Brad Pitt Discovers Jonah Hill's Baseball Theory | MONEYBALL

[@billykorando]

Funny part of this scene, watching in 2024, is how a “star” baseball player’s salary is $7 million a year.

[@thatstheway2429]

Hahaha I had the same thought. It’s 5th OF money nowadays.

[@1bcordell]

15 years for $765 million is absolutely ridiculous. Contracts will only go up from here. Who will be the first to get the billion-dollar contract? No player is worth that much money.

[@poodypooroo]

I mean that's really still the case for the A's. I believe they're still under 50 million for yearly player salaries. Even Billy Beane can't keep up anymore with that owner's salary. That and everyone is now using his ideas but with a hell of a lot more money behind them.

[@samclemmons5373]

I thought the funny part was that it’s all in Italian.

[@easythrees2943]

Also, Damon went on to win two rings after leaving Oakland. The A's, on the other hand, have zero rings since 1989. Maybe teams should buy players...

[@Devineservent17]

Jonah hill is so great in this role. Maybe my favorite of his. Not just a comedy actor dude has depth

[@justanotherday36556]

never liked J Hill, he's a pompous ahole.. despite any depth he may posess.

[@nostradamus7648]

Wolf of Wall Street was his best.

[@MrErizid]

The tension between Beane and the Head Scout was manufactured for the movie. In real life, the A's head of scouting was 100% on board with what Beane was trying to do. He only left the team because the Rangers gave him an epic offer.

[@gunman462]

And Lieutenant Dyke, Captain Sobel weren't as incompetent as portrayed in band of brothers. One might think hollywood would have a tiny bit of integrity when portraying real people. Good thing the beat is dead.

[@aaronstark5060]

Yeah, same with Art Howe. I understand that creative liberties are always taken when adapting a real life story, but it’s crossing a line when you unfairly make people look like antagonistic jerks when they weren’t.

[@sesleri]

@@gunman462 Both of your examples are based on novels, not hollywood lol. & Band of Brothers story is the view of the real winters.

[@gunman462]

@@sesleri Lieutenant Dyke was portrayed much worse than he actually was same with Sobel, if the great Major Winters portrayed them exactly this way then he was wrong. Most likely, Winters testimony was altered for a better story.

[@gunman462]

@@sesleri I bet you watch CNN and MSNBC and think it's news too

[@MaliYojez]

I’ve never understood Mark was happy to let Pete go, considering how much Mark respected Pete’s opinion.

[@petepyeatt6909]

Very intense scene. Peter could have gotten an attitude with Billy. Another staffer could have asked Billy to leave. Instead, a great relationship was born.

[@liamsynthhead]

Very intense?

[@edwardhumphries5566]

That would be true if Peter Brand was a real person. However, he was bothering more than an assimilation or conglomerate of several people Beane hired. He didn't exist in real life.

[@petepyeatt6909]

@ It’s a movie, Edward. A lot of the people, and events, you saw in Moneyball didn’t exist.

[@Brian-uy2tj]

I'm not a baseball fan at all but "Money Ball" is a great movie about the love of the game and more.

[@LanguageIsAMusic]

Interesting thing about analysis is that if there's any bias from the analyst, they suck at their job. This scene is a powerful example of that. Don't be biased for the player so much so that it blinds you to their plays. The plays are the data, and data never lies.

[@chex313]

Maybe in Baseball. In Football the numbers often do not mean a thing.

[@wyluli-dt9wv]

Data lies all the damn time. 100% of people who drink water die. The data suggests that water is bad for us. Lie! We actually need it to live.

[@LanguageIsAMusic]

@@chex313 Hmmm. Okay, you've piqued my interest here. Can you explain more? How do you analyze the stats in football then - like what are the unbiased anchors in the data? Genuinely curious about this..

[@bobby9192]

@@chex313this doesn’t make sense. Can you expand

[@kodiak64]

Could you make the volume a little lower, it's just so deafening.

[@xploration1437]

W H A T ? !

[@Anthony-un4yz]

@@xploration1437 🤣

[@ilearnjapanese]

I think one thing needs to be considered as well to consider if a player is worth the package they are receiving from a business perspective. Let’s be real the no 1 goal of these teams is not to win, it is too make money. Winning is part of it but not all and sometimes winning matches up quite nicely with making money. See Ohtani as an example

[@brandocalrissian3294]

The dodgers win and make money. Best of both.

[@brianbaber1179]

Winning brings fans, which brings money

[@darylfoster7944]

Ohtani generated an insane amount of merch revenue, so his contract was probably worth it.

[@williamosgood3565]

In the end, professional sports is entertainment, like a dancing bear.

[@davidedutremblay5050]

I love how the music “creeps” into many scenes in this movie. Awesome foreshadowing

[@connorfinnerty1366]

What's funny is that Johnny Damon actually was worth it and performed way above contract expectation for the Red Sox

[@kylethekidable]

Which is a great example of what the A's did trying to moneyball the league didnt really pan out. With statistics and a big enough pool of data you can analyze your way to accuracy a significant amount of time on paper, but in life there are thousands and thousands of variables that can blow up that data

[@AB-nk5wv]

Seriously, they trashed Damon yet he was an extremely valuable player whether you want to use the eye test or analytically.

[@ydkwil]

​@@kylethekidablewdym "didn't pan out"? Advanced sabermetrics are still a massive component for prospect rating in smaller teams. Nonfactors don't prove a heuristical method wrong when the method knowingly forgoes those externalities and still accomplishes what it sets out to do.

[@sonnypopp]

@@AB-nk5wv Damon then went on and flourished ever more with the Yanks!

[@fivefifteen7957]

@@ydkwilhe says it didn’t pan out then proceeds to watch rest of movie as A’s go on winning streak and change the game so much so they make a movie about it. Some people are so oblivious.

[@Joshisgood2]

I didn’t realize they were playing themselves in this movie! This kind of makes me want to see this more !! 😭😭😭

[@ryandeffley7652]

I'd love to hear him say how much Juan Soto is really worth because it sure is hell isn't 762 million for the most expensive contract ever.

[@Parallacks]

Based on the current price for wins/runs, I'm pretty sure he actually is. But there are bigger questions that we can ask about money and sports and the role it has in our lives and how to value that as a society. I don't think anyone cares though tbh

[@michaelvincent7115]

@@Parallacks if you didn't have to get 26 other guys on the roster sure.

[@uncleroysmusic]

wow. imagine if you actually knew how to get the audio up where it should be.

[@1204murph]

They lost their 3 best players. They had one of the lowest salary caps in the MLB. They had a coach who was fighting them half the season. Even with that in mind, there were people who were waiting to say I told you so when they lost in the playoffs. The fact that they got to the playoffs is a miracle! I love this movie for the fact that no matter what impossible odds you overcome there will always be haters telling you that you are not good enough. They proved that they were!

[@davisd3928]

This is hands down Jonah Hill's best movie

[@RJLNetwork]

7 million a year for Johnny Damon in 2002. I'm a Mets fan and we just signed Juan Soto for 760 milllion plus a 75 million signing bonus in 2024! As a Mets fan, I'm happy I got him. As a human being, that is just 100 percent INSANITY! He better be the next Willie Mays or something and stay healthy and as a realist, I don't see that happening. LFGM but UGHHHH!!! 🙄

[@therealthreadkilla]

sports stars salaries are good indication of the REAL level of inflation.

[@emergensiexit]

@@therealthreadkilla Juan Soto got signed into a 15 year long contract tho thats also important

[@MartinJefferies-j1d]

What a rip off. That guy will not live up to expectations; he is laughing all the way to the bank.

[@xJohnny_Ax]

⁠@@MartinJefferies-j1das a Nationals fan I can tell you he’s already meet expectations. He showed up when it matters most in the playoffs and World Series for both the Nats and Yankees.

[@xJohnny_Ax]

I really hate that he signed with y’all, as a Nationals fan. Rooting against him will be tough because our 2019 World Series run wouldn’t have been possible without him

[@chrisbrown6952]

Wild that this is just Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill talking baseball. Who knew.

[@matthewcute9538]

1:23 does anyone else find it extremely unrealistic that a team would allow a rival GM to walk around unaccompanied in the teams office and to speak to staff members? There is confidential information all over! Fake.

[@dominicsale5549]

Absolutely. All of the information on the employee’s desks, the computer screens and even in their conversations on the phone and amongst themselves is proprietary and confidential. So there is no way any employee of another club let alone a GM would be allowed in their offices. This is another example of dramatization. I agree a very effective scene but one of several in the movie that would never happen in real life.

[@tomoconnor3580]

Always wanted to see the full Athletics draft board in Money Ball. Anyone know where to see it?

[@davidmatthews1710]

Pete. You're a good egg.......... great line!

[@jimringomartin]

May be top 10 greatest scene in cinema history. Brad Pitt is WAY under rated as an actor.🎉

[@Rose-B612]

did you watch this movie and no other movie?

[@hbguitar]

Jonah is f’ing brilliant.

[@SaltySouthTexan]

To think a guy like Damon was making 7.5 million a year and Juan Soto just signed for about 800 Million or 80 million a year!

[@hfield07]

It's like 30 less a year than that, it's a 15 year contract

[@wgarlin688]

Every time I see one of these clips I kick myself again for waiting so long to watch this movie.

[@nostradamus7648]

Damn it, now I have to watch Moneyball again. 😂

[@jeepersmcgee3466]

yo what is the outro song??

[@cani006]

Great acting! Jonah hill and brad are legend in this movie.

[@daniellourie1978]

brilliant acting

[@xploration1437]

LoL

[@dnakatomiuk]

Ill have to watch this film, i like films like this Draft Day is a good film personally

[@jaybdub77]

Yeah right, like was really going follow him after that intense encounter.

[@evanm7236]

Wonder what he’d think of how much Soto is going to be paid lol

[@BlacknWhiteBadger88]

To be honest…he might actually say he is well worth the investment and more. Lol Soto is literally everything (in the context of the film) that Brad’s Billy Beane and Jonah’s Peter Brand want….he gets on base. Lol. and not just by a little bit either, Soto is by far the best at getting on base in today’s game (he has a .421 career OBP, which puts him in the top 20 ALL TIME), he doesn’t strikeout alot either, and of course hits for power. He single handedly changed the Yankees terrible offense from 2023 and helped lead them to a World Series one year after said terrible 2023 season. Brand would be like, “Anyone that didn’t get Soto and hand him a blank check to write whatever total he wanted may have already lost the season”. 😅

[@AB-nk5wv]

This scene made no sense because in this movie, Mark Shapiro relies heavily on Peter Brand then allows a rival GM to just hang with him?

[@aleksandyr6325]

Brad Pitt discovers Jonah Hills body

[@everObvious]

Jonah’s performance is mesmerizing.

[@mashort07]

Notice he said nothing about Damon’s arm. 😂

[@lokesh2608]

Who are you. What do you do. What do you do. Who's nephew are you. What happened in the there. Why did Mark listen to you. Why do you like Garcia. Why.

[@robjob9052]

watched this movie more times than most and I still struggle to pinpoint exactly what it is about, 'coz it ain't baseball.

[@king812345678]

It's about what happens when you combine baseball with an economics degree from Yale

[@robjob9052]

@@king812345678 I think it has a deeper significance, it's a moment of epiphany revealed in slow motion, and the true story aspect is vital to the movies impact.

[@Bingbangboompowwham]

Forgot the characters’ names?

[@kennethchia4194]

A's GM Billy Beane and Peter Brand, who is not actually a real person but a composite character

[@Bingbangboompowwham]

@ thanks, I know!

[@kole081]

" You are funny Pete " Funny how ? Do i amuse you ?

[@LIBREPUB]

RIP OAKLAND A’S 😢

[@jeffyboi6969]

hes like who the fuck are you lmao

[@PeerWorker]

Shapiro on two...

[@deplorablemike3349]

I can’t watch the regular season it’s too frustrating watching your team win 5 in a row then go right out and lose the next 5 in a row. I’ll watch the playoffs if an interesting dynamic happens but the best team in that sport only wins maybe 60% of their games. In school that would be a D grade. Compare that to basketball or football where the best team wins 80 to 90% of their games

[@yeabuddy6070]

This is when baseball went to shit. Major league baseball was more than stats back in the day.

[@alaskaguyd963]

Baseball has always been about stats. They just value different stats today.

[@liljoe31]

jonah hill invented sabremetrics? thanks for ruining baseball, jonah

[@jeffcmo1957]

Great movie

[@Firebrand55]

Is this anything to do with Schrodinger's Cat?

[@counterflow5719]

😅

[@nujabraska]

no

[@tannermclaughlin5001]

Yes

[@lordchess96]

questo discorso se lo applicate anche per il calcio si ottiene un quadro chiaro della situazione calcistica in Italia

[@kentgrady9226]

I migliori allenatori non cercano i migliori giocatori. Cercano i giocatori giusti. Tutti vogliono il prossimo Messi. Dovrebbero volere il prossimo Barcellona.

[@lordchess96]

Appunto, se si guarda l'ultimo mondiale ed europeo , con questo discorso se si applica per il calcio italiano, dovrebbe far preoccupare molto

[@anamericanman]

$7.5M/year? When was this again, 1983?

[@CraigP-n2h]

Baseball is a unfair sport. I love baseball but don't follow it anymore for the last five years. Teams are no longer winning championships, they are buying them. Thanks but no thanks. Go Brewers but thanks but no thanks.

[@darylfoster7944]

The Tribe made it to the league championship with a tiny payroll, so it's still possible.

[@thisguy8106]

"They're buying them".. Well. For one.. They've always bought them. That isn't new. The Yankees and Dodgers have been buying them forever. 2.. And yet, more teams in the past decade that have won have been "small payroll" teams more than they were (by comparison)..

[@seanlucero9506]

They portray him as some fat guy that probably never even played baseball. In real life he went Harvard (not Yale) where he played college baseball and football.

[@TheThejatsman]

Interesting, if cast today though she would be black

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

everything is economics. the world runs on economics.

[@counterflow5719]

That's current thinking. Also current: complete failure and bad analysis of how to operate in this world. So maybe economics is a false hope.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

That's a rather gross oversimplification. Fact is, economics aren't as pervasive or helpful as business majors want you to think.

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

@@cousinpatsey2471 Shows that you have a very poor understanding of economics. Economics is about all transactions and relationships between people, both big and small, Most do not involve money or business.

[@ErbBetaPatched]

@@jeffreyrichard2575both wrong. Economics is about the allocation of scarce resources. So long as there is a scarcity of something, there is an economy that manages where and how resources get around.

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

@@ErbBetaPatched Scarcity is a given. There are limitations to everything. And only a Marxist thinks that resources are "allocated ". The possession of things is earned then bartered for. Only in a socialist/communist system are resources "allocated". And that is why they fail. In a free market economy people manage themselves and make choices about their own resources. That is what drives the market and the economy - consumer demand. Actually know something before you correct others

[@markmed9091]

Biblical Johnny Damon … Looked like Jesus , threw like Mary and as loyal as Judas .

[@clintcole5743]

you realize that Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill were acting right?

[@EmperorBeef]

Getting kinda annoyed with movie clips titled with the names of the actors and not the characters

[@bwing411]

Literally can’t hear it

[@M3LTUP]

The A's are one of the worst teams in baseball. Not sure exactly why Hollywood made a movie about a "strategy" that doesnt even work.

[@THGRene]

His real name is Paul DePodesta. One of the worst things thay ever happened to the Dodgers

[@jonnies]

And, nowadays, he’s one of the worst things to happen to the Cleveland Browns.

[@darylfoster7944]

@@jonnies you beat me to it

[@giosy0072]

È ironico, che Jonah Hill abbia collaborato sia con Leonardo DiCaprio che con Brad Pitt, visto che quest'ultimi, poi, saranno insieme nel 2019.

[@francesconinivaggi7825]

Ma che cazzo di curiositá è?😂😂

[@andreapanzw7650]

Ma che è? Na supercazzola?

[@chadwolf5596]

Si

[@arihia45]

a movie not based on reality. Nothing at all was mentioned about the A's great pitching that era, this was the main component for their streak and not their hitting.

[@pedrosarti9468]

You Pink Floyd audio system to hear this thing. HF.

[@ryanmussell739]

As a blue jays fan I love this move. It shows how stupid Shapiro is. He has ruined this franchise.

[@nistassist4781]

Audio

[@Chef-vg4pu]

Funny enough to be a millionaire

[@REB4444]

Analytics is just ANOTHER tool in your talent evaluation tool box, but it doesn't replace the eye test from an experienced baseball person & that's why Moneyball has never truly succeeded. Players aren't a commodity. The greatest players have intangibles that data can't captured in data.

[@behm200707]

You should watch the movie MONEYBALL

[@darylfoster7944]

Except Oakland couldn't afford the greatest players.

[@sjj668]

Except every team uses analytics now.

[@royhoequist8846]

Moneyball or, How Not To Get To A World Series.

[@richardmiddleton4634]

It must be me, but every time I see Jonah Hill I get annoyed. There's just something about that guy that puts me off.

[@Soldier4USA2005]

Possibly the tone of his voice, as in the frequency and decibels. How his voice actually sounds. Also could be his film record. Mostly doing comedies and bad comedies leaves a really bad taste in your mouth for the actors....in my opinion and experience.

[@georgedanilov8898]

That’s as stupid of a title as it gets Brad Pitt didn’t discover anything about Jona Hill They both got paid to read the script and act it out Their characters, on the other hand ,,

[@Bryan-b1r2i]

Do they think it's a documentary 😂

[@imsnowedn]

Pitt plays himself. An executive who just looks good snd dresses nice and can read text from a pieve of paper. Im sure the real Money Ball Exec waa teying to understand how to save money on players. Brad could not play a man trting to remake an organization so he played the looker in the suit. Moneyball is over abd teams are again all overpaying on players using streaming ad media money.

[@darylfoster7944]

Moneyball isn't over for the small market teams.

[@merickful]

Conveniently using a video with Brad in it to prove your opinion. How could you fail when all of the universe revolves around you?

[@imsnowedn]

@merickful yo sure get triggered when someone is right. Better get back on those meds.

[@swainscheps]

When does he actually offer his baseball theory? Other than GM’s doing it wrong, and Damon isn’t worth $7.5m. This scene is a good metaphor for my frustration with the film. Great actors working with a script that was an inch deep.

[@dannytallmage2971]

That’s the entire point of the movie. I’m not saying this is the corrective perspective but as presented in the movie sabermetrics (the theory Brandt is espousing) is snake oil. The salient fact to the movie is Beane starts out the movie as a GM on a team that can’t win a title who is frustrated by his owners stinginess and ends the film an equity partner in the same team that can’t win but who is less bothered by the owner’s stinginess because now he’s an owner too. What Brandt believes is immaterial for Beane as portrayed in this movie it’s just a grift he can use as a negotiating tactic with ownership.

[@LassaizFaire]

Too many urkels

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

Old dumb guy comment, no doubt 😅

[@maulrat588]

Use this scene to show how the interaction between an alpha and beta male goes along.

[@dannytallmage2971]

Ok but in real life Podesta is more alpha than Beane.

[@JimmyBmusic1]

I said it before and I’ll say it again. Brad Pitt cannot act he simply cannot act.

[@roseymalino9855]

To be fair, he's really not paid to act.

[@bradbilkingtonsonmon3617]

Let’s shit on Damon by Hollywood “actors” 😂😂😂😂😂 betas

[@Dan-c9o]

You missed the point of the scene. He wasn't shitting on Damon, he is shitting on the management who is overpaying players versus their "worth"

[@bradbilkingtonsonmon3617]

@ I didn’t miss the point my guy. I’m in scouting. Yeah, they shit on Damon. True story’s means it’s true. A man that took a deal NOBODY would of passed up and he wasn’t lazy or didn’t care about the game. What a bunch of Hollywood douchers

[@TheSmokingDen]

He isn't shitting on Damon, he's shitting on the idea of paying 7.5 million a year for a player.

[@merickful]

Let's use poor sentence structure to confuse and mislead.

[@bradbilkingtonsonmon3617]

@ I’m an English major. Typing on social doesn’t need a grammar police d bag

[@gregmartin1757]

Damon helped the redsox win their first world series in 86 yrs so he was worth it to Boston.

[@Mark-qg8hm]

Yeah, that trade for Damon was really stupid of Boston, sure bit them in the ass, didn't it?

[@darylfoster7944]

Fun fact, Damon never struck out 100 times in a season.