Final Fantasy 16 - Phoenix vs Ifrit Eikon Boss Fight (4K)

[@RizoftheDead]

The way Archduke Rosfield is murdered in this scene really caught me off guard and hit hard. I assumed he was going to die, but he doesn't go down in a blaze of glory or anything, just unceremoniously beheaded while he was distracted, trying to make sure his son lived... it's brutal and poignant.

[@FunkyTurkeyRabbit6135]

I was expecting maybe him holding back soldiers and then stabbed in the back by the knight commander. I was not expecting a beheading. Kinda strengthen the point that this is a full on dark mature story

[@y.matocinos8448]

It makes sense given the context and setting. There's no sort of dragged-out death or torture that's being made here. No sort of unruly beatings. Just a swift, clean decapitation of the Archduke, since it's just part of the invaders' job.

[@alt7826]

Is he beheaded ? I though he was just stabbed ? Well same for him anyway

[@AO-qj2zu]

@@alt7826 yea look at the way his body was facing after that sword was swung 0:53, then look at how the head was facing Joshua. They even censored out the rest of his body.

[@braidena1633]

@@AO-qj2zu i completely did not notice this even tho watching now, yeah it's pretty obvious.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

Clive's voice-acting during Ifrit's beatdown is so raw and visceral that it's chilling. It legitimately sounds like you're listening to someone watching a loved one being brutally murdered in front of them. It feels real. This game is gonna be a masterpiece.

[@Pine_Time]

Funny story, I just found out through the Kinda Funny interviews that the actor for Clive having such raw acting here is because he was actually greiving for his father, who passed away during the recording of this game

[@ajflink]

​@@Pine_TimeThat makes this moment darker on a much more real level. I both love it and feel sincerely bad for also loving it.

[@anthonyalvarez2037]

Glad to see the guy at least nominated at the game awards

[@Muteki_REN]

He died in such a god afully brutal way, man just the sound of ifrits blows....

[@g.v.m7935]

Yeah this felt terrible, even my girlfriend was shocked sitting next to me watching.

[@firework1929]

The way Clive says "I'll fu#$% kill you" was so charged with rage, pain, and devastation... I telling you this is going to be THE Final fantasy !!!!

[@WanderingNerd21]

I felt the despair in his voice when I heard that.....😔

[@ladiesman2138]

He only said "I'll kill you" but yea turning his rage, pain, and devastation into fighting what he thinks is just a monster icon is felt

[@alexmercer7722]

​@@ladiesman2138he did say the f word tho

[@ladiesman2138]

​@@alexmercer7722Can nobody read subtitles

[@alexmercer7722]

@@ladiesman2138 13:26 bro 💀

[@SonofOrion42]

I was left in utter awe throughout this entire sequence. The visuals, the intensity, the insane cinematography, the emotion, the _MUSIC..._ it gave me chills. A game hasn't done that to me in a very, very long time.

[@aerieleah533]

Soken do be like that. God I'm grateful that the ff14 crew is getting love.

[@marishiten5944]

This game is trash. What are you talking about?

[@seeNoEvilhearNoEvil_]

@@marishiten5944 He told you in great detail what he's talking about. He was left in utter awe throughout this entire sequence. The visuals, the intensity, the insane cinematography, the emotion, the MUSIC... it gave him chills. A game hasn't done that to him in a very, very long time. Can you comprehend what he said? It's so insane to me how people can't appreciate the effort which is visible in this whole sequence despite whatever personal feelings they might have about something

[@JohnDoe-oh1qr]

There is something so sad and chilling about Joshua's voice lines in this fight. Hearing him scream to get away or he'll kill them just feels like a panicked child trying to scare off their attacker 😮

[@omega5159]

After watching the trailer: ok looks like a pretty standard revenge plot After playing the demo: ……..dear lord

[@patrickstrahm05]

Yeah, I just got done playing the demo last night for PC. Don't really understand why this game is 30$ on PS5 right now....

[@christbenitez8797]

What? It's only 30$? Is it on sale or regular price?​@@patrickstrahm05 if this was Nintendo, the price will forever stay at 69.99$ lmao

[@krimsonlizzard]

I tried the Demo last night, once it was done I bought the full game. Im Hooked

[@christbenitez8797]

@@patrickstrahm05 it's because square enix messed up some of their games FF16 is the sole exception that I know since this game wasn't infected by DEI but rather inspired by game of thrones

[@dominicsawicki6943]

I know it's on-rails but DAMN. The spectacle here is unmatched. This feels next gen in presentation, all the destruction, particles, the sheer detail on the Eikon models. This is impressive.

[@Hello-fd7tt]

I love how you can see Joshua in Phoenix form really transition from “I don’t wanna fight this is scary” to “I will rip you limb from limb” at 4:59. Dam this is good.

[@ursocghanir7120]

THIS

[@ursocghanir7120]

for me this happened at exactly 6:39

[@quannguyenle9775]

yep, at the start he just a little boy, scare for his life, trauma as heck after witness his father fate, after that the pheonix take over and he fight for real

[@lisaparker271]

This eikon of fire theme is INSANE! It is ridiculously EPIC!

[@LonganoCantCant]

That’s Masayoshi Soken for you. We’ve been praising for his work in FF14 for ages.

[@FewNewReasonss]

Eh boring, sounds just like everything else.

[@andrewramirez3998]

@@FewNewReasonssnah it’s amazing

[@abrahammartinez3603]

So there's a life after Nobuo Uematsu hahah. Yeah, it's so damn epic that I can't even describe the feeling. Moreover, the background given to us prior to this fight makes it even more meaningful.

[@kousukefujisaka2571]

Pokemon's Dynamax raid is boring compared to Final fantasy xvi's Eikon battle The B.O.W of the BIOHAZARD series cannot be controlled in the first place. In this Eikon battle Anyone who gives a user score of 0 is an idiot. So I can only give 10 points But in my mind I see ℵ₂(=2^ℵ₁) pts. ℵ₀ = number of natural numbers ℵ₁ = number of real numbers ℵ₂ = number of hyperreal numbers

[@magicalhermitcrab5912]

I haven't felt my stomach drop like this since Joel's daughter's death in TLOU1. There's something inherently so awful about a child's death being depicted (almost) entirely on-screen like this, I guess? And Clive's voice acting at the end is some of the best I've heard in a while, as much as it really DOESN'T help. I need a PS5.

[@Wifitears450]

Fyi Ben Starr (Clive) father passed on during the making of this game, so it shows his emotions :(

[@totozhu4543]

Even if the brother turned into a magical fire bird, I think the most terrible part was not the depiction, but the brother's last words, begging and screaming for his older brother to help, and clive being unable to do anything but watch and scream as his brother is torn apart

[@Pridefallen975]

Clive couldn't do anything though he could have at least tried to attack the ifrit

[@Eriqzzzz]

@@Pridefallen975 He probably couldn't even do that. right before he had that headache and then ifrit appeared.

[@Pridefallen975]

@@Eriqzzzz I don't understand the lore of the game are the espers enslaved against their will by humans?

[@ursocghanir7120]

32 year old man attempt 42 of watching this scene and not crying like a child Attempt 42 of failing Joshua is just so brave it kills me

[@supersoupy4709]

its the music at 8:18 that just gets me every god damn time

[@aimalpahrand1607]

Ok buddy

[@blacky8987]

i like how joshua a lil kid like what? 10 years is fighting like a man you can see he is scared yet he comand respect

[@xCmOn3yx777]

Joshua really was such a beautiful character; fell in love with him the second i saw him

[@marishiten5944]

LOL No.

[@nh-wq6sw]

INSANELY well-done opening act. Good god its like watching an episode of game of thrones. 30 hours in and this is still one of the best cut scenes. bravo!

[@MenrvaS]

Just finished the demo. The beatdown was just brutal........ as if it was personal. Edit : Just realized one thing. Iirc In FF tradition, we have one summon for each type of elemental damage. Except for one element, Fire. This is because the main purposes of Phoenix and Ifrit are different. It might be Rebirth (cycle) vs Destruction (start anew) kind of thing between these two.

[@eastbow6053]

maybe it was, the world turn to shit and only a handful crystals exist that are guarded by a certain number of eikons while no other eikons exist or allowed to exist maybe there was a civil war among the eikons and it caused the crystals to malfunction and instead of giving life they suck it and the eikons that won became confused and instead of destroying the crystals they guarded them an eikon such as ifrit that was locked into limbo for centuries could be seriously mad

[@TheEbonyWarrior]

It was some Evangelion tier shit. Was it the Eikon itself or a raged out Clive?

[@masonthepotato5971]

@@TheEbonyWarrior definitely not Clive considering he was begging the Eikon to stop the entire time

[@idkmehboi1972]

This is the best ifrit ever

[@MenrvaS]

​@@masonthepotato5971 "My father was taken before his time" -Elwin What if it wasn't......? and he was the reason why Clive got rejected by the Phoenix? That was a wild guess.

[@fatgoose0016]

9:53-10:41 gives me chills. The music, the voice acting, the animations, everything is perfect.

[@dmcdantevz]

Its gaming 🚬

[@loganthevillager9176]

It’s no wonder TGA awarded Best Score and Music to FF16 last year.

[@lisaparker271]

5:15 is when the epic soundtrack starts. You are welcome.

[@shiroutheherotraceon3313]

4:20 Rest in Peace Murdoch. You were a good commander.

[@magicalhermitcrab5912]

"Blaze it", they said. But at what cost?

[@espio30]

Rip but that was badass

[@aykan5621]

What about Wade? He is still alive??

[@chotho4718]

@@aykan5621 Everyone was dead but Clive I thin.

[@dargons5145]

@@aykan5621 Wade got torched the moment Joshua transformed.

[@MikkiZHskDK]

how can a game have a scene and a moment in the very beginning of the actual game that rivals most end game cinematics ? this is just the beginning, the music, the feelings thats pulling in your heartstrings, everything here just after 2 hours of a DEMO of the first levels is making me care more for these characters than dozens of games after i reach the climax of the stories? :O

[@leocreuu3254]

The fact they added his voice trough out reminding you that’s your little brother and he’s aware of everything that’s going on then fighting the suspicion that your the monster shit was heart wrenching

[@ProjectGamerYT]

This was such an utterly shocking but visually amazing and gripping moment. I can't wait for the full game, extremely impressed

[@josephsnyder6401]

Yoshida and Soken never fail to make me excited, both in 14 and in this, the next 10 days will take forever

[@TheLoneGamr]

Ironic that Clive transformed because he wanted to calm down his brother but Joshua ended up being more in control. It is weird that the vision is 3rd person during the moment of Ifrit is killing Phoenix. Probably to symbolize that Clive is not in control or is someone else controlling Ifrit? Edit: Only a minor complaint. Not a fan of winning in gameplay and losing in cutscenes. After that epic fight how easily Ifrit took down Phoenix was kind confusing. Unless it was because Joshua thought Ifrit was defeated and it was safe. So he let his guard down.

[@ProjectGamerYT]

Yeah that was interesting, you can see Joshua really starts to gain control of the Eikon quite quickly

[@alexndrtrash]

Plus from clives pov of the finery figure transforming. Wondering if it's even Clive and he just gains ifrits powers later? Ngl this part of the story had me so confused

[@lincolnprestes7617]

Seems more like he was possessed by something. This is supported by the demo

[@salmon3669minecraft]

@@alexndrtrasht seems to be intentionally left vague. Honestly I thought Clive was looking through Torgal’s eyes during that sequence where Ifrit is mauling Phoenix.

[@samil8778]

@@alexndrtrash yeah it’s definitely something they meant to make more clear in the actual game I’m sure

[@JingRoku]

I legit cried at Joshua's transformation. Poor lad. That wasn't fair. Great great Great characters and narration so far. Very engaging And Gorgeous! I'm just not completely sold yet on the combat system. I hope it'll have more depth later on.

[@davidvazquez5657]

True, this game will be a masterpiece, I hope that. I’m sooooo excited…..

[@Lightlord56]

You just needs to see or play the other part of the demo to see if you like the full combat system

[@vallisroyeaux4979]

There is a bit more to explore with the Eikonic Challenge, but the skill trees seem to have a bit more depth to em

[@jasonsmarr3621]

There is another part of the demo and the combat gets so much better.

[@KajuKajuKatli]

I don’t know about you but that power move at 11:18 is about as visually haunting and beautiful as it can get. Imagine being there in person, and all you see is a giant fire bird in the sky shooting torpedoes at you

[@lundylow]

Bearing in mind the game mechanics, Ifrit mauling Joshua just felt... obscenely unfair. "But we beat him! With the health bar and everything!" But that really puts you in the same headspace as Clive. It's not just sudden and horrible, it feels... wrong.

[@reconstructionmanifest7349]

Not "just saying this". Not kidding. This is probably, for me, one of the best things I have ever played. The feeling I had in the Eikon fight and even before it in the cut scene was unlike anything I can recall. I cant wait to finish this game

[@RulerX.]

This whole game already had me hooked so far but this part just added to it. This game is going to be amazing.

[@SkyChady]

This was upsetting to watch. Two brothers fighting each other without knowing it.

[@MrPeachUK]

Literally just played through this part yesterday and having been a Final Fantasy fan and having played a good number of them over the years. This scene felt so unbelievably dark compared to what I'm used to. I was stunned. Not in a bad way, it's super powerful storytelling, but going from that little innocent kid we need to protect to seeing what happens to him (albeit as the Phoenix) felt utterly dark/brutal.

[@Gwynbleidd_117]

I’ll always love how as *soon* as Joshua starts to prime Torgal gets up and is just like “well you guys are fked, later!”

[@marioscorseze8155]

I have 27 years of gaming experience. And i swear I have never seen anything cooler than this, goosebumps all over my body. 1-st place in my personnel list.

[@dazzaboy04]

Everything just blends together so well! You've got the absolutely EPIC eikon of fire score in the background, you've got Ifrit jumping from rock to rock, you've got Joshua in his Phoenix from shouting "stay away from me!" it just absolutely ramps up the adrenaline for the battle you're about to be involved in!

[@Levleup]

My jaw was dropped the entire time I played this section. What a fantastic way to end the prologue!

[@Mr._Sherwood]

Spectacle and story significance aside, the fact that they just straight up went "yeah you remember Asura's Wrath? We're doing that now" and decided to be a QTE-laden downright spectacular rail shooter for this fight was just fantastic. And with the spectacle of it all? It's just absolutely phenomenal. Can't wait to see how the game handles the other Eikon battles.

[@parrotpop7277]

This game is perfect! Cannot wait for full release, got 9 days straight off work to play it

[@yvn_youngdexter2741]

Lucky 😔😔😭😭

[@andrewhelms6249]

Nice! I'm saving all my PTO for FF7 Rebirth. I'll be taking like 16 days off for that xD

[@FlownXp]

Josuah’s actor is Hugo from A Plague Tale. Perfect voice cast.

[@barryrowe6173]

I thought there was something familiar about that voice lol Great Demo

[@spellsnare]

i knew it i did heard he voice somewhere but can't remember where

[@lypexiii8018]

Yeah and If i'm not mistaken the Voice of amicia is also on the game

[@tw-nv2wi]

@@lypexiii8018 she's young jill!

[@Starkiller5121]

I just started playing this. The grand scale boss fights are just beyond epic. The music as usual for Final Fantasy is godlike

[@fenixloder]

Wait for the later boss fights.....😅

[@Starkiller5121]

@@fenixloder I finished a three part grand fight yesterday. Like fighting a mountain with a rock

[@dinorex3464]

Soken is such a master. That ominous music as Ifrit rises is actually a remix of Find the Flame...

[@njames69]

Haven’t seen something so gut wrenching in a game in so long…

[@tonyv6815]

This has to be one of the best games of all time just in terms of pure spectacle if nothing else. The artists, sound designers, and animators are some of the best in the world and its all made 100x better by the awesome score

[@paulmikkeltaka102]

00:45 OH NO!! My Hogwarts Invitation!!!

[@unscripted483]

Before playing the demo I totally thought legacy would've been GOTY but no this will be for sure

[@ProjectGamerYT]

Haha i'm dead 💀

[@dr.hasdan]

Gotta say Ben starr has nailed the role of Clive so far. Haven't heard raw emotion from a voice actor like that in a while.

[@alex_lucas]

This ost is awesome

[@0joshdude]

Ikr they nail the music

[@super-engineer8437]

💥💥💥

[@astolfoisepicnotgay4949]

Does anyone know the name of this song yet?

[@chipsfries5638]

masayoshi Soken supremacy !!!

[@0joshdude]

​@@astolfoisepicnotgay4949find the flame

[@kingdomjr_death5]

8:17 is where it gave me chills with the music. It is so good?

[@darkcobra1418]

I’m confused here. At 3:59, it seems like we’re seeing someone else turn into Ifrit from Clive’s POV, but at 12:22, it’s from Clive’s POV again as Ifrit’s pummeling Phoenix. Also in a couple of the trailers, we’ve seen 2 Ifrits fight. So is this somebody else killing Joshua or is it Clive???

[@masonthepotato5971]

Pretty sure it's Clive the whole time, I just don't think he's actually in control hence his sort of 3rd person perspective of his own transformation. Could be wrong but at least Murdoch's reaction makes it seem as though Clive transformed.

[@NB-bt4wf]

Clive, utterly traumatized, may be inhabiting Ifrit without control during the intense battle, which is why he remembers it later at the campfire, but during Ifrit's beating of Joshua, his mind couldn't take it anymore (especially because it's his Eikon form enacting such a heinous act on his little brother) and Clive found a temporary home within Torgal, who has a special bond with Clive and who was witnessing from a different vantage point without the sepia wash. Clive may have special abilities to do so, he certainly seems to have a type of precog ability shown when he's older and seems to feel danger incoming and what direction. I wonder if Elwin was like Clive, Ifrit's chosen, and didn't know it, and nothing truly ever summoned Ifrit from him (and maybe other ancestors), but something flipped the switch with Clive (intense life or death situation, fire storming about him, apydectory nearness, hard and heavy battles, a fellow Eikon summoning, and father the previous container's death, all culminating to Ifrit yanking control or being able to be summoned out to protect the host). Clive also suffers some type of amnesia due to the trauma. I would think it might be a depersonalization added to it from trauma of transformation and trauma of being an indirect tool of kinslaying. I don't think his mother's treatment of him and from her sycophants aided his coping skills growing up, and he likely learned his form of escapism early in life. Something I noticed or seem to notice during a rewatch is, when he's having his sudden migraine and falls to his knees, something of his tone changed, as if he were talking to himself or rather someone else to "Save him" - to save Joshua. It was said in such a grit clear way, not under breath as someone does when talking to themselves. Maybe a small part knows about Ifrit, but at the time only intrinsically and subconsciously understanding he was not alone in his body, mind, and spirit, but also not really knowing it was Ifrit. Edit: The more I think about the Elwin thing, the more I think it may be possible he was Ifrit's Dominant. Clearly death of a Dominant is possible while they are at their most vulnerable (human form), I imagine had Clive not been forcibly transformed into the Eikon Ifrit he would have been immolated with the others and been truly crushed by falling debris. He had several close calls already that night previous. Ifrit eventually said, Nope, that's enough, and was enraged that his cozy situation of being sneakily alive and living vicariously through his Dominant was being threatened. Again.

[@robertstan8451]

The dog’s next to Clive when his 3’rd person sequence starts. They put that in for a reason, I’m sure. I can’t quite figure it out myself. Quite puzzling. Yoshida’s quite a big fan of mystery, so there you go.

[@toji6476]

@@NB-bt4wf nice deduction

[@smartfactscentral]

this caught me so off guard dude i dont think hes dead but HOLLLYYYYY crap that was awesome and honestly hard to watch at the same time. its been a while since weve had a final fantasy game that doesnt hold back.

[@tyshaun2jackson744]

Fr no shot they gave us one of the most badass sequences in all of FF and immediately kill him

[@unscripted483]

Considering that you played as him for a small part of the game I doubt it. I bet he ifrit and phoenix will fight again

[@unscripted483]

My theory is that he's still alive and that "new" dominant is actually a controlled or corrupted Joshua

[@MrShinigami420]

Yeah i forsure hope the kid aint dead man….

[@proksenospapias9327]

I'm pretty sure he's dead for good. Joshua dying is what drives the whole emotional journey of Clive for the rest of the story. Not only he has to save the world (?) but also save his soul, find a way to forgive himself. And what a setup this is, a new fresh take on the Werewolf trope, where the protagonist kills loved ones against his own will. It's seriously one of the best prologues in gaming. If they do a shitty anime "but wait Joshua's alive" it will just cheapen the story. I hope they don't.

[@le_hiyushi5459]

This design of Phoenix is simply so beautiful my favourite.

[@kaoruakimoto7167]

7:46 GODDAYUM THE SOUNDTRACK

[@metalrex1887]

I cant say ive ever gotten goosebumps from a demo before

[@jasonbrothwell5477]

i just finished the demo its Incredible

[@JarlBalgruuf]

The voice actor went so hard at the end

[@m.night_shyamamalama_sama_kun]

something in 10:04 is so nostalgic, rushing against a boss thats ready to cast death at all party members (unavoidable, maybe to prevent fighting for too long the game has set that parameter). loved that about final fantasy, i remember seeing this kind of move in 12 and 13 from bosses

[@Belarhos]

Those timed attacks have been in a lot of square games (even outside of FF) since they added the active time battle system in FF4

[@jackjacny9498]

One of the best and intense prologues I have experienced in gaming!!! The visual, music, plot, storytelling -superb !!

[@happypepper9326]

It is so dark. The two brothers killing each other for no reason. ... and Phoenix could try to heal the injureds. A tragedy.

[@mappybc6097]

Lust for power was the reason. Joshua was just an unintended victim of Anabella.

[@jasonsmarr3621]

Clive isn't Ifrit. He would know he was looking through Ifrit's eyes and the second part of the demo has him and Cid hunting down his brother and father's killer. Try the Ikonic challenge.

[@aminulhussain2277]

​@@jasonsmarr3621 Clive is ifrit's dominant, but since he wasn't in control he remains in denial and goes on a pointless search.

[@jasonsmarr3621]

@@aminulhussain2277 I've seen him fight Dark Ifrit in game. Makes no sense.

[@ssplif5415]

@@jasonsmarr3621that boss could literally just b in his mental

[@garrettwachendorfer1621]

The most stunning cutscene in the entire game imo. Fantastic scores, story beats, and acting. It’s difficult for a game to really shock me but from when the king lost his head to when ifrit impales the Phoenix my jaw was completely dropped. Ifrits first entrance is just nuts in particular.

[@eltigreduarte8977]

4:20 You can literally see Murdoch’s face burn off, this game is brutal 💀

[@ProjectGamerYT]

Damn yeah if you pause at the moment you do get a glimpse of it

[@FunkyTurkeyRabbit6135]

I was sad when he died. I liked him. I wonder what happened to the two guy that fought with Clive. They weren't killed by the Phoenix spawning. Maybe they survived and r in hiding

[@christbenitez8797]

This was heavily inspired by game of thrones and the devs admitted it they put some elements on it

[@linneausmsiska1184]

Didn't expect a demo to show this much

[@weilima9316]

2 hours. Normal playthrough of full game is supposed to take 40-50 hours according to Devs. So they actually haven’t shown that much yet…

[@linneausmsiska1184]

@@weilima9316 i know but demos even for a long rpg game are usually short

[@OllieMcIntosh]

Literally everything that can possibly go wrong does in this scene

[@notthisnow589]

Holy. That was. DARK.

[@masterseal0418]

This is insane! So was Clive the one who attacked Joshua since he wasn't used to his Eikon powers yet? If so, shit... At the end, Ben Starr could literally top Adam Howden as 'Male British VA who put a lot of emotion into the main character from a JRPG'.

[@TheLoneGamr]

That is a good question. I am also wondering if it is a full transformation or is it like Attack on Titan where the Eikon surrounds the body and the Eikon is essentially a mech. I want lore and I want it now.

[@aminulhussain2277]

I think that what happened was that ifrit had taken control from clive.

[@masterseal0418]

@@aminulhussain2277 It would legit be like the plot twist in Spec Ops The Line where the main hero of the story is actually making people suffer(that includes the iconic White Phosphorus scene).

[@dazzaboy04]

Ifrit was Clive. But Clive had absolutely no control over him and was just sort of, in him as a passenger, which explains Clive begging Ifrit to stop hitting Joshua as Phoenix

[@masterseal0418]

@@dazzaboy04 I just predicted that only a while before FFXVI launched so yeah. It took plenty of time until Clive had full control over his Ifrit form.

[@ShinPepsiman]

The story definitely has me intrigued. Did clive transform into ifrit or was it the flaming humanoid? If it was clive it seems since he cant control his transformation maybe that might explain why he wasnt chosen as the phoenix. There are also 2 ifrits as weve seen in one of the trailers. I'm so glad this releases next week

[@AndrewSmith00000007]

I think it’s clive. If you watch the last scene where Ifrit smashing Phoenix to pulp, you will hear Clive telling Ifrit to stop which he failed.

[@ougazu32]

I think it wasn't Clive, and he wasn't Joshua either, well..he was also a phoenix but in a different body. If Clive is an Ifrit that means the phoenix should recognize him as his brother. So I think it's a different person controlling the ifrit using Clive's powers. Also at the end Clive says that he will kill him in Torgal's pov (probably), meaning he is not the Ifrit It could be wrong. We'll see in the full game!

[@Caporg3000]

I think it’s Clive. He doesn’t have control of Ifrit. When he’s pleading with Ifrit you see the scene through the same grainy lens as when we were in Joshua’s perspective as the Phoenix looking down at Ifrit.

[@AndrewSmith00000007]

@@ougazu32 It’s clive who is yet to have control over Ifrit. If you watch Garuda fight scene, clive turned into Ifrit when Garuda tried to squeeze Clive to death.

[@AndrewSmith00000007]

@@Caporg3000 not just that. In showcase, they showed a fight scene with Garuda where Garuda tried to kill Clive to death by squeezing him. Clive turned into Ifrit.

[@user-ko5ul7yi1x]

Joshua: *YOU! SHALL! NOT! PASS!!!!*

[@boxwi]

Genuinely as good as or better than some of the best cinema and television out there.

[@Kaoru_Kensaki]

This Demo alone would be my game of the year, Zelda was great but man this is just on another level.

[@srjbread]

Game of the year, and it's not even released yet. 😞🤦‍♂️

[@jasonsmarr3621]

This has me hooked so bad. Was hyped but not to this level. So ready.

[@psychogamer7213]

Clive's voice actor deserves an Oscar for this scene Alone.

[@oalha001]

That sequence @6:30 was so smooth…

[@emanuelberaru4345]

The best fight ive seen since naruto and sasuke at the waterfall tbh

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

This is the second time I've heard Logan Hannan playing a young child with a power he can't control, and it STILL breaks my heart every time I hear that terrified little voice.

[@Panos_1821]

"I ll save them all"... Proceeds to cremate everything possible! Great job Joshua❤

[@s.ballert]

You have to hear the German version when Clive is crying over his brother, the emotions are too heavy and real man

[@daoudmh1]

One of the most epic fight sequences and music in the whole FF series….. 50 EXP 😂

[@adityaalfarizqiarifin7785]

so in the end the one who lost control is not joshua but clive?

[@WraithDeath]

Still a bit lost whether or not that was "Clive" that became Ifrit and killed his brother due to losing control ,or if it was someone else . Past trailers have shown off what appears to be two Ifrits but guess we all just have to wait until the full game 👀

[@corey5300]

Feel like its about to be some time travel involved.

[@dazzaboy04]

That was indeed Clive as Ifrit. Ifrit is within Clive, but he also harnesses the powers of the Phoenix. Ifrit was bursting to get out which is why Clive was experiencing the pain in his head. But when Ifrit comes out, Clive is just a passenger, with absolutely no control over Ifrit's actions

[@WraithDeath]

@dazzaboy04 yes I'm aware now after having played the game 😅

[@lincolnprestes7617]

5:17 to 5:43 is so epic. Cant wait to hear what else this game has

[@quentinb734]

damn this the best game demo i’ve ever played

[@UnVagetable]

This reminds me of evangelion Toji scene.

[@shiroutheherotraceon3313]

Someone needs to put Evangelion music over that scene and it would fit perfectly.

[@Temuho]

Yeah, the same when shinji kills asuka in rebuild

[@mathiasgomez1231]

Asi es señores, lo que acabamos de ver en efecto es cine

[@dannypenfold9301]

this scene is way to similar to Evangelion (1995) Eva unit-1 vs Eva unit-3 but less violent.

[@shiroutheherotraceon3313]

Clive is even helpless to watch like Shinji when the dummy plug system was used.

[@aykan5621]

Fuck I'm a fake evangelion fan. How I didn't think that 😢

[@leonardchurch814]

I scrolled too far to see someone say this. This is exactly like the Bardiel fight.

[@thessk_1]

The developers did state that Evangelion was a huge inspiration for the Eikon fights

[@admontblanc]

And some of the later fights seem to homage other anime works. One of the boss fights mirrors Goku Vs Kid Buu in DBZ.

[@di4mgaming115]

last time ifrit's boss theme went this hard was with Hellfire. this game is so fucking banger

[@aoto8897]

This is Phoenix theme. While Ifrit theme is Find the Flame.

[@di4mgaming115]

@@aoto8897 I said it in the sense that its a boss theme that plays when you fight Ifrit

[@user-wu4ed3zl4b]

Rip Joshua :(

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

Eh he's a Phoenix he'll live

[@aminulhussain2277]

He'll probably come back to life.

[@IgnusXI]

This is by far the greatest demo with one of the best boss fights in gaming history.

[@elyk666]

the way my jaw was completely on the floor while playing this for the first time was just insane. this game is unreal.

[@Lehornet85]

The soundtrack gave me chills, the scene got me on my emotions and I thought I was watching a movie 💯🔥🎮

[@TruePeaceSeeker]

The song goes INSANE man 😭

[@bigbosss7911]

4:44 does anyone know if this motif is from an older ff game or not? Because to me it sounds so familiar but I can't tell which game, anyone can help? edit: I think it may be from FF3's boss theme but not sure

[@Gonzalouchikari]

11:42 This scene reminds Evengelion, the scene where Bardiel take the control of the Unit 03, and then Gendo activate the Dummy Plug of the Eva 01, so Shinji watches in horror as his unit slaughters and destroys the unit piloted by a person close to him. Even the screams of Clive reminds me Shinji screaming.

[@junebug4004]

The "murderer, i kill you i fucking kill you." is what got me to buy this game.

[@easoncaelum4072]

The Eikon battles just makes me want a Next-gen HTTYD game with bosses like this, and they do remind me of those “fight scenes with healthbars” videos

[@m.night_shyamamalama_sama_kun]

8:40 favourite part of the music

[@boopagm8275]

I know the chances are slim to none. but since we don't see them get evaporated like Murdoch. part of my hopes Tyler and Wade are somehow alive and reunite with Clive.(and hey, maybe their last names are Biggs and Wedge)

[@diccchocolate416]

They really should have been bigga and wedge shouldn't they?

[@waleejfn]

The music is really amazing

[@ajflink]

Keep in mind something about this. This is 2 to 3 hours into the game, the first Eikon fight and each one is more ridiculous and epic than the last.

[@jlgjr291]

The ONLY THING reeling me into this game IS the Eikon battles. All the other Devil May Cry style gameplay i can totally do without actually, but THIS is what pulls me

[@RileyZilla1001]

I've never seen them kill a chocobo before.

[@spellsnare]

FF type-0 did chichiri was her name he get shot

[@darrenpattison7674]

@@spellsnare That was probably the last time FF did a truly disturbing and distressing scene.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

I love that Joshua is almost like a puppy that's trying to be tough but he actually has the power to back up his words. He also could've easily fallen into the trope of being too scared to use his powers but no, when the time came, he truly fought as hard as he could to save the kingdom. Hell, I didn't even realize the first time playing this scene that he even has a sword! Sets the stage perfectly for his personality later in the game. But can I be honest? I hated pretty much all of the Eikon battles 😅. After the initial glam wore off, I found them chaotic and confusing. I know I died multiple times in the battle against Hugo Kupka during the very, very long Eikon battle at the Fang. I would just rather keep my human form and fight that way. I still really loved this game, though. Already bought the first DLC and we're supposed to be getting another and I'll definitely be getting that one, too (seems it will be bigger than the first, which was already an extra two to three hours).

[@legendkiller161]

The demo made me want to smoke a cigarette when completed. And I don't even smoke. I'll be honest, I wasn't 100% sold on this game up until trying the demo, but WOW. I loved it. I will definitely be checking this out

[@oktusprime3637]

"Eikon of fire vanquished" So that was a fucking lie.

[@Nobuwaroo]

So we know that there are 2 "Ifrits", but I find it suspicious that we never saw Clive after the fact even when we heard his voice. (Also didn't play demo my comment is just based on this clip)

[@banglefaar]

That's Phoenix and Ifrit. I believe Ifrit is some unknown fire Eikon that possesses Clive for some reason and used him to destroy Phoenix. Something is definitely going on behind the scenes.

[@coupdegrace2767]

it felt more like dissociative identity disorder, that or Clive had Ifrit's Dominant inside of him all along (but that would contradict him using Ifrit's power later on in the story).

[@unscripted483]

​@@coupdegrace2767 from what it seems like is that he has had an issue with ifrit trying to possess him before. Before he turned he got a head ache and said "not again not now, I must save joshua"

[@proksenospapias9327]

@@coupdegrace2767 I've never seen a more zoomer comment in my life. Seriously? "dissociative identity disorder"? Really? couldn't it be simpler and more plausible to say that Clive couldn't control ifrit? Should we send Clive to some therapy sessions? A safe space?

[@RadioNocturnus]

@@proksenospapias9327 imagine thinking mental illnesses are some sort of new phenomenon 💀

[@HJLusio]

The main protagonist watches as someone he loves gets killed by a giant monster then afterwards screams "I'll kill you!" Now where have I seen this before? 🤔

[@Justabiscuit1]

The Godzilla earth trilogy?

[@masterseal0418]

Xenoblade 1?

[@dendroson]

Tales of Berseria?

[@Lynce222]

Attack on titan

[@masterseal0418]

@@Lynce222 Possibly...

[@Mr.-Grimm-]

This games gonna be amazing! Love that the story is gonna be Clive trying to figure out a way to destroy Ifrit but it's himself