Film Theory: Is PENNYWISE In A Wrinkle In Time? (Stephen King Connected Universe Theory)

The Bee Movie LIED To You! ► bit.ly/2IbddRR
Pennywise's Greatest Fear ►► bit.ly/2HcVQ1S
SUBSCRIBE for More Film Theories! ► bit.ly/1dI8VBH
Theorists, let me describe a story to you - see if you can guess what it is. There are psychic kids, celestial beings, time travel, and an entity of pure evil that shape shifts. What story am I talking about? Did you guess IT by Stephen King? Or maybe A Wrinkle In Time by Madeleine L'Engle? Well, loyal Theorists, it's BOTH!! Today I'm going to tell you how Stephen King STOLE his multiverse from A Wrinkle In Time.
MORE FILM THEORIES
Is The Emoji Movie ILLEGAL? ►► bit.ly/2C900Jw
Pickle Rick ACTUALLY WORKS!► bit.ly/2F0lCFL
Moana's SECRET Identity REVEALED! ►► bit.ly/2F7bnmy
The Tide Pod Challenge - EXPOSED! ►► bit.ly/2sEhxFD
Disney LIED to You! ►► bit.ly/2C8BGaM
Zootopia's DARK Conspiracy! ► bit.ly/29RVRtW
Like the theme song and remix for this episode? Thanks to CARF! / carfmobile
SOCIAL MEDIA:
Twitter: @MatPatGT
Facebook: GameTheorists
Instagram: matpatgt

[@musicalbrittany]

The real question is: does this make pennywise a Disney princess?

[@reachforthemoon05]

Brittany Simcic I'm dying! XD

[@crikeyitseva]

PENNYWISE: THE FORGOTTEN ROYAL (Coming to theatres 2028)

[@Ben-ei2vq]

Brittany Simcic its THE NEW RAPUNZEL 2018

[@nenohuh]

Yes... ?

[@keepsmilingtoday]

???

[@ThePageTurnerPT]

Quick question MatPat. How did you even get introduced to the idea that A Wrinkle In Time was connected to IT?

[@anostar620]

Through the shower

[@aditishenai4440]

He recently did IT theory and since a wrinkle in time movie was coming he mightve read the book again and since the IT theory was in his mind, it mightve connected

[@SingingSealRiana]

If you know both the thought is kinda obvious due to the parallels

[@alfagamerpro5149]

What about the Beldam from Coraline being the same species as Pennywise!!

[@cbohnstedt4477]

I'd say maybe genus or family, not necessarily species. Feeding habits and apparent abilities are different, but I see where you're coming from.

[@alfagamerpro5149]

@@cbohnstedt4477 Oh, yes, that's a better explanation!! More like Genus Because Pennywise feeds in fear and the Beldam with love but both of them feed with feelings. 😨😨😲😲😲😂😂

[@KennyLastname]

I like that theory

[@mekifromouterspace]

Look at "the theorizer"'s channel, he has a loooooong video about coralines theories and he said this some time ago! Definitely worth checking it out

[@cordeliajackson8615]

Meki From Outer Space amazing. I love the theorizer

[@samaxion93]

"bill denbrough" *arrow pointing to stan*

[@snapshot7264]

Ni you are missing the point it is a nod to gravity falls

[@wham1984]

**Triggered**

[@Eva-px3qm]

PLEASE

[@tastydeathcaps8608]

whenever people talk about the king multiverse sometimes they leave out the dark tower or kind of leave it as an afterthought or a supportive story, which doesn’t really make sense to me because the dark tower (both the books and the actual tower in them) is the connection point between every world, including every other king book

[@ahsanashfaq4430]

Yup And it features The Crimson King(Basically IT) ,Randall Flagg(the best fking villain in the Kingverse) and the most badass protagonist in the Kingverse

[@danielsgarden9283]

I hate that fact. It’s easily one of the better King books (though there all really good) and it’s obvious it’s pivotal for the lore of his books. It makes the spirits of the overlook, the ancient being in the form of a clown somewhat explainable and yet more scary (because some believe penny wise may be the same evil as the over look and that the crimson king is that evil) because they exist in evil and villainy across the multiverse which makes it infinite and all powerful

[@cocojones7773]

I love the fact there are people who still read books, not just watch movies. 🤗

[@brainfart528]

7:53 that’s not Bill... that’s Stan...

[@sarahsvalenti]

BrainFart THANK YOU.

[@robertmerrill8918]

He did a vid on how Stan is bill

[@SteampunkAxolotl]

Whattt

[@pizzarolls6008]

I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT. thats wyatt oleff. Bill is played by jaeden lieberher

[@gavin5153]

Robert Merrill when did he make that?

[@aidenb5608]

"Bill Denbrough" arrow points at Stan Uris

[@DayRayVan]

AidenTheSloth glad im not the only one that noticed that , thought i was insane

[@kitcat4998]

i literally was about to comment that lmao

[@serenityfrye251]

Bill wasn’t even the group picture!!! it got on my nerves a little😂😂

[@monikasega1313]

AidenTheSloth "Richie Troser"

[@pokerface5160]

Ikr

[@oranji7258]

Hey matpat I have a theory for you! Are the food stunts in “Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs” actually plausible? I’ve posted this theory on you’re “Bee Movie” and “The Incredibles” videos and they’re going to be more detailed than this one. But to sum them up: Flint and the villagers pull off some impossible stunts throughout the film like using BREAD AS A BOAT last time I check bread gets soggy in a snap, grilled cheese form of not. And that based on their geographic location on the globe, creating an ice cream snow day on an island near the equator would lead to a melty soupy ice cream mess. One commenter on my theory/question also mentioned that all this food would cause destruction to the environment. I’m sure that fish aren’t too fond of Ben & Jerry’s Neapolitan ice cream entering their waters. The major builds a dam to hold the leftover food but wouldn’t it smell and how would you clean up melted ice cream? Please like so he can see this.

[@chuggaa100]

Oranji- Spec No. Done.

[@naveil4255]

What was even the point of this request? You just answered yourself.

[@Wynkopop]

This is a movie about food weather why the hell are you thinking about science?

[@neobro234]

Too long didn’t read

[@oranji7258]

Naveil like I have said, I’ve posted this question on two previous videos and that this is more of a quick breakdown of them. The question is about how/if it’s possible for any of the stunts Flint does in the movie work. I use the ice cream and grilled cheese examples as they’re the most rememberable and the ones I remembered when I first originally posted the very first time on another video. After reading replies it was also mentioned that all the excess waste could cause damage to the environment and climate so I mentioned that here. How long would it take for the island to return to its natural state, what effects would all that good have on the islanders’s bodies, how would local wildlife be effected? All these questions are why I posted

[@wratched]

"Hopefully he loses that ability when his sister hits puberty" The book has sequels you know. And spoilers, he doesn't.

[@Amokra]

wratched 😶😨👹 🙌

[@caseyoung1527]

She's already hit puberty at the time this book is set

[@awkwardoktopus9091]

"bill denburough," * pulls up picture and points to Wyatt Oleff who plays Stanly Uris* Me: What? are you drunk or somthing?

[@normal_guy1771]

funny story uhhh, wyatt actually auditioned for a roll as bill but the director decided to cast him as stan

[@eredzygone2405]

@RandomnessArLizu the grammar is correct. the spelling is incorrect.

[@lunabear1114]

@RandomnessArLizu Its a KZbin comment, I dont think grammar is needed.

[@eredzygone2405]

@RandomnessArLizu hm, you are correct. my apologies.

[@park-bw9hn]

@RandomnessArLizu so just because he missed putting in commas where they're supposed to be means he's more drunk? Lmfao you're hilarious.

[@jonmalber9576]

Didn’t IT come to eath millions of years before the events of both books?

[@gavinl4388]

None of this holds up once you add in the other books in the wrinkle in time series. It’s a Christian sifi-religious universe. The brothers of meg and Charles even went to help build the ark before the flood. The lore of wot is very tied to the Bible and God, explored with crazy Sifi lol. It’s a fun read.

[@ilovefrowning-9696]

IT came before but the turtle was there with IT before going to earth. The title is in the wrinkle in time and it’s perfect timing for both.

[@ink_the_wolfin6618]

I love how you said "IT" and not pennywise, because that is correct, IT I just a light or better known as the dead lights. That is it's true form, pennywise is just a name for the clown form. Thank you for using the true name

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Di you mean Maturin? Maturin is a god, but later after Bill defeats It he feels a greater being that is not Maturin tell him he, “did a good job, kid” from outside the universe. So you could say God does exist in It.

[@allybally3590]

When he pointed to the wrong actor I started laughing so hard. Like dude, you do mathematics, research on the dark web but you can't look up what kid plays Bill?!😂

[@elorag8956]

Cry Baby X same!! Lol Matpat! 😂😂😂

[@draydondavis3213]

Worth noting that was a mistake made by the guy they pay to edit the video and choose the graphics not by mat pat

[@richietmikew7980]

Lol I have the same reaction

[@kishiii]

LMAOMAOMAOMAO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE

[@angysilva5146]

He didn’t really point at Finn if you saw the pumpkin, he was pointing from the pumpkin to Finn and the mathematics to Eddie even tho Eddie doesn’t do math in the movie....I would think you would know that if you payed attention...he probably knew bill wasn’t in the picture and that’s why he showed a clip

[@azathoth7587]

IS PENNYWISE NESS???

[@_sarq]

pen(ness)ywise

[@masterroshi6931]

Wow

[@arionosmani5364]

+Sarc Hasamm (peness)vwise

[@zacharygilmore1075]

Azathoth No, don’t be stupid. He’s obviously Gaster.

[@chickensoup782]

Hes sans

[@the_cat_whisperer01]

“That’s exactly what BILL uses...” Points to Stan-

[@CadetGriffin]

*_Long ago, I, Aku, unleashed unspeakable evil, then one foolish samurai warrior stood up to oppose me, and when he tried to strike the last blow, I sent him into the future where my evil is law, and now he is trying to go back to the past and defeat the evil that is Aku._*

[@miaakaisjhskskjf8455]

@@CadetGriffin 👍

[@grimreaper.123-zhr]

My personal pennywise theory is that either he is the same species or the same entity as Mary Poppins.

[@Chlorogrlll]

at the begining:wtf after the video: All hail the mighty Matpat Why does this have so many likes ????

[@censored_chips]

3:50 matpat:” the tesseract “ Me: “marvel is they you?!”

[@gaunthaunt3170]

I love that Matt pointed at Wyatt and was like, OMG ITS BILL

[@jan_harald]

I'm lost in time... if anyone can spare a penny and guide me to the nearest natural wrinkle that'd be nice...

[@elainrakas3778]

SAME;-;

[@rigo3734]

jan harald same😤

[@lyndseycornelius9739]

Same :(

[@benjaminvroman5553]

Me neither what the hell

[@jess-ne4qk]

jan harald Me neither! I already tapped the notification bell.

[@percy_shiield]

"Bill Denbrough, the stuttering leader of the-" Nice try, Stanley.

[@SycoPlays]

To be fair, like every movie ends with an act of love.

[@bobberry1463]

Nicolas Stier I thought in the book they had sex

[@morssinistram5169]

bob berry yep they did raw and all and the reason why king did that was because he said he was high on crack or drunk or something

[@user-hp6jn8zj7b]

Lore Theorist He's doing some Macroverse drugs

[@thanatos9514]

“That’s a pretty unique concept. Stars that take human form and vice versa.” Is it really such a unique concept? It not only happened in the stories you mentioned, but I also remember it in The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader, and Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Titan’s Curse. Not to mention The Blue Fairy in Pinnochio.

[@thanatos9514]

Caspian’s future wife was the daughter of a Star, wasn’t she? I seem to remember Ramandu’s island. But you are right, that definitely did happen in The Last Battle.

[@toxaginda1426]

Also Stardust by Neil Gaiman.

[@thanatos9514]

Also many, many different times in Mythology. Such as Orion and the Scorpion, or Canis Major and Canis Minor.

[@zacharygilmore1075]

Thanatos Erebusson I think he meant that it was a unique concept when Steven King wrote IT. As a side note, those are some great books.

[@thanatos9514]

Zachary Gilmore Agreed, they are some of my favorites.

[@camdotcoms]

*i’m getting very comfortable with that shrugging guy*

[@sevenfold6591]

What has Matt pat been smoking I want in

[@lightpathbruh8842]

Same here

[@georgevincentcorneby4023]

I hope his "product" is availanle worldwide

[@kielwallace32]

Hi getting very comfortable with that shrugging guy

[@Essdessessesserdt]

camhasproblems maybe too comfortable ( u ❤️ him )

[@whitespider584]

12:56 , I have never heard a more beautiful voice.

[@ogmoiz]

That's it! MatPat's a couple nuts short of a fruitcake. I am NOT buying it

[@LocalMaple]

Mr.king Epic I thought so too. Not because of the theory; I thought Stephen wasn’t pronounced Steven.

[@ogmoiz]

Local Maple 1:49 - thats why you should always watch a video before commenting

[@LocalMaple]

Mr.king Epic If I didn’t watch the video, how do I know the name was spelled Stephen (with the f-sounding PH like in Stephanie) yet MatPat pronounced it St-Eve-n with a V?

[@XxmickeylavaxX]

Local Maple - In English, for whatever reason, Stephen is pronounced "Steven" 90% of the time. If it's to be pronouced "Stefen" then it's usually spelled with an f instead of a ph or it's spelled stephAn.

[@LocalMaple]

Mikayla T. So Stephen isn’t pronounced Stephen? What’s next? Saint Stephen (Stephanos in the Greek) isn’t Stephen either? Jalapeño is Djal-Ahpp-eh-no? (No joke, I met a British guy who called them that). Wednesday isn’t pronounced Wensday? Phlegm isn’t pronounced Flem? Colonal isn’t pronounced Kernel? Tooele isn’t pronounced Two-will-ah?

[@alnimri]

*_Am I the only one TRIGGERED that they had Pennywise hold a BLUE balloon the entire video?_*

[@RickyRatte]

Nimr Al Nimri well, if that triggers you, read the book.

[@kianbarber5584]

And the fact they pointed to Stan when talking about bill...

[@The-PWW]

Nimr Al Nimri thats not pennywise thats moneysmarts the funny guy

[@hellspawn21]

I know, right!?!? They could've gotten an orange one! Heck, even a rainbow one! It would've been creepier, too!!!

[@Suslent]

Nimr Al Nimri yes, yes ur not

[@TheGardo]

7:56 "Bill Denborough" You are pointing at stanley

[@Artak091]

What if I told you!!! That authors frequently steal from other authors. Original ideas are either dead or have been reinterpreted to sound different.

[@jonathonstone1]

Artak091 he would probably make a theory about it

[@thehoneyqueen1765]

Nothing is ever original. We all take inspiration from things that have taken inspiration from other things that have taken inspiration and so on.

[@SrgtBarney]

that is every idea ever. "original" was never "original" just an idea that has been established before and enough variation to create something fresh and different. it's only bad if it's just the exact same thing down to the bone and claimed as "own".

[@josephfavor7419]

Like his theories

[@wavyant7757]

du skrattar du förlorar

[@memecat9830]

The bad guy in a wrinkle in Time reminds me of the mind flayer

[@RandomAwesomeDude]

If you pause at 5:23 with the book page, if you read further down the page, you can also see Meg trying to resist the control of the Black Thing by remembering nursery rhymes like "Georgie, porgie, pudding, and pie..." Little Coincidink?

[@jplayz1464]

😵😱😵 that’s crazy!

[@procyonwave1327]

KyleRinas But you have no content.

[@charliefinnmichael4770]

"Meg gets Charles out of his catatonia state, not by kissing him cause they're brother and sister, but by her telling him how much she loves him" Me: so family not allowed to kiss each other on the forehead or on the cheek anymore??????

[@legendariness2530]

Just remember guys: Stealing from 1 author is called plagiarism, stealing from multiple is called research.

[@legendariness2530]

No technicalities needed... If it's a joke.

[@masterroshi6931]

Charlene Carreon take out the smart and you got it

[@mid-nite_drive-thru]

Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky would be proud. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f32Xp4qAl9ygp68

[@Thingy118]

You try telling that to your uni lecturer

[@sometimesidonotwanttoexist1695]

why is this so funny

[@kevinsherwood8677]

Do a Coraline theory! One of my favorite movies :). Great video by the way.

[@sorbet7216]

Gave me nightmares as a kid.

[@pizzamaster355]

Shpee ditto

[@themayor5332]

Kevin Sherwood YES YES YES

[@kevinsherwood8677]

Gave me dreams as a kid

[@mattb6646]

with thousands of books and movies in existence, basic generalized archetypes are bound to be similar.. especially considering humans seek patterns.

[@anitab.529]

I’ve read the book before I saw the movie in theaters. My aunt got me the whole series and because the movie was based on the first book I tried to at least finish the first book. I did and I LOVED it. The movie was amazing, but I was let down a little. They left out sooo many good parts. I started to read the second book but got kinda bored so I started reading a different book. I tried to go back to it but couldn’t. If you also read the book please like this comment. Matt Pat, I love you videos, they are AMAZING. Keep up the AMAZING work. If you can please respond it would mean so much to me. I’m one of your biggest fans. I wish everyone an amazing day, afternoon, evening, or/and night. Have a FANTASTIC second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year, life. (P.S. if I spelled your name wrong I’m so sorry I haven’t made a comment on your video including you name.)

[@GanonBlightfire]

I love the book too! I'm trying to compare the first book, the graphic novel and the movie before I read the rest of the books, though.

[@chronicles2613]

Hey matpat this will probably get lost in this sea of comments but I would like to inform you that humans turning into Stars is actually something very common in older fantasy books one of the most popular books right now that contains a star becoming a human and vice versa is CS Lewis's The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and another one that contains this is one of my favorite book series James A Owen's The Chronicles of the Imaginarium geographica and from what I can tell it's also in a few older folk tales from Europe based on Christian stories

[@xXSyntheticSweetsXx]

Chronicles of McBitchery Neil Gaiman’s Stardust also features a star turning into a human. It’s a good one.

[@chronicles2613]

Wayward Doe anything by Neil Gaiman is a good one and thanks for suggesting it

[@tameakagarmon1969]

watching movies all day long today

[@hi-ougidemonfang]

Honestly... I think even Disney has it too.

[@kaisski3763]

Guys, this is the best What if matpat was a conspiracy theorist! *GET ON IT*

[@ajsquad6469]

The first thing that came into my mind when he started referring power of love was Elsa and Anna Anyone else??

[@adov323]

*lol that was Stan not Bill in that picture he showed*

[@Naniduhgoat]

Ik right

[@Naniduhgoat]

Ik right

[@AliceIsSleepy]

I’m in too many fandoms to express in a username lol they are they same person, there's a theory in his channel somewhere about it

[@jaydenharris6800]

I know I noticed that too! I think the editor just messed up

[@biowbe4522]

+Yin Plays its Mat theory, he said Bill is inside Stan, but could also be the same person

[@PineappleMagician]

Its official Matpat can convince me on anything👍

[@blitzgaming9561]

Next thing he will convince you that you're adopted even if you aren't and you will believe him

[@inky5574]

He can tell me im a clone of another human who died a long time ago and i'll believe it.

[@blitzgaming9561]

@@inky5574 im pretty sure somewhere on the internet this theory was debunked 5 month's ago

[@thatonetomatoguy4210]

Pewdiepie IS T-series BUT HEY-

[@shani179]

yep

[@GoldenapplessuperMedina]

Stephan king: stop this I did not write that sh*

[@obscurerefference7954]

It’s almost like “it” can be used to short hand long descriptions and doesn’t mean it connects to pennywise

[@awesomecat42]

The thing that makes it interesting is that in both of these cases, "It" is being used as a proper noun, rather than "it" as a pronoun. (and before anyone goes "TRIGGEREDADIOSASFVSASDF" a pronoun is a word used in place of a proper noun, including I, it, you, me, etc as well as he, she, and they.)

[@patrickhall901]

I would like to point out that both books used "IT" (both letters are capitalized).

[@samanthapajala8417]

I felt it when I my teacher read it in class

[@ClockworkCryptid]

I think it's because the letters are capitalized, therefore not writing it off as a way to refer to something. Like if I had capitalized every "it" in this comment, that'd look weird, since I'm quite obviously referring to the topic at hand and not a specific thing

[@dyszquloyyu7745]

But IT is CAPITALIZED. it =/= IT

[@AubreyWafaa]

Who else notices when he pointed to “BILL” at 7:58 but it was Stanley lol “Bill” wasn’t even in the picture 😂

[@chesleythompson3742]

Miss.Waffles I saw that too

[@queendanap]

yes me

[@mgfhenrymgf2569]

Miss.Waffles i

[@mgfhenrymgf2569]

Miss.Waffles r

[@AubreyWafaa]

Mgf Henry Mgf2 lol

[@Bontigga]

I was eating Mac and cheese while watching and 6:45 was not what I was expecting

[@brandonfremer6367]

Are you mind controlled

[@Blotzwave]

7:52 That's not Bill you pointed at! That's Stanley! Bill's Not even in that picture! And everyone who's confused what that creepy looking monstet spider is at 8:03 that's what Pennywise actually looks like in our dimension.

[@Advintagemine]

Gojira Guy am I the only one who thought you sounded like you were talking about gravity falls

[@brentknight236]

Roger Johnson nope

[@denstenationbacon7144]

Gojira Guy ummm this is about a wrinkle of time of whatever it is and it's a about IT not GRAVITY FALLS

[@laurenalexander3394]

How did you find out that Pennywise looks like a spider??

[@chrysandl]

Roger Johnson I did too :/

[@zamalamahama4894]

MatPat has gone insane confirmed

[@austinpersing3132]

The FNAF games finally broke him

[@godfather99x]

Bobofett72 /FnafFan9001 didn’t matpat go insane a long time ago?

[@chadwicktaylors7543]

It wasn't really a long trip

[@Fastskull]

7:55 That's Stan, not Bill.

[@Japocholo1984]

Fastskull ikr haha

[@millie965]

How does mattpatt come up with these theories , they are so random but yet so true. I just don't understand where these ideas come from.

[@palmujoni]

That was Stan, not Bill

[@headless_headlines4921]

I was looking at the picture, and I was like "that's STANLEY URIS, NOT BILL DENBOROUGH"!!!!!!

[@notfiyfox9522]

HuskyHaZard me too

[@AVeryCasualGamerGirl]

I like the idea of using someone else’s universe. Especially if they have permission, the universe is abandoned, or original author is deceased.

[@MiaValla]

7:53 Wyatt does NOT play Bill Jaeden Lieberher does and he’s not in the picture Wyatt Oleff plays Stan

[@XMajin]

That made me mad when he said that like no it’s not ok

[@alexthepotato]

I was like.... wait what? That Wyatt?!?! Jaeden isn’t even on the screen

[@elainrakas3778]

We all make mistakes:/

[@ph1ss1ks93]

I just got so triggered but the fact he said that Bill was the leader while pointing at Stan Uris

[@limelightlitzyy3157]

IT WAS A JOKE 💀 HE SAID PENNYWISE HOLD A RED BALLON AND THEN MAKES THE BALLON BLUE ITS A JOKE LMAO

[@АлексаЦветковић-я2и]

But hey,that's just a THEORY,a Film THEORY Me:Why does this sound familiar?

[@alexandramelendez9522]

7:51 that's Stanley...

[@plankdahomie1851]

Melody SaysHey thought I was the only one

[@ottovonbisquick6996]

Melody SaysHey editors screwed up

[@allybally3590]

IKR 😂😂😂

[@kathrynm.1521]

Haha! I saw that too. I thought i was the only one. Lol

[@ladyanarchy4829]

Melody SaysHey i thought i was the only one lol

[@hazycat8466]

Ahhhhh...I see what you did there. That thing where you name the video one thing and then change the name later on to get more views. Clever Matpat.

[@Rainykel]

Alexa Travers you saw that too?

[@hazycat8466]

Yup. Nothin gets past me.

[@getshafted4106]

Alexa Travers what was it before.

[@letsgetreal6402]

21_ animal yeah..what was it?

[@projectjavelin5948]

GerArt13 it’s did Stephen King steal IT?

[@madahlime2635]

i think the best part of this video is 7:52 when matt talks about bill denbrough but points at a picture of the actor who plays stanley

[@Rawfuhhh]

He pointed at stan

[@rikkistewart9464]

Kylo Memeous Thank you! I was scrolling the comments hoping someone had said something haha.

[@alanfernandez9895]

Same😂 I was waiting for someone to say that

[@OwiverBwooth]

YEAH!!!I was like what?!?!?!?

[@raeannahoskinson2699]

Matpat: Read between the grades of four and seven! Me, at a private school: Finished the five books portaining to the space/time continuum in third grade

[@myopinionisnotyourplaygrou5834]

Wow you are so smart

[@Bubbazombie]

I want a theory about jigsaw

[@madcreepa8247]

Bubbazombie jigsaw is the adult of that guy from home alone

[@austang8556]

Agreed! I'm surprised there isn't one already tbh!!

[@Jokai.thinks]

Let me explain studios: you get a girlfriend and you get a girlfriend and you get a girlfriend everybody gets a girlfriend! Matpat: 0:34

[@alllogo]

I read the books BEFORE the movie. i have something to brag about. heh heh.

[@jacknerrin3920]

16:07 wrong. It was created by the being known as Other. The only other thing created by him was the Turtle whose name is Maturin. Those were the only things in existence until Maturin had a stomach ache and barfed up the universe.

[@ainsleychadwick8747]

A wrinkle in Time is my favorite book ever in the universe. When I saw the trailer I screamed in my head "WhY aRe MEg anD CAlvIn In MIDdlE sChOOl?!?!"

[@danielwalton5385]

Same here, it seems like they changed Meg's character more than a little too, to me she was always the epitome of awkward teenager and I really identified with her there. She just seems way too confident and self assured to be the Meg I knew and loved, I'm sure I'll probably see the movie but I don't know if it would be worth it to me to see it anywhere but at home

[@jacksonpruett3349]

are not is

[@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883]

Me: *WHY IS OPRAH IN IT???*

[@danielwalton5385]

Or Mindy for that matter

[@ainsleychadwick8747]

Jackson Pruett sorry, when I wrote it, it kind of seemed wrong but I wasn't sure

[@amgprod.55]

Aha and my classmates called me crazy. I knew they were connected

[@minniesluvly3403]

Fat Gandalf same

[@AA-do2lv]

Fat Gandalf you are Your name and your profile picture is

[@amgprod.55]

Kurihono The Reaper is what

[@AA-do2lv]

Fat Gandalf bizzare

[@akashiseijuro7984]

When I read your comment it just sounded like something Joe would say XD

[@seannotshawn3521]

Wait, one thing kind of blows a hole in this entire thing. In Stephen King's novella The Langoliers it's explained that you can't go back in time because if you do when you go back everyone is already in the future and the past is eaten by the Langoliers. The past is literally impossible to go back to because it's being constantly eaten by those balls of teeth. So where does that fit in this theory?

[@jacobbutbreathing9281]

big brain

[@Dove01s]

Reminds me of a webcomic I saw not too long ago where a guy seems to be on a dinner date and points out his date hasn't touched anything on their plate and they ask "aren't you hungry?" And the next panel pans over to show his date is a Langolier and they reply "I ate yesterday."

[@RockingScience]

hey Mat is it me or is it the music and a few facts that are making my brain believe in your theory even though i know nothing from both the movies or books i have not even seen them

[@jan_harald]

and that's the power oooof FILM THEORY see ya later

[@Adventuriseable]

Well, you have no other frame of reference so it kinda makes sense.

[@JFKLC]

It is always likr that eith his videos, he always represent his theories as truth not as theories

[@the-oe4mv]

Me to

[@canitbeapplied2500]

I have read the book, but I havent watched the movie

[@sirchrisroyal2909]

"we will be posting it in a couple hours" *gets notification almost 24 hours later* riiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhhttttt......

[@lanapowell]

Right? I was beginning to wonder if they just forgot

[@puredemon5926]

KZbin's notification system tends to suck though. Most of the time I get notifications 40 minutes to hours after they upload. *Shrugs* KZbinrs have joked about it: Hit that bell and you _might_ get notified about other videos lol Yep.

[@seanegan8150]

New channel: Book Theory. It'll be blue and on the bottom left section of the logo

[@samuteel]

Seán Michelangelo Charles Egan I’ve thought of that one too

[@vidarDJ16starkill]

And Comic Theory, with a yellow mark in the bottom right.

[@ns_6817]

I’d want to, but then it will be too much work for matpat

[@colourjumper6178]

Steph could run these channels

[@briaraujo1052]

cool idea but it could be a lot for mat

[@bocryptic7903]

Nah thats cap pennywise is sans

[@sillst600]

Dear, Film Theory. I have two theory suggestions, one is lightning mcqueen was a nazi. And the other is that Shaggy and Scooby Do are brothers and they were both birthed by one mother.

[@bigbitch4558]

GD Sillst I like your thinking kid

[@turquoisesunset5744]

Wtf

[@turquoisesunset5744]

😂😂😂

[@doukzu]

we have a genius right here

[@doukzu]

well, it was a joke after all

[@FamilyGuyClipz24]

I thought you were going to say “today we are talking Steven Hawking

[@jamesdaube6844]

Matpat don't you know that everything is a ripoff of everything.

[@WetWaterAnimations]

James Daube You’re a rip- off of me.

[@KatonVsTwoooo]

10:19 “a girl having a stutter”

[@FoxGoodmanYT]

Ty for making me feel smarter Matt ^_^

[@TheCandywho]

Fox you are a sup noob :)

[@Karma_x0]

Stop watching everything I watch XD

[@chikenuget3841]

well it's wrong soo...

[@soulrec7285]

Ok I have seen your comments in every FREAKEN video I watch, HOW???!??!!!!!??!!????!!

[@thegamingsharkyt7908]

Fox Goodman I swear I saw you in the comments of jacks firsts solo win

[@mikaylatsolkas9266]

matt- *says bill denbrough* also matt- *points to stanley uris*

[@birch_bier]

My English class actually just started reading A Wrinkle in Time recently and are going to see it in theaters next week for a field trip. How convenient that you upload a theory at the same time I'm reading the book and about to see the movie. Also, at 2:41 you say between grades 4 and 7. My school seems to be a bit late on that, seeming that we're only just reading it now, three quarters through 8th grade.

[@malikbarbrie1363]

Hey, my class is going to see that movie once we finish the book!

[@deeznueces]

same, even tho I didn't read the book at all and I'm basally just writing what matpat said.

[@shadekazoo540]

Yeah there’s probably tons of classes reading the book every year. Not much of coincidence if you think about it for more than two seconds

[@Puck07]

7:53 that’s not Bill that’s Stanley

[@erinstyles2519]

Matpats explanations actually make me understand theories

[@aidandonnelly3022]

Erin Styles you don’t even understand algebra my dude

[@erinstyles2519]

Aidan Donnelly lol wow thanks do i even know you?😂

[@untrustabl3601]

Erin Styles no but I think u don’t even no anyone else on the internet idiot

[@erinstyles2519]

untrustabl3 ok calm down i was kidding

[@aliciabates821]

My creative writing teacher taught us that writing is stealing. It's unavoidable because all ideas have already been done so all you have to do is find a way to try to make it your own or do it differently.

[@saysikerightnow3914]

8:28 We don't know it they are Alabamans...

[@meilifenfang4791]

Omg while I was reading the Wrinkle In Time and they mentioned *IT* I literally thought of IT

[@mrs.malfoy4805]

Pretzii omg same

[@Bell_Matt]

Im sure the fact the word “it” had nothing to do with that. Jeez.

[@antoniomtz59]

me too so creepy

[@Reposessor]

same

[@madisonrose6700]

A Penny in Time??????

[@joaquinrafael9409]

Hahahaahahahqhahahahahahhhaahahahahehehehehehehwhehehe

[@A_Strawberry]

OMG this would have been the perfect thumbnail!

[@dannylee6271]

Eh, its not catchy enough, doesn't go along plot wise.

[@tiffany-up2ii]

"to a girl that loves her flute a bit to much" made me cry with laughter

[@wobblewobble6442]

I want to point out that in the Avengers series there is an important object known as the Tesseract which can teleport you between space and time.

[@jonasstritzinger110]

Ivonne Franco just Space not time

[@MissCookieThief]

Technically what allows the Tesseract to be used to manipulate space is the Space stone, one of the infinity stones.

[@BNuts]

Yes, unfortunately MCU's Tesseract does not function the same way. It also takes the appearance of the Cosmic Cubes from the comics, while functioning as a containment device for an Infinity Stone. The Stones and the Infinity Gauntlet are part of a completely different set of multiverse-altering McGuffins from the Cosmic Cubes.

[@willmiester4051]

Ivonne Franco Yeah, but in the MCUs canon it's actually an infinity stone.

[@YourHostEnder]

Just Space......

[@MVBuffs]

What if the three stars represent IT’s true form, the deadlights?! In it chapter two it shows the 3 lights! Just a suggestion

[@sanjookhusband]

I doubt IT would be willing to help these kids in the movie other than eating them but I could be wrong 🤷

[@MVBuffs]

Rondaya Jean Hampton yeah I agree but it could be connected if this theory is true

[@Stegolution]

The dead lights are shown to be consuming bev in the first 2017 film. Meaning if we tried connecting them it wouldn’t be the same.

[@pendantperuke9440]

JUST A FILM SUGESSTION

[@Blue-di2vx]

In the book, IT says that the deadlights are IT's true form, If you see them, your soul would leave earth and be transported to the macroverse, lost in there.

[@mydancejournal3016]

I was so was when in the movie they didn't mention Aunt Beast at all. Aunt Beast was my favorite part of the book. Maybe MatPat should start a Book Theory.

[@duckhuntdynasty6562]

Regarding star-people, wasn't that in Narnia too? What if Narnia is in this universe too?

[@caseyoung1527]

YES I agree there's so many parallels between L'Engle and Lewis' works. I think she borrowed from him a little bc it works so well

[@Player-nu1ux]

Matt. In not sure you finished the book. Later on it turns out that IT is actually only A BRAIN and the man with red eyes is being controlled by IT

[@FallenAngel6499]

The OP NooB I remember that being the case in the movie but I think in the book we never see IT’s actual form

[@ethanr3480]

Oli Fairy oh no we do get to get to see the true form

[@MrGleeiscool]

The OP NooB it's like a million pages I can't finish it

[@coleschaefer6016]

We don’t know that. I mean, he could have just been like, “This isn’t even my final form!” then disappears or shit shit

[@00RaveRat]

Me who just read the book: hehe I understand everything and you can't stop me

[@Jay-vm2pq]

He really got me when he said hmm simaler story is simaler

[@sektorispiar2988]

Another story that features travelling between worlds (with almost no time passing on Earth while away), stars that become human, and a Darkness that can take on different forms and read & affect minds: The Chronicles of Narnia - The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (aka VDT), by C. S. Lewis. Many of the themes and elements are also present in other books in the series. (Mild Spoiler warning...) In particular, there are 2 Stars in VDT: Ramandu and his Daughter. There is also possibly a third in the form of Coriakin the magician. The darkness is represented by the Dark Island in VDT, as well as by the 'god' Tash in the book "The Last Battle", who is depicted flying across the sky as a great dark bird.

[@jordany3386]

Obvious CinemaSins references are obvious

[@ogwemman]

Jordan The Conqueror lol

[@robbieisdabest8793]

Jordan The Conqueror he should get a job there

[@adventuretimetimetangledch8081]

*DING*

[@CrypticTitan7]

Penny wise is a Disney character

[@akajesus8534]

Wow... is this even a theory he made those good ass points damn

[@iamteadle714]

All he did was point out how similar the two novels are which doesn't mean they share the same universe. That's like saying Justice League and Marvel are connected because the superheroes have special powers.

[@akajesus8534]

IamTEADLE I’m they are cuz they have fought against each other in comics right?

[@iamteadle714]

I was referring to the movies.

[@akajesus8534]

IamTEADLE ok but he made some solid points right it’s kinda a 50 50 chance...

[@pheonixdanub2680]

8:35 you sounded like flamingo 😂

[@JACKBOOT12]

HEY FILM THEORY I see a lot of channels do videos about Pennywise and they always say "IT comes from no place or world known" but the answer literally stares them in the face when they watch the movie called The Dark Tower 1. The theme park graveyard has a sign that literally has Pennywise written on it 2. The monsters from outside the universe look like a form used by Pennywise (mentioned in it 2) 3. These monsters can sense your weaknesses by getting into your head and use them against you in said movie 4. They are said to feed off of fear Would love to see you guys do an explainer on the topic Let's face it: Pennywise is a Demon from outside the universe that probably got in past a weakness in the barrier when the tower was attacked at some point moving from world to world feeding upon humans

[@elizabethdillon2162]

The only connection logistically having hard time with is that the two ITs are the same being. Its more likely it is based off of wrinkle in time but not the same IT. They don't function the same, they don't rule kingdoms in same way, the way they function seems to different

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Yeah but I /like/ to believe they are at least the same kind of evil Macroverse creatures.

[@ДаниилБабенко-х3и]

first time im not convinced at all A GIGANTIC universe of Stephen King that took in all the cliches and possible plot twists that a man can come up with has a few things in common with this super cliche kids book? Sure it will. Same parallels can be drawn between King's universe and almost any cliche fantasy novel. Example: lets take Harry Potter. Series far from cliche, yet it checks 90% of the points Matt has made here. Voldemort can be seen as shape shifting (his rebirth and change of appearance as he divides his soul) depiction of pure evil (hes evil cause he is just evil, no clear motivation), he can easily get into Harry's head (books 5-7) and is defeated by the power of love (ending of book 4) and Harry's will (final battle, you can also draw it out to be a ritual of chud if you wanted to). You can also say that Harry and Voldemort can shine (God knows how many examples). Dumbledore also used to hide his intention to sacrifice Harry and revealed it only after both of them died, you can find some vague proof of Dumbledore being a star, but i'm a lazy ass. Don't forget space and time travel in Harry Potter, which appeared since book 3; teleportation, time shifting and time wrinkling are all present. Does this all make Harry Potter a part of King's multiverse? I don't think so! I just did it of the top of my head without checking on any lore. Last time i've read the books was like 6-10 years ago. If you try you can connect literally any fictional story to King's multiverse, I can do the same with Lord of the Rings or Terry Pratchett's Flat World without stepping aside from Matt's points and even expanding the concept further. Matt, i respect you and all, but have some grain of salt when you shoot videos like that. It seems that with little to no effort anyone can convince you in anything, so turn your mighty brain back on.

[@noofzoof]

Also matpat got something wrong with the black thing. The black thing represents some form of extream communism

[@schwindelier1449]

"Series far from cliche" I agree with most of what you said but really? Are you sure about that?

[@jess-ne4qk]

Даниил Бабенко Dont forget Time Turners.

[@damianclements6321]

Thank you so much

[@cristhyan248]

Bad thing nobody is gonna read that

[@ryan.refrigerator]

My favorite nursery rhyme is 🎃 And my favorite part of the Gettysburg Adress is (4*20)+7

[@elijahmiles9368]

BrownRiceRyan that math refers to the Gettysburg Address where Lincoln says "four score and seven years ago" which is 87 years ago (a score is 20 years.) 4 times 20 is 80 plus 7 is 87

[@geminijones3414]

I heard Todash and how it’s the void-ish space between universes and thought of Stranger Things, the void. The space between two locations where monsters dwell-possibly. Just a thought, though.

[@BaldingClamydia]

Stephen King also called it the macrocosm. In Stephen King's universe there are many worlds, set up like a wagon wheel, in the middle of these worlds is the Dark Tower, which is a thing holding them all together. The space outside of all this is the Todash space. It's not that S.K. used the other books concepts, so much that they're both Lovecraftian. Of course everyone is inspired by Lovecraft at some point 😊

[@sadclownschool9358]

Matpat: points to Stan Also Matpat: says Bill