War and Peace - How Tolstoy Challenges Historians (summary & analysis)

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@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Tolstoy's other masterpiece: Anna Karenina kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHynfGhjgL53rNk Tolstoy vs Dostoevsky kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIPNemuFhdhljsk Tolstoy vs Dickens: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKPPiHduhd51pq8 Tolstoy's Philosophy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGmqk4yLrdSsgdE I have spent a lot of time talking about Dostoevsky, so in the next few videos I will talk about Tolstoy and his major novels. This is the first in a series of video on Tolstoy. Let me know if you have read Tolstoy's novels and what is your favourite one. Sposibo bolshoi!
@sarathkumarnallendhiran2815
@sarathkumarnallendhiran2815 2 жыл бұрын
Expecting Anna Karenina Summary and Analysis.🙏
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Soon.
@ReligionOfSacrifice
@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiction_Beast, I hate "Anna Karenina" but I do approve of the assessment in the end, but here is a better way to understand it. If after death you awake to a new heavens and a new Earth, then how would you know if you are being punished or rewarded by God in the next life for both heaven and hell can be found on this Earth. The answer is if the Germans are the engineers, the English are the cops, if the Swedish are the bankers, the Italians are the lovers, and the French are the cooks, then you are in heaven. BUT, if the Germans are the police, if the English are the cooks, if the Swedish are the lovers, the Italians are the bankers, and the French are the engineers, then you are in hell.
@jurgbangerter1023
@jurgbangerter1023 2 жыл бұрын
Jean Jacques Rousseau was citizen of Genève which is in Switzerland, he influenced his compatriotes such as Henri Dunant, general Henri Dufour and Johann Pestalozzi the founder of Public Schools, all of tem were of Huguenot or as Pestalozzi Waldneser-Valdeser origin.
@elasticharmony
@elasticharmony Жыл бұрын
I have read this novel twice, and all his stories I believe if not I will, I have also read his books on art and literature, he actually considered Shakespeare a bad writer.
@keithnaylor1981
@keithnaylor1981 2 жыл бұрын
The 7 hour Russian film version from 1966-67 is the greatest epic film ever made. Moving romance with incredible battle scenes all put together with unique inventive artistry.
@scotttanner8043
@scotttanner8043 2 жыл бұрын
Keith, Many years ago I saw a 1927 (silent) film directed by Abel Gance. With a live orchestra playing an original score, composed by Carmine Coppola. I lead a simple life (and was definitely taken out of my element); that said, it provided a great lifetime memory. Next up? The film you saw---Thanks for the insights!
@Tolstoy111
@Tolstoy111 2 жыл бұрын
I found it a total slog to be honest. It felt like State Cinema. Missed the humanity of the novel by quite a bit and the director should not have cast himself as Pierre.
@Либра-л6э
@Либра-л6э 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Keith!!! Thank you for your brilliant analysis of one of the greatest movies in the history of the unrivaled Soviet cinematography. I am Russian , now American Russian for many years but have always been cherishing our old Soviet movies . I think that the decision to work on the movie was already a heroic act on the part of our great Director Sergei Bondarchuk. If you are interested I can let you know quite a few other wonderful movies . Thank you again, I was very impressed with your comment .Lydia
@Tolstoy111
@Tolstoy111 2 жыл бұрын
It missed the humanity of the novel though.
@Daggz90
@Daggz90 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the book (the Maudes translation) and just finished watching War & Peace from 2016, currently watching the -66-67 film series and I'm enchanted already. Amazing stuff!
@durwinpocha2488
@durwinpocha2488 2 жыл бұрын
"Life is a dream and death is waking up from that dream." Leo Tolstoy.
@martinsFILMS13
@martinsFILMS13 2 жыл бұрын
nonsense
@amina-pr8xt
@amina-pr8xt 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@majidbineshgar7156
@majidbineshgar7156 2 жыл бұрын
"La vida es sueño... / Life is a dream... " was said first by Calderon de la barca Spanish writer.
@burgermind802
@burgermind802 2 жыл бұрын
@Marcin 13 the science of consciousness agrees with Tolstoy that life is a "dream", and to die is to "wake up" from the illusion of first person subjective reality.
@martinsFILMS13
@martinsFILMS13 2 жыл бұрын
@@burgermind802 sounds like a bunch of bullshit
@nigelbryant7980
@nigelbryant7980 2 жыл бұрын
Now, Tolstoy’s brilliant views on history seem self evident. Thus, we forget how revolutionary Tolstoy’s ideas were at the time and how important he is today.
@zr0ll99
@zr0ll99 2 жыл бұрын
He isn't that important today. But it doesn't mean that we should stop reading his books.
@00billharris
@00billharris 2 жыл бұрын
No, during T's lifetime history as process vs great man was in open debate. T, in essence proved nothing. Rather Napoleon was simply defeated by Kutuzov.
@zr0ll99
@zr0ll99 2 жыл бұрын
@@00billharris yo actually didn't read War and Peace
@burgermind802
@burgermind802 2 жыл бұрын
@bill harris wrong, the great man theory is dead in academia. Only the popular imagination refuses to drop hero worship.
@00billharris
@00billharris 2 жыл бұрын
@@burgermind802 The focus of my remarks is real history--not hero-worshipping trash-talk by the hoi poloi. To this end, the counterfactuals of the napoleonic Wars are simple: a mass popular uprising of russkiepalookas did not defeat Napoleon. Rather Kutuzov did with a revitalized army of conscripts.
@colinellesmere
@colinellesmere 2 жыл бұрын
This analysis is one of the densest most brilliant discourses I have heard. Well worth repeated listening. I can well believe you spent 90 hours to make this video And it should not be forgotten the background knowledge you already held. I have only recently discovered yout channel. KZbin has some outstanding channels on history and literature, and you sir rightfully belong in this category.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Rosemary-u5z3y
@Rosemary-u5z3y 9 ай бұрын
Agree. "Be the change we want to see the world. Change from within to manifest the change from without."
@suev3339
@suev3339 Жыл бұрын
Reading the book War and Peace at the age of 71 for the first time I really have to say - It’s a treatise on the story of history thru men as the Almighty moves them to accomplish His purposes. Most spectacular classic I’ve ever read.
@TheBeesKnees13579
@TheBeesKnees13579 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest surprise about reading this to me was that it’s very easy to read compared to many books. It’s simply written, well organized, and most importantly to me it is split up into very small sections so it feels like you are reading quickly.
@lilxtra6211
@lilxtra6211 2 жыл бұрын
That’s Russian lit for you, thought the same thing when I read crime and punishment. The difference between that and something like a tale of two cities and massive, something about the language really makes the writing feel direct, in a very appealing way.
@robbiearroyo2292
@robbiearroyo2292 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar thought, and wondered if that was (chapter designation aside) part of the result of the translation, and if the language and syntax itself is more archaic in the original Russian. Just a thought, if anybody has read the Russian language text I'd be curious to know.
@kevincardinale5655
@kevincardinale5655 Жыл бұрын
@@robbiearroyo2292 Yeah, same here, looking for someone that read it in Russian
@stanislavbudaev4564
@stanislavbudaev4564 Жыл бұрын
@@kevincardinale5655 Half of it is in French, which is translated in the footnotes. The characters often mix it with Russian in dialogues which looks unbearable, because you have to look down for the translation and try to find the place where you stopped. ‘Not French again’ is the most common thought in your head while reading. On the second reread you start paying attention to the motivations of the people, on the first reading you can barely keep up with the overarching story. Everyone seems to be acting as an idiot. Tolstoy never knows when to finish his sentences. He is preachy, Karatayev (the peasant) speaks with proverbs that sound as though Tolstoy is shoving this wisdom of the manure heap down the throats of his fruity aristocrat buddies. Every time he philosophises he uses the antiquated manner of the XVIII century Russian writers that used to torture the structure of the language to make it conform to the Latin and Ancient Greek syntax. After learning French you begin to see that he was translating his thoughts from his mother tongue into Russian. He was no Pushkin, who did the same thing with pleasant elegance. In short, Tolstoy’s language is heavy and coarse.
@Rascal-of-War
@Rascal-of-War 11 ай бұрын
​@@stanislavbudaev4564...you may have picked up a bad translation
@simonbrown8326
@simonbrown8326 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a wonderful breakdown of my favourite book. It’s a real gift to have a native Russian explain many of the cultural and historical aspects which are obscure to someone not familiar with Russian culture.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Not a native Russian but appreciate the comment
@gardensenglishandtrivia
@gardensenglishandtrivia 2 жыл бұрын
One does not to be a native Russian to understand the complexity of a Russian novel, far from it, in fact.
@sheevinopalpatino4782
@sheevinopalpatino4782 2 жыл бұрын
@@gardensenglishandtrivia You need cultural insight to understand any work. English fool.
@gardensenglishandtrivia
@gardensenglishandtrivia 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheevinopalpatino4782 You would be really surprised at my cultural insight, I can read, speak and write in Russian :-)
@MrLiviooo
@MrLiviooo 2 жыл бұрын
I did read War and Peace some years ago ,indeed all interesting insights you show in the video ,they keep and transport the person in that period ! after reading you will never be the same… Thank you very much for your work and the passion,to share with us the fervour of reading !
@zoiachurilov3573
@zoiachurilov3573 2 жыл бұрын
I just read it, masterpiece!
@sulibreaks
@sulibreaks 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished reading War & Peace today! It took me four months ( a LONG time, considering my usual pace) but I would like to say your channel was the inspiration for me picking it up and committing to the journey. I love your what you do, before i started watching it, my main reference for ‘classic’ literature was the stuff they forced us to read in class. Thanks so much!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
that's really awesome to hear! Kudos to you for finishing the novel.
@csk4j
@csk4j 2 жыл бұрын
You have a great talent for summarizing these plots and their meanings!
@reaganwiles_art
@reaganwiles_art 2 жыл бұрын
to anyone interested, look at Tolstoys manuscript pages. They are almost illegible, only his wife could read them they were written in such a passionate haste.
@susanarupolo2212
@susanarupolo2212 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have read the book when I was adolescent, long ago, I didn’t understand the deep way you explain, but I also read Ana Karenin and the small books, Tolstoy ,for me was a great writer full of wisdom ,a spiritual man.
@darkhobo
@darkhobo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its fun to re-read stuff that I read when I was younger and just see all the shit that flew WAY over my head.
@supremereader7614
@supremereader7614 2 жыл бұрын
I so appreciate your videos, you make long complex books like the idiot - or complex ideas from people like Jung seem fairly simple. Thanks for making these.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your support
@ElfProduct
@ElfProduct 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing summary & analysis - Keep up the good work!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@commentor369chelsea4
@commentor369chelsea4 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work, worthy of the subject. 90 hrs, I don't doubt it at all. I recommend that all readers watch the mini series in which Anthony Hopkins plays Pierre. With out this the earlier character development can be rather confusing.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. Also for the suggestions.
@riotintheair
@riotintheair 2 жыл бұрын
I read "War and Peace" when I was 17. I thought I'd hate it, and for the first couple hundred pages I did hate it, but somewhere I fell in love with Andrei and Pierre... I could see myself in them, Andrei as the man I hoped l could be and Pierre as a lot more like the man I'd probably become. Andrei's slow death was agonizing (especially as it takes like 100 pages) but I was happy you highlighted the final passage, it's one of my favorite passages in literature. I also found the foreigness of the court setting really interesting, just in how different it is from my own experience as an American growing up in the late 20th century. I'm not sure I'd say it's the greatest novel, but of the novels routinely bandied about as greatest I enjoyed it the most, with perhaps "Don Quixote" being it's only real competition.
@ricklynch5598
@ricklynch5598 2 жыл бұрын
Insightful and quite frankly, very educational. I appreciate the lesson. Thank you!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@carakathleen
@carakathleen 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the greatest book ever written!
@007rakeshshukla
@007rakeshshukla Жыл бұрын
Very well done!! Extremely helpful in understanding this great novel.
@raymondhummel5211
@raymondhummel5211 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing all your thoughts concerning Tolstoy's "War and Peace".
@dmtdreamz7706
@dmtdreamz7706 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your love and all your encouragement. We love you. Thank you.
@Fitness4London
@Fitness4London Жыл бұрын
So much valuable information and insight in this video. I need to watch it several times for it all to sink in.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MariaFerreira-gj1xu
@MariaFerreira-gj1xu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You explain with a great deal of clarity & super visuals. I will finally be able to finish this masterpiece.
@snippets5420
@snippets5420 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man @FictionBeast your videos about books and their summaries are very helpful and intriguing.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@alexanderkennedy2776
@alexanderkennedy2776 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I just finished the book and this helped bring all the themes together. I too found the end quote one of my favorites and recent events so clearly shows the danger of setting up science as an idol. The only scene I wished you would have covered more is the scene between Natasha and Anatol Kuragin. Everyone knows Natasha is making a mistake but they cannot convince her of the folly. In stopping the elopement, Sonya damages her relationship with Natasha for a while. You cannot convince people of mistakes they have set their heart on.
@Xxxbloom11
@Xxxbloom11 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just finished it a few days ago and have way too many thoughts, I was having trouble putting together all the main ideas in my mind since there was so much to sort through. Thank you for this video, you've helped me get my sort out my thoughts. I'll be subscribing and watching more!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it.
@Nomad_786
@Nomad_786 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished this book, was painfully long. But I did see the merit of this book and see why it was acclaimed and widely lauded.
@zlvirag
@zlvirag 2 жыл бұрын
....a nice review for me, and found it comforting, sort of speak, that when you posted quotes, I actually remembered them...thaks for another great post...
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@reaganwiles_art
@reaganwiles_art 2 жыл бұрын
W&P is a great book. I am sorry that Tolstoy could not be happy. He was the greatest prose writer ever. Plato, Tolstoy. One should not forget once he knows that Tolstoy's wife edited everything he wrote before it went to the printer.
@gardensenglishandtrivia
@gardensenglishandtrivia 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanredfern4442 I find Dostoyevsky's writing extremely depressing, perhaps because he was so orthodox and conservative in his views and thus rejected "western" contitutionalism and parliamentarism. At the age of 51, when he was painted by Pierov, he looked very old and very sad. There is no happiness that you mentioned in your comment, whatsoever.
@gardensenglishandtrivia
@gardensenglishandtrivia 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanredfern4442 Yes, you are absolutely right; I think I do not understand Christ, in fact nobody does because we have too little information about him, in my humble opinion. Cheers.
@peterlindal3352
@peterlindal3352 2 жыл бұрын
​@@gardensenglishandtrivia Thanks for sharing your thoughts, you seem very humble. While i personally also find a lot about the person Jesus of Nazareth way beyond my capcity to understand, there is something there that strikes me in a beautiful way. I know that i will die, and living all by and for myself seems to make death claim even more from me, but by living for others and loving them, something i daily struggle to do though, I think somehow my life joins something eternal, the same power i "feel" from the cross. It's hard to express and am sorry for writing so wordy, but i definately think there is a lot for me and for you in the gospel, have a great week and God bless you and give you peace!
@gardensenglishandtrivia
@gardensenglishandtrivia 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterlindal3352 Thank you!
@peterlindal3352
@peterlindal3352 2 жыл бұрын
@@gardensenglishandtrivia most welcome friend, thanks to you as well!
@georgecoventry8441
@georgecoventry8441 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! I just finished watching the immense Russian film "War and Peace", and was thus drawn to watch your video. What I need to do now is read the book. Thank you for your very clear analysis! I agree with Tolstoy that "Life is a dream and death is waking up from that dream." That is, I think that is probably correct. I will see for myself....when death comes.
@sharontheodore8216
@sharontheodore8216 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comprehensive analysis . . . Not 10 cups of coffee would have helped me produce such a fine work. ‘The Last Station’ was a movie made about the last months of Tolstoy life, I don’t know if you had watched it. Stay well.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I have not seen the Last Station. I think it came out a few years ago. Again I really appreciate your support.
@Либра-л6э
@Либра-л6э 2 жыл бұрын
I am Russian And I am so proud to be Russian when I read your comments . Thank you!!!
@shengcer
@shengcer 2 жыл бұрын
Still loves Dostoyevsky more, but it is interesting to see how these 2 novelists/philosophers see each other since they have so opposed views on humans.
@perk478
@perk478 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sheng! Can you please explain how they differ? Thank you!
@tengizabulani9154
@tengizabulani9154 2 жыл бұрын
@@perk478 they are completely different. The only thing they have in common is the greatness of talent
@jspoosener6729
@jspoosener6729 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a great video. I really appreciated it so much. Thank you.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear. Thank you.
@derekgreen7319
@derekgreen7319 Жыл бұрын
I wish modern books were more like this . I've read war and peace twice. It's one of my favorite books .
@ianfjones4207
@ianfjones4207 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your content. Keep them coming ❤
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@SamuelBoschMIT
@SamuelBoschMIT 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing summary! As a fellow KZbinr, I can only imagine how much effort you must have put into making this video! 🙂
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it.
@praveengopu9325
@praveengopu9325 Жыл бұрын
20:18 amazing philosophical context
@mcpanorama
@mcpanorama 2 жыл бұрын
I have read and enjoyed War and Peace. It is a page-turner. As an historian St George and the Dragons, Fonthill Media, 2018) I find your analysis, from a Chinese background? enlightening.
@toriidawdy8456
@toriidawdy8456 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on ! Such a soulful novel for these days cheers!
@captainnolan5062
@captainnolan5062 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed the video very much. I became a subscriber on the basis of this video alone!
@bwoutchannel6356
@bwoutchannel6356 2 жыл бұрын
I am nearly finished reading it and it is one of the best books i've read and would like to reread quickly. Lets see what this says.
@forrestwheeler916
@forrestwheeler916 5 күн бұрын
I am-so glad to here this story. A masterpiece
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Жыл бұрын
Edward Gibbon created the Historical Method which is like the forensics of historical priorities. This has also enabled modern historians to examine the biases and arrive at the nearest to truth, by also incorporating evidence such as archeology. Also, there are many social histories that do investigate the lives and conditions of average people.
@richardmackay4369
@richardmackay4369 2 жыл бұрын
“Why the greatest novel of all time” - not sure this was intended, but what is “greatest” of course is different for every person, no doubt you know this. I do love War&Peace and Anna Karenina too, but the unbelievable coincidences irritate a bit (Pierre happens on his old mate Bolkonsky on the battlefield of Borodino- what are the chances!) as Dickens often does, also Pasternak. Personally my preference is Dostoevsky especially Brothers Karamazov.
@angelashort1331
@angelashort1331 2 жыл бұрын
I too enjoyed deeply ,The Brothers , Another modern book is by James Michener , POLAND , it was quick coverage of some history and it was prophetic in its journey , to today , SOON, we will be the added chapter of Micheners insightful epic , God Bless. Ani Angela
@angelashort1331
@angelashort1331 2 жыл бұрын
I also love all of CS Lewis's books , especially , THIS HIDEOUS STRENGTH, and MERE CHRISTIANITY ,
@kingsleyperera9655
@kingsleyperera9655 2 жыл бұрын
DOSTOYEVSKY'S " Brothers Karamazov " is NO: ONE . I read same every Year without fail .
@tengizabulani9154
@tengizabulani9154 2 жыл бұрын
Your verdict is definitely hasn't matured enough. If you still compare
@richardmackay4369
@richardmackay4369 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelashort1331 Angela, thanks for that. I don’t have your knowledge of Lewis, but I did read his “A Grief Observed” after the death of my own wife, now 20 years ago, and found it supportive and profound. Which is a lot to say, coming from me, an atheist!
@nasseryousaf9618
@nasseryousaf9618 Жыл бұрын
Incredible, you have done it so beautifully so succinctly
@rogersledz6793
@rogersledz6793 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@giorgimerabishvili8194
@giorgimerabishvili8194 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. This channel is amazing!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Thank you!
@uncleusuh
@uncleusuh 9 ай бұрын
I love how this great video starts with a shot of our Mongolian "Ger". Greetings from Ulaanbaatar.
@captainnolan5062
@captainnolan5062 4 ай бұрын
Interesting that Tolstoy's quote regarding Kutuzov reflects Napoleon's own maxim that "The moral is to the physical as three is to one"
@arctos49
@arctos49 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, none other than T.S. Rliot said that he could only get through about half of this book. That said I still plan to read it.
@elasticharmony
@elasticharmony Жыл бұрын
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@samaipata4756
@samaipata4756 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thank you! But most of all highly educational!
@Iphigenia-hl5uc
@Iphigenia-hl5uc Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Please keep up with the great work. Your videos are phenomenal!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@kekohokko7213
@kekohokko7213 2 жыл бұрын
You've read Natasha's situation when Andrei goes away to recuperate for a year different from how I did. As I understood it, she was very preoccupied with Bolkonsky and willed him to come back soon and marry her, up until the point where Kuragin meets her and basically decides to have her no matter the cost, almost badgering her and vying for her affection. Her impropriety in thought - the idea of eloping with Kuragin - was her only romantic episode, as I read it, and is cut short and turns to dread when Bezukhov steps in to get Kuragin out of her life.
@illchangelateridk
@illchangelateridk Жыл бұрын
By the "idea", you mean, an actual plan that was almost executed? She was about to escape, you can't justify the infidelity
@kekohokko7213
@kekohokko7213 Жыл бұрын
@@illchangelateridk I'm saying there are mitigating cicumstances: nothing happened, it wasn't her plan to begin with, she was swept up by a practised seducer and, not least of all, the person she promised herself to went off for years on end and left her alone. At this point in her young life she has basically no experience in romantic matters and the person she wanted to explore that with went off god knows where. I find it easy to make allowances for her confusion.
@kekohokko7213
@kekohokko7213 Жыл бұрын
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think it would be infidelity unless she and Bolkonsky were actually married or in a relationship and some concrete unfaithful act took place; you can't be judged on your thoughts.
@illchangelateridk
@illchangelateridk Жыл бұрын
@@kekohokko7213 Reading about her thoughts for probably tens of pages about how she "loves" them both was disgusting and infuriating. Nothing made sense in her thoughts. I'm sure that Tolstoy was very experienced in life, it would be a garbage writing, if this wasn't a real thing. She knew what she was doing, she was going for it, it wasn't like they tried to kidnap her against her will. It was very emotionally charged decision, but blaming everything on some "practiced seducer" is not enough for me. Even in modern day Russia, as wild as it is, there's this thing about a girl waiting a guy for one year from the army, it used to be 2 years like 20 years ago, and the girls who would fail to wait are deemed sl*ts, and you're telling me, that in traditional Russian society 200 years ago (tell anything you want about the balls and luxury, you can't deny the importance of church, marriage, family, how holy these things were considered, people married for life, "husband comes from God", just like tsar, all that good stuff, look at Maria's views about that) a girl couldn't wait one year and like 2-3 months or something, when they are practically engaged? Parents on her side approved the marriage, and they tried to abide by Andrey's father's "1-year rule", "years on end" is a hell of a stretch. Maybe kissing this mf isn't cheating too? F me then, what do I know Also Andrey said to her that she's free to go, if she wants, all that was needed is for Anatol to come to the parents openly. Everyone suggested to Natasha to tell Anatol to do so, but nah, f it, here I come in the night. All the perfect reasoning from Sonya and aunt went down the drain, that's what I was referring to as "garbage writing". And that's one of the points of the novel, there's nothing black and white in life. You can kill both of your lovers, because one was running from another at war and the other was pretty literally running from life, and still become a good mother... or at least a "fertile female", as Tolstoy calls her, was always good for breeding. ok, and maybe a little bit of singing, maybe a little of singing
@harisubramanian4165
@harisubramanian4165 2 жыл бұрын
In love ❤️ with your narrative style, interesting yet deep.
@neilritson7445
@neilritson7445 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!Loved this!
@brianwhite1189
@brianwhite1189 2 жыл бұрын
Love the yurt at the beginning of your video as it reminds me of my trip to Kazakhstan over twenty years ago.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
I got a dream of owning own one day
@lynngreyling7660
@lynngreyling7660 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insights.
@supremereader7614
@supremereader7614 2 жыл бұрын
"The main character of War and Peace is... not Napoleon." 😊 I get that joke, well done sir.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@iasnaia-poliana
@iasnaia-poliana Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this analysis.
@perk478
@perk478 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! So good with the background history, philosophy and so on. A bit slower and it would be perfect.
@fasted8468
@fasted8468 2 жыл бұрын
It's the greatest novel of our time because it is the story of a precipice we find ourselves on.
@reaganwiles_art
@reaganwiles_art 2 жыл бұрын
Have you approached Nabokov? He read W&P at age 10. He knew Tolstoy. He was to inherit one of the most bespoke estates in Russia-then the revolution happened. Nabokov, his mother and brother fled with nothing more of their wealth than his mother's jewels. His father was hunted down and assassinated. And Nabokov got nothing! The jewels payed for his education at Cambridge. He wrote to pay the bills. The author of Lolita, Ada and Pale Fire, among other masterpieces the likes of which had never been seen and will not be seen again, wrote to pay bills.
@MeinungMann
@MeinungMann Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! Спасибо
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leonjozinovic3060
@leonjozinovic3060 2 жыл бұрын
I have just read war and peace, a week ago. Brilliant adventure, brilliant characters, brilliant style of writing, poetic, deeply philosophical, and self-helping. Tolstoy is great, don’t agree with his anarchistic philosophy, I am more a fan of Dostoyevsky’s philosophy of demon inside of the individuals, but ok, it is interesting subject to discuss wheter is a society or individuals... The best channel on you tube about literature, no doubt. Great video, like any other. Keep going on that 🍻🍻
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😍
@danegustafson8241
@danegustafson8241 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting points and great video! I have disagree with your point about Tolstoy believing that free will is an illusion.In the epilogue, he seems to endorse the conclusion that it’s impossible for human beings to consider themselves either entirely free or entirely unfree, and criticizes “naturalists” for thinking they have eliminated free will through scientific experimentation. To be fair though, it’s kind of hard to discern his exact views given how strongly the theme of predestination figures throughout the work, and without that epilogue I also would have believed he was some kind of free will skeptic.
@mehmetEMINturkoglu
@mehmetEMINturkoglu Жыл бұрын
Tolstoy with his novel War and Peace, strongly opposed some of my ideas like individualistic heroism and made me rethink about my takes on historical figures. And I think this is a huge part that makes a novel GREAT: The capacity to challenge it's readers thoughts and revolutionize their mindset.
@someoneelse293
@someoneelse293 2 жыл бұрын
It feels like you've missed the humanity, the human beauty... no mention of Nicholas or Sophia ( the most lovable character ever written)
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Great point. I was worried about the length of the video so I focused on just a few characters.
@josephnavaneethan4402
@josephnavaneethan4402 2 жыл бұрын
Sophia, an angel and Mary, a saint.
@tengizabulani9154
@tengizabulani9154 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I always felt like Sofia was not absolutely positive character. I think Tolstoy portrayed her more like a weak personality, defective in a way. And her forgiveness and acceptance was more of a lack of "life" in her than a sanity.
@someoneelse293
@someoneelse293 2 жыл бұрын
@@tengizabulani9154 her realistic imperfections only serve to increase her beauty, and make me want to help her more
@eyobzewdie9305
@eyobzewdie9305 2 жыл бұрын
Best narration and Vived Presentation. Please keep z good job.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@Rosemary-u5z3y
@Rosemary-u5z3y 9 ай бұрын
We must restore the wisdom and knowledge of such great thinker. Children should cultivate such quality from very young age. Nations and societies cannot be run like a Mad World led by the BLIND and DEAF. Human life has a purpose; not just eating, sleeping, accumulate wealth and running here and there to catch the " shadow" of temporary material enjoyment. There is life Beyond Birth and Death, as the immortal spirit soul never dies.
@anjalishekhar1
@anjalishekhar1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great job.
@williamgragilla7007
@williamgragilla7007 2 ай бұрын
Imagine the conversations between Hugo & Tolstoy 🤯
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
I'm annoyed that I used two crucial dates wrong. 1905 for 1805 and 1912 for 1812. For some reason my brain is on autopilot when it comes to 1900. Both are Freudian slips of course.
@tarnopol
@tarnopol 2 жыл бұрын
The recent translation is fantastic.
@anuradhatiwari85
@anuradhatiwari85 2 жыл бұрын
I find war and peace very daunting. I have finished Anna karenina and find it very engaging and entertaining .
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Anna Karenina is a bit more focused.
@sarathkumarnallendhiran2815
@sarathkumarnallendhiran2815 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamps will be more helpful for this video. Consider making videos with timestamps.
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Done! Thanks for the feedback!
@csk4j
@csk4j 2 жыл бұрын
It seems modern philosophy has imploded into tyrannical subjectivism that rejects reason itself. I agree with Alexander Dugin we should try to reverse the clock to produce great works like these again in new ways.
@terryhand
@terryhand Жыл бұрын
Alexander Dugan, would indeed like to reverse the clock to an even more tyrannical time.
@D.N..
@D.N.. 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't read " War and Peace" but after watching this interesting video, I think I will read the novel !
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@khier-eddinehennaoui9783
@khier-eddinehennaoui9783 2 жыл бұрын
It's was the first book that i have red in English. You can imagine the suffering, now i think i ll read it again!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
awesome! good luck
@sviborgamulin3929
@sviborgamulin3929 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Thank you!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@doyle6000
@doyle6000 Жыл бұрын
What a great video - thank you!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@aniksen3831
@aniksen3831 2 жыл бұрын
Tolstoy is my all time favourite writer
@Insatiableviel007
@Insatiableviel007 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained 👍 Tolstoy's philosophies were very baised If he read the Mahabharata then he wouldn't have wrote W&P but thanks to that we got this tremendous and magnificently realistic novel !!!
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, true
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster 2 жыл бұрын
The writers of the Mahābhārata were pretty biased too, so is every writer. So what was your actually point? Why would he not have written W&P? How the hell do you know what Leo would have written? And how on Earth do you know Tolstoy did _not_ read the Mahābhārata? Have you seanced with him or something? Do you mean he would have written something different had he read different literature? If so, that is kind of a trivial thing to say, no? If I had read your high school grade papers I might not be writing this comment.
@k.arlanebel6732
@k.arlanebel6732 2 жыл бұрын
You are very biased.
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor 2 жыл бұрын
Every writer can only write about what they know or understand - including you. But, the real skill is being able to communicate one's insights that mean something to your intended audience. The greatest writers can speak to our common humanity, but there is room for the writer who can use his own milieu to enlighten us too.
@vijaysahani3464
@vijaysahani3464 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get your points. Leo Tolstoy was influenced by Arthur Schopenhauer the greatest pessimistic philosopher of 19th century. Arthur Schopenhauer was influenced by Eastern philosophy of Upanishads, Buddhist literature and Tao- Te -Ching of Lautze.
@sukumarbhattacharya9837
@sukumarbhattacharya9837 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. May be true or false. But seeing through Tolstoy's eyes it appears almost sure that we are born to suffer as like Tolstoy himself.
@emansayoud8829
@emansayoud8829 8 ай бұрын
phenomenon work, thank you
@hayatkaidi7889
@hayatkaidi7889 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great summary
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Sonnar100
@Sonnar100 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for post that, finally I undertand Tolstoy, I thing!
@eadred9164
@eadred9164 2 жыл бұрын
War and Peace is not the greatest novel of all time. It's Andrei Beily's Petersburg. But yes, late 19th-early 20th century pre-revolutionary Russian literature is the peak of literature imo.
@MarcoSilesio
@MarcoSilesio Жыл бұрын
such an amazing channel
@OlegAltukhov
@OlegAltukhov 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!!
@reedthompson6455
@reedthompson6455 3 ай бұрын
Second epilogue is my favorite part
@ReligionOfSacrifice
@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 жыл бұрын
“Sympathy, love for one's brothers, for those who love us, love for those who hate us, love for our enemies, yes, the love that God preached on Earth, which Princess Maria taught me and which I have not understood - that is what made me feel regret for life; that is what would have remained for me if my life had been spared. But now it is too late, I know it.” - Prince Andrei from "War and Peace"
@ReligionOfSacrifice
@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 жыл бұрын
TOP 15 FAVORITE BOOKS "The Holy Bible: King James Version" copyright 1967 1) "Verbal Behavior" by Dr. B. F. Skinner 2) "The Idiot" by Fyodor Dostoevsky 3) "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev 4) Myth Adventures - series by Robert Asprin 5) The Chronicles of Narnia - series by C. S. Lewis 6) "War and Peace" by Leo Tolstoy 7) "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 8) "Smoke" by Ivan Turgenev 9) "Roots" by Alex Haley 10) The Silmarillion - The Hobbit, or there and back again - The Lord of the Rings - Middle Earth stories by J. R. R. Tolkien 11) Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov 12) "Eugene Onegin" by Alexander Pushkin 13) "Crime and Punishment" by Fyodor Dostoevsky 14) "Paris 1919: six months that changed the world" by Margaret MacMillian 15) "Virgin Soil" by Ivan Turgenev
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
I am really glad to see so many of Turgenev's works on your list.
@ReligionOfSacrifice
@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiction_Beast, Ivan Turgenev is my favorite author with many books of his on my favorite books list. 3) "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev 8) "Smoke" by Ivan Turgenev 15) "Virgin Soil" by Ivan Turgenev 25) "Torrents of Spring" by Ivan Turgenev 46) "First Love" by Ivan Turgenev 74) "Acia" by Ivan Turgenev 96) "Rudin" by Ivan Turgenev 104) "On the Eve" by Ivan Turgenev 110) "Home of the Gentry" by Ivan Turgenev
@ReligionOfSacrifice
@ReligionOfSacrifice Жыл бұрын
@@Fiction_Beast, I'm still reading and it is so worth it. I have found my favorite literature story. It isn't "War and Peace" but it is the same author. TOP BOOKS "The Holy Bible: King James Version" copyright 1967 1) "Verbal Behavior" by Dr. B. F. Skinner 2) "Resurrection" by Leo Tolstoy 3) "The Idiot" by Fyodor Dostoevsky 4) "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev 5) Myth Adventures - series by Robert Asprin 6) The Chronicles of Narnia - series by C. S. Lewis 7) "War and Peace" by Leo Tolstoy
@sunkintree
@sunkintree 7 ай бұрын
"That is what would have remained for me if my life had been spared" Ah, but would it? Andrei had a similar sentiment when he first faced his possible immediate mortality, and then when he got better, that vanished and he returned back to worldly concerns. Would the message have really stuck now that he got it a second time? I am very skeptical. I thought Tolstoy was making a deep point about how strong the world is, and our worldly personality, and the tragedy that some of us will only understand how meaningless it is in extremis, only for the message to vanish when we regain our security. This is why Andrei was my favorite character of the book. He's so REAL. He's most people. Pierre, on the other hand, is who most people would like to be, for all his bumbling faults
@strawberryjacket4627
@strawberryjacket4627 2 жыл бұрын
amazing analysis, favorite video ever
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@ad5792
@ad5792 Жыл бұрын
"Мир" and "мiр", are two different words in Russian. One means peace, and the other means world. Original title had the "world" meaning. In 1920s letter "i" was removed from the alphabet. So now you have to infer from context, or just guess
@alvashoemaker8536
@alvashoemaker8536 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for this summary & explanation of this masterpiece; reading this work was left out of my education. (I’ll probably read it now…). AGAIN…THANK YOU! 👍🏼😃👍🏼👍🏼👣
@alvashoemaker8536
@alvashoemaker8536 2 жыл бұрын
I’m struck by Tolstoy’s insight into HUMAN NATURE…👍🏼👍🏼👣
@Fiction_Beast
@Fiction_Beast 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Mooseman327
@Mooseman327 Жыл бұрын
War and Peace is a great book and read. Why try to tear it down? I first read it as a teenager in just a few days (I did nothing else.) Anyone can read this book. Much easier to read than most post-modern fiction. Don't let people like this guy discourage you from reading it. Just do it.
@tombrunila2695
@tombrunila2695 2 жыл бұрын
To better understand these 19th century Russian authors you should read "The Russian Tradition" by Tibor Szamuely. He describes the different revolutionary movements in Russia and how they were influencing Russian society and how Russian society influenced them.
@tengizabulani9154
@tengizabulani9154 2 жыл бұрын
The beauty and greatness of classic is that it works out of context. And out of time
@ac-uk6hs
@ac-uk6hs Жыл бұрын
Amazing thank you!
@charleydublin7304
@charleydublin7304 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary
@dandelves
@dandelves 7 ай бұрын
Greatest novel of all time (that I have read)
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