Film Editing | Magpie | Children's TV | 1977

Thames TV's educational programmes 'Finding out' takes a peek behind the scenes of 'Magpie' In this clip Mick Robertson explains how film shot on location is edited.
First shown: 13/06/1977
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[@joshu6394]

All these can be done with just a few clicks in Adobe Premiere while sipping coffee. Massive respect to the film editors that made the timeless films we're enjoying now.

[@l21n18]

Imagine those people who hd to make the transition though

[@gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086]

now we have all kind of tools but films are decreasing their quality

[@maximf.5537]

But why is it less interesting, film looks better... Digital always looks cheap to me

[@Da.Liar-Pig]

Especially there is no watermark back in the old days of film editing

[@print-master]

and it shows its done with a few clicks on adobe premiere

[@ResakuMaatsuda]

It's amazing how they used to edit films back in the 70s.

[@Keithbarber]

And this was cutting edge in the day (and I *DO NOT* mean cutting the edge of the film) - if anybody mistakes that for a silly pun

[@print-master]

@@Keithbarber all the way to the mid 90's

[@nathanventura548]

Well into the 2000s

[@emoshiro]

You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

[@qzcancel]

I’ll never complain about editing iMovie videos again

[@EJCharles]

I use iMovie

[@itsmantu4097]

i use filmora 😁

[@w.e.s.]

I movie is for kids

[@Samuel_Brinkley]

I use PowerDirector

[@badrider2618]

😂

[@emoshiro]

You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

[@LeonithOneil]

Back in the days when we need a whole room to edit videos

[@blitzen5038]

now video editors just work from their beds lol

[@HistoryandReviews]

@@blitzen5038 cell phones or mac minis

[@emoshiro]

You physically edit yourself, you can touch your media, literally feel it. I bet it is beautiful once you know what you're doing. I love this so much!

[@BBT609]

Now THATS why the director clap board was made!

[@spectremodtrain5936]

It's still used. You have the same video/audio syncing trick nowadays

[@parsaakbari2381]

Idiot

[@EditScribe]

This video made me increase in editing passion. Thank god i hope i finally found the origin of ‘editing’

[@givemethevalium]

Fascinating; actually makes my head throb to see how hard it used to be. Lacing the tape up in that telecine machine looks so complicatedly ridiculous. I wonder what year this sort of thing was finally ditched for cassette tapes?

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Givemethevalium Givemethevalium Some stations kept these going into the 80's.

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

I said that video editor must have been a genius. He made it look so easy.

[@nathanventura548]

Tape still requires editing too in a process that's very similar.

[@jaylendavis4840]

I been wondering how they did this since I was like 15 I watched this whole video with a smile on my face. Dope!

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

Yeah, I just decided to look it up because I make videos on here. I'm just a novice but once I started learning how to cut & trim parts of videos, it really made me wonder how they used to do it.

[@booshkoosh7994]

That's an art that should never be abandoned. Very insightful indeed. Thank you!

[@Zygecks]

and here we are, paying for a premiere pro subscription and editing

[@blitzen5038]

you pay for it !?

[@ThrowbackGames_]

@@blitzen5038 yes, premiere costs money. It’s way worth it rather than editing like this fucking video, lmao

[@blitzen5038]

@@ThrowbackGames_ have you heard of pirating software? I was joking because Adobe products are expensive and a lot of people pirate them, I don't doubt people use the program lol

[@ThrowbackGames_]

@@blitzen5038 I’m not really comfortable with pirating, plus, I have the one where you suits pay a couple hundred dollars so you don’t have to pay every month

[@yk_zeus]

@@blitzen5038 i also have pirated it🙂

[@filmsforallnations]

I used to love Magpie, when I was a child. Magpie was ITV's answer to Blue Peter. Both shows were amazing and educational to young audiences. Editing a television programmes used to be so intricate (unlike today on digital computers).

[@MadameSomnambule]

So that explains the markings I'd see on old films once in a while. They're for syncing audio.

[@onyx050]

Much respect to the editors andirectors and everyone involved in film woww

[@Snugglepaw]

Imagine you mess up, now you have to go back and cut out one or two frames, tape it back up, and run it back the telecine

[@joehiggs100]

Been there, done that and worse. I haven't seen examples of dubbing charts on the internet from the rock n roll dubbing suites they had then. Could be works of art.

[@AndrewDoom]

And i used to think Final Cut Pro was a pain...we live in very luxurious times

[@T0ra99]

@@AndrewDoom No I think it's very justified, with tools getting better expectations of quality also went up, so in a way the challenge factor never changed, only became more accessible.

[@AndrewDoom]

@@T0ra99 true. That’s a good way of looking at it!

[@arfansthename]

Well, if you're very experienced, that's highly unlikely.

[@cjkalandek996]

Shooting on film may be better for sure, but no one can disagree that editing digitally is easier.

[@l21n18]

You can do both

[@koppo5657]

even tape editing is easier

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I still have one of those 16mm tape splicers shown here!

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

It just feels proper to me!

[@joehiggs100]

@airscrew1 Good, try and share them.

[@andyvan5692]

wow, that interlude brought me back to my teens, as in Australia, all the abc (Australian broadcasting commission) programs, esp. the british content had this, and I am now 41! beautiful program, as no one holds film anymore, it's all digital magnetic signals, so what a refreshing experience.

[@B1PFilms]

wow... I guess I got it easy... I'll never taking video editing for granted ever again.

[@fraserkatie]

Another interesting clip of how they edit film and sound! Thanks!

[@ianhand5006]

That brought back some happy childhood memories!

[@singlelit0]

So precise! Great video

[@DavidBrocekArt]

It's so funny how he just slapped that ducktape on the tape haha. Love this.

[@emoshiro]

Omg this looks so amazing and interesting. He was physically cutting the footage, not press C to cut. I love this so much

[@Stalking-jw6ip]

And here i'm editing videos on my phone in rhe comfort of my couch

[@jaflischannel]

Fun fact: the editor edited a video of Thames while watching himself edit, probably, idk

[@janvincentrodriguez257]

imagine editing clips like this just to post in Instragram stories lol

[@KampalaStudio]

Love l😂😂

[@jhjhjhjhjhjhify]

Funny how some directors pine for the days where everything was shot on film, and yet no editor ever complains about editing on computers.

[@GreatGizmo74]

As someone that was born in 2008, I really want to do this. Just analogue editing seems really cool to me, all the really cool techonogly and you had hole rooms and teams to produces a pieces of media. Now some twat in their bedroom can just made a video on a device about as small as a pocket book. I just wish there is somewhere in the UK that still has all this old equipment and still editing like this day.

[@BodoqueHavelange6483]

Hey you poser kid you don't know what are you saying. You couldn't survive one mouth in a analog world

[@joehiggs100]

Ah,. the good old days! ''The man who cuts the film''.

[@PlanetImo]

Woweeeee! That was hard work compared to these days!!! I feel so lucky.

[@321riah_]

thank you ive always wondered this

[@JittFrom305]

AMAZING

[@PedroManX]

Amazing.

[@realDannyBoi111]

Very Informational

[@shawaizobaid591]

The fact that this video was prolly edited the same way amazes me

[@ranashahbaz4504]

i still used this method for editing

[@chanderprakash3159]

Can Someone Please Tell Me That How At That Time Film Countdown Leaders (Both Head & Tails) Were Prepared & Added To The Film ?

[@jinseiwaitami]

imagine someone making a fancam with these machines

[@gamer-yc6zd]

my first video editing was restoring vhs tapes and converting old vhs to dvd

[@thanhnamle6725]

I want to ask the news reporters with 16mm film cameras

[@wayneqjr]

And here I was using two VCRs one plugged into the other to make my edits back in the early 90s.

[@asphaltandtacos]

I would love to shoot on film, edit in Resolve and print back to film. Titles and transitions would be done in Resolve with effects done in camera.

[@northernplacecorporation]

The film editor seen here must've taped the film (separate picture and sound rolls of 16mm film) together on both sides.

[@garyhunt8067]

Interesting this

[@pnnytx]

Unlike Premiere, this is way more stable.

[@janvincentrodriguez257]

lol

[@asphaltandtacos]

Facts!

[@alibehrouzi761]

That was interesting

[@torpedoboy4]

This guy sounds like Al Stewart “Time Passages”

[@alvarohigino]

How they put letters in the film? Just writting in the piece of film?!

[@Mark_TDD]

Usually they would print the text onto transparent material (glass or plastic), then film it. After, it would be put into an optical printer, where the video and the text would be printed together onto one piece of film.

[@Noe-ev8ng]

I was reading a lightnovel where the main lead regressed on the 80's so I got curious how they edit a movie before digital era 😅😅😅

[@n3rdm4n36]

This is where the term Directors CUT came from 😂

[@ManjunathCV]

Audio and Video till happens today in a digital age and it's still confusing.

[@accel1231]

This was a PHYSICAL edit from hardware

[@raitshots]

👍😎💯🤙

[@ksteiger]

Why do the Brits have such a fascination with the words "bits"? Everything is bits.

[@ihateducks4500]

@@thomsboys77 yeah, couldn't they just keep calling it "British America". It just had such a nice ring to it

[@DD-fs9xt]

0:16 who else thought he had a giant nose for a second ☠️

[@kyizarthin9522]

2:35 This is so manual of cut and trim😅

[@ellis_playz4907]

Now you can you just get your "hand sized computer" and press a few buttons and have a fully edited video

[@nomad4k]

Wow. The amount of work it took them.. I open up my FCPX, drag my media in there and boom 💥!!! Infinite possibilities right there on my computer.

[@print-master]

until your computer crashes

[@nokrimchimarak1246]

thats some complicated editing software

[@arfansthename]

A telecine may look and sound sophisticated, but in reality it's just a television camera facing the lens of a run-of-the-mill film projector.

[@revemb4653]

Giving me some Black ops 1 vibes real hard now

[@gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086]

how is the film already colored?

[@arfansthename]

Color film has been around since the 50s. (I'm talking Kodak film, not Technicolor)

[@gersoneduardojimenezbarret9086]

@@arfansthename I mean.... How do they put colour to the film

[@NetvoTV]

The film was shaking while he is making it, how is that be any accurate?

[@ShaanBlog]

Very tough to edit a flim

[@josaicmosaic]

its just really weird to think that people used to just cut film and drew on it with pencils

[@RohulAmin-gu8kf]

I came here when I learnt that microprocessors were invented in 1971. My question was: How did they made films before 1971? (I know invention of microprocessor is not for film)

[@brett_fitz4569]

i think i’ll stick to premier pro

[@bobcat420]

Oh that’s what all those numbers are lol

[@zampiangel3871]

Now I use DA VINCI 18

[@wilddrum78]

Actually the guy sounds like Davy Jones from The Monkees

[@bluu6452]

the lil men behind my screen when i edit

[@45asunder1]

the bad bits....

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

the NAUGHTY bits!

[@johnjackson7045]

when i make films i like to use digital.i use digital in a different way.when i make a film the same m=amount of hardwork they did back then applies to the project im working on.i know because i visited film sets when i was younger and saw how many times they had to take retake choosed different places for the camera the cinematography.all f that took long time for a 2- 3 minute clip.and the same thing applies to my filmaking.i use digital but still have the old values

[@aliabbass8049]

Who’s here in 2023 watching this because of Oppenheimer

[@NastiMarvasti]

A lot less frame fucking (as we editors call it) back in those days. Nowadays, you have to try not to over-tweak your content.

[@JandyElijahYT]

old machine something idk name to Laptop timeline

[@johanexxxx]

Tf is the pilot saying?

[@davutsakalli]

He should have used hand gloves.

[@Ramysunray]

Me sitting here with my latest or version and complain its not fast enough f@#k me ,

[@codewarrior145]

This is the mechanical way to edit videos it's the old before computers.

[@M_Sonata]

Female narrator sounds like Florence Pugh.

[@LeatherShoes-ef1pb]

I can see why they don't do this anymore considering the ease of digital editing. That said, this method seems more..."artistic" to me. Like, Quentin Tarantino once said that when you watch movies, you're not watching motion, you're watching an *illusion* of motion created by 24 still pictures per second. So to see all those still images being literally handled and modified by human hands--as opposed to computer code being handled by software and algorithms--it just strikes me as being closer to "art."

[@parsaakbari2381]

Not informative! But voice of the narrator was rather lovely!

[@EddyGameVlogBoy]

To be honest, editing back then looked a lot more fun to do. Nowadays, it's just too easy and boring.

[@user-jt5vm3mi1w]

bs

[@asphaltandtacos]

I agree!