JULIE WHITEHEAD - The Sex-Trafficked Mother Next Door Pt. 1 || Consider Before Consuming Podcast

[@deleted_why]

People who have decent lives just don’t imagine what some of us go through. Thank you for sharing.

[@WideAwakeHuman]

I had a decent life growing up - but then decided to be a cop and after years of that seeing what evil there is in the world I really saw how naive the rest of society is to the horrors that humans do to each other.

[@rickkonesnii]

I'm so sorry you were let down David by people who should have protected you. Know you deserved better and will be rewarded. Jesus loves you so much

[@handsomeman-pm9vy]

Franky we don't give a damn.

[@shawndewitt3587]

I had a decent life but I make a point to listen and learn from others experiences. I had a niece and nephew SAd and its had lifelong impact. There is no place in society for these predators and victims NEED to be heard

[@Walkingkarma4you]

Facts

[@cliffordnewell2445]

She was married to the cruelest, most sadistic human being I've ever heard of. How was he even possible? I don't see how she survived such a life.

[@yeetnama9094]

and she decides to have not one, two, but THREE children with a known monster

[@cliffordnewell2445]

Good point. I hope none of them turn out to be monsters.@@yeetnama9094

[@tomthumb5445]

She chose him, when is any women going to held accountable for their decisions?

[@Soulwildxlovex]

@@tomthumb5445 He was abusive, controlling, manipulative, and she was terrified to leave. terrified for her life. you probably already know that though and just have some insecurity issues that made you need to say ignorant things online in order to get off or something. and that's just sad tom

[@Thetruthwillsetyoufree90]

@@tomthumb5445she was also mentally traumatized and YOUNG and naive while being abused by two overbearing controlling monsters… and you expect HER to have been able to make a smart, sound, rational decision? Please do explain how that makes any sense…

[@wazer85]

❤ thank you for being brave enough to share your story.

[@Hannah_The_Elon_Jew]

He Stole Amy Magazines

[@oliviaanne2468]

Her story in the beginning, when he kicked her while they were in bed, happened to me as well. He kicked me with all his might, I pretended it didn’t hurt because it would have gotten worse. I left the next morning and never went back. Best decision of my life.

[@carolejackson8357]

❤

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks for sharing your story. We are so sorry for the hurt you experienced and hope that you've been able to find the healing you need. Keep fighting for love! -FTND

[@pennyusa8514]

I'm proud of you I had a monster step Dad who beat my Mom and I finally stood up to him. I was always on my bike in my teen years just so I didn't have to be home I loved my Mom but hated Jim!! At dinner all the food had to be by him my Mom served him first you should have seen the look's he gave me because I loved mixing corn with my mashed potatoes and eat them with a spoon lol when I drove he made me record the miles at the gas station the price for gas everything. The day my Mom found out he was cheating on her was the best day we packed his shit and he was gone the one day I stood up to him he chased me upstairs I shut and locked my door he threw his fist threw the door and my Mom said if you lay a finger on me I will have Steve kill you my real Dad who cheated on my Mom and cheated on his second wife to the end of his life that's another story in itself. So reading your story and all these stories people don't understand until they lived it I have stories that would leave your mouth hanging well Jim died last year and he was judged by my Father in Heaven and I know God took care of it 😉

[@oldpotatojuice]

I related to it too. For me, he didn't kick me. He violently pushed me out of the bed and then wouldnt let me get back up. Kept knocking me down every time I tried to stand. Pushed me into furniture. Everything he could except hit me, so he could say he didn't hit me. That's how it goes.

[@Justmeeeee813]

Thank God.

[@WhiteeeChocolate]

The lesson is that women, GIRLS need to collectively start to speak up. More awareness 🙏🏻

[@alexts94]

No, the lesson is that we men should do better

[@WideAwakeHuman]

The lesson is that there are millions of BOYS that are trafficked and abused just like girls so acting like it’s one or the other is naive and ridiculous. And nearly every time you have a man carrying out abuse there are WOMEN that know about it and either keep quiet or even help get more victims. Humans are evil, stop acting like one gender is made up of victims when reality proves that’s just not true.

[@tomthumb5445]

More awareness? LOL That is all there is.

[@WhiteeeChocolate]

@@tomthumb5445 what are you trying to say TOM?

[@Soulwildxlovex]

@@alexts94 yeah mostly that. women have been speaking up about this for a long ass time in reality. men need to start speaking up about it more

[@JessiJames-wd7op]

I’ve read comments blaming Julie for “choosing” this man to marry. What they don’t realize is that many girls are taught that they are, “ruined” if they allow a boy/man to have sex with them prior to marriage. When she said, “I just wanted to be a good girl.” It ripped my heart out, as I too came from a very conservative home where having sexual relationships prior to marriage made one unworthy to be married.! “You are now ruined and no one else will ever want you!!” This young woman expressed exactly that! She had to marry him because she had been giving herself to him. Please be kind… if you don’t understand this mindset be thankful and don’t judge those who have lived it… she also talked about how those in their “ community “ would look down on him if she told they had participated in premarital sex. Again, all of this points to her naivety and being brought up in a very male dominated religious sect where girls are property.

[@carolejackson8357]

Yes. One correction. She allowed him to take her out of obligation.

[@carolejackson8357]

A sign of our toxic culture?

[@Sept2cfm1953]

Some Mormon culture promotes this behavior. There are some countries with cultures that are much worse. Most cultures detest this.

[@zipinha]

Well, psychopats can be amazing when you meet them and then slowly transform and you can't believe it.

[@deleted_why]

Thanks to the interviewer for praising her at the end.

[@JoshC-End-Abortion-Fear-God]

I agree

[@justmeashley7923]

Her sweet little voice. It’s so innocent and endearing. Precious.

[@christopherbristow2629]

Voices like hers is a red flag that they were abused as a child. When you're abused as a child, your voice sometimes gets stuck at that age.

[@caliblue2]

It’s called arrested development. Liking women who sound childlike could be a sign you were groomed as well.

[@peacemaker1502]

@@christopherbristow2629sounds like Britney Spears

[@tinam761]

@@christopherbristow2629it was a red flag to me that it’s not part of normal development… a woman of her age would typically have a different sounding voice.

[@kateruterbories2692]

Yes, she's stuck in perpetual child hood, it's so sad.

[@fellowviewer1095]

As soon as I heard her, I saw that little girl being treated so awfully. I wish you healing and peace. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@FightTheNewDrug]

💛💛

[@WhiteeeChocolate]

🙏🏻Julie really has incredible strength. INCREDIBLE

[@FightTheNewDrug]

💛💛

[@jenniferthompson6280]

a lot of times a baby voice is due to the trauma from the father from a young age, it's like they get stuck in that toddler stage voice wise

[@sherigraham3873]

So very sad! I wouldn't be surprised. So much scaring.

[@zipinha]

Oh that is so sad

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

Child like ?

[@otmossampacado1550]

​@@LaurieValdez-zk3dyit is very common in females, because whenever grown women that was traumatized in young age are in anxious or stressful situation their immediately reversed back to when they first lost their voice, which was when they were traumatised

[@whiskeygallows1764]

Sometimes it’s an act. Kinda like how moms use this voice when talking to the children.

[@tecumseha]

Julie, it breaks my heart to hear your story. And if it does for me, I know it pains our Father in Heaven. He sees, knows, & loves you. I sincerely hope that the Savior is part of your recovery. God bless you & your children!

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Tecumseha, It does not seem that there was any Christian spirituality involved in her life.

[@Maruzzela-l1u]

​@@Charity-vm4btwasn't her family LDS?

[@da---536]

this poor girl didn't stand a chance

[@pattycornell7983]

​. agree 100 %

[@pattycornell7983]

​. Agree 100%

[@lucys1288]

Thank you for sharing your storey Julie. You and so strong and such a ray of sunshine. Big love and hugs ❤

[@leslieanne1671]

The sadness in her eyes just makes me want to hug her so tight. I hope she’s found happiness today.

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks so much for your comment and support 💛 -FTND

[@cindyjohnston237]

Her father needs to be charged as well. So so sad and so many wounds never dealt with results in abuse and coping addictions. Bless her and her family!!

[@caliblue2]

The whole idea that she was appalled at her husbands pedophilac misogynistic behavior afraid about her “non- virgin” status with him at 16 is so bizarre considering she was forced to participate in that behavior since birth with her own pedoohile rapist father. It goes to show you the personality splitting and compartmentalization that goes on for anyone and especially children being sexual abused. The patterns continue and make zero sense but it’s a survival mechanism that exacerbates the continuation of the cycle of abuse.

[@yeetnama9094]

Honestly I think we as a society need to hold pedophiles and abusers much more accountable with VERY harsh punishments, but ALSO: women need to be held to a higher standard about whom they choose to procreate with. The CHILDREN in this story are basically an afterthought as we all fall over ourselves feeling pity for the grown woman who DID make active choices to expose vulnerable children to an abusive monster. At some point children need to be considered here in this whole culture of abusers/victims/domestic violence conversations . If I were her child, it would be extremely difficult to forgive her.

[@tereseday4060]

​@@yeetnama9094Abusers often get women pregnant to make it harder for them to leave.

[@da---536]

​@@Charity-vm4btvictims do need to take responsible for themselves but a lot get so depressed and don't care if they live or die..they need someone who appear out of know where to help these women..God will send the right person like he did me. so pls ask God every day for help he wont let u down

[@LilyBecca]

I'm going to guess that she grew up Morman. There are so many examples of things that are sick & wrong within this community. Chad Daybell, Lori vallow, Rube Franke, Jody Hildebrand....all the FLDS members that abuse women & children. This church needs to step up and start telling their congregation that these things are not ok.

[@amyw7200]

Agree. Listening to her about her community, I'm sure it's mormon.

[@maryjacob2414]

Also all the sex child abuse and the hiding of it by the Catholic Church.

[@sherigraham3873]

Crime happens with people of every religion. Even though church involvement teaches the ten commandments, but people choose to follow or not. It's called free agency.

[@ChrisSuttles-n8q]

I'm glad someone finally said it! I agree 100% just my opinion here, but the whole Mormon church needs to be looked at very closely! I'm astounded that our president is a practicing Mormon!

[@NS-ht6gg]

Thank you so much for sharing your story.

[@tigusvaton8406]

Sorry you went through that

[@k8lynmae]

I am pretty sure that her mother knew what her husband was doing

[@WideAwakeHuman]

They ALWAYS know… and if they don’t know everything it’s because they intentionally avoid hearing or seeing it all because then they’ll have to do something about it or feel guilty.

[@B0K1T0]

(Disclaimer: This is in no way meant as justification of evil things people had their own choice in. But the better we understand something, the more chance we have to defeat it.) The sad reality is they often went through similar horrors in their life and developed this behavior as a coping mechanism for their suffering. At the same time they'd been allowed very few opportunity to develop themselves in a healthy way. To make things worse, some victims cope with this trauma by maximizing their control over others, developing into an unstoppable "hunger" for it, lacking the ability or strength to find others ways to get out of the trap they keep digging deeper instead. Some people manage to break this vicious circle, but many times it's passed from one generation to the other.

[@Charity-vm4bt]

​​@@B0K1T0Yes, victims need to find ways to mature and take responsibility, such as using psychology and possibly some type of spirituality. This is possible now, more so than ever before because there are resources. It is a matter of "victims" finding ways to take responsibility for themselves because they do not realize they and their children were dehumanized.

[@sherigraham3873]

​@Charity-vm4bt Exactly! Dehumanized! You hit the nail on the head.

[@jehouse61]

Pretty sure the dad is the guilty party here.

[@pearlmdluli5520]

This is so sad, I'm so sorry you experienced that 😢

[@brendapatten6676]

How does this man still have access to these children!?

[@esmeralda0660]

That was my first thought!

[@lindagilbertson7488]

Thanks for being so brave! You are poised and authentic. You deserve so much goodness and love in your life.

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Keep fighting for love! 💛

[@Tiare789]

Nothing but a dangerous mind game and terrible stress. It’s sad how common these situations are. I had an abusive boyfriend 2010 to 2015.

[@caseymckenzie8065]

35:04 he admits he’s attracted to babies but she stays with him horrific and endangering

[@Alicia-vq8jg]

Actual babies or like 16 year olds

[@saramorisani]

Thank you!

[@6141794]

It’s astounding any judge would give him any access to those kids

[@ilb735]

Wtf🙈omg ..these poor kids 😪🤮👹💩...🙀

[@Anxxxxx]

EXACTLY.

[@MrSnippety]

You are very courageous

[@waldiolsztyn]

Julie, You are very Strong Woman! Take care!

[@beetee6690]

Why isn't he in prison 😮why are the children going to be anywhere near him ?The system keeps the trauma going 😡

[@bonnie3232]

Richard is a monster. I wish she would get court appointed psych evaluations ordered of herself and Richard. No doubt he is a sociopath. He should not have visitation of those children. God bless her. I pray she heals and realizes she was never "stupid". She was a victim of abuse. Horrible abuse.

[@RebekahLeaPhelps]

I would sure like to know more about if anything ever came about her dad and how she did after the divorce. She mentioned the kids seeing him, but I can’t imagine him having any kind of custody and I certainly wouldn’t want my daughter around my father. Prayers for her continuehealing

[@entertainmentpowerfuchs5744]

Thank you Movement for helping Others. In Times from Onlyfans and Netflix Shows with erotic Elements with underage Actors we need People like you to speaking Sense and Logic. #RealLove

[@crystaldingman773]

Its not just you with the victim stamp. People who are raped and/ or sexually assaulted are way more likely to be assaulted sexually and physically a second time by a different individual. There are studies on this with various theories as to why. I think the biggest reason is because there are way more creeps out there than anyone realizes but perhaps victims tend to be more forgiving and more empathetic to others so when they cross certain boundaries they are forgiven and seen as more than just their bad behaviour. You would think it would be the opposite and that prior victims would have their guard up and be on alert at all times but they seem to be more tolerant than others.

[@James4791zx]

It's like these monsters can sniff out, sense damaged people😩😩

[@PaulyShore898]

My mom dated a real weirdo like this and the weirdest thing is he works in HR so he should know sexual harassment is illegal but apparently he lives in a fantasy world where most women aren't just revolted by him.

[@klbfarwell]

Julie, as I listen to your story and see your pure, angelic soul, my heart aches for what you've gone through. You are beautiful inside and out. My instinct is to grab you up and hug you and tell you that you are loved and deserving of happiness. I am sending you all of my love! I was married to a narcissist, but I did not endure anything as bad as what you did. God bless you! ❤❤❤

[@FightTheNewDrug]

💛💛

[@SarahPerine]

Very brave to share her story. It demonstrates well how hard it is to get out of the abuse cycle. She is incredibly strong 💚

[@FightTheNewDrug]

She demonstrated that there is always hope and you are never alone! Thanks for sharing 💛

[@antoniojaquez5032]

Thank you Julie and fight the new drug for this. #Awareness

[@r.c.3614]

When I hear these stories, I stop and think, "what has happened in my life that I was indoctrinated to see as normal but other people would know is not something I should go through?"

[@stephaniepiazzese2602]

Umm what??

[@elizaestabrook3656]

How the hell did he get any right to see those kids!!!??

[@lydiayoung7012]

Exactly, and I doubt if he even cares about them.sounds like a bad environment for them

[@Anxxxxx]

Is there a way to know the name of this Eric guy, the Peruvian trafficker? I'm Peruvian and I would like to know who this man is, so we can be safe and be careful here in our country 😞🙏 I'm so sorry that Julie had to go through this. It's unbelievable how much the victims have to suffer, not only the abuse from their perpetrators, but also the lack of interest from other people who could've done something to help...

[@elizaestabrook3656]

It's always a chore, unfortunately if you're in a relationship with a man, at some point he always becomes a chore, just another child to take care of. People who experience something better are probably being cheated on and are blissfully unaware

[@Alexiax13]

I hate that Julie was dealt these cards from day 1. Her father is a horrible man & Richard as well. I feel like Julie would turn heads and light up a room with her smile & radiant personality. She seems so sweet & I wish she could’ve had a better start in life. I’m glad she’s able to talk about these things & bring awareness.

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks so much for listening and for showing your support! Keep fighting for love! 💛 -FTND

[@tonyarychard2326]

I hart hurts for this beautiful women. I also had a very abusive marriage that ended very badly. I feel for her she went through so much more trauma then I suffered. God bless you, my experience made me stronger I hope it has made her stronger as well.

[@bigospig]

Praying for this sister and thankful for this channel.

[@sophielily2015]

So sorry for what you’ve been through😢💔….reminds me of how R. Kelly treated all of the young girls he imprisoned in his house👿.

[@kimprice9172]

Heartbreaking Story. I can't phathom how a father and/or husband could be so evil. She is so soft spoken, sweet and lovely. Praying her & her children detach from every single person in the toxic families. These psycopaths should be exposed for the whole world to see.

[@RebeccaEvans-l1b]

Bless you dear, I'm so sorry this happened.

[@MegaSunshineyday]

I feel bad that she calls herself stupid. She was trusting. People in church make a lot of promises. You feel you will be protected if you just behave yourself. She was exploited by the people who were responsible for protecting and guiding her.

[@debbieblair3329]

You are so brave! Thank you for sharing your story!

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks so much for listening to her story. You are making a difference in this fight for love! -FTND

[@Maruzzela-l1u]

Her parents safelly win the worst parents ever, award!! Her dad raped her but her mom never realised her daughter suffers. Then she didnt realise the bf isnt right .Then the brother comes home and he is so supressed and programmed that he too didnt realise and or had no say in kicking out the nasty bf, or at least have a talk with his sister. of course he didnt realise what his dad did either. How plausible is that in a normal family that your brother doesnt know sonething is wrong

[@dawnkelly804]

So based on the fact that her brother came home from a mission, I am assuming that the LDS Church is involved here- not at all surprised about any of the sexual perversion & sexual abuse

[@sherigraham3873]

Your wrong. The church is very strict on sexual promiscuity and especially pedophilia. Your getting confused with the flds.

[@karinland8533]

She is so soft spoken because of the abuse. It’s a coping mechanism to try to not provoke a new episode of abuse. It is horrific to her her talk like that.

[@Hansgame]

is that stock holm syndrom what she felt for her husband richard? also was she manipulated into having low self esteem and to seek affirmation by him? thats so sick and evil.

[@edoboleyn]

I don’t think he had to manipulate her into having low self-esteem and seeking affirmation from a man. Her father did that for him when she was a toddler. Unless one has survived that kind of early abuse, it’s difficult to understand just how profound the damage is.

[@vpt238]

important her voice sounds so young

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Virginia, arrested development.

[@stephaniepiazzese2602]

Important?? How so

[@sherigraham3873]

​@@stephaniepiazzese2602because it's important. Hello 👋

[@elizaestabrook3656]

Hopefully her dad is in jail?

[@ashleyhenderson9524]

I couldnt imagine hurting my kids like that. Its hard to swat their butts when they need it. This is so awful. The lord is close to the broken hearted

[@meeeeeeee82]

imagine the women who didn’t leave

[@helgashubat8238]

OMG, this story is painful!

[@rodgano2780]

Courageous beautiful woman. Im sorry she had to deal with these demons. They will get whats coming to them at some point.

[@Graciarocks]

I don’t know how this happens in America. This sounds like third world country circumstances.

[@lavy9815]

Honey this shit is infact more rampant in America. But it infact does happen in every corner of the world. Thats how perverse men are.

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Hey there, thanks for your comment. You are absolutely not alone in this. Many people don't realize that sex trafficking can and does happen just about everywhere, including in America. This is why we fight to stop the demand for sexual exploitation! Thanks for being a Fighter! -FTND

[@tiiaamii]

Very brave indeed ❤

[@streaming5332]

That's why people have too many kids to give the mother company.

[@corgisrule21]

“Someone’s touching me the wrong way, but it’s my dad….” I nearly cried just with that sentence. So heartbreaking 😞

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks so much for sharing. Personal stories like these can be difficult to listen to, but thank you for being here and witnessing her experience. You're making a difference! -FTND

[@symphonyinkart]

Psycho sexuality of different experiences needs to be discussed more. Me as a daddy issues survivor I call it… I’ve been and still on a journey on understanding this. I’m a luckier one. Many live in cycles not understanding.

[@LilyBecca]

Where is part 2?

[@fingersm]

Insane story

[@handsomeman-pm9vy]

Frankly we don't give a damn.

[@crawfordtowing4496]

Damn I feel so bad for her I’m glad she made it out

[@FightTheNewDrug]

There is always hope!

[@apikmin]

❤

[@blairthemakeupaddict]

The only thing that wipes away our past, hurt, and shame, is turning to Jesus Christ. The Bible says that He took our place on the cross and that if we turn and repent to Jesus and believe in Him, we will be saved.

[@pabloescobarschanclas]

just stop…..

[@AaronHitson]

True. Thank you for speaking up.

[@rickkonesnii]

Yes the only way to eternal life is Jesus 🙏

[@rickkonesnii]

​@ediblelipscrubs9466sometimes someone needs to be pushy hell is real anyone that is old enough to know better will go there if they don't know Jesus

[@fairuzmaileen5691]

​​@rickkonesnii but we are all there, what changes is the perspective, nevertheless we're all in "hell"

[@gems5638]

Selfish to have children to have a ‘friend’ knowing she was bringing them into a toxic lifestyle that wasn’t right. Sorry love but use your brain!!!

[@carolejackson8357]

I'd like to have seen those videos used against her abuser. And what about her father who ruined her? What about her daughter? What all happened when she couldn't protect her?

[@moosehead543]

What an absolute F-ing Monster. Both 'men (NOT)'... God I wish this shite NEVER HAPPENED EVER.. So sorry to hear your story. Heart breaking...😢

[@iDelta77]

So devastating that the father did this to the child.

[@jmasscott173]

I remember hearing years ago that women with baby voices have had trauma in their childhood.....

[@sailing1stwatch]

Interesting as a Mormon family that all this happened behind closed doors.

[@Kinann]

Her 4yo little girl voice is a dead giveaway that screams abuse victim. Dr. Drew always said the vocals freeze at the time of the first abuse. Sure enough here in this case. SO GLAD she put his ass in jail.

[@lorrainedevlin6409]

This is y children get repeatedly abused, others who could have helped don't, but oh my does God let them know what they did?Onlty they can examine their countious, or the lack of one, surely that type of guilt will eventually eat them up.

[@vanessalittle-sellers7981]

Is Richard in prison??

[@cubinn149]

Ya if it dont feel right it probably isn't best to listen to that

[@MikeMaez]

It's usually father uncle brother.

[@candiwa10]

And she was Morman ? What a life

[@Dejavu33106]

I send you a big hugh ..

[@ChrisSuttles-n8q]

Sweet girl, I just want to hug her!

[@FightTheNewDrug]

Thanks for watching and for showing your support! -FTND

[@trava4156]

“My community” girl what community?!

[@Darling_Nicci]

Mormon church.

[@heide-raquelfuss5580]

We are allways the victim. People do not grasp that and think WE are toxic and so on. You are 100% correct. Those people see it and are picking you, so all your life you get in shite situations. There was even a study about it.

[@cubinn149]

What kind of idiot would make his wife fill out drawn up permits some weird people out there

[@caseymckenzie8065]

Just skip to the 2nd part

[@AMGbrakedancer]

Her father damaged her and normalized then behavior. Then let her abuser boyfriend move in and stay? Then she stayed with that person? Wow. Set your standard high and leave. Move out and leave. Don’t ever feel stuck. Move out and don’t tell anyone. Don’t secretly and have a plan. No abuse is acceptable. Period.

[@Sept2cfm1953]

She didn't realize it was abuse. They also hid the abuse. These people need a place to go. There are shelters for abused women you can go to. They will help you rebuild your life.

[@pdxkari]

If that is all she has known, she does not know how to get out. Everyone has a different response to trauma. They say it takes an average of 7 times before a domestic violence victim finally leaves for good.

[@deerheart87]

He sounds insane

[@gregsmithers4493]

❤❤❤

[@theresekirkpatrick3337]

God bless you and your family. 😢such an evil person not even human. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@BillySharpe-rl1rq]

All way known God love you he will take of you....

[@jdmmg4904]

❤😢

[@FightTheNewDrug]

💛💛

[@ikr2377]

She sounds like a kid

[@luanaduncan5484]

I cant understand this so I stopped listening !!!! And yes, I've been abused as well!

[@donnahalperin2840]

Wow she was so brainwashed by the father!!

[@kathrynmilligan8839]

Shadow

[@tashyam7736]

This is why we must continue to work on progress and cannot go backwards please vote blue everybody