Fighting Cartels That Are Fueling the Fentanyl Crisis (w/Jack Riley) | CA #21

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Jack Riley is the retired Deputy Administrator of the DEA, the administration’s No. 2 position. He led the manhunt team that captured notorious Mexican cartel leader Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán and is the author of the book Drug Warrior: Inside the Hunt for El Chapo and the Rise of America's Opioid Crisis. He is an expert on Mexican drug cartels and the roots of the modern fentanyl crisis.
On this episode of Chang Agents, Andy and Jack discuss what can be done to stop the flow of drugs into the country.
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[@natejackson4791]

That's an outstanding guest, I would love to hear more of his story. Thank you for the presentation.

[@davecollins6113]

Another guy I'd like to see in a 2-3hr podcast, some good stuff there.

[@luigipascucci6760]

Lol you had me at the 8a.m. to 10 a.m. work schedule. Bless there Hea❤rts I almost spat out my coffee .

[@internet_internet]

This was GREAT! I love this guy.

[@allendaigle1471]

Another great and informative episode.

[@liontribegc]

We love what you guys are doing! Cheers from Texas! 🤘😺🤘 Michael

[@cadetheimpaler]

Outstanding interview. Really!

[@Horsed_Beef]

This guy is a fucking hero. Honestly, a true role model. I wish he were still involved in this work instead of retired.

[@grumpygardner3059]

That was very eye opening. I'm completely baffled as to any reasons why the Legislator's do not consider these issues a National Crisis.

[@billbradleymusic]

You're getting closer to the truth.

[@mattmarzula]

They're paid not to.

[@SinIsWack101]

Money talks

[@craigfinno551]

They work with the cartels why do you think there letting in so many illegals our government is letting the cartels set up shop here so they can wreak havoc then theyll take away our guns and make us accept more patriot acts on steroids to spy on us and set up a dictatorship for national security

[@kbartlett1888]

That was class, great listening

[@pamelafrye4667]

Great interview & Great man 🙏 ❤...God bless him 🙏 ❤ & his family, friends & community 🙏 ❤...

[@MrCashewkitty]

I did a lot of shady shit in and out of every border town from TX to CA back in the early 2000s Juarez was the only one that I was ever worried in. It was rough back then, can't imagine now!

[@MichaelWheelock]

Great discussion

[@internet_internet]

Wait, Ironclad also does a podcast with the guys from the Roadster Shop? My god, two of my my favorite worlds colliding in one media space, former SEALs talking with amazing people about incredibly important topics, and some of the best custom car builders to ever do it. Ironclad, if y’all have any presence in the north Austin area, let’s be friends. 😁

[@bbarker5766]

Fentanyl and heroine are all over the place around here. They do a lot to try and lessen the amount but it only works for a little while and the dealers just keep moving around. I had video's of drug deals going to this one apartment when I lived in HUD housing and there was a police substation no more than 80' away and they still didn't do anything.

[@ravisahota8977]

Good interview 🇨🇦

[@mikewinter7697]

I agree with Andy. That was a great ending. I really hope we have more people like him trying to protect our country!!

[@travisbond635]

Great job as always. God bless you all and God bless America.

[@thisisironclad]

Thanks for listening

[@billbradleymusic]

Which job exactly?

[@travisbond635]

@billbradleymusic Getting the word out on subjects that we dont hear about from the mainstream media. These guys and gals that make this show are true Americans that care about this country of ours. God bless.

[@SmidgeofSnow]

I am so glad I found this channel from Mike Forces channel. Gentleman thank you for you integrity, honor and your service….. former Air-force mom…. Our Country has been at War w these drug dealers etc for decades…. We need to treat it as such. Thx, looking for hope.

[@user-eo3dr3jk4v]

Keep up the good fight...

[@georgecoull1883]

This show is always so damn good I can't believe it doesn't have millions of likes

[@Geezerelli]

People can’t take the truth 😂

[@roytrujillo4944]

An incredible man with an awesome story hopefully the right solution is found to this epidemic soon

[@Chertoff88]

Didn't our training and resources the last time just create Los Zetas?

[@jonathanramos8414]

Those guys were school of the Americas graduates

[@jonathanramos8414]

All the original gafes soldiers of the zetas are now dead

[@asnark7115]

And the Contra death squads, and the Colombian cartels, and Saddam Hussein, and Osama Bin Laden, and the Afghan opium lords, and ISIS, and Al-Nusra, and...

[@rebeccapelegrin7898]

Thank you gentlemen.

[@texascrimestories]

Lol, m3xican herion isn't piwder its that nasty tar shit

[@Janzer_]

if we handled things like they do with HVTs in the military, bringing force, tech, and manpower to bear against drug traffickers, we could actually make an impact.

[@billbradleymusic]

That's no shit. War could happen because of it but you're dead on.

[@ELBigBossMK23]

Hopefully, cartels have drones, some weapons training and guerilla warfare training, south American special ops as well as US vets amongst their ranks, home territory, mountainous terrain, American law enforcement and politicians on payroll and probably intelligence agents too.

[@user-vj4vl7le4y]

When I was still in the army in 2008, that was not a realistic expectation, mainly because there were so many of the cartels people that had already infiltrated United States armed service

[@justincook8473]

I believe the host is referring to the book Dreamland, which is about the rx opioid crisis and subsequent heroin crisis.

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

It's never about drugs.. just The trophy's 😊

[@bluestarlily1354]

My daughter Kimmie died of Fentanyl poisoning May 2022. She was one month and 9 days short of Her 25th birthday. Kimmie is Forever 24.

[@asnark7115]

RIP. I've heard some stories from people I know about their children or children's friends dying of Fentanyl OD when they thought they were playing with something they (the story tellers) used to do as experiments or once-in-awhile fun; such as X or acid that turned out to laced. I doubt it has ever been this dangerous to be a kid.

[@user-vj4vl7le4y]

​@@asnark7115you can call people storytellers as much as you want. You don't have to believe anything for it to be true

[@slynn5138]

Fentanyl is such a terrible drug and has done so much damage to our society and especially to the younger generation. I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@FingerIndexer]

another great interview, Fentanyl is an absolute scourge.At first glance I thought this he was sitting down to chat with Jerry Sandusky

[@Bids4Lids]

The book “Drug warrior” was really good I highly recommend it!

[@user-eo3dr3jk4v]

Yes!! The extradition to the US for these crimes would be HUGE, both for getting them off the streets and as a deterant. If they're involved in traffic across the border, lock them up here. More money needed here in the US, for more prisons, or incentive for privatization of prisons , here in the US. The ability to keep them for lengthy prison sentences, without the chance of parole. Back to tough on crime. Well said and thank you Sirs for an educating podcast....😀

[@veritas6466]

You are advocating a drug enforcement policy that is unequivocally an abject failure! Case in point, Escobar is more than off the street and in jail… He’s dead. Is the Medellin cartel gone or reorganized under younger, more ruthless leadership? Are the peasants of Peru and Bolivia still growing cocoa? Another more recent example is El Chapo. He’s off the street, extradited to the US, locked up in a SuperMax prison and now the Sinaloa Cartel is stronger than ever. Using the same disastrous drug policy approach repeatedly begets the same results.

[@SembuaHumpdediddle]

Within a certain span of time. Within a certain spell of time. Within a certain length of time. Periods repeat. A stanalone bit of time is not a period.

[@JohnDoe69986]

Why such short episodes?

[@Alarcon664]

I would like to hear the story of his whole career. Seems very interesting

[@scottholmes2276]

Man it’s crazy we can’t find a way to stop this madness. At this point I think it’s to late… jmo

[@CarlosCastro-du7ou]

Great Job! Very informative. But nobody talks about the other side of the problem. How about an episode on how the millions of Americans are feeding the fentanyl problem

[@lexstacks6944]

Well its flooded our streets and communities. I live in AZ a border state, and its everywhere! 1ea or even less. If there wasn't as much fentanyl supply here, then people wouldn't be as addicted, and therefore wouldn't be AS addicted and would have a much better chance at recovery and getting clean if they could only get say 5-10 pills/blues a day instead of 50+ a day to smoke. Some people i know smoke 70-100 a day bcuz there so cheap now. Thats a result of the supply going way way up these past couple of years..

[@RogerSmith-lc9lo]

Like to see a podcast on Mayo sambada

[@johnferguson4985]

Guys name at the beginning is George Marquadt.

[@carrow2250]

Dammit, Sean Penn

[@ripblackmamba08]

Love this guy could listen to his stories for days I wish I could sit down with him forc6 months and just ask questions

[@007DGO]

Ask him about las cruces and how close that bounty was gonna get collected

[@poetryfrompoverty]

9:33 Organized crime knows how to survive regime change 17:00 Sean helps by sticking his pen in at the wrong time 25:50 Business opportunity opens up 28:50 Highly lethal drug 31:50 Designating as terrorist organizations 36:06 Risk of doing this job 40:50 Importance of public pressure 43:53 Comparing with 30 years ago... 45:40 Working as a cohesive unit

[@P51]

this sounds like a demand-side problem-- otherwise you're just playing whack-a-mole

[@Adrienne-lf9li]

Congress don't have a lack of understanding they are turning their heads. If this problem reached their lives and communities they would react appropriately.

[@asnark7115]

Not really. It already has and they still take the laundered cash.

[@DerrickLytlephoto]

Jack calls cartels guys idiots yet everything he’s done to combat them failed. That’s funny.

[@billbradleymusic]

❤pot gets rotten... Sounds like bullshit if its already dried out. Key to conversation; they dry it before shipping.

[@patricknoveski6409]

Wow! Here is a Man with answers. But Congress ain't listening. Story of our Country isn't it?😢

[@sentfromdaniel]

AND STILL the families of Officer Brian Terry (Complete Badass) and the 9 US citizen Mormons adults and mostly toddlers have no real justice. Those were our Mormons!

[@saulayala4970]

Sir. Excellent topic. But like the LAPD Captain, this guy is a suit. Please get some of the DEA, US Marshall, and US military on the ground in Mexico when Chapo was arrested. They will tell you the real frontline story

[@johnhunt9674]

They'll tell you it's an absolute waste of resources to keep fighting a drug war that will NEVER be won.

[@brunodanner7777]

Interesting: the latest reports are that Charo was not the 'big boss'. That is being proven true by facts on the ground.

[@sethdunlap9868]

The DEA is the only gov't alphabet organization I see the importance of. I've seen too many strangers, friends, and family members lose themselves and their lives to drugs. Knowing that this administration is deliberately keeping the border wide open to help keep the flow going is sickening!

[@popogejo7245]

Look at history! This is a problem that no "government" in all history has ever solved. Bring one perp to justice, and 10,000 rise from the mud to replace him\her. Drugs, (heroin\cocaine\meth\ scrooms) have controlled Europe since the Roman empire. The cartels control these guys bosses!!! The top contributor to Nancy Polosi's campaign was Chappo himself. The cartels put Hobbs in the governor's chair in Arizona. They own and control most of the small and medium towns along the Texas border, as well as several large ones. If you think Chappo is in a "jail" cell in a super max in Colorado, you obviously don't know how this thing works. Maybe someone who looks a lot like Chappo is setting in a cell in Colorado, but the chances it's Chappo are slim to none. This is a moral issue NOT a legal one, that will be with us until the demand dries up. The same goes for human trafficking. Human trafficking with be with us until, the middle aged pervs from the burbs are cleaned up or incarcerated. We have to stop this ourselves. Setting in front of the TV watching another fixed football game isn't gonna do it.

[@Janzer_]

anyone that says, "decriminalize all drugs", is living in an idealistic mindframe devoid of life experience.

[@mikesmith7497]

@@Janzer_ Well that's defiantly not true.

[@billbradleymusic]

Hilarious! Supply and demand. Supply doesn't create drug addicts. Drug addicts need supply of which there are people happy to oblige.

[@billbradleymusic]

The administration doesn't matter. They're all in on trade with other countries no matter the items.

[@ericthomas9915]

🗣

[@ryancarmody2168]

All due respect but I don’t believe that arrest did anything to the cartels in Mexico. I would argue it might’ve made things worst.

[@pinkoslayer]

Dupont. Not surprising really.

[@gregkelso595]

He might be onto something, Extradition straight to GITMO.

[@tinydane69]

Andy..why are the interviewees in black in white in these episodes? Just wondering.

[@FeloniousSavage]

When covid first hit i would allegedly smuggle illegal immigrants across the border to make some extra cash... The cartel coyotes called me "El Solo Lobo" which means "The lone wolf 🐺"

[@wm1979wm]

Change the laws regarding pain meds prescribed by US medical doctors. Look back to when this started and how the fda and congress goes from one extreme to the other regarding this. Let the pendulum swing back to the common sense middle ground (thankfully it has started to very slowly)

[@garyt-of6yb]

BIDEN HAS LET THEM IN OUR COUNTRY!

[@JP-bx1qm]

Hit 🏡 😎

[@lionnamedsmokey3845]

Idk but IM A FENTANYL ADDICT I snort 1-2 grams a day. It sucks. Ruined my whole life.

[@DontFollowMe1988]

Chapo was the fall guy. El Mayo is and always will be the King.

[@Elmagnifico057]

His own people killed Camarena !!!! Because he found out they were sending guns and ammo to Nicaragua or Guatemala for the guerrilla !!

[@bwanahaguziki307]

You worked on bringing Colombia to their knees ? How'd that work out for you? Lolol...BTW you guys murdered Kiki Camerena..hands pretty dirty

[@jonathanramos8414]

The only groups in colombia that run cocaine trafficking Is the paramilitaries and the guerrilla insurgents. Their major cartels are largely gone. Yes they still have cartels but not all that powerful like the Mexican cartels now

[@Californiansurfer]

Just say no to fentanyl. Unites states Gun industry best customer Cartels.

[@jamieleeburke8206]

I love your podcasts but the black and white ain't working

[@deemushroomguy]

What if we created "by choice" concentration camps? Opiate addicted troublemakers get funneled there to get off opiates. If they can pass a random drug test 3 times over the course of 3 weeks, they can leave... Otherwise, the timer resets and they're stuck there for another 3 weeks, minimum. It is by choice that they're stuck there without privileges, as it's their choice to continue to use.

[@regilee9003]

3 years

[@j4v-cyberpunk-music]

But he is looking at it from a fighting the seller perspective and that is what the actual root cause making also money on drugs abuses. The higher up the food change in the busines, the saver the position if the bottum gets exchanged easily. That's why Drive In staff earns less than Manhatten layers. The actual problem is a market law: Demand meets Offer. Who would not understand in the U.S. what Fentanyl is? To fight this crisis, like all other crisis, we have to understand who asks for this substance. The U.S. military had big issues with mental health of the soldiers and invested in resiliance programs. There is a TED talk on KZbin of the very woman that lead that research. Unfortunatelly, a lot of media outlets started to mix up resiliance with resistance. Drug use is another form of mental health and needs the same research to understand how we as a society can stop humans from creating demand, how we can change society to create humans creating demand and finaly to understand how to stop humans from feeding that demand. #MIB

[@dsmfury]

Labeling them as terrorists would also bring about boots on the ground and we could go after the lithium!! I mean umm freedom and drugs yes against the fentanyl and put an end to the epidemic. Yes thats right😂

[@slynn5138]

If we labeled the cartels as terrorist organizations the citizens of Mexico 🇲🇽 would have a valid reason to flee their country and request amnesty in the United States 🇺🇸

[@veritas6466]

I’m sorry. We’re been losing the war drugs since prohibition. It’s time for a different approach!

[@hawks4evr147]

arriba el chapo guzman

[@jjjnnn6734]

Seems like Trump has been the only president in recent era to take the border very seriously.

[@JK-vc7ie]

If Americans didn’t take the drugs then there wouldn’t be any drug dealers. It’s our fault. Take responsibility for your actions.

[@Janzer_]

that's faulty logic, often spoken by non-americans. a drug is addicting, let's understand that as the basis here. something that is addicting, and the more addicting it is, will cause people to seek it out. people did not seek out addicting drugs, addicting drugs were introduced by some and a whole market was built around this. south american countries that are just now putting in jail all their cartel gangs such as honduras and el salvador, allowed their country to become corrupt by drug trafficking to the united states. those countries created more of the problem by flooding the US with drugs. we would have less of a problem if there weren't as many drugs going around. period. so back at you with that same comment, "take responsibility for your actions", is what I say to those that are importing drugs and have allowed their countries to exist around the corruption of drug trafficking.

[@JK-vc7ie]

@@Janzer_ I am an American. And the logic is crystal clear. I am not addicted to drugs because I don’t take drugs. Humans must take ownership of their lives and actions. The gangs and cartels only have money because Americans are voluntarily giving them money.

[@JK-vc7ie]

@@Janzer_ “a drug is addicting”. No shit. That’s why you don’t take drugs.

[@JK-vc7ie]

@@Janzer_ You can only control your actions. If you don’t take drugs you can’t be addicted. It don’t care if the cartel is offering them for free. I choose not to take them. This could not be more simple.

[@johnhunt9674]

What a terrible guest to have on.

[@user-te3pv8lx5v]

How long do we let this continue? As a Philly resident I’d like know know.. my city is falling apart 😢someone please stop it

[@slynn5138]

Kensington is a nice area!

[@Rikqster776]

Montana LEO needs to pull over voluminous speeding out of state cars on 93 would be a great start… @agKnudsen