Filing Two Complaints Against Internal Affairs Investigators

[@TheRsbas]

You made me laugh when you said they might take it seriously.

[@tektkite7255]

they are still laughing about the complaint

[@Solo-_-..]

🤣🤣no kidding

[@johnsmith1953x]

They will take it quite seriously when the FBI shows up kicked their Blue Scumbag, lying arses...

[@calinmarius5344]

😂😂😂😂😂 seriously ...😅😅😅

[@TheCBC1984]

"We investigated ourselves and declared us to be heroes."

[@-108-]

Haha Nah, they declared themselves heroes long before that.

[@readytogo6569]

🤮🤣👍

[@davidsmith-uo7lj]

But we all know they are zeroes.

[@rtjames]

...even more heroic than previously thought.

[@johnsmith1953x]

That's not too far from the truth...sadly....

[@grandisbooks9698]

Hilarious - the permit guys were available from 7:45 am - 9:30 am. The fact that they think that's acceptable is indicative of no accountability. Pathetic.

[@Charmcity199]

“We don’t have any secrets” but you can’t record

[@Michael-r8x1t]

This!!

[@MilotLLC]

They meant they wanna talk to u crazy n when u foa it won't exist

[@lizcollinson2692]

Absolutely

[@andywilcox111]

Gotta love when the government refers to citizens as “outsiders”

[@jeremy072579]

Citizen's are outsiders, Americans are not. Stop being a citizen/subject/slave. They made no mistakes by saying that.

[@andywilcox111]

@@MatthewHensley8304 sorry m8, I think you missed the point

[@Mikevdog]

They also keep it impersonal by calling us suspects and subjects.

[@brianmurray8247]

​@@MatthewHensley8304British and Canadians are not citizens they are subjects of the crown - that's why both need to get rid of the monarchy .

[@grantmcclellan777]

​@@MatthewHensley8304I refer to myself as a National..I was born here I didn't have to gain my Citizenship..

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

When you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys!

[@yanchee2023]

It is not a policy, just the way we do something, not law, not policy, just some shady stuff we do.

[@robertsmith2956]

Needed to ask him will it be free to get the recording? Because my camera doesn't charge me anything. If that was there it has very poor video. I never saw anyone move, not even their lips.

[@ericstanke3291]

"We will have a recording and you will never get a copy of said recording"

[@lizcollinson2692]

Absolutely the only reason they don't want other people to record is so they can manipulate.

[@jones8102]

Notice how they act like they never heard of the GOAT 😂

[@vivianewing7154]

FOIA for the recording and police departments can take up to two years before you get the copy you requested. They don't go by the law themselves.

[@denjhill]

Never, ever trust any cop to be honorable.

[@thingsweshouldkno]

My sister is a cop, once that armor is on Honor is out the window

[@PandPNews]

Show me a honorable cop and I will show you a politician that does not lie.

[@svenpoletka5236]

@@PandPNews That's not fair, since both are allowed to lie equally without honor

[@debrasnow4261]

⁠​⁠@@PandPNewsok! Good luck finding that politician😂

[@debrasnow4261]

@@svenpoletka5236Amen to that😅

[@Stan_is_that_guy]

They hear this man's name and get scared. Mr. Turner. The legend.

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Yeap...

[@targetedcitizen3160]

Nope. Not one cop that violated philios rights had any money out of their pay a judgement. None of the cops were fired. They are never held acccountable.

[@SpankyMedic7]

I think ‘legend’ is a little bit of a stretch.

[@dishonoredundead]

@@SpankyMedic7 He is the Turner, in Turner v Driver. VERY often cited case law. So he is a legend to people who study, or enforce the law. But none of these people follow the laws anymore, or even know them, so probably not. But all cops have heard his name during training, so I think it qualifies. Or at least should.

[@SpankyMedic7]

@@dishonoredundead I know exactly who he is…and his name on case law hardly makes him a legend.

[@billtate6962]

"we don't allow outsiders to record"....yeah you can do a FOIA request...that we'll want you to PAY for...Never should be LEGAL to make it mandatory that you can't record your OWN record....and then charge a FEE to get a copy of THEIR record.

[@jamierupert7563]

The taxpayers have paid for those body cams and should NOT have to pay again to get the recordings. We already did.

[@SPAMDAGGER22]

Called the public "outsiders"

[@johnh6404]

Disgraceful.

[@russell3380]

Outsiders pay all the bills around here.

[@donbeam4072]

Corruption from the top down

[@williammckern1442]

"I can record but you can't. You know -- for transparency."

[@hearsemanjeff1477]

Having to give u your 4th amendment rights to see an officer is a civil rights violation. That sign needs to come down

[@GiganticRooster-kn2lj]

The 4th amendment is a constitutional right, not a "civil right." It may seem like a petty difference, but constitutional rights are endowed by your creator, and civil rights were granted by government legislation.

[@billtate6962]

Everything they do usually violates some right that we have....it's because they absolutely disdain the Constitution....and look for ways to subvert it whenever possible....our current government is definitely the government our forefathers warned us about.

[@charlieharrington1144]

​@@GiganticRooster-kn2lj 💯 bammmm

[@walkingman8943]

@@GiganticRooster-kn2ljnot trying to be confrontational, but I believe the government has never granted us any rights, regardless of what they believe. The ninth amendment indicates there are other rights that haven’t been enumerated that we retain. Our creator endowed us with every single one.

[@rispatha]

I understand top a point about signing in to a government building for one reason only. They already should know who is there in the building regarding the employees. By signing in you are letting them know that you are present in the building should an emergency occur while you are there and they need to locate you and or identify your body after the fact. Beyond that I see no other purpose behind signing in to any government building. My problem is that if you refuse to sign in they refuse to let you conduct any business within the building which that becomes the real issue here. I would also understand if you were carrying a large bag or backpack or other stuff that could contain objects used for nefarious means. They can't have you sneaking around the building planting bombs even though they do have cameras all over the place these days compared to the days prior to video cameras being a huge factor in observing things live as they occur. It is a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation but I can understand to a point why they want people to sign in. That doesn't mean you can't sign in using Bob Yerhead as your name. They cannot force you to produce an ID either of which that would be a violation of the 4th amendment.

[@michaela6147]

They investigated themselves and found no wrong doing.

[@ivepeters]

As always

[@jonr473]

As well as no wrong doing we promoted ourselves with huge pay rises 🤔

[@-suphur]

@@jonr473 And overtime, lots of overtime.

[@paul-ld9vh]

They investigated themselves and determined that they are all heroes

[@dishonoredundead]

They investigated their investigation, and found no wrong doing. I still think this is a badass thing to do.

[@matttartal7637]

We all know how this ends; “we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.”

[@clintonhanson]

In conclusion Mr. Turner we investigated the investigator and found no wrong doing.

[@dannysanders4327]

They are going to investigate and back the initial investigation. You will never beat the loyalty of a gang

[@NicholasAlt]

Keepfiling complaints right up the chain. Is the mayor going to co- sign that a cop acting with obvious bias did nothing wrong? If we can't trust the police to be fair and impartial when handling complaints then we live in a tyrannical police state. I 'd love to see the mayor and governor sign off on that. The complaints should be brought to our elected officials before that.

[@cmasterson]

You can’t record but I can and you can pay to have it. Got it! That’s our government for you. $100k a year each to not answer the phones.

[@boostedlss6450]

Controlling freaks, you can't record YOUR interaction during the interview, but you're expected to trust them. I gotta say it's also so super convenient to have to file a FOIA for the record of the interview. Their actions speak volumes.

[@deemeedee4862]

I marked my own homework & got 100%

[@godbless9563]

Exactly

[@theDavid_B]

This guy is definitely one of my top 5 favorite auditor's

[@reflect.]

Him and Jeff Gray are the best auditors.

[@Chad-lu1sf]

It's like a grocery store calling its customers undesirables. You mentioned you had a camera and those two Jack Boots looked at each other as if you stole a hot dog. It's all horseshit and misdirection

[@AnnaBananaRepublic]

We’re not forced to give our money to a grocery store. Cops are like thieves who break into your house, pretend to fix something (breaking it in the process), steal your stuff, then demand that you pay them for the service they provided. Of COURSE they have no respect for the dupes they’ve robbed. The dupes are so stupid they even call them “public servants.”

[@michaeldose2041]

Thank you Mr. Turner for your service.

[@wendyw2118]

They will say no wrongdoing always the same answer

[@dsabre4990]

It's a foregone conclusion: They will not actually re-investigate themselves but will determine they did nothing wrong.

[@kerryedavis]

There really need to be some options for citizens to initiate criminal proceedings against public employees/officials. Relying on the officials to prosecute themselves is foolish.

[@-suphur]

Some departments have a citizen oversight committee, I can't be sure how cozy they are with those they are supposed to investigate.

[@kerryedavis]

@@-suphur but still all they could do is a referral to a DA office or something. Not sufficient. It's like when some Biden official is found in contempt of Congress and they turn it over to the Biden DOJ. Nothing.

[@crazy916]

​@@-suphur Most citizen oversight committees have no power. Police departments get to decide what information they have access to including evidence, witnesses, and personnel files. Then the chief of police or sheriff can completely ignore any recommendation made by the oversight committee.

[@-suphur]

@@crazy916 Well, there you go, no better that way, the police still hold all the cards. What needs to happen is total access to the evidence and even take the control of the BWC footage away from the police. The disciplinary system needs to be taken over by those committees too, obviously.

[@lactusgalacto1174]

@@-suphur They get bribes and perks

[@randylaw2744]

I was at that same building 1 years ago ago to get a food permit for my business. I refused to show ID in order to go upstairs to the office I needed. They called the police and the police asked me to leave! I left because I had a lot of errands that day. Showed up the next day and was able to handle my business with no issues! I see they are back at it again. Time for a FOIA to see who approved that policy and challenge it!

[@imthefoodguy.]

It’s a long game. The next case law named after you will be dismantling “We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.”

[@sandydobbie1255]

Please keep us updated these corrupt cops must be held accountable !!! I’m sure they will see no wrongdoing, this is the biggest problem when they investigate themselves !!! Great work P T !!!

[@gally3451]

The GOAT at work

[@mr.duanesharpe]

The work at GOAT

[@ubuntuafrique5802]

Cop: “We don’t have any secrets. Same cop: “We don’t have any secrets”

[@Jo-yp8wy]

She doesn't know who Mr Turner is? 😂😂😂

[@CyberCurtainTwitcher]

I'm in the UK, and even I know who he is!!

[@scorpioguyto2]

Turner v Driver. Bro, you’re in the patriot Hall of Fame. Our freedoms matter .. much respect to you.

[@xbrandon502x]

Can't wait to see the next update when you file a complaint on the complaint of the complaint.

[@SIDCIAVIC]

If complaints were handled appropriately there wouldn't be anyone there to take complaints.

[@MrJmcrash]

Gaining the hate one citizen at a time.

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

The " Office of Police Oversight" should be busy 24/7. Maybe that's why they did not return his calls.

[@coupe50h]

He had to copsplain the last part about bailing on him, you know he was hoping Phillip would give up and leave.

[@vivianpatton5692]

They will probably sweep it under the rug.

[@catonsvilleman6900]

She's certainly dressed for sweeping up.

[@mariannallan2204]

Good for you for continuing to push against all odds. Without people like you things would never change. Great work!

[@anemberinthenight]

Government hard at work. Show up for an hour and half and go home

[@crazy916]

I feel bad for the other guy that showed up. Needing a permit to carry a firearm was ridiculous enough, but then the government agents think they can be open for only one hour and 45 minutes in the day.

[@MrMjn5000]

we are the government and we are here to help....."you can't record but we will........we have no secrets here....."

[@illinoisterry3210]

Good luck with being fair they're all part of the blue line

[@JamesMauer-v7b]

I just wanna thank you for standing up for all our rights and again finding unprecedented ways of holding our government accountable. True brilliance and a joy to watch. Thanks again, another good citizen.

[@brucecook8473]

Everybody investigated everybody and we found no wrongdoing!

[@bizzyb7th]

How convenient that they had another appointment. They've pulled that one on me before. I've waited 3 hrs for a "sergeant" when making a complaint, only for him to tell me he investigated and found nothing wrong. Mind you, this was a complaint about an officer giving me tickets for a particular code violation; one that I discovered did not exist once I looked it up. As you can imagine, the sergeant stopped answering me after I texted him with follow ups. They're all corrupt.

[@petermastenbroek7719]

The words "CORRUPT" and "POLICE" are inter changeable.

[@FrankParady]

You're asking one pack of criminals to investigate another? Mad respect but it's a waste of time..... they hide from accountability constantly....

[@russell3380]

We investigated the investigations of our investigators and our investigation determined all were investigated properly and exceeded all of our investigative expectations regarding investigations.

[@alsanderson4917]

Balls of steel dude. You could hear the fear in this supervisors voice. He knows exactly who you are and is desperately trying to figure out what your agenda is and how to counter it.

[@sickofgovwaste]

Obfuscation and WASTE. Disgusting. If you get justice, I'll be astonished.

[@AlecKeller]

NOT A SINGLE STEP BACK PHILIP... YOU ARE THE BEST

[@Skemmatik]

“No no, there’s no law saying that you can’t record. But you won’t record. We won’t let you record, it’s just our practice.” Hm, yeah, seems legit

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

they went for a nice little lunch whilst you waited

[@birdman7135]

That little meeting they had to "sneak off to" was with their legal advisor after they found out who you were. At (10:30) this becomes obvious as the one investigator tells you, "I know we have that on file." ... They did their pre-work before seeing you.

[@degsiemcdegface459]

"We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" 💯

[@lizcollinson2692]

"We have a record" but the complainant doesn't.

[@yellowtexasrose]

The outcome will be "we found no wrong doing in an investigation of our finding of no wrong doing".

[@martj1313]

They file the complaint in the trash and tell the dirty pigs to harass you more.

[@lmac400m96]

Cops: We can record you, but you can't record us. Gotcha! 🙄🐷

[@johnmclaughlin9930]

“We don’t have any secrets, everything is recorded.” Can I get a copy? “No, you need to do a public records request and we will deny you a copy because it’s a matter of investigation….”

[@chrisvoss451]

Fish rots from the head down

[@dearblabby]

I feel like your mom. If I were, I'd tell you how proud of you I am and you're amazing. God Bless!!

[@johnathandouglas007]

Him: Mind if I help this gentleman first? Also him: Sorry I can't help u....

[@LivelysReport]

If they are going to record and you can get that on FOIA, then why would they not allow you to simply record yourself? Please make sense of that for me, unless they are going to redact anything which they deem harmful to themselves or are simply lying saying you can get the footage via FOIA, but their not going to give it to you and they are just flat out lying about it.. Or final, is it simply a money grab to get a few bucks for the footage?

[@nic.h]

Control and obstacles

[@anthonytyler8766]

We don't allow outsiders.... what? You're a public servant, we're your boss, not an outsider.

[@IllinoisblueLineBerserkerwatch]

HFTCD #freeericbrant...they all protect each other.

[@stoopidhoomons]

Eric ain't getting out anytime soon , he knew what he did, he accepted his punishment because he knew what he did was wrong. i respect him for that , for being accountable for his bad actions .

[@richardobriansmith794]

I love how organized you are. Thanks for following up with complaints AND following up on how the initial complaints were handled. Keep plugging away bro. Accountability is KEY to protecting your rights!

[@ThePeachtree69]

These completely “we hold ourselves accountable” theatrics are the first thing they will point to when legislation gets started over enough people being pissed about police mistreatment.

[@xusmico187]

private renta cops guarding PD

[@buyerofsorts]

"Are you recording"?? Oh ah well.... I'm fine with that". Gee, are you? Well that's nice of you!

[@Johnny2Badd]

He is putting the policy violation in WITH his complaint and/or any law they broke! Very smart pay attention folks!

[@user-eh5cr4or6k]

Why would you need to show ID to get Public Services?

[@baddazzriderturner3321]

We share the same last name and you make me proud of that, just keep on keeping on my brother of another mother

[@drdoc7508]

Police Oversight?? LOL.. Yes, They Overlook and NO oversight of themselves-- SMH

[@petroliatank]

You sir are a patriot!

[@Sourkraut169]

I think that the audio recording will not be released to you, because it is part of the investigation. And they will find no wrong doing on the part of the officers.

[@zemalou]

In Texas, it's a One Party Consent State. You can record them. It's not against the law.

[@bostonredsox0909]

Great follow up and accountability work! 👍🇺🇸

[@heathbain2543]

Never talk to them with out a lawyer and always record. They will magically lose their recordings

[@NaturalBornRights]

Not many people can afford to carry attorneys in their pockets

[@JamesMauer-v7b]

@@NaturalBornRights for those of us you can’t afford an attorney recording is always the way to go

[@Bruce4lmighty]

Well done! I think you are onto something here and I’m really looking forward to the next update. Thanks 👍🏻

[@chrish1657]

"We don't have any secrets... but you can't record us."

[@GillKennedy-tm9xx]

🇦🇺 Much respect and love from Magnetic Island Australia ❤

[@AndyB718]

Use to be able to go to the feds,but now that they've been exposed, that doesn't really work

[@RRachwal21]

I love your follow up exposing the whole dog and pony show. Now I know why things are so expensive. Taxpayers money down the drain.

[@chrisnelson4632]

We will have our recording, but if something goes wrong, we will lose it.

[@adaptedbythedans]

We need more of this. IA is a joke and needs to be exposed for what it is. Great work!

[@Livingfree29]

No more we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong.

[@gregkasza1925]

Thanks for all you do Mr. Bat! I love what you have helped to start regarding standing up for our rights.

[@carma459]

Thank you, Sir, for fighting the good fight. Your name will go down in history.

[@BouillaBased]

How would they know if you're recording? If the law allows them to record, it not just allows but insists that you record, as well. So just record it covertly. It's the only way you're protected, since your recording can't disappear, have audio or video redacted, or require months or years to retrieve in a FOIA request. Last I checked, organizational "practices" don't come with a statute, let alone a period of incarceration.

[@howardg7162]

You got to have a lawyer to be taken seriously im afraid and let them do it

[@brucherrin8947]

We don't allow OUTSIDERS to record ... WTF !

[@DragonflyW]

It is great that you filed a complaint about the investigators. There should be an outside committee investigating. The cannot seem to be honest about investigating officers that violate people & punish them accordingly. If you know them, work with them and/or friends, you have a responsibility & obligation to do the right thing for the people you serve. I hope you get some justice! Appreciate & love what you do!!! Be safe!!!

[@tukes1234]

We investigated our investigators and found no wrongdoing

[@myfrestuff3453]

These traitors and cowards are for feet first blue line parades.

[@flagetbrave]

Looking forward to seeing how the complaints were resolved.

[@activeshooter9350]

🗑

[@stonefly69]

Great vid, Battousai. Looking forward to the follow-up, but not holding my breath that HPD will do anything..