fifth gear GT86

[@niceprince]

The music was just too loud :/

[@japandrej]

I like the GT86 but this editing is horrible, fast cuts and rave music do such a lousy job for the car. it's like a 90s video for the prodigy, so bad.

[@Sassannid]

please stop playing that awful music during car reviews. Couldn't watch the whole thing due to that annoying racket

[@TheRabbitFear]

to think fifth gear is meant to be more about the cars themselves

[@arkasaharay]

Music too loud. I mean way toooooo loud.

[@oddities-whatnot]

I would buy this simply because i like the whole package. Why do some people feel the need to redline and thrash cars all the time? I drive brisk when i NEED to. The fun in a car like this is enjoying normal driving ( roads do have speed limits ! ), and having enough power to overtake etc on a Sunday run out etc. to be honest, it could have 500 bhp and some folk wouldn't be happy. No pleasing some people. My advice is if you don't like it, then don't buy it :)

[@mustafagurlu4305]

Indeed, u r absolutely wright. I got my gt86 (in orange) three weeks ago. And even when you're doing 60 mph, it is much fun to drive. The seating position is very low, you can see a bit of the nice curving of the hoot, the seats are really holding you, shifting gear is very short and fast, turning corners is very easy due to the low point of gravity and when you do decide you have to accelerate, my god , the sound of the engine is really nice. And believe me, there certainly is a lot of power. I live in belgium, up untill now i have seen just one other gt86, there aren't that many gt's sold here, so people look a little strange when they pass. Can also be because it's a nice car, really it is..

[@teejyy]

Did you buy it with stock parts, or custom parts? I've been having a look around at trying to get one at about $27k AUD as it looks like a really nice car, and its pretty common to see used ones with aftermarket turbo and stuff to make it much more powerful (out of my price range though).

[@numbnutsAU]

I agree. This car is all about balance and if you don't want to understand this about the 86/BRZ then go and buy a Mustang or Z. I just bought a MY14 with 15,000km on the clock and I am in love with this car. It is so much fun to drive at any speed and when you want to push it I find it very accessible - I wouldn't have the talent to handle this car at its absolute limit yet alone with more power. I like that I can wring its neck and belt around corners way faster than I can in any other car I have ever owned and do it comfortably. On stock tyres it understeers when pushed but you can fix this with a decent set of tyres - I have Bridgestone Potenza RE003's on mine and it has way more grip than it did on the stock rubber. It is just a fabulous car.

[@perolito83]

It is for sale in the US, as the Scion FR-S.

[@TheBarrett1971]

You did see the test between the M3 and the 2011 Mustang GT with the track pack option, right? The lap time for the ZL-1 around the Ring is around a 7:43, pretty impressive for a mythical car.

[@190roverk]

I don't know what this guy is talking about. My FR-S also has great power for a 2.0L engine. Torque and throttle response is excellent. It's very nimble and sharp, comparable to my Z4M coupe in handling for sure! This is an excellent sports car. 9/10 for sure!

[@michaelkawaguchi1411]

This car is made for drifting and to have fun driving and it was also made to customize the engine if u don't like something u can change it thats the beauty of this car

[@SR300FM]

Correct me if I'm wrong but in a boxer engine, wouldn't the pistons rather fire TOWARDS each other?

[@robiulahmed]

+SR300FM No, they fire away from each other.

[@SR300FM]

But then I don't quite get it, because the crank is in the middle with 2 cylinders on each side. When it fires, the piston moves towards the middle i.e. the crank. Or, do you mean by "firing away" that when 1 piston moves towards the crank, the opposite one is then fired away ?

[@sbr7018]

Well, two cranks would increase weight and difficulty to replace, and it would be less balanced

[@pathdestroyer]

i agree....and 15 years down the line (or even earlier perhaps) it will be another exciting and favourable tuning and modding platform.

[@Ottaro]

ggah97 is on the mark. Toyota designed it, gave the direct injection technology for the engine and donated a modified Lexus IS-F auto-transmission. Engine, and chassis are built from scratch by Subaru and all 3, GT86, FRS and BRZ are made in the Subaru Gunma factory.

[@stra1129]

I love my GT86!!!!

[@jonaschen123]

Want one with 250bhp and more mid rev torque in blue and black rims

[@artemijivanovich]

Which season and episode is this?

[@24REXMAN]

What season and episode is this? Sorry, I'm new to Fifth Gear

[@shinkun15]

It will be delivered in September. I think I will enjoy.

[@ray1191]

ok yes the FT86 didnt have a 86X86 bore and stock, but the subura engine does, this car is design to proform like the AE86 and the 2000gt. P.S the name AE86 means Toyota code, the "A" represents the engine that came in the car (4A series), "E" represents the Corolla, "8" represents the fifth generation (E80 series) and "6" represents the variation within this generation. now im such you know that, know explan your theory

[@Bluudclaat]

I've now done just over 20 000km in my BRZ which is a lot of driving. Great car, and it makes my life a bit more fun every day :). But when you put your foot down not enough comes out, that's a fact. More power would be cool. But if t had more power I would not have bought it because I bet it would have increased the cost of the car. Anyone who knows a bit about cars can do it up to whatever spec you like! Duh. I drive long distance and the fuel economy on this car is great. 10/10 for what it is

[@philxdev]

thats the fact! did a testdrive and there is no other car out there except a lotus elise or a porsche cayman providing this kind of fun in driving.. this car will loose to all the turbo mainstreamcars out there in therms of laptimes but it is by far the most fun to drive!

[@gustafrenstrom8549]

have they hired the top gear sound guy?

[@ShanesAutos]

ive driven the gt86....love it, so buying one.

[@MegaG15]

HQ of Toyota is in Belgium ;) For Europe that is.

[@poxer1]

This car, i think, does not have too much power because Toyota made it in a way that allows the owner to tune it. I think they know that the power is not enough (according to the presenter of course) and this was the idea. They simply wanted it to have potential. Just like Nissan did with their GTR. It is fast but it can be tunned to amazing levels and to become even more fast and exciting. So, this is what i think :)

[@WeAreLegion1904]

Wait for the turbo version, they have to release it in the next few years.

[@coopsnz1]

if they built a turbo version it would cost 30000 pounds

[@INUMIMI28]

actually the gearbox is from Toyota it's originated from Altezza/Lexus IS200

[@periesicsd]

Back in the days, i owned a VW Golf II GTI 16v with 110kW. That little go-cart was so much more aggressive. In 2nd gear, it pulled to 110km/h, which is really not bad. And it was like a go-cart in the corners. Only, it had front drive, so sliding that, you had to work it. But it was fast for such a car. And it sounded so good with only a stock pipe, and a K&N Air-filter, especially in higher revs, it sounded so deep... Where are the days, only 23 back then... Oh well...

[@Raghav88]

I had the exactly the same car but in anniversary spec! With Pipercross viper induction!

[@tomelliott9]

What has any of that got to do with this video?

[@ShanesAutos]

No it doesnt compete because those are muscle cars and lets face it Camaro's and Mustangs are not aswel engineered as Euro or Jap cars, don't forget american muscle cars are cheap for a reason that is just a fact. But look ive driven the GT86 many times, ive experienced it as a sports car and as an everyday run around and I like it. It does what it was designed to. Lets also not forget it only cost €41,000 (£25,000). But anyway no point arguing over this because it's all about taste and opinion.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Is this any better than a well-driven Celica VVTL-i 190?

[@tomelliott9]

In terms of performance, it wont be much faster in a straight line. I have the Corolla with the 190 engine in it, and a GT86 couldn't get away from me tonight. Being rear drive, it will probably out handle the FWD Celica, and definitely out handle a Corolla.

[@OICU81272]

Without Toyota GT86 Subaru BRZ would not exist, best looking car Subaru has now really.

[@2tpg]

Toyota designed the body, interior, and fuel injection system. Subaru designed the chasis, suspension, engine, brakes... essentially everything else.

[@sammhine]

Well yeah. Cause this car isn't about 0-60 time. It's not about setting a fantastic time around a track. It's about fun. Cheap fun at that. They've created a relativity cheap, rear wheel drive car, and handles great. If you want something fast in a straight line and around a track, there's nothing stopping you getting a GT-R. There's more to cars than 0-60 time.

[@sparrowlt]

I know what the AE86 code means .. i mean that this new GT86 was named after the AE86, Toyota saying "its because it has a 86X86" its them being lame .. as the homenage 86 was there from the very first concepts

[@polopowered]

I love my GT86 xxx

[@FXscrubFX]

I'm turning 16 next year and I'm trying to see if there are any good cars out there, I like JDM but it would be hard to find cars like the Supra or R34. I feel like this would be a great first car for the pricing. The body looks beautiful and it sounds great. I was thinking of getting the Subaru BRZ though. Any other good cars like this?

[@sixxTranz]

I've got one as 16 year old as MT, I will warn you that the clutch is VERY different to most other cars, so adjusting and learning might be a bit difficult.

[@TheRabbitFear]

nobody will insure a 16 year old with such a powerful car

[@sixxTranz]

Step 1: Tell Insurance the main driver is a parent or guardian even if they aren't and self as a secondary driver Step 2: Profit?!???!?!?! and it isn't particularly powerful either...

[@TheRabbitFear]

that won't work, you are still listed as a 16 year old needing to be insured to drive a powerful car

[@sixxTranz]

Different in Australia I guess, Learner drivers don't need to be insured for as a listed driver. Either way it works over here.

[@Mr290195]

Why is there a Belgian license plate on the car?

[@PhamstaX]

if you think the 86 needs more power, you are missing the point and concept of the car. N/A and ridiculously lightweight, its made to be done up.

[@fatboy19831]

IF The 86 was in the states it would be 30k and the dealer mark up would be crazy. That would also hurt sales. Making the FRS made positive the car would be affordable to Americans. It has to sale in large numbers in the states for the cars to make a profit. You can by an FRS today for 25k in the states. It only comes one way. Look at how much mark up is on the BRZ in the states. They made the right move. Badge snobs can buy the BRZ.

[@hawkesworth1712]

Note to Jason - if you want to know how a car performs on a public road don't cross the centre line on any bends.

[@TheAtroxistos]

different car in the track look at the seats the road ones are red on the top but the track ones not

[@ezpages]

@gaurav391 Majority of the Fifth Gear presenters are active professional racing drivers. Top Gear presenters consist of 2 Journalists and a radio disc jockey. The world spins in the same direction but listens in the wrong one.

[@ghostridertom]

Yeah, but when you have someone skilled with RXs it is no problem with reliability and the price difference is crazy. I am not at all saying anything bad about GT and BRZ - they are great and new and more reliable and fun. But RX is slightly more in some areas but with some setbacks. :-) Love mine RX so no need to get the new TOYOBARU. Love both.

[@portoguisen2k]

Testdrove one and loved the handling... But yes, it does need more power! Also, am I the only one to be annoyed by the soundlevel off the music?

[@djcarbine]

Power is not everything. That being said, I supercharged mine for ~260whp. Lots of fun in this sort of car.

[@Josh1901]

But the Scion FR-S is the Toyota GT86

[@Rusiputki]

People praise the Scion because it's RWD and it's lightweight, 2 factors that no longer exist in 2013. Most cars are over 1500kg now a days and have too many electric aids and luxury. Hell even the RX8 is heavy for what it is, my E36 comes at pretty much the same weight as that car (1340kg) and it's a lot more weight reduction capable once you put it on a diet.

[@1061shrink1061]

he's Jason Plato I think he knows exactly what this car is about

[@sparrowlt]

Well.. if TopGear is right Toyota has a deal with Subaru in Europe that they can sell one BRZ per a lot of GT86s.. so is not like they care much about Subaru..

[@BobUy00]

It is the new AE86. I agree with you that Toyota is being weird by justifying the 86 moniker with the 86x86 bore/stroke since the BEAMS 3SGE also had an 86x86 bore/stroke. Sadly the weight is unavoidable because of the higher safety standards, since it doesn't look to have anything unnecessary at all. Although it does (in japan) COST the same as the AE86. I'm guessing toyota doesn't want to call it the new 86 because that might hurt BRZ sales. But really its obvious what inspired it really..

[@Ares310788]

audio WAY too loud.... who edited this?!

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Love the avatar.. It is a drivers car, but it lacks torque, maybe 50 lb/ft, not sure why though...

[@jimvest]

Nice car but in Finland taxes completely killed this car, basic model costs 47 000 €

[@jaskamakynen7766]

Agreed

[@ph4rmy]

You can buy it in other EU counties. For example in Slovakia price starts at 30 000 €

[@jimvest]

ph4rmy in Finland Toyota GT86 starts at 47 000 € and if you buy car from another country you stilk have to pay taxes again

[@AlecKeeler63]

you could move :-)

[@GastonMaqueda]

+jimvest That is bad I payed 25.000 CAD$ for mine in Canada . (16.000 Euros)

[@sparrowlt]

Toyota can say what they want.. everybody knows that the 86 comes from the AE86 as this car was born as a "new AE86" .. literally.. i renember when they were saying it was going to have a 1.5 engine with 130/140hp and just less than 1000kg.. That first concept was called FT86 and it didnt had a 86X86 stroke/bore engine

[@BrutalMetalViking]

I want one...Black with black rims. Then chip it, to around 250bhp. Then, it's my reasonable dream car.

[@StewMM]

If I had the money and know-how, I'd try and wedge in the 3.0L Flat-6.

[@Rusiputki]

Im sorry to say but as an actual experienced LPG owner (donkeys years) and now moving to methan gas which is even cheaper, thats not the case. You will loose power, and economy will actually go up a bit, say you were doing 10l/100km with gas it will got to 12l/100km. But my whole question was why buy a fast car to LPG it. You will make it heavy and gutless. Buy something like touring that has best of both worlds, well minus handling.

[@kribar96]

It's never enough torque or hp...oh just a little bit more. I think it's a well balanced car for decent money. It's no track car, it's made for public roads.

[@yz2504eva]

Sorry guys, but if im going to a buy a lightweight, front engine, rear wheel drive with LSD, high revving small capacity engine, japenese coupe; then im gonna do it properly and buy an rx8. seriously, its got more hp, its lighter, its just as good around the bends, it has a classier finish and it has an engine that loves to be fanged, what more could u ask for?

[@DaveSimkus]

Awesome music but i cant hear what he's saying

[@stinger15au]

You obviously missed the point of the car. Personally i was thinking about buying one and had the same reservations, too slow i thought. Coming from twin turbo audi's, R34 GTR's and supercharged v8's. I was both wrong and right, it is slow, and lacks low end torque, but it was so god dam fun to drive in the twisties i just didn't care, the steering is perfectly weighted, the brakes strong, the car light and nimble. It won't set any track records but i guarantee the owners wont care one bit

[@MikeJones-in3uk]

the damn background music drove me crazy!!! fuck!

[@blazemk]

only 200 hp ? why .....

[@skylineXpert]

even jeremy clarkson praises this car

[@BobUy00]

More power =/= better. It also is heavier and wider. While the toyota only came about through proper petrol heads in toyota holding the accountants and sales managers by the balls so they can build a proper sports car. Seriously, if a car began life with the words: “Forget about minivans. You are now working on the sports car project.” You know it's going to be a good one. No, we aren't kissing toyotas nuts. In fact, it's Tada and Toyoda we are bowing to.

[@ggah97]

well toyota fans will talk that subaru copyed gt 86 and subaru fans will say toyota copyed BRZ THAY MADE IT TOGETHER and fift gear talked about it like toyota made it and subaru helped to make tho motor and that body on BRZ is a bit different BRZ and GT86 ARE COOL AS HELL

[@motogte]

He's talking balls you dont need too throw it into the corners to make it powerslide clarkson was able to make it step out at 30mph!

[@gaurav391]

Top Gear GT86 bit: 350,000 views Fifth Gear GT86 bit: 30,000 views the world is spinning in the right direction.

[@snoozymoo]

why is a english driving left hand drive?

[@B00h44]

Belgian plates? :p

[@SlideShowz-f9q]

To make it affordable lol And it seems the engineers want to put emphasize on handling.

[@X3WCMod]

Music's way too loud. Can't hear the speaker properly!

[@AdrianMatson]

Im have to own a GT86 someday

[@rey1164]

let me clear shit up for you guys, the GT86, BRZ, n FRS, were created by both Toyota and Subaru, the concept came from the AE86 which is reason it handles the way it does, also why is called GT86 in Japan and Europe in conclusion without the AE86, Subaru, and Toyota there is no GT86,BRZ, or FRS, so quit arguing and enjoy the fact that a car company actually came out with a drivers car that most people can afford. the balls on your court Nissan....

[@stanczyk11111]

..everybody says // notenough "grunt" .. yes it needs stronger engine (maybe Supercharger ... Turbo for Subaru[ btw; Surabu needs diferent design ... what they were thinking - 2 identical cars ?!? .

[@ChristiannTyler]

7.6 seconds is incorrect I watched a 6 manual stock get 6.3 0-60

[@Treys_Waterboy]

I like the car, hate the music. Idiots! Spoiled an otherwise decent review.

[@Smith19858]

is it really? i didn't know that, cheers! and then to say i'm actually from belgium :o

[@FinalBossWTMN]

Uh...WHAT? If you mean the new GTR's.....uh....stock....they were the fastest production car in the world until the ZR1 came out.....and they absolutely decimate anything in their price range...... And if you mean the old skylines.....they were very fast for their time stock, lol, VR4's, Skylines, and Supras basically had a competition going and they were all fast.

[@hawkesworth1712]

It really pisses me off when these idiots go on TV telling us how well a road car handles when they clearly can't go round a bend on a public road without crossing the centre line. If you want to test handling on a public road then keep the bloody car on your side of the road.

[@Nemoticon]

More importantly... it's balanced! If you don't have enough power, you are either in the wrong car or the wrong gear. Having no torque forces you to learn how drive drive the old way, with technique & skill. Modern cars are made for idiots who just mash the pedal in any gear and expect things to happen = for people chasing paper stats, not characteristics.

[@TheAngryOak]

And this my friends is the reason that Top Gear reaches 100's of millions and 5th gear, well doesn't!

[@Teefs69]

8years have passed not a single like?😭

[@the26thhour]

Lets face it, the 1st thing ppl are doing with these is fitting a super/turbo charger. & once that`s in, its only rival on any car having done the same, is the MX5 & that will still come a fare 2nd, over all.

[@abdulbade]

in saudi arabia it costs 16500 pounds

[@Borrisbeaner]

I was about to ask who the random asian man at the end was but then realized it was Tiff

[@treycecamper959]

@ 3:54 the tops down and its raining right inside of the car lol

[@brzutt]

This car tiks all the boxes for me too bad i cant afford it :( will have to stay with my fiesta

[@m109rocket]

Your right 200hp? my Vmax has 200hp ...

[@periesicsd]

test drove it, but it was too slow. From 0 to 100 km/h = 7,6 seconds... That's damn slow for such a car and 200 horses... It needs at least 250 horses to do some damage...

[@fatboy19831]

Why? Just buy a 370z. Dropping a six in the GT86 would make it nose heavy and well...... by the time you beef up the brakes, rear dif, clutch, tires you have an 86 250 to 300 pounds more dear or about 100 pounds lighter than the Z.

[@veuseltjes]

i dont get one thing he is in spain driving a Belgium car or is he driving it in Belgium telling peeps he is in spain ;)

[@yeos001]

The Music TOO Loud ....

[@Bazuzeus]

The most important thing is : I LIKE MINE SO MUCH ^^

[@Rich.ard72]

Yz2504eva Make a sure you join th AA when you get your RX8, ask your self this, why can I pick up a RX8 so cheap? I've just been offered my friends RX8, 06 with 24k on the clock for £2500, alarm bells were ringing. I found out there shit. GT86 or BRZ all the way.

[@TnKStuntMan]

you mean 1985.5 to 1987.5

[@Snackkbar]

"POWAAAAAH!"-Jeremy Clarkson.

[@tomhuibers333]

Music is just terrible.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

its a car for drivers

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

Why the hell do people keep pronouncing it 'Eighty Six'? Even Clarkson. If they knew anything, they'd know the name comes from the old 'Hachi-Roku' AE86 Sprinter which was pronounced 'Eight-Six'

[@londislagerhound]

Woeful audio mix.

[@Smith19858]

those are belgian licenseplates... on a uk carshow in spain... wtf o.O