File formats in Blender EP30

[@midphase]

Cookie! Also...stop worrying about length, good quality information takes time to explain.

[@ihorkarpiuk4102]

Thanks! This is one of the best channel for mid-to-advanced 3d designers! I've been looking for something like this for long, it's a bless Blender Guru has shouted u out

[@davebulow2]

Are we in 2022? I had to double check ;-) 8:02 Joking aside, Bob, thank you so much for this highly useful information and all your videos, from which I've learned an incredible amount! Thank you for sharing your industry insights. Very grateful.

[@BlenderBob]

Oh yeah! 2021!!!! Doh!

[@BiffGibson]

Thanks Bob, this is the kind of vid that only the pros who have been around the block a time or two can make.., cookie cookie

[@retroeshop1681]

Truly I learn so much with your videos, there are not only so much fun, they have toooons of info, I always share your videos, I still can believe you haven't got as many views or subscribers as the average "model a box" tutorial channel, no hate to no one, but youtube is flooded with those, and there is just one Blender Bob hehe

[@dido3500]

Nice backround, I actually read those comics( Tintin series ) it is really awesome!

[@kmahant]

I made it through till the end of the video :). This video has expanded my knowledge of all the different file formats, to a whole new level. Thank you for your time and efforts on making this video . I know it was literally " Mind Blowing ".

[@anasfx3970]

A jar of cookies my dear friend 😁🍪. Thanks a lot for the awesome work, and always looking forward for your new informative videos 🍪.

[@carlosedubarreto]

Cookie... (I watched it in 3 days LOL) You are funny and very good quality content, its a pleasure to watch.

[@mmckellar6417]

You get a cookie!. I work in packaging visualization. Most of our models begin from an Esko plugin for Illustrator that exports to Collada. I was hoping you'd cover that format to learn more about it but no worries. Very informative video. Thanks.

[@TIMUN_ID]

Thank for this video. This is new for me. You are awesome!!

[@TheReachtube]

Cookie! Amazing infos & tips on FBX and Alembic wow thank you!

[@thefreshest2379]

I've been waiting for years for someone to do this vid

[@CristianMoga]

cookie!!! Great channel love the amount and quality of information you provide.

[@jadeherman9292]

This is really helpful, Bob. Thank you so much!

[@KaiBuskirk]

made it to the end.... danke! yes mind blown... u rock... Y up cheers, Kai

[@MikeDBoing]

Cookies!!! Seriously, the y up dilemma is a big issue. But not as big as the FBX scale issues.(among others). As a side note, if you use the Blender FBX export addon from Epic..you know, the Unreal engine guys (may have heard of 'em) it works like magic..in Unreal.

[@BlenderBob]

Yeah, well, you go from Z up to Z up... :-)

[@antoinebagattini]

Give this man a cookie !

[@EugeneMalikov]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@studio_paranormal]

Just amazing - whole time until the end - thank you!

[@BlenderBob]

So where’s my cookie?!?

[@studio_paranormal]

I wanted to buy some for you in Canadian Tire - but bad luck... they are selling different stuff.

[@BlenderBob]

Ah! Somebody got it!!!! Canadian Tire!

[@studio_paranormal]

Finally I've got some - "cookie", "cookie" - the second one is for examplantion of Gltf format - great stuff can not wait for the new video :)

[@studio_paranormal]

@@BlenderBob Even I am czech in the middle of Europe - Cadanian tire gave me a useful products when I was living in Quebec doing concep art. You can make a next joke about Canada dry - I swear I will laugh - another thing I miss :)

[@SpaceshipYamato]

(Cookie) It might behave been long but you had a number of good tips that were worth sticking around for. I am not in Blender that much (yet)... but go between Max, C4D, and Houdini enough to know how much of a pain that can be with each format having its own quirks and limitations.

[@davidroomes9087]

Cookie! Although I don't do a lot of porting stuff between Blender and other packages, it was still very informative and interesting. If I ever do have to port stuff around, I'll be wary of FBX, will try to use Alembic and will build a little extra time into the schedule to deal with the headaches. Thank you for the info! Love these videos, by the way. Please keep the coming!

[@BlenderBob]

The problem with alembic is that it doesn't support bones

[@787KurtF]

Yep, Y up - right there with you buddy.

[@KamilHaddadM]

Yes! @Blenderbob, Thank you for existing

[@trevorsmale]

Another amazing tutorial "Cookie"

[@ChrisMasna]

GLTF/GLB is what we use for Augmented Reality applications (or USDZ if working on a mac)

[@christianvolkner2028]

USD is so much more powerful than any of the other formats. It is orders of magnitudes faster than alembic, can import lights and you can reference other usd files with a usd file. Basically you can have an usd file called layout only to position objects or you can work over top of someone elses work without destroying it and then theres hydra and materialx. Really interesting stuff, if all packages implement it already then we might have something similar to an universal stand, if not then we might have one of 16 Standards :-D

[@BlenderBob]

The ADM hydra addon will be a game changer.

[@un0RRS]

Lol @ 11:45 "hmm... 'apply transform' I wonder what that does - JESUS CHRIST!!!" 😂😂😂

[@laurentyarp514]

Very informative. Thank you

[@justincase7773]

awesome! so I will export my "Cookie" from Blender to Maya in Alembic format.

[@TemaShahov]

Hi Bob, It would be great if you could update it to take into account the new features of the software and also the rapid development of the USD format. Thanks

[@BlenderBob]

YT doesn’t allow modifying clips. But I think I made at least in clip about USD

[@TemaShahov]

@@BlenderBob Yeah, I mean it would be nice if you made a new video about how things are with file formats today. BetterFBX still doesn't work perfectly. But maybe you have some new tips. Including USD too. The Maya and Blender connection is especially interesting. Since other software is more user-friendly, but Maya, in my opinion, does everything to make it inconvenient for the industry to switch to Blender

[@RealPapershaper]

11:48 Oh my god this looks horrific, did you sacrifice those people to Cthuluh?

[@GaryParris]

"cookie" well done. i understand your frustration lol

[@gregtracy9322]

Cookie... I had noticed differences in the axis orientation with some software, and with things like Cartesian-based 3D printing, but never made the connection that this was a reason that some models turned out wonky when exporting/importing back and forth. Makes a lot more sense why I've run into some issues now.

[@kokoze]

If I were a blender core developer I would put my focus on USD instead of FBX too... I would also finish the .vdb implementation (no points and level set support yet)

[@MarkStead]

Come to Australia and I'll buy you a cookie. Thanks for all the videos. 👍

[@EdTannenbaum]

Kookeee!!! Gooood info!

[@fun4youalltime612]

THANKS

[@boardingbrute7715]

youre the best thank you for making this video merci o/

[@חמוצים-ר5ס]

Wow. I would really like a COOKIE right now..

[@coreys2686]

"C" is for cookie, that's good enough for me! Bonus points for anyone who knows that reference.

[@oizukitom]

Cookie Monster sings a song with those lyrics. "Cookie cookie cookie starts with C"

[@gregtracy9322]

That song goes back a few years...

[@yaucheukchung]

Maybe you only have 4K views for this kind of topic, but u really save 4K ppl.

[@morizanova8219]

Yeah Z up sometimes slow me down to harness the great of blender features

[@blenderstuffs]

Amazing 😍😍

[@shubhamwankhede9900]

thank you so much Sr.🙌

[@mitch7571]

Tres beau decor!!!

[@merseyviking]

I do a lot of work with GIS (z-up) and Unity (y-up), and the faff I have to go through every time is painful! Then there's handedness which is a whole can of worms...

[@santiagocamino9324]

very usefull as always thank u!!

[@daveindezmenez]

You know what would make a lot of sense? If the various file formats for transferring files between different apps simply had a flag to identify the software used to export it. That way the importer for the software being used to import that file in could automatically make the necessary adjustments to make it work during the import process. It could swap out Z for Y if needed. It could apply the scale to be right in that app, etc. I really have no idea why those clever programmers who create all this stuff haven't thought of this.

[@smartmoney2503]

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[@BlenderBob]

Just subscribe with the alarm. You will get an email every time I publish something. :-)

[@taerog]

Extremely useful! 🍪

[@DavesChaoticBrain]

Please tell me you made a mistake at 13:50 describing Aperture. 100 years of photography and Maya had better not be using the word "Aperture" wrong. The Aperture of a camera is the size of the opening in the shutter. It's where we get the F1.4, F5.6, F11 numberings from. Looking at the settings I have no idea what the inches and mm measurements could possibly be indicating. If it really does refer to the sensor size, that's seriously annoying.

[@DavesChaoticBrain]

Also, what is the film you mention at 27:55? I didn't quite catch the name...And also also, Frank doesn't make cookies.

[@BlenderBob]

Welcome to Marwen

[@BlenderBob]

It's both actually. In cinematography, when you talk about 'full app", it means that the film gate is completely open to cover a 4:3 ration, four perforations on film. But yeah, kind of dumb on the Maya side to call this aperture instead of film gate.

[@Uradamus]

Collada's main use case is providing a reliable source of instant stress and confusion and will leave you questioning your life choices that led you to having to deal with .dae files, heh. Best to be avoided at all costs if possible as no DCC, engine, or game implements it the same way.

[@BlenderBob]

Ah ah!

[@AlexCarby]

Cookie, is Unreal engine being used more in VFX?

[@BlenderBob]

Only for virtual studios; LED walls like in Mandelorian. But Unreal 5 will be a game changer

[@RomboutVersluijs]

You should check out import options for those importers. A lot of your issues can be solved using the propper settings. Mainly being scale, manual orientation. For the obje you can import use separate groups or materials

[@RomboutVersluijs]

I noticed when you imported the obj, you did not show the import options. Obj importer can also do lots adjustments when importing files

[@German_CG_Artist]

Imagine if in the future you could just export something from blender (cycles) to usd and import it into Houdini, with all the shaders already set up. Cycles to RenderMan will soon come to renderman, the future is interesting

[@BlenderBob]

Cycles to Renderman?

[@German_CG_Artist]

@@BlenderBob yes, they released a RenderMan version for blender, and there is a button, which will let you convert cycles to renderman, rendeman for blender is an alpha or beta version, so it doesn’t work right now, but it hopefully will in a couple months

[@BlenderBob]

That’s what I thought you were talking about but it’s already in Renderman and it works. I’m preparing a Blender Bob about it.

[@stefanguiton]

Great stuff

[@bronzekoala9141]

GLTF ist mostly used for Games and webgl Rendering. Not so much for produktion. Imo the better alternative to fbx for games assets because it's open and human readable.

[@vrSpeechless]

So blender viewport is kind of table view rather than screen view...maybe this will future proof blender for virtual reality, no?

[@BlenderBob]

I have no idea what so ever. :-/

[@vrSpeechless]

@@BlenderBob or maybe it doesn't matter, they are just a bunch of alphabets, could be a, b, c axis, for example.

[@gottagowork]

Cookie? Lolwut? This stuff isn't something I have to consider thankfully. But I have to say, what a mess... Be glad we're not dealing with 4D geometry :D Can't wait to have cameras properly explained. What does (from camera spec sheet) sensor size 8.5mm (1/3") mean? Or Image Sensor Size 1/1.4 - that's not close to the 16:9 aspect it delivers - so how to deal with that? So far I've just been guessing and I've come pretty close - no complaints anyway. We sometimes do something like security camera simulations to see what they cover, and we know sensor size (but don't know what to do with it), focal length/field of view and some other unrelated data. You don't have to get into this if you had something completely different in mind.

[@BlenderBob]

I am dealing with 4D geometry... I'm in total hell. I may do the lease tutorial before the Renderman one

[@fahim618]

Love you man! ❤️

[@elconquistador3340]

you can definitely in maya parent and move an animated alembic with its input connections on the transforms without a problem

[@BlenderBob]

I found it strange that it didn't work with just a group. It should. I don't use Maya anymore and I'm getting lost when I go back. I only use it for UVs. I lost 24 years of muscle memory

[@BlenderBob]

But the input is already driven by the alembic cache....

[@elconquistador3340]

@@BlenderBob yeah the input of the transform are are connected to the alembic, but if it's under another transform it should work as expected, i just tried now. My guess is that you have this option unchecked "inherits Transform" on one of your underneath transform node.

[@BlenderBob]

Oh buy! I completely forgot about the inherit transform option. Now I look like a moron for Maya people....

[@elconquistador3340]

@@BlenderBob you are still on blender 2.83 right? i think now on the 2.93 when you export an alembic it will get the inherit transform by default.

[@RomboutVersluijs]

Ps you can fix that issue with the camera import you had, simply adjust the orientation on import and use 100scalw. Feels like Maya exports in a different scale. Just Dave that setting as a Maya import setting

[@coreys2686]

Ironically, I think Pablo said USD import is part of Blender now. It was on Blender Today this morning.

[@tomasmatys8909]

Hmm... It is still not if you follow developer.blender.org/D10700

[@BlenderBob]

Well, if they want to change the core, they might as well give us the option to go Y up! :-)

[@fifthfunction3787]

man i use the same guitar hero mic as well lol... i have even got others but they just dont sound as good lol

[@Eyeofdajjal]

For me, only fbx import properly in Blender. Obj only has one, sometimes more, basic materials and is 99% 1000 times too large. Fbx is mostly scaled correctly, sometimes the base colour node is missing. Just purchased better fbx importer, curious how well it will work

[@RomboutVersluijs]

You should have a look at the rokoko addon. They have made improvements on the fbx import and made it mich faster vs blenders importer

[@Ch405G4m1nG]

LEGEND!!

[@hasanhuseyindincer5334]

Nice.

[@BenjiTIE]

cookie!!! Nice video!

[@alexandreancel6423]

But do "cookies" prefer Y or Z up ?? ;)

[@BlenderBob]

X up

[@prodeous]

How much Canadian Tire bucks is that Cookie. Is C T bucks still a thing?

[@BlenderBob]

Yep, still is.

[@brucemarshall1439]

Cookie!!! 😎

[@Tarex_]

Cookies for blender Bob 🥦

[@Pepeb]

Collada is still used in Second Life :D

[@ArtfulRascal8]

thanks!

[@aryan7378]

Can you make Scribble effect in Blender?

[@BlenderBob]

Huh? Got an example?

[@aryan7378]

@@BlenderBob I mean that can we draw on a video in Blender

[@BlenderBob]

I don’t think so. Maybe with grease pencil but I never use it.

[@exploring2351]

which format of 3d file can be open in android directly if possible please suggest

[@BlenderBob]

No idea. FXB if you install FXB reader from autodesk

[@chidoum]

Ok, Cookie but then PUSH-UPS :D

[@ProjectAtlasmodling]

X and y are map coordinates and z is altitude

[@BlenderBob]

Interesting. Then why are some software working Y up?

[@ProjectAtlasmodling]

@@BlenderBob It's probably do to how the software got started. Most came from companies that where once part of the the 2d industry or had people who were. So they used the y up because of there 2d experience. Blender however had a much different background and thus went with a more sensible Z up. There's no real difference in the end other than preference. An Axis is just a label.

[@BlenderBob]

@@ProjectAtlasmodling not when that label doesn't match with the rest of my univers ;-)

[@Dilligff]

@@ProjectAtlasmodling I'd argue that the axis orientation is a constant relative to the camera. With x and y being width and height respectively and z consistently being depth. Where the confusion lies is where each editor has their own idea of whether or not the cameras default orientation should be considered perpendicular (thus a z up orientation) or parallel to the ground plane (thus a y up orientation) during the editing process.

[@Edifieth]

Can you model a microphone?

[@BlenderBob]

Yeah but it won't be very good for recording.... :-)

[@iimoonee1354]

I have mdl model from ps3 game how can I opening this file in blender ? please answer me🥺💗

[@BlenderBob]

Which format is it in?

[@iimoonee1354]

@@BlenderBob mdl

[@leucome]

I think leaf bones are artifacts from software who work with zero length bones. So for these each bone is made of two bones so the imported files have an additional useless bone at the end of each bones. Probably.

[@BlenderBob]

Yeah, probably. Looks like that.

[@KashTahen]

🍪 it is good you call Canadian Tire, Canadian Tire in Quebec :)) I have problem finding LCBO in your land :))

[@BlenderBob]

Well, you won't find much alcohol at Canadian Tire. Try SAQ instead. :-)

[@GreatZeus85]

My brain hurts... just, give me a minute. Also, cake! I mean, cookie!

[@darty367]

Pourquoi les albums de tintin au mur ?

[@BlenderBob]

Pourquoi pas? C'est jolie, non? :-)

[@rajendrameena150]

Just like 3d, there should be universal 2d format, autodesk dwg is not supported in blender correctly but needed for every archviz project. Thats why people avoid switching to blender.

[@massimoconcimedia612]

This is partly due to the fact that DWG is licensed by auto desk and to use the RealDWG SDK to develope a 3rd party applications supporting DWG money needs to be paid for the licensing. Obviously for free software this is a problem, so is usually reverse engineered.

[@pauliusmscichauskas558]

I really don't get what the problem is with Z up... It's just how an axis is called. It doesn't change what it does. So... why can't blender just import X values of the file to X, Y to Z and Z to Y. No need to rotate anything, or apply any transforms etc...

[@BlenderBob]

That’s because you don’t need to deal with Maya, zBrush, Nuke or any other software that are Y up.

[@eknight2904]

File formats are the bane of existence if it comes to cross platform use. E.g. combining Blender with Marvelous designer to create animated cloth, sometimes it makes sense to combine formats, e.g. taking an OBJ for the mesh from MD and import into Blender, then import the alembic through a modifier and use it as a cache on the OBJ instead of importing the Alembic directly as this creates a proxy mesh that drives you mad. Similar with Collada. My main issue, nothing of this is properly documented. It. Took me ages to find the right forum thread that explained that you have to toggle a very specific switch for OBJ export to avoid hassle and the standard, of course, does not use it. Sigh… sigh again… despair - LOL.

[@b4fun82]

Full video

[@topgunpilot2547]

Cookie!;☺️

[@MissaelKaban]

i think blender 3.0 support USD import now

[@Kram1032]

Cookie but you gotta change your code sometime or people will start expecting that's the code and just write it without watching at all :P

[@artemsh6302]

default cube. when is the sequel?)

[@BlenderBob]

Sequel to file formats?

[@petebateman143]

RANT I hate proprietary file formats with a passion you can only dream of. So many people "share" things in formats you can only use with thousands of dollars worth of software. Why bother? Is it because it makes you feel special like a member of a club rubbing everyone else's nose in the fact that they can't afford the software? When I share stuff, which I do, I do it in open formats. Anyone can use it. /RANT Great breakdown btw....

[@BlenderBob]

But there are no format so far that can support everything. USD is probably the best contender but I don't think it will support bones.

[@gerdokurt]

Sorry, what a stupid comment! " So many people "share" things in formats you can only use with thousands of dollars worth of software. Why bother?" Because there are people who use the software. Because there are many students who can use and work with this kind of software for free. "Is it because it makes you feel special like a member of a club rubbing everyone else's nose in the fact that they can't afford the software?" No, it is because professional people use professional industry tools which, guess what, cost money. Ask your barber how much he paid for his scissor. Probably 1000 dollars! He doesnt use it because he wants to make you look poor and stupid, he uses it for the best result for the customer! Why so mad? Why even care at all?

[@BlenderBob]

"Why so mad? Why care at all?" Are you talking about me or you? Because on my side I work as a professional and I di have acmes to all the big expansive software but it still doesn't work properly. All these pro formats are available in pretty much all the software, pro or not.

[@gerdokurt]

@@BlenderBob "Are you talking about me or you?" Bob, Im talking to the person (pete bateman, the RANT guy) whose comment I quoted, not to you or about you! You only got a notification because you already wrote a comment in the subthread, I didnt adressed the comment to you.

[@petebateman143]

@@BlenderBob Haha! Nothing personal! You just bought up the subject!

[@gerdokurt]

Cant you define the axis definitions when exporting in FBX from blender? I dont know how it is with cameras, but with geometry it works fine! ps: z-up >>>>>>> y-up !! prove me wrong !😘 oh, as always, great video! I hate different file formats like hell, in aec industry it`s probably even worse! In a better universe, there are less file formats!

[@BlenderBob]

By default all export adding are set to Yup.

[@chrismoac3785]

@@BlenderBob there is an option in the import function to put to y-up... and also witch way is forward...(default to -z forward) and when you change these like so much in blender it becomes default... then you can save the default file and it will be that way always... these things are also in the import function as well as the output function. there is already a maya preset for the look of blender... maybe the foundation can expand this option to also be able to have maya defaults for this too.

[@EdmundasPilvelis]

Cookie!

[@BlenderBob]

Man... I said 2022.... I was really tired...

[@MikeDBoing]

You suffer from HugelyAmbitiouslyOverdrivenMarketurAttention Dissorder...All the software vendors are ahead by 1 year, they are that advanced.....(COUGH_BS_COUGH)

[@gerdokurt]

You know what this terrible mistake means, Bob! Push-ups at the beginning of the next video!

[@BlenderBob]

Will do, promise

[@LightFilmsUK]

Cookie!!

[@hippapasworkshop146]

Cookie. But my brain hurts!