil3444]

Wait what?! All the memories? Oh come on!

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

I swear this is a cliché when it comes to anything related to dealing with stuff from the Extra games: forget what you experienced. It happened in CCC, Paper Moon and now Moon Dubai. Wonder why keep this up again...

[@kailevil3444]

@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Uh, so that's why we didn't remember Kiara on Kama's event, which wouldn't make sense because it was *our* world and *our* time, althouth could be that when we went to SERAPH we were moved 5 years into the future, could be wrong though, but we didn't get any knowledge of the future there.

[@cameraredeye3115]

​@@kailevil3444 That's likely what happened. BB made sure that Fujimaru can't take future memories back with him into the present upon returning from SERAPH, so when Kiara shows up in the Ooku prologue, we don't remember summoning her at all.

[@alesguer8651]

Im happy for BB, she was able to be praised for her true senpai, celebrate their graduation and say proper goodbye. No doubt she gonna be a proper caretaker of humanity future, which depending of the circumstances mean she gonna be their villain sometimes, i guess thats the role of the mooncancer class, and if is not, its hers🌸

[@QuanNguyen-hu9cs]

There are so many questions right now? - The Hakunos said like they are the only hakuno in multi timeline, if they vanish like this in OCIII, BB will never meet them again. i remember that hakunos have the right to enter recorded univervse so why they choose to stay in seraph and then vanish before archetype is launched? - Why hakunos entrusted future to bb chaldea when she is only a servant, is a bb in recorded universe a better one? (is seraph a part of recorded universe, if it is true than it can solve some of my questions)

[@user-cYhjMAHpW]

10:12 Since I choose Hakunon on Lilim Harlot, I chose her after I finished OC3. Hopefully I will get Hakuno once OC3 returns on Main Interlude.

[@kieranwrightstone2199]

Of course I should have known BB to pull something at the end. At least Hakuno can finally rest and make it to the Throne of Heros now…oh I can’t imagine what his Servants reaction to that is going to be.

[@fern8776]

holy shit 2 hakuno with 1000 year of experience losing to base guda with mash

[@primeramarmot101]

I mean wodime and daybit>>>>>Hakus Must’ve been light work for them lol

[@mirzapramudya1580]

Mash and multiple shadow servants lmao They were beat by the master who solo'd a Grand

[@Fatelore228]

​@@primeramarmot101Quick question, who are those who despite having everything in their favor died without achieving anything? And who are those who started out having everything against them but in the end triumphed and died happy to have achieved their goals?

[@primeramarmot101]

@@Fatelore228 One was unlucky and got betrayed and the other one had to fight Ritsuka himself so it what it is lol.

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

I hope Guda gets an ending as happy as Hakuno. They just seem so happy with everything till the end

[@neh1234]

It's going to be a hell of an ordeal to go back to his normal life after all this though.

[@extralie-kfpfirstapostle9160]

Okay, so like I don't mind Hakuno dying (they lived for 1000 years and they die in pretty much every game at least once). But I don't like the way it happened. One, killing Hakuno is fine, but why kill them in the one way that doesn't make any sense? In Extella, the reason why Hakuno lived is that they wished that AI who fulfill their role won't be deleted and will be assigned a new role, but here they die because they fulfilled their role? Two, I love BB and CCC, but why is Hakuno fine with spending their last moments with BB instead of, you know, the people who were their for them from the beginning? The people that they canonically married to? Sometimes it feel like BB and CCC are the only thing Nasu remember about the Extraverse. Three, this have nothing to do with their death, but WDYM ALAYA CAUSE AMNESIA SYNDROME!? AND WHY ARE YOU JUST CASUALLY REVEALING THAT LIKE IT WAS ALREADY A KNOWN FACT WHEN IT WAS A MYSTERY IN EXTRA! NASU WTH!?

[@LuckyTheReviewer]

THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT URKS ME! Nasu basically retcon Extella continuity to make this happen. The entire reason (or at least how I have been able to deal with the unclear nature of it) is that Hakuno's wish inadvertently caused an contradiction in the Moon Cell's processing: Hakuno was a bug and thus needed to be deleted but, because of their wish, the Moon Cell couldn't delete Hakuno because they were technically still a NPC of the Grail War and, with the Grail War being over, their task was finished. The only way for the Moon Cell to basically get out of this processing error was by recognizing Hakuno as a human and, thus, being the only human left on the Moon ended up receiving the Regalia and becoming the Sovereign of SERAPH as well as being the representative for humanity. Yet here we are with them apparently being deleted because their role is finished (even though we've established the Moon Cell shouldn't be doing that anymore). And then there is the fact that this is EXTELLA Hakuno. You know, the one that experienced the Saber Route ending. The one that canonically gets married to Nero and also has Tamamo as their lover and Altera Larvae as their adopted daughter and that's just Extella. Between Charlie likely becoming a younger brother and Karl becoming a father figure, Hakuno basically was making a family for themselves. Yet here we just hear nothing about them. No Nero, no Tamamo, no Altera, nothing. No it because all about B fucking B. You know, the girl they should have long since gotten over with and, in fact, shouldn't have had feelings for them in the first place. You know because Extella Zero follows the Saber Route of CCC but with extra stuff happening? Did you forget that too, Nasu, because you already forgot and retconned Hakuno not remembering the events of CCC, with Nero only remembering Liz but not knowing where they met and Tamamo remembering everything but likely keeping it to herself in Extella in multiple scenes but I guess we are just full on sending it with that part of the Extella Zero notes being wrong. Which begs the question of what else in those notes are just incorrect. And the worst thing about this: Nasu had a Hakuno that could have easily come in and fit better than Extella Hakuno when it comes to interacting with BB: CCC ending Hakuno. You know, the one Hakuno that decided to not fight BB but to talk to her? The one that promise that they would protect her and Sakura before Kiara pulled her bs? You have the CCC ending that is basically leaves what happens in their world open ended and Nasu could have, not only finally closed that loose end up, finally bring this whole CCC arc he's been doing in FGO to a proper conclusion by having CCC Hakuno and White Sakura return and ultimately save BB. It would have been so much better but, nope, we have Hakuno basically abandon their family that they've known for a thousand years just to go die with a girl they haven't seen and probably thought about for literal centuries. And then theres the Amnesia Syndrome. So Alaya just decided to kill off humanity then, is that it? And if it is connected to Ayala, how come Twice was able to develop a surgery that cures the disease? Why would a single living human be able to cure a disease created by the Counter Force? It's bad enough we have a ritual taking place in Extra that shouldn't even exist because it's made by a race that, in theory, shouldn't exist that ultimately causes the poles to shift and the metaphorical shit to hit the fan but now we have Alaya just deciding "Fuck it" and playing Nurgle for no real reason. Overall, I am not looking forward to Extra Record if this is the sort of writing we are getting from Nasu in terms of Extraverse's writing quality.

[@StarBoy0204]

13:23 anyone know the name of this OST? If it’s still on KZbin since FGO doesn’t like spoilers now, just hope OC 3 theme (like Kiara Theme) isn’t blocked

[@junjun366]

It’s the ordeal call 3 map theme

[@rashaun9637]

What's the song that starts around 10:15?

[@segafan1316]

A new remix of CCC's title theme

[@rashaun9637]

Ok thanks

[@Stroimex]

Extra was a mistake

[@OwO377]

But totally worth it.

[@Karvantes]

fr Nasu need to stop milking those series, cuz the story's just didn't work

[@Nothingness4907]

I guess this is the double edged sword to leave Nasu keep writing about his characters in future works Bro can't have them live an happy life till the very end I bet we're gonna learn that Ritsuka lived a tormented life after returning home from Chaldea or something (which is even hinted by Sion in OC1) It was better not knowing to be honest Also, what with forgetting anything? That's some crap! What was even the point of all of this?

[@SUPERSIDESWIPER]

The point of it was to save Moon Dubai, as well as meet new friends who will remember what happened once their summoned. Plus, it means the Protagonist can offscreen enjoy their vacation without a horrible crisis to deal with.

[@Nothingness4907]

@@SUPERSIDESWIPER We wouldn't even know of Moon Dubai it it wasn't for this specific out of nowhere story chapter So, not really And also those "friends" aren't Canon So in all of this all we gained was Ciel (who don't remember either), which despite being my second favorite heroine in Tsukihime isn't enough to justify this whole mess If it's not story relevant in the story chapter I don't care how Ritsuka spend his summer

[@capetel368]

​@SUPERSIDESWIPER garbage Robs ritsuka of development and good moments

[@Nothingness4907]

@@capetel368 Pretty much I was thinking I was being too harsh on this OC but then that happened and I lost hope This isn't like Lostbelt 6 where at a closer analysis was pretty goddamn good This is just an overall mess, a mistake that was never supposed to be, an insult to FGO fans as a whole

[@miteigi8334]

8:22

[@MoebiusX9]

I really dislike them killing off Hakuno in FGO of all places. Could have at least shown us what they accomplished directly in an Extella game and had their end be there, would have been much more satisfying than just being told things

[@bluelion3008]

Perhaps it will be in a future game. Don't you know of the remake of Fate/EXTRA? Maybe more future games of that timeline will come.

[@m.h-ar124la7]

Still better than Iori. Fgo basically confirmed Iori died because he got "that ending" in his playthrough. Not that it is surprising though, in the game saber mentioned the choice is the only choice Iori will ever pick.

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

I mean, I personally liked this send off for thrm instead of their story still being stretched again and again. Don't take me wrong, I love Hakuno, he and Tamamo in Extra convinced me to give the Fate franchise a chance over a decade ago and I picked the male one over the female because I always played with him... but I always considered things must have an end. And this wasn't so bad. After all, we heard what they did, how hey lived for 1000 years until it was their time to finally walk out and then saw how they got a last moment of respite; from enjoying life normally as civillians to fighting to their hearts content as servants. Even bid farewell to BB as well. I think they got what they deserved: a proper ending in their own terms after a life of struggles. Who doesn' deserve that? Now, as for seeing more of them later on... maybe with the release of Extra Record, we could have a collab where we see them again in action (preferably, BEFORE the events of Moon Dubai). Or even have part 3 of FGO explore other worlds with future possibilities and meet the Archetype of their worlds while also going to their Moon Cells and knowing from the AIs in there how great the Hakunos were.

[@azureheart2846]

@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349don’t they still need to deal with Velber?

[@luisfillipebeserra2108]

​@@azureheart2846Hadn't Altera already beaten them?

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

Just came up with this idea. What if Fujimaru gets their own "np" but it activates using their command seals to unleash the Black Barrel with Mash as its wielder? Or it could just be a BB dubai situation where Mash gets two nps but it'll still use the master's command seals. And then you get to see Fujimaru Ritsuka and Mash in the np, kinda like seeing the hakunos in their np