Fighting for LGBT rights in Uganda - BBC World Service, Witness History

In 2009 Ugandan MPs tried to introduce new laws against homosexuality that would include life imprisonment and even the death penalty. Homophobia was rife in the media with tabloid papers printing the names and addresses of gay men and lesbians.
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Many activists suffered intimidation and assault. The law was eventually overturned by the Constitutional Court in 2014 but homosexuality is still illegal in Uganda.
Victor Mukasa shares his story of fighting for LGBT rights in Uganda, first as a lesbian woman and then as a trans man.
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[@nasaphillz8403]

This is what BBC loves. Seeing us confused

[@fauzianalwoga1002]

Yes

[@tworealms]

What an absolutely stupid ignorant comment. What's confusing about someone telling you what happened to them. You want it to be confusing cos that allows you to stay ignorant and prejudiced. I can't stand BBC either but that doesn't mean her truths not valid or not worthy of attention.

[@harouneahmed9053]

The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.

[@stingcobra8538]

*CONFUSION OF DA HIGHEST ORDA!*

[@shrimpfry880]

Dey want to lick da poo poo

[@ZuoCruz]

L - G - B - T - I Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, ABOBO NABA GUA GUA, and Intersexuals. Where's the H?

[@B13e]

Has anyone in this thread performed the natural obligations as of late?

[@j0yt0yyy]

@@shrimpfry880 bro what

[@Mad7747]

Pasta 😄

[@tworealms]

It's really tragic that innocent people have to suffer because of the religious insanity of others. That in itself is insanity

[@stopcensoring.7959]

indeed, this is why Uganda banned the groomer alphabet cult 😂

[@arwinmagpantay3332]

Pasta interview brought me here!😅 "So who is gae?" LMAO

[@PlayerTorpedo156]

Pastor Ssempa at 1:44

[@gilbertescalante6736]

"Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness... --Isaiah 5:20

[@tavioussoul1153]

Leviticus 20:13 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[@clem.3894]

@@tavioussoul1153 That verse is referring to pedophilia. "Malakoi" and "arsenokoitai" is in reference to heterosexual men frequently kept a boy in their house to use for their own sexual gratification. These boys were sex slaves. The men who owned these slaves were the arsenokoitai. They took a pedophilic role in the sexual encounter. There were also other boys in the ancient Roman Empire who were male prostitutes and frequently offered their services at Roman temple cults. These boys, along with the sex slaves, were the “malakoi.” They were the victims of such an interaction. Additionally, Leviticus is not meant for laypeople but the priests of Solomon's temple. Your point is invalid regardless

[@alexyancy6018]

@@tavioussoul1153 yaaaaaah shut your mouth fam. Let people love who they love. God doesnt care about Sexuality

[@Marksmen17]

@@tavioussoul1153 We are not obligated to follow the laws of the old testament for they have long been expired.

[@bugsbunny5977]

​@@Marksmen17 So let's follow the law of Desire😢

[@rugbystories3344]

That's is not a Christian church you went to my sister no men of God will strip people

[@KingofgraceSARA]

The enemy likes to burn the candle at both ends!

[@kyobetimothy9331]

How did u produce them

[@iRemakeMusicalTV]

😂😂😂

[@robinwangai3303]

"They laid hands in particular on my genital area because they said that was the center of it all." The amount of hypocrisy is palpable: Whatever happened to "rejecting perversion?", because THAT is exactly what it is.

[@sateo62]

Yeah the hypocrisy of the church is obvious especially with the selectiveness of "sexual sin" Why is God's love and grace descriminantly demonstrated

[@harouneahmed9053]

The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.

[@justiinahirvonen4902]

thank you for coming in

[@qwertynaughty3256]

Where is H

[@mugumecalebsonofphaneroo6999]

Poverty is a spirit.. people are nowadays paid to stupid

[@85naqwi]

Where is pasta?

[@PlayerTorpedo156]

1:44

[@KingofgraceSARA]

Where is Ms. PePe?

[@Lov4Lamar247]

Then move to USA or Europe. If you are not happy with African Laws.

[@veritasvanburen_]

Where’s the H?

[@firefly361]

Is that Pepe?

[@suk4693]

No it’s my dad

[@imthewinner3467]

Pepe's partner

[@misstruth9027]

We all need to pray.

[@bradleysitsandsipstea33]

It’s rightly deplored

[@joemuwi3548]

Where did you get children? You cannot talk about your children please.

[@leonodonoghueburke4276]

Why not?

[@joemuwi3548]

@@leonodonoghueburke4276 We cannot argue about this! The truth speaks for itself.

[@BBCWorldService]

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[@enidzoleyika1553]

The problem with this group they do promote it, I was with this group and they were like 6 girls on Kampala road visiting the same bar everyday which was close to my workplace,they would only drink because of the funds, not until when someone told me avoid that group,they are recruiters into homosexuality, so that's how I survived and they would fight when fail to share funds equally. And they will never tell you who introduced who, they just claim that they were born that way , Surprisingly by the time they meet each other, no one is found a virgin, just know this thing is just promoted

[@nakayizahanifa9804]

The truest statement about this thing

[@Lilo-di9nu]

The homophobia in this comment section is alarming.

[@user-mw5uz7wv6h]

cry more

[@elijahsmall5873]

Ikr?

[@izzyizzy8074]

I’m genuinely surprised at it. Disheartening.

[@vitobucatini51]

??? Next youll be saying “I’m sick of pedophobes” in 2037

[@KingofgraceSARA]

It's an abomination. We won't pretend it's normalcy.

[@RealRoach-2x]

3 years later, it is death or 10 years or life in prison

[@Marksmen17]

Its baffles me how hypocritical this law is. I thought the son of God taught to love thy neighbors, not wipe them out the face of the continent. this is why I believe in the separation of church and state.

[@RealRoach-2x]

@@Marksmen17 I don't see much loving thy neighbor in the lbgt community. I stand by the word of god because I know that the fundamentals to a successful life are your faith in god, your education and your self control. What uganda knows is that lust is mans worst enemy and so is pride.

[@Marksmen17]

@@RealRoach-2x Could you elaborate on the first sentence? And regardless being LGBTQ shouldnt sentence them to death. Wasn’t this in Leviticus 20:13? If so, then why must we still follow the laws of the Old Testament which has long been expired?

[@RealRoach-2x]

@@Marksmen17The new testament says the exact same thing.

[@RealRoach-2x]

@@Marksmen17 and also lust is a curse

[@dallas5609]

Confusion at the highest order.

[@amosmwesigye3045]

Uganda is a religious country and we don't promote or uphold evil acts of any sort. As Ugandans we reject homosexuality.

[@StefanStuart1]

But killing is ok. Hypocrites

[@linusmlgtips2123]

Being gay is not evil

[@brunomuhoozi7533]

@@linusmlgtips2123 God purnished the doers, bible says[the white man's book].

[@bradleysitsandsipstea33]

@@linusmlgtips2123 way to disrespect a whole religion.

[@wesleyandries3434]

Yeah we bun dem out In the carribean as well........FULL REJECTION TO ALL RAINBOW FRUIT BOY DEH..from the Caribbean to Africa we bun out the nastiness.........DEMONS

[@iminsideyourwalls9432]

Based pastah

[@Motuochez]

All the love and support to my Ugandan sisters, brothers and siblings. You're not alone!!

[@uniformpublisher]

Thank you

[@lyndajoseph6612]

You are kind kind of people who are pest and promoting this shit in everywhere

[@luwalirapatrick6074]

Go to hell u devil

[@johnwest478]

No thanks for them

[@harouneahmed9053]

The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.

[@divine.6092]

Insane

[@MrSofakinggreat]

Shall i call you mista??

[@alastortheradiodemon9616]

"Why are you gae?" Uganda Interviewer

[@ufologist1874]

That interview cracked me up! Lol

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

Where's the H?

[@thematic3893]

@@SUPERSMASHTV177O13 ghey?

[@theaj2564]

well well well this video is gonna put her in trouble now

[@edbaird7687]

You have demonstrated strong, defiance to your culture and laws. Yet at the same time showing and demonstrating you are unable to control your sexuality. It controls you. There is a reason that loving people discourage Such a life of weakness and selfishness

[@kyobetimothy9331]

BBC stop affecting our culture

[@scythegenram6961]

Should i call you mistah?

[@DoreenNitusiima]

Hahahha Pasta

[@jayaduana6483]

Ouuuu, u remember clearly ur kid's memory, AMAZING!

[@Stephen.Williams]

I'm so sorry for these lgbtq Ugandans. I think they may have to leave the country and seek asylum in other more accepting countries.

[@GO_142]

Oh no

[@eimaidelulu]

Is it still banned?

[@faithakampurira3146]

Yup

[@shadracksteve3712]

War against homosexuality

[@majesticflap]

@@faithakampurira3146 good

[@somaligirl]

@@shadracksteve3712 Rightfully so It's our duty to God and our country to fight evil

[@circulation21]

#Confusion.

[@abdallahyunus7538]

If water is water...should we drink from the toilet?

[@simonkata5272]

That's your shit

[@nuurumanyireki840]

Children call you daddy!Real sarcasm

[@anthonyngocihkisilu2973]

Choreographed lies to appear like you were born like that..

[@KaiserX850]

Lesbian ? Homosexual ? How can I describe you 🤔

[@ratuepivolavola6393]

Don't be self pity.. how can we accept you gang ..but you don't accept yourself ... it's a sin evil to accept lgbt..I support Uganda law which is anti law

[@stevenartiss8537]

GOD Bless Uganda.

[@majesticflap]

Indeed, god bless every country, just not the lbgt propaganda

[@PRINCESSALICEM]

That’s rude tf

[@benforde3579]

@@PRINCESSALICEM 🇺🇬

[@harouneahmed9053]

The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.

[@thematic3893]

Pastor Ssempa!!!!!! 😂

[@akudanmuzik6401]

Where is the pasta?? Shame on pasta

[@shantanudahiya6170]

What a brave person. Great to see that pride, self-acceptance and confidence.

[@youtube-user25]

It's not your business just shut up mind your own business

[@shantanudahiya6170]

@@youtube-user25 You shut up. Injustice anywhere is my business

[@youtube-user25]

@@shantanudahiya6170 everyone couldn't have justice unless everyone is right, hmm...

[@d_acl]

@@shantanudahiya6170 except in our country

[@d_acl]

Just shut the fuck up

[@stylesygrd2699]

Life would be easier if everyone mind their business. if 2 grown *$$ men or women f**k why wud u care unless ur jealous or u wanna be part of it?

[@MrDMC11889]

People mind their own business when they shouldn't. People don't mind their own business when they should. Consenting adults just living life get harassed. Murderers rapists and pedophiles offend out in the open and people say "I ain't no snitch." Honestly , where are our priorities?

[@twanellis9466]

Daddy us to Miami on business they don't want over there trying to make people believe in what they believe in that country doesn't believe in it so what's the problem

[@nppiogaming3127]

No

[@rohanghosh1499]

Sad people hate a woman who likes dressing as a man and is attracted to same sex. I hope one day Everything will be fine.

[@bagayaqueen]

Evil spirit 🥺

[@greek_sahab]

All this hatred in the name of some imaginary "god of love"...

[@younesmetal6762]

You dont have to be homeless anymore pick up your bags and go to Syria, you will find the right place for you between the crowds 🥺

[@winnieelaine8592]

😂😂😂

[@rabiealkurba2520]

You're not funny kiddo

[@denekabudget]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️💯

[@enochpowel3030]

The BBC should keep out of other countries cultures and respect other countries laws.

[@usein_mata]

They call you dad because you're acting like dad but when they will grow up they'll learn the truth that you're actually mum.

[@Marksmen17]

It all depends on how they will be raised... I don't think it would be likely for them use such a low blow.

[@harouneahmed9053]

The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.

[@hopeemmarx]

Such an inspiration

[@p12remakeisreal]

Should I call you mista

[@kabengekenneth1147]

God never make a mistake people this is evil

[@allanbenoyo3279]

They were right

[@apikowinnie7702]

I humble my self today to pray for you my dear sister....

[@spongeintheshoe]

*brother

[@shrimpfry880]

🍌🍌🌽🥕🥒

[@Somcognito]

Why ah you gae

[@humanbng7123]

He's she

[@Yumenga]

I recognise those things.

[@Mutaahi12]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

Pasta

[@firelord1202]

I've spotted pasta sempa

[@anwary_sultan]

Unadanganya Mpuuzi wewe..

[@abrahama7921]

This is gross.who is paying her to say this

[@qwertynaughty3256]

1:46 pasta 🍝 pasta

[@4125greenbrierroad]

do you see the drag queens at the end in the blond wigs...outrageous...

[@jamilahmulungiprincessofhe3017]

Repent Repent Romans 1:21-32 for God and my country Uganda 🇺🇬🙏

[@paulkayonga3554]

we are Africans but many people are forgetting that

[@not__me]

What do mean exactly

[@thematic3893]

@@not__me if you don’t know just keep quiet.

[@not__me]

@@thematic3893 I like how some africans think lol. I'm african and I support the lgbt community. Why will u ask? Because our culture ( at least in my country ) used to not see homosexuality and queerness as a sin before the whites came and loaded us with their beliefs. You know the ones you claim to be African's and that only africans can understand lol.

[@thematic3893]

@@not__me then you have unAfrican beliefs. Again, keep quiet and go and let your western masters fill your cranium with nonsense.

[@not__me]

@@thematic3893 See exactly what I was saying😅😅. I have a different point of view doesn't make it unafrican or something. It is people like you who are the true problem. I didn't tell you to agree to what they do or what they believe. I'm just saying to respect them no matter their beliefs or yours and not try to force yours on them to point where you kill them ( because that's what we do as african ). And for me there isn't nothing less african than killing your fellow Africans just for different views and opinions for God sake let them live THEIR LIVES the way they want.

[@christophercodekas6075]

Rightfully so. Need that here in the States to

[@redeye.badland9786]

Ugchada

[@josephinethatcher713]

Want to join LGBT in uganda, where do I find u

[@jamilahmulungiprincessofhe3017]

Everything will come to end but God will remain the same it's not late repent jesus is coming back soon 😭😭

[@johnwest478]

Her real name is "SHE"

[@tusiimeflowers8221]

May God heal u poor gal

[@akampuriraagrey846]

I wonder why theives,or killers don't claim their rights...I guess the richest thieves haven't done good promotion

[@sateo62]

I'm sure you have people in your family and friends as well who are similar to this person. They are hiding themselves from you because they are afraid. Would you equate these people to murderers?

[@carolynemusawo3449]

​@@sateo62SDo u know y ugandans are outrageous about all these issues? do u know d aftermath of all this LGBT issues in Uganda? kids in schools are being recruited, young boys are wearing diapers because of leaking, imagine the pain from a parent sending your innocent child 2 school n they come back disfigured, where do u get strength 2 support this group when they are doing more harm than good? This group is bullying young people who refuse 2 join them in schools n yet the LGBT r the minority, imagine if they are given rights, what will happen?

[@rickflose]

Western cultural colonialism

[@mothfrl]

U could argue that LGBTQ acceptance is modern day western colonialism but what's even more interesting is that their reasoning for being anti lgbtq is rooted in beliefs that they got from past white Christian western colonialism. In fact homosexuality/feminine men in old African cultures was used as a justification for them to be enslaved/colonized.

[@sateo62]

Go read about the "Mudoko Dako" of Uganda before colonialism and Kabaka Mwanga II of Uganda before the import European Catholicism.

[@psalm-istheansweramadi]

Ebifiire

[@nuwamanyatrust9612]

Wat is it male or female thing am confused

[@brildidge9523]

I expect a person like you would be confused about a good many things.

[@musonimary8044]

So sorry about what you went through, i detect some lies in her conversation, but where i totally drift away from this madness is where someone begins calling themselves what they arent. You are born either man or woman and if you possess both genitals one isnt active meaning there is a problem. Whatever it is with your choices dont force them on others to accept as if its food or medicine that if i dont access i will die. i never seek permision from anyone when i am going to sleep with my wife, i wonder why yours should be made public and special. FOR GOD AND MY COUNTRY.

[@sateo62]

Yeah that's what Scott Lively was saying in Uganda "For God & My Country" Kabaka Mwanga II of Uganda was saying the same thing when the Brits came with Catholicism, but we know how that ended. I recently learned about Archbishop Janani Luwum of Uganda if the early 1970s a martyr that understood the love of God. Persecuting the vulnerable and your own people is not the Gospel.

[@ssebuufuabdukariim9787]

Doomed

[@thesupuu6415]

Why can't Europe and America take in all gays

[@brildidge9523]

" First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me. "

[@mikepryor7467]

good luck now nerd

[@christellas_kitchen]

Wait this is a girl😂 okay this is really jokes now 😂

[@donbyakatonda4015]

Ur mad

[@DanielJohnNicholson]

All power to the Ugandan LGBTQ+ community ✊🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@emmanuelkuteesa4821]

Your just lieing no space for you in Uganda

[@INDIANdickheads]

Let there values be strong. There is one nation with ethics.

[@aab__nty]

@@emmanuelkuteesa4821 HAHAHAHHA UR SO MAD

[@lindalackey4609]

This is sick

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

Where's the H?

[@rikardandersson5582]

So football shorts are for men only? Also, if she's trying to prove a point that she's "masculine" then why is she wearing that bracelet that would be considered "gay" if a male wore it?

[@nasaphillz8403]

Just confusing people

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

I hate these laws, but the alphabet soup pushers in the US are also awful. Homosexuals deserve tolerance. Nothing more, nothing less. Not unquestioned celebration like we have the US, nor intolerance like in Africa.

[@cashprinter5000]

I agree but for their own safety...gays should not express or display their orientation in public....

[@spongeintheshoe]

Tolerance is what they want in America, too.

[@spongeintheshoe]

@@cashprinter5000 They shouldn’t have to hide it for the sake of safety.

[@benforde3579]

🇨🇦🇵🇸

[@tworealms]

She's beautiful. Inside and out x

[@LexWeaver-hp4sx]

You mean "he"

[@johnwest478]

Thanks God that banded them in Uganda

[@gursewak_b4ar]

Me watching after ban on LGBTQ 😂😂😂

[@p0lsagyip0ls]

Lol same and I'm kinda happy on it

[@AgathaVandeCamp]

​@@p0lsagyip0lsthats sad

[@majesticflap]

enough talking about lgbt's rights its time to talk lgbt's wrongs

[@carolynemusawo3449]

BBC should also delve into searching for Homosexuality victims in Uganda and interview them, young people are rotting and these so called activists can't even help in treating them, it's the parents who suffer with their kids 😢

[@lusondaaxam5935]

Gayism is not accepted in our country Uganda and that’s good😊

[@lukevilla1046]

She has children?

[@thesorrow96]

respect Uganda nice law 👍

[@sserembaabdulsalaam7125]

May the almighty Allah guide you all (me inclusive) to the right path, and never to go astray until our last breath 🤲

[@sserembaabdulsalaam7125]

Abuse is not a solution @ V1CTOR1A_51 Try something else

[@iamgonnagocryagain1401]

Something else?

[@iamgonnagocryagain1401]

What do you mean exactly..to try and change them or..

[@harouneahmed9053]

The sodomy is a crime The marriage between men only and between women only means the extinction of humanity. Homosexuality is not love, it is futility, selfishness, and the destruction of the system of society and humanity. تشريع اللواط والسحاق جريمة الإنسانية Homosexuality is a crime against humanity. L'homosexaulité est un crime contre l'humanité.