Nietzsche vs Dostoevsky: Goodness vs Greatness

[@Fiction_Beast]

I really enjoyed making this video. Dostoevsky and Nietzsche are two of my favorite writers. Who do you want me to compare next? Leave a comment below. My video on Nietzsche's core philosophy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnOwh5-mgq2daMk Dostoevsky videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLyKyeehuJVIHt5RkSYxpS2OTkttSfdi-f

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It would be wiser to go back to your day job.

[@Danniel-o4w]

Camus and Kafka 🤪

[@fewdose6674]

Make a video describing all the different types of philosophy for the beginners. It would be a great help✨

[@Fiction_Beast]

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[@xxcoopcoopxx]

@@fewdose6674 Bertrand Russell's did it already. Bertrand Russell's - History of Western Philosophy.

[@MrCementer88]

Fun fact: Edvard Munch made that painting of Nietzsche in the same colours as of the famous "Scream". When Munch died(in his bed), they found the book Demons by Dostoevsky on his night table.

[@lancehaseltine494]

That seems to be more than one fun fact.

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@@lancehaseltine494 two for one deal

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@@BrandonMitchell10205 the best I ever had

[@like31000]

Nietzsche says that goodness is irrelevant, but Dostoevskij never says that greatness is irrelevant. Dostoevskij will forever remain my favourite.

[@believer1571]

Nietzsche says that it is irrelevant for a human's mind. It is unprofitable. Greatness for Nietzsche is overstepping the human's mind by seeming irrelevant in people's eyes. Nietzsche was a dreamer yet very realistic in his thoughts. He wanted to absorb the world and analyse it as the whole. But we are not yet ready for this. We are staying on the bridge of evolution and seems like the finish line is around the many corners. But anyway Dostoevsky's philosophy makes me thinking as much as Nietzsche does.

[@campbellpaul]

There is a distinct difference, however, between goodness and greatness. Goodness can merely be emulated, where greatness is related to heroics. The 'hero' outlives his years in the minds and hearts of whom he has affected, and is largely what Nietzsche is searching for in his philosophical quest.

[@yogi2436]

After a life of seeking greatness, and having seen the consequences, I have come to appreciate that goodness is the far more valuable of the two.

[@kamikazeblackjack]

I feel like that it's greatness only good to us when we younge and crave excitement and adventure but older we get more we crave stability and family just how many successful people end up being horrible parents because they only chase greatness in their life​@@yogi2436

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[@sweetbabytrae]

I HIGHLY recommend the MartyrMade Podcast’s episode entitled “The Underground Spirit” which compares how similar both of their lives were and the how the choices they made caused their thoughts to diverge. Absolutely incredible and helped me find my faith again.

[@Martyrmade]

Wow, that means a lot. Thank you.

[@moondog9717]

Yeah, that episode is goated

[@nubojin]

I came back here to tell you the biggest thanks! Now I’m totally haunted by fate and horse

[@seerack24suchalad63]

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[@itskeagan3004]

@@seerack24suchalad63 listen to it in parts that’s what I do ffs 😂

[@r.w.bottorff7735]

My experiences through life have taught me that each, Dostoevsky and Nietzsche, have an important role to play: the spiritual and passionate.

[@TairKuzhekov]

I think it is significant to add that Dostoevsky did not know that his death punishment would be changed to the 4 years of exile in Siberia right until the troopers were reading death sentence ready to shoot and got letter from emperor. Imagine that you wait for 2 month for any hope to come and eventually give up on your life at the execution day with covered face, ready to be shot, but suddenly get another chance to live... Truly divine

[@JohnAbellanosa12]

The most interesting thing about this is, in 26:18, Nietzsche's philosophy has a striking similarity to Raskolnikov's in Dostoevsky's book "Crime and Punishment" where he talks to Petrovich about his article "on crime" where he also separates human beings into two categories, and places the "Extraordinary" people above the rest, and compares them to Napoleon and Newton and so on. He says that these people have complete justification in their moral consciousness to stomp out the weak in order to achieve greatness for the rest of the population.

[@MuhammadAhmad-li3xo]

exactly what i noticed

[@troynixon8497]

Yes definitely think so. Chronologically it couldn't have been Nietzsche that c and p was referring too, he just saw this way of thinking in some types of intellectuals. Unrivaled prescience 👏

[@fourtoedhedgehog9412]

Great video. I also recommend the essay entitled "Nietzche and Dostoevsky", written by Serbian bishop St. Nikolaj Velimirovic (I think that english translation could be found on the internet).

[@fyodordostoevsky166]

here's the english translation :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH2mdKKhmrari7c&ab_channel=garavid%C5%BEo

[@kazimierzgaska5304]

I recommend you "Dostoevsky and Nietzsche. Philosophy of Tragedy" by Lev Shestov. Raskolnikov as a alter-ego of that poor author, dreaming about courage to be a sun of a ***! Very interesting.

[@laviniacampisi8131]

I always found many of my ideas about reality in Dostoevskij's novels. Even if I really like Nietzsche's way of thinking, I feel a way stronger connection with Dostoeveskij's personality. (Sorry for my English, I'm Italian)

[@michaelmcchicken8199]

U did fine bro

[@Fiction_Beast]

Your English is fine mate. Yes Dostoevsky understood humans.

[@kalakritistudios]

Sorry for my Italian, I am an Indian.

[@Dunge0n]

I just can't forgive him for saying he would force himself to 'believe' in Jesus, even if he realized Christianity to be false one day. I understand he was just saying how he felt, and can even understand the desperation, but it forces me to reevaluate much of his work.

[@mikemcnut3204]

You’re missing the point, that statement itself affirms his belief in Christianity and Jesus. It’s a statement that rings true today, as our secular society disproves Christ every moment. True faith means believing in Jesus even if the world says he wasn’t real.

[@simonaclutter3138]

Masterpiece. I’m so drawn to this channel. I’ve listened to this video 3 times already.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Wow, thank you!

[@cheri238]

With the deepest appreciation and respect for your channel. I have listened and grown with your wisdom of philosophy, religious divisions, sciences, histories, and great literature, languages, and and I thank you. Art, music, are the glues that hold our world together. People are only human. Human nature 101.

[@dinoadamopoulos9824]

What an absolute perfect summary and explanation of the two avenues of philosophy one’s soul can take. Brilliant and masterfully put together. Bravo. Well done my friends.

[@the_nerd_showtv5562]

This video is a masterpiece, I've read Dostoevsky one years ago, and Nietzche a little before, and I truly love the way you summarized their philosophy... One time, an angry guy shout me that these two colossus were incompatible, but, you proved he was wrong, thank you. (sorry for my bad english I'm still learning)

[@Fiction_Beast]

Really appreciate your comment. Your english is fine, so don't let is stand in your way.

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[@Fiction_Beast]

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[@Ya_Gotta_Laugh]

Thanks!

[@phillipchavez1321]

📝 4:01-4:07 Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche.. differing viewpoints 4:29-5:00 Nietzsche’s lacking male role model 09:24-10:29 Nietzsche: thinking while walking --------+------- 18:35-19:34 The problem of reason on meaning -Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky 25:47-26:44 Differences in philosophies: Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche 27:09-27:50 Nietzsche on art 30:02-30:40 philosophies for when low on resources vs when in abundance of resources --------+------- 31:43-33:18 philosophies for when low on resources vs when in abundance of resources 33:41-34:12 35:11-35:35 35:37-36:26-37:21 Goodness and greatness: both needed in the world & the purpose of life 38:02-38:41 Antidotes to life: Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky

[@rv.9658]

What's particularly admirable about Nietzsche was how he managed to appreciate Dostoevsky and cling to his anti-Christian, anti-religious sentiment at the same time. That's exactly the balance I hope to strike by the time I'm done reading Karamazov. (Although it's unknown whether Nietzsche himself read any of his 4 main novels.)

[@uncleusuh]

I highly doubt Nietzsche read the brothers Karamazov. It seems more than out of the question to assume you can be anti-Christian (like Nietzsche) while reading that damn book. It’s just my two cents.

[@artofthepossible7329]

I know The Idiot was first translated into German a couple of months before The Anti-Christ was published, and while I don't know when TBK was first translated into German, the first English translation was in 1912. So I would bet Nietzsche was either in his insane period at best, or was a corpse when TBK could have been read in a language he knew.

[@harryjones84]

agreed but Dostoyevsky was comparatively SUCH an enlightened christian but if you think of Nietzsche's time that wasn't the mindset or personality of the predominance of Christian's so you can see why he rallied against it so much

[@ASmartNameForMe]

​@@uncleusuhI read that book. Loved it. Still an atheist though. It's not unreasonable

[@voxlknight2155]

​​@@harryjones84Nietzsche lived surrounded by Protestants and Papists, whose faiths are flawed and untrue. Dostoevsky was an Orthodox Christian, and I think more people should learn about Orthodoxy. It handly answers what neither Protestantism nor Papism can.

[@SuperSonicFan172]

Both magnificent authors, each with deep philosophical meanings, but never with the absolute truth. They both hold a fragment of the solution in their works, and that is one of the main problems with society nowadays: Balance. Ideas are almost always led to the extreme due to human flaw.

[@meeksthessj4]

Balance. 👌🏽 You are in point with that critique

[@saintburnsy2468]

Bold of you to proclaim who does and does not have the "absolute truth" (or that such a thing exists)... SuperSonic172

[@SuperSonicFan172]

@@saintburnsy2468 I really wonder why so many people denote my nick with such disdain, as if that alone invalidates the objective facts I comment.

[@magikbullet5570]

"He who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. He should not expect to recieve anything from the lord. He is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways." James 1:6-8

[@michaelgregor1640]

@@magikbullet5570 Eschewing doubt seems like the path of fanaticism.

[@mikemcnut3204]

This video made me tear up. The way Dostoevsky found his faith in exile is so beautiful. It makes me cry just thinking of the suffering he endured in exile, and the light he found in our Lord God. For the love of God, don’t wait until your last moments to find Christ. The love of Jesus is so fulfilling that to go without it is like going without water.

[@thusspokezarathustra1847]

"Slave Morality"

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

@@thusspokezarathustra1847 You made it so I could like the other posts. "Slave Morality" is correct under certain contexts, but modern moralistic thought is far from stupid or worthless.

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Your dry humor in various videos is very funny and makes the videos a lot more enjoyable.

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Thanks!

[@Fiction_Beast]

Welcome!

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[@supremereader7614]

Beautiful video, keep making videos like this and you could probably get paid subscribers. But maybe a little shorter, I’ve noticed that people tend to like shorter videos.

[@Fiction_Beast]

I really appreciate the support and your tip is also a great one. I have to learn to make shorter videos!

[@nachiket2211]

Hey man! I'm totally in love with your vids, especially the ones about Russian literature. This one here was great as well. Keep up the good work. Compliments from an admirer from India.❤️

[@andreasdejong1846]

I believe that people are always looking for conflict even if they don't realize it. If preventing conflicts then is impossible, the trick would be to keep the small conflicts going so they remain small. That's why I am a defender of free speech, even if that is not politically, or scientifically correct speec. At the moment I fear the existence of social bubbles that people are subconsciously yet actively creating around them. This is leading to growing calls to limit the free flowing of ideas. Ideas that differ from the most-commonly accepted ideas. When we stop discussing things we will eventually have no way to pick up a discussion again. It is fine when like-minded people gather and share information about topics that interest them, but it is dangerous if that group of people sees some entity as a common enemy or represents some form of evil themselves in the eyes of someone else. Nowadays it is easy to block people with different viewpoints from taking part in conversations and this leads to information getting filtered through an ideological lens. A filter managed by the people you follow, protecting you from harmful information before this information has a chance to reach you. The more activistic the nature of the topic is, the more sensitive people are when it comes to dealing with criticism. This makes people quicker to block others and more eager to look for a source of positive affirmation. People are quick to realize that more radical and outspoken statements will be more efficient in attracting positive affirmation, so people gradually start to use a harder tone when they express their opinions. At some point the moderate statements don't get any attention at all so people will stop posting them. All information that is circulating within a bubble at that point is coming from people who are subconsciously training eachother to believe radical ideas are good ideas. If every person lives in a bubble of like-minded people with increasingly radical ideas I don't see how society will deal with that. At some point people just won't understand anymore how others don't see what they are seeing.

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[@Reza090]

I find some of the paintings in the video to be absolutely great..I noticed a description for some of them in the video which I think is a great idea. Its visually informative. Thanks.

[@elijahmassey2355]

This is such a helpful summary of each philosopher's ideas! And the facial hair note was important for scholars like myself.

[@BrightGarlick]

Magnificent analysis of two very different and very inspiring writers! Perhaps a comparison of Mark Twain and Charles Dickens!

[@Fiction_Beast]

Twain vs Dickens sounds intriguing.

[@BrightGarlick]

@@Fiction_Beast yes 2 worlds, 2 views of mankind the idiot and the greedy and the suffering, from 2 very different but similar sorts of family loving kind men! 😉👍

[@Woodland_Warrior]

Fantastic video, very well thought out. I’ve really been getting into Nietzsche lately, in great part thanks to videos like this. Thanks!

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thank you!

[@Dohnjoe5940]

dont, you'll end up like him.

[@Woodland_Warrior]

@@Dohnjoe5940 How so?

[@Dohnjoe5940]

@@Woodland_Warrior Because there is no wisdom in his words, fantasize about becoming the ubermensch if you want. fancy yourself bold for the sake of the real truth. In the end you and this entire world will turn into dust just like the rest of us, and you will have missed the entire point of existence. That's why Nietzche went crazy. Everyone choosing their own values other than what society asks, just makes impossible to live in harmony, and its just following an ideology, not the truth.

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

It’s more like our feelings of guilt are part of what it is to be human. So if we live our lives in a way that seriously harms others it is human and good for us to feel guilty. But we also must learn how we can forgive ourselves and move forward. That which does not kill you only makes you stronger, don’t let your guilt kill you.

[@calbraid3328]

Great content, Fiction Beast. This is the first I've seen of your work. I'm gonna go watch the Tolstoy one now. This one really summarized the fundamental differences between the two men and I think you nailed it. Great insights. Thanks!

[@aaradhyamandloi9265]

Absolutely beautiful comparison and precise articulation.

[@johntorri9172]

Thank you. Been looking forward to a video heading down these two greats!

[@HusseinAli-jc5pc]

Thank you so much, that was entertaining very informative, definitely subscribed to your channel. You're like the philosophy teacher that I've never had.

[@aaronhume5335]

Winning isn't the only thing, it is everything

[@bingflosby]

I have multiple sclerosis I am being disconnected from the physical form Nietzsche had an unknown illness with very similar symptoms and life experiences I love all the videos explaining his philosophy and life

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thanks for sharing. You're welcome.

[@nadaroshan4022]

I have read about Nietzsche illness and it wasn't MS, it was neurosyphilis, got it from trivial realation with a whore .

[@mmyr8ado.360]

It's brain cancer

[@hermesnoelthefourthway]

Nietzsche said Dostoyevsky was the greatest find of his life, and the greatest psychologist ever. In Thus spake Zarathustra The pale warrior character in book one is modelled on Dostoyevsky. When Lou Salome rejected him he was unable to handle it and this was instrumental in his breakdown. Salome went on to become the Muse of Rilke

[@henrywolf5332]

She was a seductress who rode many coat tails. Stringing men along as a way to capture them and their ideas.

[@hermesnoelthefourthway]

@@henrywolf5332 whipping them along , if the photo of Nietzsche and the cart is anything to go by ! It's their own fault for being such simps. No good blaming Ms. Salome

[@henrywolf5332]

@@hermesnoelthefourthway I don't blame her, however I won't simp either lol. You got me with the pic haha

[@hermesnoelthefourthway]

@@henrywolf5332 hi , I got a bit of a shock when I first read your reply , as I thought you were referring to a women I've just been thru a terrible situation with (bit similar to Nietzsche and Salome ) although mine sent me rather raunchy semi-naked photos , and then said , don't forget we're just friends!!!!!! I made a film about it , which has proved to be very popular. It was a brutal experience to have to go thru. How anyone can deceive a good man so much is beyond human understanding.

[@hermesnoelthefourthway]

@@henrywolf5332 I've just watched your video. It is really superb. Is that you doing the dancing. Looks like Dionysus!!! And isn't Cerberus the three headed hound of hades who guards the gates of the underworld? There's a great painting by William Blake of Cerberus. I strongly recommend you make more videos and promote your work Noel

[@HarshSingh-qr5lm]

Wow. You deserve way more subscribers. The comparison is so on point.

[@jeffparker2369]

This video does a really good job at presenting both ideas in a way that makes it up to the viewer to critically think about which is the better philosophical view.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thank you!

[@victoroldright4381]

yes, thanks for the video I read Dostoyevsky many years ago. No clue what was his philosophy just the characters interacting and his voice commenting. thank you. Still, remember being unable to express the feelings and ideas contained

[@xelldincht4251]

18:45 - 19:23 I get the feeling we will learn this lesson again the hard way in the not-so-distant future...

[@awesomelovable3528]

This is my new favorite Channel on KZbin!

[@nigelbryant7980]

Dostoevsky and Nietzsche are two writers that I consider to have accomplished a supreme achievement. And I find it interesting that quite frequently, one who loves either Dostoevsky or Nietzsche, loves the other too. Jung, Heidegger, and Peterson are perhaps the foremost among them. But there are many others as well. Including yourself of course.

[@davidtrindle6473]

Heidegger was a Nazi.

[@yourneighbor2567]

@@davidtrindle6473 interesting... I'm not too familiar with Heidgegger. Thanks for the info. I'm about to go check out his work right now!

[@rico14]

I think it’s, because of how how authentic they were as people. “Real recognize Real”

[@oogwayy777]

Peterson lol.

[@radioactivebeverage]

I love Dostoevsky but I just cannot stand Nietzsche lol.

[@thetruth4654]

Something about you`re interpretation of the the Ubermensch seems quite simplistic. The nietzschean ubermench is above morality, society etc Dostoevsky while a great artist didn`t create his own values, he rather ended up choosing a christian theological frame for his morality.

[@bobtim1008]

I think nietzsche would have thought different if he saw the world today

[@henrywolf5332]

What’s Dostoyevsky’s view of the modern Russian church? This idea that modern man is so much more elevated because it’s trinkets is one of the most dangerous fallacies of man. To think people before us could not see clearly fails to grasp the same would apply to all ages and means little.

[@bobtim1008]

@@henrywolf5332 I don’t think modern man is more elevated in any way I personally think those in the past where probably more intelligent than us but I think nietzsche would have strayed away from postmodernism and nihilism if he saw the negative impacts it has on modern culture

[@kaspur66]

More literate and deeper thinking.

[@laryxislust6664]

i like ninietzsche, according to me he has a realistic view of the word ,setting aside religion..passion,struggle,joy and happiness is a bonus.

[@Libertarianmobius1]

The conclusion is that greatness itself has its benefits in giving our best effort while being alive but requires ultimate sacrifice. Sometimes it translate for good or bad for those that surround us and that's a power that Nietzsche encourages. Dostoyevsky warning thats such pursuit must be follow with caution and with a great heart because alternative is hell and suffering but if its not achieved then its still is a worthy endeavor for the individual. Its a beautiful balance but for some men out there is what they are born and meant for. Every individual or group has its own version what its potential can be and must face the consequences. There's only action in life. Only action and then we are gone. Do what you must while being alive. God speed...❤

[@rogerthomas1212]

Thanks for the great video, made me feel smarter just watching it. I'm looking forward to seeing more of this kind of content. I don't know how my algorithm put this in front of me, but it was a big change from the bikini try on instant gratification stuff I normally watch

[@Fiction_Beast]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chrishansen9033]

I think a problem with Nietzsche’s “be great” theory is that some will, instead of climbing the mountain, just make sure no one else can climb said mountain. The theory can (and will) become corrupt.

[@Fiction_Beast]

I agree. I don't think there is a theory or tool that's abuse-proof.

[@devinbradshaw9756]

“But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangmen and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had-power.” - Nietzsche I believe what you describe is someone who is infected with Ressentiment and not what Nietzsche promotes. I would think this is why Nietzsche would support someone pulling away from society into solitude in order to climb their own mountain. One can only hope to be great onto their own Free Spirit

[@chrishansen9033]

@@devinbradshaw9756 agreed. All I’m saying is that it is a slippery slope from what Nietzsche prescribed to what people will do. My problem isn’t that Nietzsche was wrong (not to say that I don’t disagree with some of his teachings, as I do). Maybe the way I phrased the comment was a bit off. What I meant is that it is very easy for one to interpret his teachings in such a wretched way. For example, the Nazis interpreted the Superman theory horribly - or was it his sisters fault for false translation? - and this led to some dire consequences. My problem is that it is too easy for someone to take it the wrong way. Granted, I don’t know too much about the Superman, as I just started reading his works, and the one book that I am reading of his is Twilight of the Idols. Maybe as I further venture into his books I’ll understand it better.

[@henrywolf5332]

Nietzsche is a slippery slope? Sounds like one you haven’t fallen down yet by your take. Das man is your concern. Protect the sleeping from knowing he shouted as he recited talking points about Nietzsche

[@eldenlean5221]

I think that the real problem with the ubermench is that "creating your own values" thus "becoming God" is fundamentally impossible. Value and meaning are not created, they are discovered. Its also at the same time, less grandiose and inspiring than Christ, and also a loot more impersonal and fictitious. Nietzsche himself, someone who came pretty darn close to embodying his own ideal, was in the end left broken. His will completely crumbled as no man is an island on to himself. Transcendance can be found within us, but as Nietzsche tragically discovered we are not the source of transendance. There are things far greater than the individual and life can let you know exactly how much greater really fast.

[@andersaxmark5871]

God was never dead to Nietzsche personally

[@TheArchives111]

Good weighting analysis! There is difference of good and disaster in the analogy of different Philosophers. 100 marks!

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thank you

[@nickreyes9030]

It's funny how most religions start with rationality like the Ramayana showing how rationality built Society. And then the bhagavad-gita once a rational Society it wasn't built could be more spiritual and emotional. And then once society's lose the religion they start back at the beginning with being rational.

[@timadamson3378]

This video gives me a toothache, and it is glorious to share it with everyone.

[@saudalghamdi1267]

Nietzsche wound up talking to a horse and spend his remaining days in a mental institution. Fyodor suffered mentally, physically, economically, professionally, even socially, and just like Jordan Belford in The Wolf of Wall Street, he made it home without a scratch, a true legend! RIP!

[@dantechersi6056]

Dostojevski is writer and you are far from this so maibe you think your critic have point but you are no one people will rimember you are just like dast in road Dostojevski is one wich recive imortality iven today ands in future peoploe wil joy take book from Fjodor. But truth is Fjodor represent the ral deep state of human behevior and sens mesge that we just need to become not racionalist but live full with deep emocion with heart and love not folow materialistic limitate ilusion what is good and bad

[@saudalghamdi1267]

@@dantechersi6056 chill bro, maybe take time to comprehend what you read first, and learn to spell properly before attacking someone online like a maniac!

[@dantechersi6056]

just put all douwn is first lecion idea thoth emocion then with fresch nature inside se what is what have a good journey to new live @@saudalghamdi1267

[@stbecca6051]

at 20:20 your clip cuts off! I would've loved to know what you had to say about notes from underground

[@yogi2436]

I notice that a big complaint against intellectuals for him is that they see themselves as blameless compared with anyone else. And so they have a sense of superiority, coldness and self-righteousnes . Many modern day intellectuals spring to mind. For me Foucault would definitely be one, who do you think?

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

Both. Finding meaning through goodness works. Ambition to be great also works. There exists people who believe in goodness *and* in their capacity towards greatness. In all three cases, Nihilism is permanently subdued.

[@Catherine-bs1xj]

thank you for putting in the time and effort to make this video. i am a writer and this is my struggle.

[@nfragala]

Thank you for these vids. Your content is excellent.

[@hayatkaidi7889]

Thanks for the content ❤️❤️

[@shahsadsaadu5817]

I love turganev's rudhin more than i like Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche. It's more about "I don't know wtf i should do,but this world without hope is a miserable existence

[@KINGSTUNAX]

Nietzsche's philosophy will out perform on any given day. it is the best philosophy i have ever gone through

[@sunnysideoflife2374]

Interesting thing is Nietzsche's philosophy is masculine & his solution is going back to Nature (feminine) while Dostoevsky's philosophy is feminine & his solution is going back to the god (Masculine). Yin & Yang.

[@flower.child47]

This was so well written. Thank you.

[@ianmarten1766]

Why at 20:23 does the video skip? It appears the narrator is about to discuss the main character of “Notes of Underground” when it suddenly skips to Nietzsche on reason/emotion…..

[@gen.flagvanus9260]

I remember the gutting feeling and kind of a cold shower when i have read crime and punishment. The way Fyodor Michailovich was writing is just majestic and eternal. But the true schock for me was the understanding that I, at a time 16 year old russian college student, found resemblence of myself with Raskolnikov, the murderer, the madman and a lost soul. That day I understood the very horror of my views. Если бог действительно мертв, то завет, который он нам даровал, позволит нам его воскресить. Thank you for a video

[@LokeshSharma-me5pg]

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[@Fiction_Beast]

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[@neilorourke71]

Nietzsche just sounds like a proto-edgelord. Dostoevsky actually wrote from his personal tragedy and had a true perspective on the value of human life and existence

[@eliseintheattic9697]

This is an interesting discussion. I guess this is a subject of great debate during this time. The biggest problem I see is that that both men, raised as christians, saw the whole of "spirituality" through a christian lens. Nietzsche in rejecting christianity thought he had only two choices, christianity or rationality. Dostoyevsky on the other hand, plucked from it what was beautiful and good, and was critical of the rest. I prefer Dostoevskys approach because I think it takes us closer to a reconciliation between spirit and rationality. Nietzsche, although he seemingly rejected Christianity, missed some important ways in which he was still deeply influenced by it. Christianity comes with a deep sense of "specialness" and a sense of superiority. It's base is Judaism. People who were "gods chosen", and christianity teaches that the only way to be blessed and loved by god is to be christian. IMO this is the underlying core upon which Nietzsche built his theories. How can mankind still be special and superior without christianity? And why he believed that power was the ultimate goal of all life.

[@TopLobster11]

Loved it, keep up the good work

[@preciousamaechi5887]

I love Dostoevsky, honestly I do. I do so much!

[@gubski1]

Awesome episode. One suggestion though - it's probably worth putting some elevator music in the background rather than great classical masterpieces. At some points I felt that I'm trying to listen through your talking to the music and in some the other way around 😅

[@VermeersLens]

Nietzsche was Dostoesvky's Raskolnikov - who wanted to be like Napoleon, a ruthless great man, but when he actually carried out his plans, found them impracticable; his conscience wouldn't allow it. Nietzsche too, wanted to be a strong Man, but was so sensitive that he went mad, after witnessing a horse being whipped.

[@Fiction_Beast]

I think Nietzsche was a very strong-minded person who single-handedly changed philosophy. Going mad is not a weakness, but a complicated mental state, perhaps after pushing the envelopes

[@harryjones84]

he never said he was the over-man he said he was to come

[@maxmcnally6346]

I think that's incredibly unfair to Nietzsche. Raskolnikov's theory was about what certain people with certain self-identification are entitled to do; sick to the point of death, robbery and murder became these absurd, false proofs that intensified the inward turning of his conscience. These "proofs", for Nietzsche, would be beneath the Overman; the concept of philosophising from beyond Good and Evil, overcoming the restrictive psychological inhibition of Judeao-Christianity, as the beginning of a new human potentiality and phase of being (in that it is no longer about essence or form and being, but instead becoming), conflated with the random acts of violence of an immature intellect vis-a-vis the naive Bonapartist, is to me a mis-reading and reduction. It's to do both Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky, who didn't read Nietzsche and wouldn't have been familiar with his thought to consciously render a version of his ideas in character, a disservice. IMHO.

[@ryokan9120]

@@Fiction_Beast I read his madness might have been the result of a brain tumour. The symptoms of euphoria, megalomania followed by madness and dementia are consistent with a brain tumour, but ultimately we'll never know anything for certain.

[@omegacardboard5834]

Assuming thy he did want to be a Napoleon (Which is reasonable considering he joined the military twice), I would say the reason he gave up on that was more because of his physical health or perhaps because he just felt it wasn’t the right time

[@rmar1957]

Nice. Love these.❤

[@suchitakrishnaprasad281]

What a delight to listen to your elucidation

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thank you

[@Selderij]

20:20 just skips to another part. The content is interesting, but is a bit akin to a high school presentation. Keep at it, you'll get better.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thank you!

[@ohmatokita347]

Amazing video!

[@jaCIA_agent-80085]

I love the Tchaikovsky in the background...

[@bayleycoleman]

Quick Note: Schopenhaur wasn't influenced by Hinduism or Buddhism, because they had yet to travel West. He arrived at them independently and only after did he use their influence to support his claims.

[@theGuilherme36]

Actually hinduism was already in German at the time of Schopenhauer. Research yourself Friedrich Schlegel's book on Hindu religion and culture

[@KaluSuddasCanDie]

Bayley Kindly educate yourself before making such a statement, thank you

[@bayleycoleman]

@@KaluSuddasCanDie Take Schopenhauer's words... Proclaiming the affinity of Buddhism with his doctrine, the philosopher wrote these lines: “This similitude is much more enjoyable to me, as my philosophical thought was certainly free from Buddhist influence because until 1818, during the publication of my book, we only had in Europe rare publications about Buddhism, they were confined almost entirely to a few essays, published in the first volume of “Asiatic researches” and relating mainly to Brahmanism and Buddhism”.

[@bayleycoleman]

@@theGuilherme36 Perhaps I misspoke regarding Hinduism, but here are Schopenhauer's words on Buddhism: Proclaiming the affinity of Buddhism with his doctrine, the philosopher wrote these lines: “This similitude is much more enjoyable to me, as my philosophical thought was certainly free from Buddhist influence because until 1818, during the publication of my book, we only had in Europe rare publications about Buddhism, they were confined almost entirely to a few essays, published in the first volume of “Asiatic researches” and relating mainly to Brahmanism and Buddhism”.

[@theGuilherme36]

@@bayleycoleman Regarding Buddhism, maybe true

[@liltick102]

Werner Herzog also repeats that thoughts are best revealed while travelling on foot.

[@orangiruth5158]

Whats the music in the background,?

[@ericfoster6450]

Wow! Who wrote this?!! Who made this video? Fantastic!

[@Fiction_Beast]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tomtsu5923]

As just an arm chair Nietzsche buff, I can recognize many glaring mistakes in your telling of his bio and philosophy. I appreciate the effort here, but without precision, I can't help but feel this video is counterproductive toward an understanding of Nietzsche.

[@ren.666]

can you elaborate

[@chuntoon1]

Your videos are the best

[@francislarv3012]

Excellent essay. Thanks

[@jesuisravi]

a word of caution: Before you take anyone as a guide, make sure you study their whole life, from the first to the last breath,. Nietzsche, in my humble opinion, if you're looking for a guru , is a poor choice for that role.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Yea Nietzsche is not for everyone. I think he said it himself.

[@jesuisravi]

@@Fiction_Beast If so, it was well said.

[@Fiction_Beast]

I explained about his audience in the video

[@uncleusuh]

@@jesuisravi That’s interesting, so I ask 1. If you were to choose a guru, who would it be? 2. On behalf of guru, how well qualified is Dostoevsky?

[@jesuisravi]

@@uncleusuh I really can't think of a literary personage I would choose as a guru. Not even Tolstoi or Rolland, let alone Dostoevsky.

[@primetimeperformance]

Outstanding summation

[@heerakathakor6016]

You cut off abruptly at 20:21 from talking about Dostoevsky to going to Nietzsche

[@Fiction_Beast]

Oops. Sorry about that.

[@heerakathakor6016]

@@Fiction_Beast no worries :)

[@victoroldright4381]

The old nag being beaten in the road and Sophia being beaten, the cruelty and the coldness of a friend greeting the knowing you are not loved but only used finally the knowledge you have overcome. Nitcheze loved Dostoyevsky because he saw himself in the story.

[@debrachambers1304]

20:20 its cuts off suddenly here

[@Fiction_Beast]

Footage was copyrighted so had to delete for the video to stay up on KZbin. The full video is on my other channel.

[@313Nadir]

that title is the perfect summary of the two men's work

[@johnmichalski5981]

I haven't had many of his experiences (I was never subjected to a mock execution or condemned to a labor camp) but I have taken a spiritual path similar to Dostoyevsky's. I've abandoned the delusions of Western rationalism and humanism and five years ago I entered the Eastern Orthodox Church. If all you know of Christianity is Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, I invite you to explore Orthodoxy. It's a whole different world.

[@vunguyentr5561]

I think I deeply resonate with Nietzsche philosophy but both of these two great philosopher author share more similarity than the video presented One encourages personal greatness and the other advocates communal goodness but these are two inseperated ideas and concepts.

[@BrightGarlick]

Perhaps compare Chekhov, Tolstoy and Gogol.

[@marinbilic2893]

I don't know who you are but this is genius

[@pcdm43145]

Question: Is it just my playback, or is there an editing-error @20:21, where it jumps from the middle of a point about Dostoevsky, to the middle of another point about Neitzsche?

[@Fiction_Beast]

No it was cut because it contained a copyright clip from an old Soviet film. Apologies.

[@pcdm43145]

@@Fiction_Beast Ah, that explains it. No worries, though. (Who knew the Soviets were so anal about enforcing copyrights, hahaha? I thought communism's whole schtick was "no private property," and all that...?) Also, you do really good work; for what it's worth, you've earned yourself another subscriber. All the best, my friend.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Appreciate it. I think someone has bought the rights to those films. Lesson learnt. No more Soviet films.

[@jaredhigdon1680]

I'm trying to find that black and white painting of Dostoevsky you keep using. Does it have a name? I'd love to find it.

[@Fiction_Beast]

Tell me the time stamp and I will tell you the title.

[@jaredhigdon1680]

@@Fiction_Beast 23:27 looks like it says "Papa" on it

[@Fiction_Beast]

Victor Ion Popa - Fedor Mihailovici Dostoiewski

[@jaredhigdon1680]

@@Fiction_Beast oh wow, thanks so much! Appreciate all your videos, by the way.

[@kotby3066]

one of the greatest channels in KZbin keep going and keep giving us more and more great and useful summery about great ideas and great philosophy across the history ♥

[@Fiction_Beast]

Really appreciate the support.

[@justwanttolookutub]

The issue with Nietzsche's approach is that in 21st century morally unshackled Übermensch is not just a hairless ape with a drive, but a hairless ape with a thermonuclear device, gene modifications, artificial life et ctr. Cost CAN be too high, Nietzsche could not have imagined what technology would allow people to do. Becoming an absolute genius at applying nukes to various locations on the planet, a la modern Alexander the Great or Napoleon - is not something both our species and entire evolution of life on this planet can afford. Even worse, the more genius Ubermensch push science and technology forward, the easier it is for rest of us to get access to larger and larger destructive power. How long till there are easily available DIY instructions for making a deadly virus with accessible equipment on a dark web? We as a society will have no choice, either to create a system in which every individual is under observation and is controlled/influenced 24/7 ,or there is a moral religious template controlling individual from withing.

[@michaelhagen2712]

Nietzsche did imagine it. His argument that God is dead and we killed him, is exactly what you’re describing. He definitely foresaw the consequences of removing the foundational pillars of a culture and the aftermath. Something has to fill that void when it’s removed. The culture is currently at war working that out. I think there’s a high probability that we may not survive it.

[@Player-re9mo]

Kind of fits with Nietzsche's idea of repeating cycles. We grow up only to blow ourselves up, then we rise again only to fall repeatedly. Individual accomplishments are valued over communal well-being. This is what happens when you abandon morality to justify your animalistic impulses.

[@justwanttolookutub]

@@AYVYN Alexander did not have nukes nor weaponized airborne ebola. It's not about extraordinary people endangering average Joe. It's about morally unrestricted push for extraordinarility at everything will endanger humanity as a whole. Because eventually there will be extraordinary talented destructive person.

[@aiagraula]

I think you misinterpreted nietzsche, but who am i to judge

[@justwanttolookutub]

@@aiagraula Could be. Nietzsche was way way smarter than me. But as far as i understand what he wanted to say - he wanted extraordinary people to be able to go beyond social taboos of good and evil and shine unrestricted by mediocrity of crab bucket artificial concepts of society. Beyond good and evil, ubermensch, arent those ideas about that? If it is, my point stands. Some Ubermensh unrestricted by social rules of self preservation ,given our technology, will eventually push too far.

[@pi_eir1241]

Nietzshe never literally said that “God is dead”,but the decline in belief might lead to the loss of meaning.That’s why he was so obsessed with the Übermensch so that people could create their own values and become a greater version of themselves.