Fiat Seicento Buying Guide! Tiny Car, HUGE Fun, Small Money!

[@pitiedmold3581]

Bought a Seicento 1.1 F187 as my first car. I love it to bits. As a mechanic, I always keep a spare Timingbelt and Toolbox in the back of my fiat.

[@cliffthelightning]

I totalled my car recently and thought lets go basic. Got one and could not be happier.

[@giogio4833]

I just bought one from scrapyard.£150..so thought I'd tidy it up...New discs n pads £35.timing belt kit£36.track rod end £10.New shocker£12.full exhaust £55.New radiator £18.coil pack oil seal 50p.rear wheel bearing £14... turned out a tidy little car for a weekends work

[@MillerCorner]

Now that's a win! 👍

[@n1msu]

This was my first car 17 years ago ! I had a V reg sporting yellow! It was 6 years old when I got her. First video of yours I've seen, but great to see you helping keep the memory of her alive! That speedo mounted on the middle of the dash, with orange backlighting made me feel like Schumaker on the road with my 1.1 engine! Great memories!

[@YourUnlockedUni]

Any idea what the insurance was (estimated) for you first year?

[@n1msu]

​@@YourUnlockedUniI can't remember the exact figure but it was well in excess of over 1000pounds, 1400 is the figure that sticks in my head. What I paid isn't accurate for guessing how much it would cost today. Why don't you have a go making some online insurance quotes to see what you might pay.

[@christopher9727]

.... Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@AdamPRG96]

Must admit this video was probably the catalyst for buying my second Seicento last week! So good to be back in one. Thanks Miller Corner, and Happy Christmas !

[@MillerCorner]

Thanks bud 😁 enjoy it and happy Christmas to you and yours!

[@pio9919]

Hello Joe ! I just wanted to say that your videos are addicting. Greatings from Poland!

[@MillerCorner]

Thanks for watching bud 😁

[@charleskrutzen94]

Still not convinced. I’ve watched a lot of your videos, but the more I see Seicentos, and there are a LOT of them over here in the south east of The Netherlands, the more I like my Cinquecento SX. Thanks for many hours of great car videos!

[@baskikkert1842]

After i owned a Mazda RX8 for a while, i started to apriciate small, cheap and easy to work on cars. I loved the RX8 but parts were expensive and hard to find, and it used so much fuel i honestly thought there was a hole in the fuel tank.

[@MillerCorner]

I'm almost certain your tank was fine - they really are that bad! 😬

[@cliffthelightning]

I had a 95 Pontiac firebird in the netherlands, i feel you. Got a Seicento and put the change into getting a house. The Fiat is easily more fun to drive.

[@Bambusleitung38]

Omg I own an RX8 and I saw this tiny car yesterday and thought to myself that it would be a perfect economical/winter car that you can put a lot of kilometers on without the need to worry about anything

[@donaldtucker4914]

Good review. I think you covered all the main stuff. From experience I would add that the silver in front fog lights doesn't usually last long and rust on rear sub frame and bumper brackets worth checking for. Electric windows can be very slow on some cars and windscreen washer pumps seem to have a shortish life. Fantastic little cars though.

[@fossilfish786]

Great content bud. I saw a Michael Schumacher Edition driven by a old dear and man these are great cars. I want one.

[@Mamac2006]

a company i work at uses one of these, looks like S trim, has nothing but the top engine a bit run down, lots of little rust spots and scratches, suspension squeaks and rattles, but i love it anyway when i was starting out there it felt so fast, can't count how many close calls i had in it the good thing is it's not really that quick so for a beginner driver it's really as good as they come only real issues i had with it were blown fuse and starter motor that works again after push start

[@FuelPower]

Great buyers guide! Can certainly see why you love yours! The Sei was on my shortlist of potential first cars when looking for a car before I passed my driving test.

[@MillerCorner]

Thanks bud, gotta love 'em 😁

[@ndavies5968]

Really enjoyed learning about the fiat seicento. I almost bought one for £200 off a friend some years ago, but ended up getting into the mk2 polo breadvan as a project. My favourite engine I've had so far is the yaris Sr mk1 1.3 vvti engine they just don't die unless neglected, much like the seicento. Never failed to start first time everytime, even in - 6 winter. I'd did burn a lot of oil but I just see it as its getting new oil going through quite often by topping it up 😏

[@howardlake6178]

It was a fuse below! And it’s now done 33k. A second clutch cable snapped a couple of weeks ago, but apart from that, it could last forever! I do miss your videos, I popped by to see any ways I can preserve a 20 year old Fiat for another few years 😀

[@ow3nc]

I bought my 2003 1.1 Seicento in November 2019. It was going to be a second car to use for delivery driving. But after selling my VW golf to my uncle, I started using the Fiat full time. I love this little car. It's so fun to drive, and I have also driving all the way to central Europe (Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic) in it. No problems at all, but I wouldn't suggest driving it too hard on the autobahn. Just cruise and enjoy, even if it's a little noisy. ;)

[@acoaco-ue1bk]

Kakvo je ovo auto po zimskim uslovima i uz malo vece uspone?

[@Stardust3567]

​@@acoaco-ue1bk Tu ti kvalitet guma više igra ulogu nego sam auto.

[@acoaco-ue1bk]

@@Stardust3567 pa po mom misljenju jeste nekih 50% guma bitna

[@jrgengilhauge5345]

I have a Yellow Sporting from 1999.. And you are right, it´s very fun to drive :-)

[@TomRidley-fd2qz]

Love my sei,had it for more than 2 years now amazing car👍

[@keiranlees2235]

I Kept getting puddles in my passenger footwell. I could never figure out why! So happy to know the sunroof drainage trick. Thanks 🙏

[@MillerCorner]

Hope it cures it 😁

[@keiranlees2235]

@@MillerCorner just putting wheel arch liners on my Christmas list, thanks for the link.

[@PaulinhoThompson]

A very interesting car 👍 I'm tempted myself lol. A great video/guide as well Joe, thanks.

[@MillerCorner]

Cheers Paul, get involved! 😉

[@SkysaxonDragonslayer]

You forgot to mention that the rear axle can rust from inside and needs some attention against this every here and there... A big difference between the SX and the Sporting/Abarth/Schuhmacher is That the SX has a taller 5th gear - that’s why many who do engine swaps are looking for an SX gearbox... Btw - I prefer the MPI over the SPI, because they run smoother, are even more fuel efficient and feel a bit more powerful 😇 Driving Seicentos since 2002 (first a 899cc - now a 1.1 MPI SX which slowly turns into an Abarth) A few nice options you forgot to mention : Aircondition - Leather Seats (nice black/red trim) - opening rear windows... With all theses options a well kept car can reach the 2.000,-€... ABS and double Airbags where widely available in the MPI as well as Servo steering ... A very nice and easy engine swap for the MPI is the 1.2 16v from the Lancia Y or Fiat Punto with 85hp... Bolts on directly at the gearbox - the blackbox fits plug in at the wireing harness of the MPI So you just need that engine with Blackbox and ignition lock/key to win nearly 30hp!!! The electric sliding sunroof is a bit a pain in the ass when it comes to spareparts - especially the push/pull cables are hard to find ( ask me why I know this...😇😂) Final - lift the battery before you buy the car - many Centos are wrotten very badly under it!!! If you wanna have an all option car, buy one with AC and cut the sliding roof in - that’s much easier as mounting an AC afterwards... ( that my struggle now, to find all AC parts and built it in...)

[@dc-fc7tp]

Hey sorry to bother you considering the age of the comment, but you seem really informed on the topic. I'm looking to buy a 600 and here in Italy there are plenty of them. What defects of failures i should look for when examining one? Really appreciated thanks

[@SkysaxonDragonslayer]

@@dc-fc7tp look for rust! Especially around the rear axle the wheel housing and the trunk… If the body is fine everything else can be repaired very cheap.

[@dc-fc7tp]

@@SkysaxonDragonslayer thanks really appreciated

[@jamesduncan578]

Thanks for the info, I live in the states but if I was in the EU I certinally would love the Seicento.

[@dimitrispsarias5840]

Nice video thanks !! I bought mine used, I had several times a leakage somewhere on the cooling system, nothing else!! But many times, seriously.. always fixed properly and again somewhere else leaked. I would love seeing Fiat creating the same car ( size , style ) as a new retro one, with all the comforts of a new car. I would buy it for 9500 EUR.

[@wornoutracing]

Im a huge cinquecento fan (which you already know given the projects i have on the go !) but defintely still have love for the seicento too..had a red spi one as one of my first cars yeeears ago...maybe ill build a crazy one one at some point when the turbo cinq is finished 😁👍😎 who knows.

[@Adi.RS3]

little reminder the TaTechnix coillowers are pretty good for the price but the dampers in the rear start to squeak after a year so switch them out with spax or mts ones

[@kalistuh]

I had the oportunity to buy a cinquecento already with the 1.2 8v 75hp, but I was short on cash at the time... In the future, I may get one!

[@MillerCorner]

Do it!

[@MrRuv10]

Had a seceinto SX Y plate back in 2005 and ended up with the car for 4 years. Albeit being a student back then it took a fair amount of abuse by not sticking to the service regimes either. Had no problems with the electrics although needed new exhaust partly due to poor maintenance on my end. As you said parts generally cheap I could get 4 new tyres for under 250 quid - that’s the cost of one tyre on my current car now!

[@13CoBrA95]

Not sure if the Cinquecento and Seicento share the same brake setup, but my Cinquecento has the best handbrake I've ever experienced in a car. If the cable is new and adjusted properly, that thing turns into a literal drift brake. I need 1, max 2 clicks of the lever for the car to stop. Pull that thing while driving and the wheels lock instantly.

[@carlosimbula2481]

Bought a black Seicento Abarth a few days ago. Specially equipped with 1.2 p75 engine. And also super cool with leather interior, sports steering wheel, stainless steel exhaust, carbon air intake, etc. Very nice to be able to drive a Fiat again after 30 years. You can watch my adventures in rally report 1994. My question is can you fit the tires you recommend, 195/45 r14, on the Abarth rims. It makes a difference of 2 cm compared to the 175/50 R14 tires that are currently on it.....In other words, can the rims handle this width?

[@itsmephil2255]

Brilliant vid Joe....really enjoyed that

[@MillerCorner]

Cheers Phil 😁

[@itsmephil2255]

@@MillerCorner 👌

[@sk1shot]

I own a Fiat Seicento Actual (2004). 2000€, she had like over 8.000 miles and she was in really good conditions. Any suggestions on speaker replacements? The ones I have were from an older Seicento but they’re pretty lame tbf. I can’t actually do any heavy modifications, but i was thinking about wrapping up the plastic plates on the AC. Love your content, plus it seems like you’re the only one doing vids about these great cars

[@luigivetuschi5246]

on the MPi euro 3 600 if you brake the belt you will bend the valve only on the euro 2 SPi and back

[@simonmiller5165]

Good review. Wish I had never sold my abarth. Great car.

[@gregoryweeks5749]

I got one actually after watching! Good car. Only thing is the speakers have a lot of static when i turn the stereo. Did anyone manage to stop the white noise?

[@hjn123]

Thanks for the review

[@paths2go]

Great review, thanks!

[@Jameshoward999]

Facelift was april 2001 was it?

[@velobob4299]

Worth having a good look at the rear subframe. 🧐

[@mariecox6901]

I just bought a abarth seicento with just 30k miles

[@mariecox6901]

Ik

[@mariecox6901]

Although it's got rusty side skirts I have nabbed some of my mates he doesn't like them his is gonna be scrapped because the repairs are to much

[@markellis4229]

I taken my pass plus in fiat 500 1.2 in 2009 and I was surprised how nippy it was

[@sgdtv1368]

Nice video Would you do one installing the rear arch lines if you haven’t already

[@MillerCorner]

We'll doubtless do it on this car at some stage!

[@sgdtv1368]

@@MillerCorner haha good want to get my dad some for Christmas 😂

[@tomdoesnowt]

It is so hard to find a decent one! They were used and abused, even worse than saxo's in some cases.

[@MillerCorner]

Too true! Most are either utterly ruined or a low mileage minter belonging to an old person!

[@OdykKayne]

Way to make me want one even more despite the fact I can't easily get them here! :(

[@MillerCorner]

25 years is the rule, right? Only three years to go! ;)

[@OdykKayne]

@@MillerCorner Actually, it's 15 here in Canada! :D

[@MillerCorner]

Then what are you waiting for?! 😉

[@humzaiqbal5469]

@@OdykKayne get one then

[@OdykKayne]

@@humzaiqbal5469 I live in canada, and they were never sold here. I would only be able to get one by importing it, which is a fairly expensive and long process :(

[@bscainebees9748]

Hello joe, great videos I enjoy them very much. Where can I find online customized parts for this car? All the best mate!

[@MillerCorner]

Depends what you're after bud, but forums and clubs are a great place to start 😁

[@AndresBruurs]

Great buying guide 😊👍. I'm thinking about buying one as a daily driver. One concern: I'm not sure if it's okay to use E10 ( 10% ethanol) feul 🤔. It's a Seicento from 2000 with euro 2, engine code 176B2.000. Owner say it's fine ( but of course he wants to sell his car ), different website one claims build after 2000 is no problem, other site claims build after 2000 and euro 3. So I hope perhaps you have some experience driving with E10 ? Thanks in advance.

[@MillerCorner]

I've only ever put E10 in since the introduction of it, but my fuel tank is brand new - I'd say run an in-line filter, redex your tank out to clean it and keep an eye on the state of your hoses and you'll be fine 😁

[@AndresBruurs]

@@MillerCorner thanks for the advice and quick response 😊👍

[@Stardust3567]

I've had Seicento for 15 years. It's an amazing car. If it's driven normally and maintained regularly it will never let you down. It is also important to buy it in good condition. The only thing to pay attention to is the alternator. It's best to change it every 50,000 kilometers and you have nothing to worry about.

[@keiranlees2235]

Great video... although I do like an msc edition.

[@aslandama]

Really good overall guide Joe, had three and still own two. Been having problems sourcing new "right hand drive" headlamps, loads of left hand drive on ebay. Any ideas?

[@MillerCorner]

Second hand is probably your best bet 🤔

[@humzaiqbal5469]

I have an abarth that im breaking. Ican sell the headlights off that if youre interested

[@Thundercloud1969]

Hey m8, i stumbled across this video of yours and i just loved it! I recently bought a Yellow Abarth version from 2001, in very good condition. Only problem i have is that my speedometer is not working properly. I did read it can be a the connector on the gearbox or the speedometer itself. Got any tips/advice or anything that can help me on the way of getting it to work again? I keep an eye on your video's, thanks for sharing and greetings from the Netherlands.

[@_generation_youth_x28]

CAN YOU PLEASE DO 2007 sport clio imusic campus vs your car 👐🏻👐🏻👐🏻👐🏻👐🏻I’m eying up a yellow sporting but me and sister share a blue metallic sport clio as said above,what do I choose?which is more fun? Which is more practical

[@elan2302]

I think that it is Fiats venerable (not vulnerable) engine, {1.18}.

[@MillerCorner]

That'll be my accent 😉

[@MaritzaMeyer-zs5xx]

Please help as with shocks and a steering rack fiat seicento sport 1.1 we in south africa. Thanks.

[@ndavies5968]

Miller Corner, I know you won't because it's not Italian, but I'd love it if you done a project Toyota starlet, not a glanza, just a bog standard 1.3. I still see them on the roads today sometimes, speaks for itself really 💪

[@MillerCorner]

I do like a Starlet, but one small fwd nugget is enough for now 😉

[@ndavies5968]

@@MillerCorner 👍

[@GTAPanos]

I had one for a year, it was very poorly maintained (not a sporting mind you, it had suspension problems, mechanical wheel, really old and neglected), but still fun. Is a newer, better maintained Seicento good for long trips, or is it too noisy and an all around pain?

[@davidghiro99]

Thank you bro❤️

[@mathis_super]

Hi, do you know if this car has a steering assistance (electric or hydraulic)? Thanks :)

[@howardlake6178]

Hello Miller! My 19k Sporting has now done 26k. I drove the wheels off it for a week to see the mpg. 39.83! Yesterday I noticed the cigar lighter wasn't working for charging my phone. Then the HVAC isn't working either. Any ideas? Seems like fuses to me....many thanks 😀

[@MillerCorner]

They share a fuse, change it 😁

[@howardlake6178]

Thanks for the sage advice as always. Tried the fuse today, and it seems the problem is not the fuse. My Fiat expert who has a Seicento, said it could be a burnt out motor. Any way, the car is still epic 😀

[@arthurdardalis]

Great video. Talking about electrics.... Start mine, all warning lights are off, switch dipped beam on and the ABS light comes on. Switch off engine, start the engine again, the ABS light is on!!! Numerous garages cannot trace the fault... Any idea?

[@humzaiqbal5469]

The handbrake switch is probs faulty. If you pull handbrake up, there is a white button under the lever, press it and watch the dash lights. if it stays on, the switch needs replacing

[@a11csc]

love mine

[@kingrawb4745]

Do you know the Seicento 50th Anniversary Edition? Is it any different? I'm considering buying a used one.

[@lukecharles3880]

Absolutely love my little seicento, I can't seem to find those rear arch liners you were describing though, could I get a link to some? If they're still available to buy?

[@MillerCorner]

Link in the description 😁

[@lukecharles3880]

@@MillerCorner Thanks man, are these them? I can't seem to find them on that site lol 😅 www.tarostrade.com/rear-inner-plastic-fender-77275/po/fiat-seicento-12001-61999

[@MillerCorner]

They are indeed!

[@lukecharles3880]

@@MillerCorner awesome thank you! I'll have to look into how to fit them ahah

[@lukecharles3880]

@@MillerCorner Hi Again! Just a quick update, I know this was a while ago but I've sprayed waxoyl under the rear arches after wire brushing and cleaning them as much as possible! They're all protected now so thank you very much for this video as I would have not even considered this issue without it being brought up ahaha

[@adrianador]

well be nice if you develope more info about punto block swap ... im intrested to do that and and get more info from you

[@MillerCorner]

Check out my engine swap video, bud 😁

[@adrianador]

@@MillerCorner ok i watch it i got a question if I do wat you dan in this video but keep stock exist manyfold all be fine my version is MPI (sx), model so don't stand out to insurance purposes... did you dyno test it ? ever if got 75 bhp? or fells it better to respond on driving over the stock bottom block?

[@adrianador]

and can you give a code for 1242 engine as i found many ... types in yers production thx mate :) f

[@wickedsnake8032]

will you buy performance sway bar for your yellow seicento

[@MillerCorner]

I'm not sure any exist 😬

[@wickedsnake8032]

@@MillerCorner I think you can reuse punto gt one...but maybe I'am wrong

[@humzaiqbal5469]

@@MillerCorner OMP make them, i have them on mine

[@humzaiqbal5469]

I got an Abarth for my first car, cost me 1400

[@lesleyann9418]

my 17 year old daughter has inherited a super low mileage red seicento sx, (52 reg) how can i get her to accept its a great car, she doesn't think it looks cute enough and says it makes her thunk of postman pat ;). Also she's tall like me and the front seat base is a bit short on the thigh. Any suggestions greatly appreciated

[@MrRuv10]

I had an SX back in my time of uni and must say the car was reliable overall and only let me know due to poor maintenance on my end. I also passed my practical in it and had a great time owning it. It’s probably not the best looking car but good for a first car. I had no issues with the seat and the pedals being so close to one another is something one gets used to.

[@Ext246]

My mom bought a 2018 FIAT PUNTO

[@admiralalcatraz6080]

My question is this..... I am 6ft6, will I fit in a 'cento? I want one. I drove a Panda, and despite it driving nicely, the only way I would be comfortable is if I didn't have any shoulders...

[@krimm1450]

I am the same size, my friend has a seicento sporting and I fit in it no problem. Seat is all the way maxed out in the passenger seat and the driver seat is a little better but otherwise no issues.

[@visitperaiagreece]

I have a 1999 Fiat Seicento. Does anyone know of anywhere online where I can find a manual for it?

[@archiebishop5422]

What is the pcd of the wheels

[@MillerCorner]

4x98 - you can fit 4x100 wheels with wobble bolts 😁

[@jamesphilpott4241]

Mi seicento had 105mph out mine. Was 98 1.1 modle. I beat it every wear dint drink much fuel

[@ale_pavs1229]

5k to get one in Italy....

[@Jameshoward999]

Damn you didn’t mention the safety!!!!

[@Jameshoward999]

@Stavros yeah fiat were making the multipla with 6 airbags then they made the sei and thought ‘yeah let’s just give them the one’

[@Jameshoward999]

@nh73 man the base has no airbags at least in UK and no passenger airbag

[@Jameshoward999]

@nh73 true but wouldn’t want to have a collision with a 2020 Land Rover defender

[@MillerCorner]

Not to worry - the Land Rover won't be running long enough to have an accident!

[@Jameshoward999]

@@MillerCorner hahaha

[@ar12.]

Just don’t crash at all unless you Want to die even at 40km/h.

[@MillerCorner]

Had a crash with a lorry in mine. Very much still alive.

[@ar12.]

@@MillerCorner good lord what speed was that at the crash test show the thing folding in like a paper box

[@kzed]

@@MillerCorner Was the lorry broken??

[@carlosimbula2481]

Truck crash into mine...that sounds serious. I once shot straight straight into an earth wall. Due to the low net weight, there was actually little damage. So things can turn out better with this car.

[@finleyplympton]

1st

[@s.g.1969]

Finally you get some hairdresser xDDD

[@yoavcohen7970]

You sound like Tristan Tate

[@mrmarcuscars2072]

Wow, you talk to fast.