Fighter Pilot Rates 'Top Gun' Action Scenes For Realism | How Real Is It? | Insider

[@erakfishfishfish]

But how would he rate the volleyball scene?

[@johnnytransam5894]

Gay. Very gay. And I’m ok with that.

[@erakfishfishfish]

@@johnnytransam5894 that was my only complaint with TG: Maverick - not gay enough.

[@outofturn331]

I'm here for the love making scene

[@User-54631]

8 on the gay scale. Not as bad as the Rocky 4 embracing Apollo in the surf In short shorts Which is fine no issue here.

[@johnnytransam5894]

@@erakfishfishfish They tried to gay it up with the beach football stuff. But they ruined it with women.

[@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319]

I REALLY like this gentleman. The worst episodes of this show are when the guests can't differentiate between a documentary and a cinematic film. And they judge them harshly because they don't adhere 100% to realism. Some of the best are when the subject matter expert understands that there is a distinction between the two and they can allow their suspension of disbelief to carry them to where a good film is trying to take them. This pilot is the latter. He knows that movies aren't a 1:1 with reality and he can sit back and say "This is still great fun." aside from that. And he even takes a moment to explain that he understands why they did it. Great breakdown.

[@outofturn331]

You don't need an expert to judge the entertainment value

[@ObliviousPenguin]

I prefer when they go hard in the paint, nitpicking it for realism, because I learn a lot more from those kinds of videos. We don't need a fighter pilot to judge its entertainment value, when we can do that ourselves. He should be there to tell us things we don't know.

[@S-RankGoon]

Exactly what I wanted to say, other pilot reviewers are overly critical and it paints them in a negative light

[@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319]

@@jm-fe1iz I understand that. That hasn't escaped me. By all means, do inform us as to what's realistic about a scene and how it stands up against real life. That's the whole point of the show. What kills me is when the experts take it personal. I recently watched another episode where the subject matter expert not only talked about how aspects of the film they were reviewing weren't true to real life, but decided to push it quite a bit forward. They immediately went on to say how they had refused to watch what they called the "silly movies" and even refused to give a rating at all. At which point I can't help but say to myself that if you want that level of absolute adherence to realism, then that's what documentaries are for. Not Hollywood dramas. And it's not really fair to judge one against the other because that's comparing apples to oranges. It was all really negative even though the films the person was talking about were objectively good films in their own rights and they all set out to convey the emotions and mindset that they wanted to portray to the audience. (For instance, one of the films in question currently has a 7.5 on IMDb and a 98% Rotten Tomatoes... So I'm not going off of just my personal opinion.) Episodes like that one that are so aggressively negative come off very wrong. And I'm just happy that this gentleman is able to say what's not true to life while still being able to sit back and say that a movie still works and is good in spite of its dramatization by Hollywood. (It also helps that he's actually watched the films in full context as opposed to just looking at a handful of 30 second clips and calling them garbage.)

[@GoodDealDave]

Appreciate it!

[@paulriccio5333]

This guy is awesome. So genuinely enthusiastic and not only is an expert, but he understands and appreciates movies. Great video.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@jxntxn1462]

@@GoodDealDave I don't think they know it's actually you responding to their comments😅

[@GoodDealDave]

@@jxntxn1462ha! I hope they do! I’m trying to keep up.

[@Timmycoo]

The way he speaks, can totally tell he was an instructor lol.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@jxntxn1462I think you’re right. I’m doing my best!!!

[@fergiebiker]

I chatted with a recently retired navy pilot, and his assessment of these movies is very close to yours. Also, his dad was an old navy pilot and I asked him if he ever saw Top Gun, and he said when the movie came out he was actually in Top Gun, the school not the movie.

[@michaelb1761]

They didn't mention it at the beginning, but Dave Burke was a Top Gun instructor and eventually ran Top Gun before becoming an F22 and F35 pilot and instructor. They undersold his bona fides.

[@fergiebiker]

@@michaelb1761 yeah, I’m familiar with Dave Burk from the JOCKO podcast

[@aaron6268]

We had a guy like that at career day. Same height, weight, and cool blond hair. It was weird but you got the feeling he was a good pilot.

[@t1rnrnyuk]

@@michaelb1761 i guess they wanted people to read the t shirt :D

[@VladRuskie]

@@fergiebiker Jocko is a goof, wish Shawn Ryan would have him on

[@wernerheenop]

Favorite line from the Franchise: "Your ego is writing checks your body cant cash"

[@ejpierle]

Mav, you got the number of that truck driving school we saw on TV? Truck Masters, I think it is. I might need that.

[@GoodDealDave]

Classic

[@Steve-gx9ot]

That is nit a great line from movie = it is CHEESEY and just used in reference to original top gun

[@arnavbordoloi7878]

or as Casey Stoner said to Valentino Rossi, "your ambition outweighed your talent."

[@hugebear53]

​@arnavbordoloi7878 yup, an absolute bs statement from the guy who the year before had the same thing happen to him at least twice, while on the Ducati. I thought he was great but lost a lot of respect for him after that, I'm sure he loses sleep over over it too. BTW, he's still one of the greats

[@planetim]

I flew F-16As in the 1980s. I loved the flying scenes in this movie. In my day we were all about low level ingress to popup attacks with dumb bombs. Also, did not have any indicator of AGL level, so it was using the Mk-1 eyeball to be roughly 300 ft on the low level.

[@GoodDealDave]

The fightin A! I loved flying the slick Viper.

[@sayemdidar4026]

My man flew F18, F 22 and F35...can you imagine

[@brothermanv]

Bro won at life. Very few pilots have a cooler resume

[@GoodDealDave]

And the F-16!

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

The F-18 is a Hellcat, the F-22 is a Ferrari...the F-35 is a worthless Maserati. Even when it's running, it's nothing to write home about and only makes you realize how much better the Ferrari is.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@justinlast2lastharder749I loved them all. If I’m going to war, I’m taking the F-35. No question about it.

[@zonegaming23]

@@justinlast2lastharder749 F-22 Mustang

[@nicholas_scott]

I remember the IR Flare against Radar missiles was talked about when the movie came out, but other pilots had said you normally release both when you see a missile because you don't know which kind of missile it is.... but you can only see the flare, not the chaffe. So it might not be wrong. Great video, he is th most generous expert I've seen on this channel

[@GoodDealDave]

Accurate!

[@TexasGreed]

The guy flew F-18s, F-22s and F-35s.... That is nuts.

[@GoodDealDave]

And F-16's!

[@shane7133]

The wildest part is the fact that he did it as a Marine. No other human has his resume.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@shane7133they do say timing is everything. I lucked out for sure.

[@shane7133]

​@@GoodDealDaveIve seen you on a few podcasts and always wanted to ask you a question. After a career of legendary accomplishments, is it tough to find fulfilment doing anything else?

[@GoodDealDave]

@@shane7133​​⁠not at all. I believe in the mission at EF and have never been happier! But it can be tough for vets…you have to transition to another mission you believe in.

[@abdieljimenez6129]

Alternative title: Fighter Pilot explains why Top Gun is Top🔝

[@GoodDealDave]

I like it.

[@FingrBlastr69]

This man did a fantastic job. Please bring him back for any other movies involving fighter pilots

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@bigfowlboski]

As someone who served in the Air Force ( not a pilot ) but supported with AWACS this dude is the real deal. Humble with humility and highly trained. Thank you for dedication and service. We were all safer because of you.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on man. Thank you.

[@monstermegahoschi]

Well, he's navy, so... But still, nobody's perfect so there is a point to your statement.

[@markymarknj]

@@monstermegahoschi WATCH IT! I'm a Navy vet too. All I can say is it take IRON MEN for iron ships! Not everyone can do that... 😉

[@shane7133]

This dude is the real deal. I would highly recommend looking him up on Jocko Willinks podcast, where they go over this movie in detail for almost an hour.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on.

[@MacOriginalGamer]

The F-22: "Would you intercept me? I'D intercept me..."

[@jacksquat2067]

"I'd intercept me so hard."

[@historicalhijinks3058]

It makes me so happy that I see quotes from HLC everywhere now. The man has become mainstream.

[@SylviusTheMad]

@@historicalhijinks3058 I ordered a Buff-Franklin 2024 shirt, and I don't even live in the US.

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

And we all know that these enemy aircraft belong to Slavic Special Ed.....

[@LibertyandFreedom4]

West Taiwan has entered the chat

[@ChetJang]

I remember years ago getting buzzed by an F18 while driving through the desert. An F18 turned right in front of me just a couple of hundred yards above the ground. The blast knocked my car several lanes over, but I still thought it was cool. I was at the top of a mountain, and an A10 went right over me. I was surprised at how little blast there was.

[@GoodDealDave]

Awesome

[@Sent-x8t]

Glad he could separate fun from fact and still rate it without being condescending.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on.

[@apolloaero]

For the mach 10 ejection, if they had the whole cockpit act as a capsule, and they showed Maverick getting out of said capsule, it would've done wonders for ejecting at mach 10, which is completely ridiculous

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Cmon bruh, it's not like the air friction would tear through his suit or anything, pssshh...

[@JJones-g2f]

Unless that capsule has some way to reduce its rate of deceleration, the human inside is still going to be pasted.

[@apolloaero]

@@JJones-g2f inside the capsule, deceleration wouldn't be immediate and he wouldn't be exposed like with a normal ejection seat. In a normal ejection, you get hit by a blast of compressed air. At those speeds, the capsule could eject from the aircraft and then deploy it's parachute or whatever after it has slowed down or reached a certain altitude, whatever is safer. Sort of like a reentry capsule

[@dakota3c06]

B58 Hustler had capsule but Mach 2

[@markymarknj]

Another pilot said that, when the Darkstar started having problems, it would've markedly slowed down, so the actual ejection wouldn't have been at Mach 10. Also, if a crew capsule was used, that would help too.

[@petere.9138]

Viper’s “thaaaaats it, thaaaats it” perfectly inflects to the call sign. I did love when people said the flat spin wasn’t realistic, then the real Vioer (Pete Pettigrew) pulled an actual case file.

[@GoodDealDave]

It’s real for sure.

[@petere.9138]

@@GoodDealDave I may not have worded it right. I just mean the other people who believe they are right. I caught an interview with (real) Viper and he even addressed those people who said it could never happen.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@petere.9138 Totally...you nailed it! It's absolutely a thing

[@WilliamBurdine]

BEST INSIDER YET!!!! Especially since it covered two generations of the film and multiple air frames.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@nobodynoone3356]

01:09 i think it would be better if when he ejected the whole cockpit came out kinda like those mechs in gundam

[@jordanwiseman9544]

Or like the f 111 aardvark

[@VikingTeddy]

Or just go hardcore and go through the canopy. Some jets just have detcord snaking through the canopy and ejecting throws you through it. Iirc the Harrier has one of these.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

Didn’t the SR-71 have this too?

[@egmccann]

@@Fabulousprofound168 Nope.

[@duckshot]

​@jordanwiseman9544 I believe the B-1 also has this.

[@David-yy7lb]

Retired F14 pilot here, your assessment of Top gun Maverick is spot on I couldn't agree more with your narration of both movies 👍🏿👍🏿

[@GoodDealDave]

That’s awesome to hear man…appreciate you.

[@rchapman7]

Love hearing from Dave Berke. So much knowledge and so many lessons to share. He’s the real deal!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@johnriddington9514]

On the Mach 10 ejection...there's theoretical and real info on Mach 3 ejections from the SR 71. Theoretically the pilots would reach a temperature of 230C ejecting at Mach 3, which their suits could handle, who knows what temp Mach 10 would result in. Realistically - the pilots had to keep their bodies within the confines of the ejector seat when the left the Blackbird at Mach 3, otherwise the 'wind speed' hitting them would tear them apart. One pilot ejected, his arm got dragged outside the protection of the seat, and he describes HIS ARM as "spinning like a windmill" in the air.

[@ТолянЖига]

For example soviet MiG-25 catastrophe: low altitude, system control malfunction, incorrect speed indication cuz real was much much more higher. Ejecting. Extremely wind stream at low altitude. Multiple fractures. R.I.P.. For hypersonic - capsule ejecting maybe (something like F-111).

[@chrisinsocalif]

I am going to assume there is an ejection pod that is shielded to slow the pilot down as the first stage of the ejection process.

[@slacker7781]

Dave, as a former navy Vietnam A-4 puke, I must say I enjoy your take on the movie discussion at the opening of Top Gun Mavrick. Too many navy pilots forget it’s a movie and has scenes that are what we call Hollywood. However, with that said when I first saw Top Gun I was blown away especially seeing the A-4 as an adversary. It was a great movie that made showcased Naval Air and navy/marine pilots. I flew for a major airline, and I can tell you, the air force pilots hated it. Envy. They always hated when I brought a copy of the Hook on a trip. Your comments are realist in context that it’s a Movie. Both Top Gun movies, they hit out of the park. Well done Dave

[@GoodDealDave]

I really appreciate this, and your service. Glad we see it the same too...I wanted to offer some insights into the realism, without losing sight that it was a movie - an awesome one at that. And the sequel was fantastic too. As for the A-4...who doesn't love the Hot Rod! Must have been a blast to fly.

[@B-A-L]

Don't worry, the USAF boys always have Iron Eagle 1, 2, 3 and 4 to fall back on!

[@GoodDealDave]

@@B-A-Lha! Love it.

[@BokushingusKendoTV]

I had the opportunity to take care of a patient post op that was a verified SR 71 pilot. Absolutely, all the staff loved hearing his experiences! I have to admit, he was such a kool guy!

[@Wonkabar007]

Great content really fun to watch.

[@gld1010]

Thank you for having Dave conduct a professional review. Semper Fi to all Marines!

[@GoodDealDave]

Semper Fi

[@zoanth4]

I was an f16 avionics tech, love these vids, spot on!

[@GoodDealDave]

Boom

[@markymarknj]

Sir, from a Navy vet, thank you for your service. Now, I'd like to ask some questions and make some comments WRT TGM. One, there was a British pilot (can't remember his name) who commented on the terrain confusing the Felon's targeting system. He said that it could happen, because the rocks below would heat up and the sight would see them, thus causing confusion. I can't remember his name now, but he's a former Tornado pilot who had a video on TGM. Two, when they flew inverted to dive on the target, I understand that you all also do this for the positive Gs; flying right side up, you'd induce negative Gs, which could pop the blood vessels in your eyes, right? Anyway, other fighter pilots on YT said that positive Gs are preferred, which is also why they go inverted. Keeping the target in sight makes sense too. Three, about hitting the brakes and suddenly slowing down, I know that F4F Wildcat pilots used to do this against Zeroes in the early years of WWII. I remember reading about it. They'd hit the flaps, which would cause the pursuing Zero to overshoot; once the Zero was in front of them, they could nail it with their 50s. I don't know if modern jets could also do this, but I know that in the past, hitting the brakes was a thing for fighter pilots to do. Four, WRT the missiles and the flares, couldn't the attacking planes also mix in chaff with the flares to confuse the radar guided SAMs? I understand that fighters can be equipped with a mix of countermeasures for both IR and radar missiles. In any case, the flares add to the drama of the scene. Five, do you think that the post attack, SAM scene captures the chaos of battle? If you guys were under attack from SAMs, would the scene be chaotic as it was depicted in the movie? In any case, that scene adds to the action and the drama. I LOVE IT! Six, would our F-18, even the Super Hornet, be hopelessly outclassed by the Su-57, as is depicted in the movie? If you were flying he Super Hornet, how would you combat a supermaneuverable Russian fighter like the Flanker series or the Felon? That leads me to my related and final point: besides the F-22 (which we don't have enough of, thanks to Commie Obama), no US fighters have thrust vectoring, nor are they supermaneuverable. Why is that? Why doesn't the US emphasize supermaneuverability more? I know that we've researched both in the X-31 project decades ago. The Russians see value in supermaneuverability and dogfighting. Why don't we? Why don't we emphasize that as much? Is it because BVR combat is more of a thing, and that a BVR centric fighter will need different attributes vs. a WVR centric fighter? If you see this and can answer these, thank you. Perhaps you could do one or more videos addressing these topics? I'd like to learn more. Thanks!

[@GoodDealDave]

Oh man…a ton here to answer. Let me put something more detailed together and reply.

[@markymarknj]

@@GoodDealDave TYSM! I look forward to your answer, Sir.

[@Dyson_Cyberdynesystems]

7:50 Well Pako in his interview with Ward Carroll stated that the GBU-24 Paveway III has several delivery modes and Rooster was using a point and shoot attack which had the bomb glide to the Velocity Vector which is in fact shown in a movie and probably more realistic than 99.9% of people realized.

[@GoodDealDave]

Dual mode is a great option

[@danlambert1061]

I flew the F-4 [CV-64] in '71 (Nam) THANK YOU FOR THIS SHOW! It's been 50 years for me and lit up the magic in my mind!! God, they actually paid us to do this!😅

[@GoodDealDave]

Awesome…I have some traps on the Connie as well. Good living. Thanks for your service.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

Around 9:00 - I'm not trying to contradict a guy that's actually been there and done that, but the countermeasures against the SAMs show the pilots hitting a button labeled "Flares/Chaff." The chaff would have some effect against the SAMs. From a filmmaking standpoint, chaff doesn't look that exciting on film, so the flares are added just for the visual pop.

[@pogo1140]

I don't think you can see chaff at all on film

[@GoodDealDave]

Valid!

[@KainsAddiction]

​@pogo1140 You can but it's just a "poof", doesnt look like much

[@GoodDealDave]

@@KainsAddictionexactly. That’s why the flares were used in the movie. They look very cool.

[@pogo1140]

@@KainsAddiction and in a fast moving film, you won't see it at all

[@alecmoriarty]

Always love seeing a video with David Burke in it! Badass video 🤙

[@GoodDealDave]

Thanks!

[@TangoCharlie-mz8lh]

I love a little bit of "Won't get fooled again" sneaking in 😂

[@egmccann]

Going from memory here - and I wouldn't expect him to know it - early on, the F-14's ejection system was dangerous to RIOs due to the timing - it was fairly similar to what happened to Goose. As I recall, a small change in the timing of when everything went off improved survivability.

[@johnwanderin3872]

From what I hear, the F-14A is pretty quick to go into a flat spin during a flameout because of the engines they used and the angle they were mounted out and the spin was hard to recover from. It was a problem they fixed with the B model.

[@GoodDealDave]

True

[@TheUnforgiven69]

*As a retired RCAF pilot/instructor if I see "Dave Berke" I instawatch and click like because I know its going to be great content.* _I never had the pleasure of flying or meeting Chip but know obviously he is a highly skilled Legend._ Subscribed.

[@GoodDealDave]

Thanks man!

[@stevenPounder-p4b]

My largest gripe with the last dog fight in the movie was a small but visually/audibly annoying problem with both planes firing guns. Both aircraft’s guns had the cyclic rate of a .50Cal. It just looked at sounded like crap for no respond to me. I get it the F14 had a small amount of ammunition from the get go and SU-35 would have burrt the F14 so they had to extend the scene.

[@Ste-_.]

You mean su57

[@stevenPounder-p4b]

@@Ste-_. Yes whatever it’s called.

[@borshardsd]

The guest on here

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on.

[@michaelw2263]

Top Gun vs Top Gun Maverick is a great example of Nostalgia Goggles. While Maverick may be more realistic or even better of a movie, I can't help but pick the original over it. Simply because the music, the F14 Tomcat, and the overall cheesiness of it are so ingrained in my head. Also, no one will ever be able to convince me that anything is more cool than an F14 Tomcat

[@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319]

Even the creators of Maverick knew the F-14 is the undisputed sex symbol of dogfighting...that's why the last 15 minutes of the movie is dedicated to one demolishing two 5th gen fighters in a way not unlike how Mike Tyson will destroy Jake Paul.

[@outofturn331]

Foxbat: hold my vodka

[@jamses23]

@@outofturn331The Foxbat is a flying turd with massive engines. It has a wider turning radius than Neptunes orbit. Pure commie garbage.

[@fuzz11111111]

​@@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319oh yeah, the first time I saw TG Maverick in the cinema and watched the mission briefing scene (where they mentioned the enemy having F14's) I whispered to my wife "maverick is going to fly one of those planes", and I was happy to find out I was right. I know the F14 scenes were unrealistic (a bit fanservicy too) but I don't care it was awesome, as was the rest of the movie. Not sure why I find the look of the F14 so appealing but yeah I agree with you there 100% (I also think the Ferrari F40 is the prettiest car ever made so maybe there's something in that somewhat utilitarian aesthetic that I find appealing).

[@ryhk3293]

FIrst, of all F15>>>F14, in every iteration, variation by humiliation, every day, all day, and twice on Sundays. That's not arguable. That's a fact... Jack. So now that we got that out of the way, you 're also wrong about Top Gun being better than Top Gun 2: Son of Top Gun. I don't remember smelling so many cut up onions watching the first movie.

[@devnulleee1987]

13:39 timestamp. The image shows the Thunderbirds but is captioned incorrectly as Blue Angels 😅

[@BlyGuy]

Chip Berke is the only human on Earth and likely to be the only human in history to be qualified on the Viper, Hornet, Raptor and Lightning II (aka Fat Amy). What a legend. When asked which platform he'd want to drive into a hot and hairy sortie, without hesitation he said Fat Amy due to the incredible situational awareness she provides.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@BlyGuy]

@@GoodDealDave did we just become best friends? In my mind we did haha. Jokes aside, thank you for your service to this great country and everything you've done to push military aviation forward.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@BlyGuy YEP! Ha!...thanks man

[@challenger2031]

I would like to add the guy here reviewing is just so enthusiastic. Personally the balance between realism and fiction is ok as long as you don't ruin the image of that film. Alot of online reviewers should take note of this guys knowledge and passion!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@gcorriveau6864]

The thing that makes both Top Gun movies a ton of fun for me is how they were filmed in real aircraft with the actors (in the rear cockpits) experiencing real G maneuvers. With CGI and $$ realities of today, I doubt we'll see production values like that much any more. It was cool that the sequel was at least as good as (and true to) the original. Thanks for this video.... Now - "I feel the neeed!"

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally.

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

They've used a _ton_ of CGI for Top Gun: Maverick. In some scenes, all that's real are the pilots - everything else, the background, the planes, the _cockpits_ - are CGI. I mean, they are no flyable F-14s today, and no Su-57s either, right?

[@kineticdeath]

@@Jan_Strzelecki to be fair there are active duty Su-57's, but not many and they are all russian owned - I dont think Putin would be willing to turn over a few and the pilots for a movie, especially one where his planes are depicted being destroyed by a long decommissioned adversary

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Well except for certain directors. Like Christopher Nolan or George Miller

[@KevinMcNulty]

Need a fighter pilot to rate this video for realism. 6:46 Shows the laser designating pod and mislabels it as the bomb's laser detector 13:40 Shows the Thunderbirds and labels them the Blue Angels 17:36 Shows an F-4 Phantom when talking about the A-4 Skyhawk 17:54 Shows bomb dropping when talking about missile minimum range Normally, I wouldn't expect journalistic editors to necessarily know the b-roll that well, but you had a fighter pilot on the video, you couldn't have had him watch the cut before releasing it?

[@brothermanv]

My goodness. As an AV Geek, these mistakes made me physically uncomfortable 🤢 lol They shoulda had the pilot review the video before release

[@LazyScoutJace]

I missed the Thundebirds part, but strangely caught the F4 Phantom as the A4

[@GoodDealDave]

I’ll work on it!

[@dominiclemire2540]

Good, I'm not the only one that saw those little errors. If you are going to do nitpiking on movie for realism, you should be sure to not make that same mistake by yourself. :P

[@GoodDealDave]

@@dominiclemire2540good point.

[@gregp1409]

Great job breaking down the clips. Only issue I saw was in editing. He talks about the laser detector that guides the bomb but the video shows the ATFLIR and calls it the laser detector. The ATFLIR is the system that paints the target with the laser energy that is used to guide the bomb. Best part for me was calling out using flares against radar guided missals. The missal scene in Behind Enemy Lines still makes me laugh at how unrealistic it is.

[@GoodDealDave]

Roger!

[@lightpawshird]

Thank you for your service! Nice to see another military pilot give realistic ratings to things. I was a pilot in the AirForce, my plane was the F-16. I wanted to get ahold of the Raptor YF-22 but I never made the rank to get into those before I left.

[@GoodDealDave]

Interesting

[@TimeSkip-Chapters]

⏱️ Timestamps by TimeSkip ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:01:09 - Mock 10 Ejection Realism 00:01:48 - Dog Fighting Training 00:03:11 - Maneuvering in Dog Fights 00:04:46 - Low Altitude Pop Maneuver 00:06:39 - Laser-Guided Bombs Explained 00:07:12 - G-Force Effects on Pilots 00:08:50 - Missile Evasion Tactics 00:14:10 - Realism in Dog Fight Scenes 00:18:15 - Target Fixation in Combat 00:18:50 - Jet Wash and Control Issues 00:19:22 - Flat Spin Emergency Procedures 00:20:00 - Ejection Sequence Explained 00:20:40 - Landing in Water Challenges 00:21:20 - Heat-Seeking Missiles Overview 00:22:05 - Maverick's Signature Move 00:22:50 - Dynamic Dogfight Analysis 00:23:21 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

[@APAMVs]

How did this get made, as soon as this video was uploaded!?

[@vaels5682]

​@@APAMVslooks like it's a plugin for chrome that parses a youtube video with AI and posts this. Neat tool

[@abdieljimenez6129]

@@APAMVs yea its AI

[@OttoByOgraffey]

*mach

[@robgreenwood7296]

Love this guy's analysis and commentary!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on, thanks!

[@thWlfpack]

The reason why TG: Maverick is more realistic, is because cruise had the the rest of the cast do some training, as well as use real fighters

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally

[@kineticdeath]

even though they cgi'd the felons they at least had real world aircraft, unlike the obviously made up "mig-28" which anyone, even a kid from the 80's knew didnt exist. "Soviet Air Power" taught me that way back in the day. Was one of my favorite books, when i was 10

[@Lawrence1203-f7s]

. Thank you Dave Berke for your service and professional narration.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on

[@onmysquare3536]

My former Captain JJ Cummings was the technical advisor for Top Gun: Maverick. I wish he was on this episode

[@The_Noticer_of_Things]

Would probably have to bring up the numerous times they opted for movie magic over his realistic suggestions and might not be a great look for any of them. But, yeah, it would have added an extra layer of intrigue no doubt.

[@kristophermann25]

Thank you good sir for your service!

[@GoodDealDave]

You bet!

[@MrScottb2y]

So cool you got CHIP. Dude knows ball.

[@GoodDealDave]

Boom

[@anakinyu7459]

couldn't stop grinning as he talks about each scene. his sense of humor with the respect for movie making makes it very enjoyable to watch! "the ejection at the beginning of the movie, would be the end of the movie" haha!!

[@GoodDealDave]

Glad that came across!

[@jimgregory6185]

Semper fi brother. I was a simple 0811 cannon cocker. You're awesome

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on. Semper Fi!

[@mavrickjubei7124]

Definitely appreciate his analysis for each scene depicted! I was one of those guys that he was talking about from the 80s that wanted to fly a fighter plane after watching Top Gun! Unfortunately I had a troubled high school life with no direction. Thanks to the Lord I got course correction and didn't end up in prison! I still feel the need for speed on my KX450! 🤙😎

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on.

[@TheLazyLabrador]

Thank god they pointed out the sun at 12:30, there’s no way I could’ve spotted that myself.

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha!

[@realboy24]

Mad respect to you

[@SwiftieXinfinity]

16:18 Richard Bong San Francisco though 😂 he’s SO lucky he didn’t get totally grounded forever (we are as well!) 😂

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally.

[@lopelek2126]

"Just go above the bridge", the radar waiting for the f18 above the bridge: YESSIR

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha! We will still be ok, there’s no radar tracking us just above the bridge either.

[@Yumiko-je1to]

@@GoodDealDaveno that’s literally the whole point of the movie.

[@GoodDealDave]

@@Yumiko-je1toit’s just a cool scene that’s not very realistic. I enjoyed it, but there’s no situation where we would fly under a bridge. And going over the bridge would not get us shot down…that’s why I rated it the way I did.

[@Yumiko-je1to]

@ except it would watch the movie. They’re going below because if they go out of the valley they will get shot at. And you can see that in the movie.

[@GoodDealDave]

⁠​⁠@@Yumiko-je1toI understand what you’re saying. I did this video to explain whether the movie was realistic. In this case, it wasn’t. We don’t fly under bridges. Again…a cool scene, great CGI. Just not realistic.

[@edwardsummey8843]

I like Mover and Gonky with their “old man BFM” comment

[@Educated2Extinction]

Excellent reaction. I liked the acknowledgement that it's a movie. Sadly, most of the expert military reactors I've seen spend more time talking about the greatness that is them than the movie.

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha! Indeed…

[@daeldo1]

I like to think the reason Cougar asked for permission to fire was because the stress got to him and he lost himself, his cool, the ROE then panicked. which is shown so well in the following scene. I like to think Cougar was king in training but never mentally prepped for that first real enemy. He lost it first real time out.

[@GoodDealDave]

I like it.

[@johnwanderin3872]

Maverick asked to fire. Cougar was having more trouble than he could handle throughout the whole encounter.

[@daeldo1]

@@johnwanderin3872 Cougar asked for permission to fire first, (Because the bogey was all over him) then the air wing commander reminded him of the ROE "Do not fire until fired upon

[@MrBerryK]

5:20 The other reason to roll inverted and pull is that the human body can tolerate positive gees much better than negative. Rolling inverted means you take positive gees to pull your vector back down.

[@iamthewalrus2211]

Just casually mentioning he flew "the kid." 😂

[@762x69]

Would you "intercept" him?

[@PilotsWaytotheAir]

Fine! I’ll watch both top guns for the 100th time

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha! It’s the only option.

[@johnzenger7880]

"The Deal" Good Dave Berke

[@GoodDealDave]

Good Deal Dave!

[@thegift9869]

this needs stupidly WAY more views

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally.

[@LissetteSanchez]

Dave gives the best leadership training. Awesome guy.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@JBTriple8]

Love Top Gun Maverick yeah loving hearing what real pilots have to say

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on.

[@RabidWombatz]

Excellent analysis. Highly enjoyable.

[@GoodDealDave]

Thanks!

[@skidamerica]

4:59 point I’ve always wondered why they flip upside since I saw the movie and now i know, thanks a lot

[@terdsie]

That and I imagine it's a lot easier to maneuver under a positive G load than a negative G load.

[@michaelwong9411]

@@terdsie Also, huge negative Gs might literally give you a stroke. The blood pressure in your brain would skyrocket.

[@SpatialDragon]

That is the problem with knowing about stuff depicted in any movies. It requires, "the suspension of disbelief." Good review sir. I still love the air brakes scene, I know I know, but I love it.

[@GoodDealDave]

I love it too!

[@supra1jzed]

@@GoodDealDave To be fair, the Raptor can certainly pull that on someone. Still won't be a fraction of a second that has been depicted but the damn thing can out do a Piper Cub in the "slow game" since the damn thing can hover vertically if it needs to...That's still absolutely awesome to see. If an enemy has the misfortune of even making it close enough to one to actually dogfight it, that's when their really bad day gets so much worse. LOL

[@jjock3239]

I just enjoyed the movie for what it was, entertainment. That allowed me to enjoy the movie and not have to judge whether everything was realistic. Your discussion of the ejection was interesting. I did my pilot training in the RCAF in 1965, and we did an ejection using a tower, with the original, T-33 ballistic ejection seat, using a 1/2 charge. We were all in excellent shape, and every one of us ended up at the top of the tower looking at our boots. It was impossible to maintain the proper ejection posture. The rocket powered seats were a quantum improvement. I personally knew 4 people who ejected (2 trainers) and witnessed an ejection from a CF-104. Two of the 5 people involved,were grounded for a time because of hairline fractures in the lower vertebrae. My favourite expression about watching the original Top Gun, was that I ripped the arms off my recliner, during the hard manoeuvring.

[@GoodDealDave]

Nice!

[@justinwilson2282]

Loved this guys assessment!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on

[@benhislop1458]

This guy flew two of my go-to planes in Ace Combat 7. I wish I could have been so lucky

[@weareselenators]

fellow AC7 enjoyer !

[@GoodDealDave]

Good times.

[@Thornbloom]

PSMs are not combat viable outside the game

[@SunGawdRa]

Dave's amazing at this. Like someone already commented, he knows the difference between what would really happen vs. the movies, but he appreciates what the movie does or tries to do. Also, you can tell he definitely knows his stuff, and he really likes the subject and the movie.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on...thank you.

[@SunGawdRa]

@@GoodDealDave YW! Hope to see you on more of these!

[@GoodDealDave]

@@SunGawdRa Me too

[@_baller]

Jet wash was pretty common for the F14 A engines, the engines were not well made and would stall easily, they also needed full afterburner to get off the carrier

[@redmed10]

I love the character Dead Meat in these films.

[@gourdbox]

0:14 Good Deal Dave Berke?

[@Archblood]

Yep, Echo.

[@emirachelnatalie3397]

top gun content in 2024 SLAYYY r u kidding my fav thing ever as a TGM stan from day 1

[@GoodDealDave]

Boom!

[@alloverdaplace2043]

I loved this movie had me hyped ventilating in the theaters 😂😂😂

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally

[@edwardsbarbara25]

I am just impressed with anyone who can fly and do everything they do in them. Truly and exceptional skill, imho

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@CJRoberts8812]

It's been discussed else where that the Darkstar had a cockpit ejection system, not just a seat. The only other real problems I had were missing the targets with laser guided bombs, and Maverick just giving up when the last enemy fighter had him and the F14's ejection seat didn't work. I can't help but to think that Maverick would be yanking and banking until he was actually hit by a missile.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

"The only other real problems I had were missing the targets with laser guided bombs" Just because something SHOULD work and be super accurate, doesn't mean that it does. "The only other real problems" REALLY? Do you have ANY idea just how outmatched an F-14 is by a Su-57? Growling sidewinder channel, he tried it out in DCS 1 against 1, which BTW is biased against the Su-57, and after 10-15 losses he gets his only "win" by RAMMING the Su-57. " we got him in a rolling scissor here and 8:02 things are going pretty well 8:03 never mind 8:05 he just went straight to the six o'clock " " what is this whoa 3:06 whoa did he just slot in on my six like 3:08 that oh [ __ ] 3:12 god 3:35 oh my god you see the way the nose just 3:37 goes that thing does almost doesn't move 3:39 like an aircraft 3:41 it like almost floats it's like you're 3:43 fighting a piece of paper 3:45 a very strange thing to try to dog fight " Those comments from the video are pretty much representative.

[@igorbednarski8048]

​@@DIREWOLFx75 in reality noone actually knows how good the Su-57 is. Russians aren't exactly transparent about the capabilities of their gear and are also notorious for exaggerating their specs, so we have no idea (and neither do the DCS creators) how well Su-57 specs translate from paper to reality.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@igorbednarski8048 "in reality noone actually knows how good the Su-57 is." Of course not. But we have LOTS of indications. The way Russia ramped up its production more than ANY other aircraft, despite it being the 2nd most expensive after the Tu-160 and far more complex to rapidly increase production of. And yet they doubled its production 2 years in a row after starting up a massproduction line in 2022. The official and semiofficial comments about it is also FAR beyond what is normal to hear about a new aircraft. IIRC the official statement was "greatly exceeded expectations". While i think the most amusing semiofficial comment ive found was "flies like a bumblebee". Referring to the old misunderstanding about how bumblebees aren't supposed to be able to fly, breaking the laws of physics, and yet they do. With the meaning that it flies so amazingly that it should be impossible. We know that compared to known power efficiency of its electronics, it has something like 4 times as much power available as any other fighter or nonspecialist EW aircraft. And it has a greater power envelope than even many specialist EW aircraft. We know it has 3 X-band and 2 K-band radars overlapping across the nose, and probably at least another 4 of unknown hz, hidden in the wings the same as the K ones, and all of them linked together like a single multi-antenna array, which is how the Gripen's and the MIG-31s anti-stealth abilities works. We have reasonably reliable indications that its RAM is multifrequency and notably better than what all known western types. We KNOW that the RAM for the canopy is blatantly superior to western equivalent. Its aerodynamics, according to every attempt at modelling, it's ridiculously good. "and are also notorious for exaggerating their specs" HAHAHAHAHAHA... Yeah, how about lolnope? Pretending that export models somehow are identical to full capability models just so you can claim that Russia exaggerates, that is just dishonest. But then, that's exactly what i expect from the west nowadays. Projection to the extreme considering how much US MIC companies exaggerate how AMAZING WUNDERWAFFEN they are. The west STILL pretends that Patriot can shoot down hypersonics, despite how the former UA airforce spokesman Yuri Ignat clearly and without slightest ambiguity stated that ZERO hypersonics and supersonics Russian missiles had EVER been shot down. He's the guy that was fired for being too honest... And yet every time there's a missile strike, the west crows and laughs about how many Russian missiles are shot down, despite every target they were aimed at, getting hit. HIMARS was supposed to be impossible to shoot down. Because the west have nothing that can do it. Russia routine shoots down over 95% of them. Storm shadow and ATACMS are supposed to be impossible to shoot down. Again, because the west cannot do it. And Russia shoots down over 85% of them. UAs attempt to use USA style SEAD? Ended in miserable failure because Russian airdefences shot down every HARM along with the UA aircraft that conducted the attacks. Russian Kornet ATGM has a battlefield pk of about 2 shots per destroyed WESTERN tank. And 3 shots per destroyed SOVIET tank. And yet, the advantage of the big and heavy western tanks is SUPPOSED to be survivability. Meanwhile, Javelin missiles pk rate worse than 50 shots per destroyed tank. FIFTY!!! And literally thousands of Stinger missiles have been used without even a single confirmed kill. While a few hundred old Soviet Strela MANPADS have a small number of confirmed kills. Etc etc etc etc... You can claim whatever you want, the battlefield clearly says, the west exaggerates its military abilities to an absurd amount. Russia does not.

[@bigdevil73]

@@DIREWOLFx75 typical russian troll. soviets have everything better than anyone else... 😂😂 keep dreaming in your propaganda lol

[@jtg1912]

@@DIREWOLFx75you accuse bias while demonstrating enormous bias yourself , try a tempered, reasoned argument and more ppl will engage and take you srsly , bad faith crowing is just tedious regardless of which side is being shilled

[@ericterashima6329]

BRAVO!!! LtCol Berke’s analyses are very articulate and clearly well-grounded in professional expertise. Well done to the staff at Business Insider for putting this together. It is extremely well done. Thank you.

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@erasmus_locke]

Navy guys watching Top Gun - 9/10 Gold Perfect Impeccable! Air Force guys watching Top Gun - Zero zero one zero crap double crap

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha!

[@dallasyap3064]

Maybe Air Force needs to make its own Top Gun film. I guess they're just extremely terrible at publicity, PR etc, which is why we don't see a cool fighter aviation theme film from the Air Force' all while the Navy has done 2.

[@B-A-L]

Everyone watching Iron Eagle 1, 2, 3, 4.... wheres the minus sign?

[@billrmoore]

Good Deal Dave Berke ... is ... flipping ... awesome!!! This guy is phenomenal! So knowledgeable. Such a good speaker. Such a great guy! One of my fav dudes! Great interview! 🤓👊🔥

[@GoodDealDave]

Thanks man...this was fun to do

[@williamdecker3989]

Thanks for your service Mr. Burke! I'm an avid RC ducted fan pilot, I own several Navy jets: a A-6, F9F and an F-18. A4 is my next plane. F9F and F-18 are Angels livery, both numbered in the slot position, because it's the hardest job in the Angels. Bravo Zulu!!

[@GoodDealDave]

Very cool.

[@northsidejeff9551]

Top Gun Maverick was Absolutely Amazing 👍

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally!

[@shredead]

I could totally do this if they ever need a hot take on the realism of how cubicles and Microsoft Excel are depicted in movies. Would be just as cool as this

[@GoodDealDave]

Ha!

[@remconoordermeer7015]

Awesome analysis and all-round video!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@matttrafton2725]

INSIDER. How about a veteran evaluating the opening scene of Uncommon Valor?

[@TangoCharlie-mz8lh]

On one hand there's no part of me that wouldn't want to be an F18 pilot On the other hand, oooooh boy, carrier landings 😂

[@GoodDealDave]

Valid!

[@erospittacolo3130]

17:32 that's an F-4 Phantom II, not a Skyhawk.

[@challenger2031]

From the other end of the pond, watching this film being reviewed by a guy who knows what he does and does it well reminds me just how awesome this film was. Bloody loved it!!!

[@GoodDealDave]

Right on!

[@Whispers-Of-A-Lost-Soul]

Messi.....is that you??💀

[@jeromemitchell3559]

The Kvochur's Bell Maneuver is awesome. Like in Ace Combat 7 Game💯

[@Ch3fdadda]

I love Top Gun ‘86 for the sheer fact that we got Hot Shots out of it! 😂😂❤❤❤❤❤

[@GoodDealDave]

Totally!

[@B-A-L]

Hot Shots... a great American movie featuring a Great British plane!

[@DigitalIP]

Legal Eagle did a video about this as well but they had a problem with the Hard Deck portion of the movie for some reason, like a 5000ft Hard Deck was dumb and not done or something. This guy explained it so much better

[@GoodDealDave]

Boom!