Fiberon PPS-CF - Is It The Best Filament | EDGE OF 3D

[@thegps7197]

Been waiting for an impact test of the PPS CF. Thanks. I exclusively design and print rc planes where impact resistance is important. Glad i saw this as il stick to polylite ABS/ASA. Cheers

[@EDGEOF3D]

Material would be good for RC until the sudden stop at the end, then it may not fair so well. I'm going to be testing all of the lineup in the coming weeks, my impact tester is getting digital upgrade over the next week (assuming my Arduino coding skills haven't been lost to time).

[@AmixLiark]

Why not tough PC by polymaker?

[@thegps7197]

​@EDGEOF3D yeah the sudden stop at the end is generally my problem.😂 definately would be interested in the entire line up. My experience is that fibre filaments improve stiffness and tensile but not impact or layer adhesion, also cf causes havoc with rf signals.

[@thegps7197]

​@@AmixLiarkcertainly have printed with polymax pc. In my use case I haven't seen any improvement over abs/asa, as a 30-40mph hard landing just breaks both materials, but least abs is cheaper and quicker to print a new one.

[@legacyofbob]

This seems about right as CF or GF is going to add rigidity which would also add brittleness. Would like to see a bend test and maybe even a crush test on this stuff. Thanks for taking the time to make the video!

[@EDGEOF3D]

Bend test is in the works, crush test.... I'll need to research that and see what I can design at a hobbyist level.

[@n00bhash79]

Have you tried Bambu Labs new PPA-CF? The specs are crazy high.

[@neilxpeart]

I'm really looking forward to giving this material a try. I 3d print snare drums and the acoustic properties of pps-cf seem pretty unreal for a polymer.

[@nytemare0371]

This material looks impressive. I tried to purchase from the site but looks like it is not active yet. This looks awesome. Appreciate your videos nice job.

[@EDGEOF3D]

Polymaker is running behind on the launch, I apologize, I confirmed the time late last night and was told 1200 EDT today was locked in but it appears someone lost the key to the lock.

[@nytemare0371]

@@EDGEOF3D thanks I figured that it is new and still working out all the web site activations

[@lock3ddown883]

I just got my roll yesterday and been printing like crazy. I'll be leaving a review on Amazon with photos but man is this stuff crazy. Prints absolutely beautiful on my q1 pro. Downloaded profile right off polymaker website and it's perfect. Been printing at 300mms with no issues. the look on people's faces when they hear plastic clink like metal haha. I'm printing voron parts to see how it goes. So far looks amazing and parts fit great right off the bed. Printing the extruder first as it has the tightest tolerances . But I think where it's gonna matter is the mounts and gantry assembly. Great video and hope to see more tests. Gonna use it more for car audio and parts for under the hood. This is gonna replace my ASA-CF. .

[@EDGEOF3D]

I have just finished building a 2.4 R2 out of PPS-CF. One thing I will tell you when it comes to the extruder, if you're using a SB with CW2, the latch for the top will not work in PPS-CF, this has to flex a little bit to "latch" around the M3 screw. I tried it with unannealed after the annealed proved to be too stiff and still was not able to make it work so I made these parts out of PET-CF. Other than that, the rest of the printer in PET-CF and anything inside the chamber has been annealed at 125°C for 16 hours.

[@liamventer]

TLA stands for Three Letter Acronym as well.

[@nytemare0371]

@Edgeof3D I was able to order later Thursday evening when it was released. I received my filament on Saturday. FYI it is available on Amazon as that is how it was shipped to me.

[@EDGEOF3D]

All Polymaker filament in the US and Canada comes from Amazon. Polymaker utilizes Amazon FBA service, so Amazon warehouses and ships all Polymaker's orders.

[@Dustmuffins]

I think a good test for determining if it's a good material to build a printer out of would be a creep test. My Tech Fun has a good methodology for testing creep with their C bending test.

[@donnyinalaska]

What would be your thoughts on a filament used to hold up radar screens on a boat , knowing that UV and saltwater is bad for most plastics ?

[@EDGEOF3D]

Honestly, I would think ASA would be a great option since it's UV stable. PET-CF might be okay but I don't know how long it will hold up.

[@donnyinalaska]

@@EDGEOF3D , appreciate the feedback...

[@truantray]

​@@EDGEOF3Dany polymer will break down with UV exposure.

[@EDGEOF3D]

And ASA is specifically formulated with UV Inhibitors to lessen/slow the effects of UV exposure.

[@lililililililili8667]

It says 1080p 60fps but looks like I'm watching an infomercial 20 on a tube tv 20 years in the past. Will this filament print properly in a bambulabs x1c?

[@EDGEOF3D]

This filament needs a hot end capable of at least 320°C (350°C is better) and as far as I know, the Bambu will not go that high. I wouldn't try running it through the AMS either, it will eat up everything, it's like feeding diamond cutting cable through the system.

[@livedeliciously]

Any plans to perform real world HDT testing?

[@EDGEOF3D]

Yes, the lab oven will be here one/around the 14th of Aug and I will start doing some testing then. Right now my toaster oven is not up to the task, it's not accurate enough with temperatures.

[@paintballercali]

Is the printer you used to print the pps cf using a abs tool head?

[@EDGEOF3D]

Polymaker Galaxy ASA on my toolhead.

[@paintballercali]

@@EDGEOF3D awesome thanks for the answer. I haven't seen many people use this stuff. I need to convert my voron to run it. It's printed in polymaker abs and a dragon hotend. I already put a 450 heater on it. So maybe I can just send it need to do more research

[@EDGEOF3D]

@@paintballercali You should be just fine with that setup to go to 350°c

[@EDGEOF3D]

@@paintballercali I have a twitter, same name, but I really don't post anything there.

[@Justin-fk1fh]

I appreciate what you do! I am just getting into 3D printing. I am a truck driver and want to do some things for trucking. I'm very interested in the carbon fiber. I'm having trouble finding a printer that can print at higher temp than 300*. I currently have a Bambu P1S. do you have any recommendations?

[@EDGEOF3D]

Honestly, I don't know of any off the shelf solutions that would fit the bill being bounced around in a truck all day. I'm sure there are some out there than can do over 300°C but I'm not familiar enough with any of them to make any kind of educated/informed recommendations.

[@awildridehome9469]

The Qidi Q1 Pro can do 350C nozzle, 60 heated chamber and 120 bed temp, all for around 400$ USD.

[@allengeary5595]

I wish it was cheaper so people can easily buy it

[@Killa_Prints]

The white balance on the video makes it difficult to see the lines you're drawing.

[@EDGEOF3D]

I was drawing them in pencil so they wouldn't have showed up anyway without a lot of post processing work, that is why I posted a picture after the fact with the lines redrawn in ink.

[@christianlainesse4281]

I assume this filament sheds less carbon fiber? Did you check your finger skin for broken fibers?

[@EDGEOF3D]

Fibers in Filament are encapsulated during the manufacturing process, so there wouldn't be any fibers getting into one's skin, eyes, airway unless you're doing something like griding, cutting or sanding. Then the amount of microplastics being released into the air could very well be the bigger concern.

[@philippruedi7301]

@@EDGEOF3Dplease watch nathan builds robots video on this topic. Youd be surprised….

[@UnfiItered]

​@@EDGEOF3Dyou would think that they're encapsulated during the manufacturing process but no. Go watch Nathan Build Robot video on this subject. He tested both filament and printed cf impregnated filament. Unless you do the research yourself, you can't just trust the corporations that is trying to sell you a product.

[@EDGEOF3D]

With everything else in our world (or at least mine) that I'm exposed to every day, the incredibly minuscule amount of fiber that I may or may not be exposed to from filament is the least of my concerns. Anyone can take a subject and skew it to the results they are seeking for the purpose of sensationalizing a subject or creating unneeded and unnecessary fears. I've not watched the video in question and likely never will, it piques no interest of mine in any way.

[@truantray]

​@@EDGEOF3Dso....we just ostrich our heads like we did with asbestos? No, the carbon fibers are not "encapsulated" , that's a lie. Your comment is staggeringly ignorant. The CF manufacturing industry is very careful about gloves and masks but the finished product is encapsulated in resin. Just another guy in a shed trying to get clicks for a sponsor.

[@giannagiavelli5098]

I used pc cf if it's much stronger

[@3dexperiments]

I'm a lot less interested in trying any CF filaments after Nathan Builds Robots video about all the debris it produces while printing and handling.

[@EDGEOF3D]

Everything has hazards associated with it so care and safety should be taken into consideration with any filament, not just fiber reinforced products.

[@thegps7197]

Would be interested in seeing more info on what NBR brought up. If anything it highlights the materials downsides, and should make people think more on how to use this material and in what products

[@EDGEOF3D]

Unfortunately that is not any of the testing I will be doing. I'm dealing with stress/functional testing.

[@AmixLiark]

To be clear, carbon filled filaments are best suited for tool jigs and brackets/joiners. They aren't aesthetically pleasing or used in many applications that require constant handling that in aware of. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[@RoofusKit]

There's been a lot of actual scientific research about that subject and it has shown Nathan is wrong. Unless you are cutting or sanding the materials (which you should be wearing a respirator for no matter the plastic you are using) then you are not going to inhale any of the large fibers in filaments.