Final Fantasy 16's New Game+ Changes the ENTIRE GAME?!

[@KCaldwellBlue]

Wow a mode where we actually get to use our legendary weapons on actual fights and not the last boss. I can’t wait

[@argentumoculisgrimm9619]

Would this also mean that the final boss will have like, legendary final boss loot as well?

[@mappybc6097]

Get ready for Ultima Weapon to be the reward for killing Omega MK16 or whatever the hidden superboss of 16 is called.

[@cylith5627]

crazy that its a novel idea huh? More recent example for me is Xenoblade 2. You ONLY get the best weapons from the final 2 secret bosses, y'know, the ones you'd want your best weapons to fight in the first place lol No idea why RPG's got away from this concept. To let me use the Ultimate equipment against the final boss and secret/optional fights, not get them FROM those secret/optional fights that are post game as it is.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

I'm more impressed that what we're facing here is a video game that's made to be just that: A video game. No monetization, no in-game purchases, just pure, untainted gameplay like the 'good old days'.

[@28Pluto]

@@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs By the good old days do you mean every Soulsborne game that FromSoft has put out in the last 15 years? (which also all come with NG+ on day one.) If you're just focusing on shit like Ubisoft and Blizzard, that's your oversight. Not every modern developer is a soulless (no pun intended) greed factory.

[@bandi138138]

The Dragon’s Voice and Ram’s Voice mechanics are EXACTLY how it is in 14, and it’s making me smile

[@DemonLordSparda]

I caught that too. It made laugh.

[@Moofmoof]

PURPLE EYES IN, BLUE EYES OUT

[@Lagzlot]

Ram's Voice even has the same BS hitbox and timing as Cutter's Cry.

[@DimitriMoreira]

Has Max ever played 14?

[@raven12333]

@@Moofmoof Fucking sprouts not listening!!!!!!

[@sanddry738]

New Game+ being an extension with added stuff from the main game is something I always love. Gives a reason both to replay and be challenged by your favorite game

[@leovanilla6833]

Exactly why I loved playing DS2 on ng+

[@MundusFate]

yeah we got more motivation Btw friends have time check new FF16 3D Billboard I record in Shinjuku in my

[@IdentifiantE.S]

That's what a lot of games are missing, the fact that you can come back and play again.

[@Hypno_BPM]

@@leovanilla6833 what’s DS in this case ?

[@Hypno_BPM]

@@IdentifiantE.S i feel like randomizers in NG+ should become a standard for console games. PC players get to enjoy randomizers for decades and we never get to. I just imagine all the Resident Evil Remakes with randomizers or any open world game.

[@oEXTRA]

Wow they really made a Savage mode for the ENTIRE game. This game is just looking too good.

[@sporkmclork]

Missed opportunity to call NG+ "Final Fantasy XVI (Savage)"

[@wiziek]

dante must die from original devil may cry

[@MundusFate]

Yeah!! Btw have you listen to Ifrit epic track in our ch?

[@Drigooooooo]

Giving the Chimera the exact same mechanics it has in FF14 is so sick to me

[@Bustaperizm]

Came here to say that. That'd be cool if they just did single player version of ff14 fights. THIS SHALL BE A MERCY!

[@danceyrselfkleen]

It’s not that deep bro. You’re saying you’re getting excited for recycled content. Do better. Expect more.

[@Bustaperizm]

@danceyrselfkleen What era are you living in? Movies retelling stories from 30 years ago. Reaction channels. Remakes of games from 20+ years ago. How many dark souls/blood Bourne clones are there? Crying about "recycled" content are we? 🤣🤣🤣 Go be emo elsewhere.

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@Bustaperizm it’s not that deep bro. Just saying it’s a wild meat ride maneuver to be clapping like a seal for old shit in a new game. Go argue with a wall.

[@FakeHeroFang]

That's exactly what NG+ should be. An extension of the base game that gives you challenging content where your endgame equipment has time to shine, and is balanced assuming you are at maximimum potential, so you can't brute force it with big number unga bunga. People who play once and have their fill are still good, but the people who want more actually have a meaningful 2nd playthrough that's more than the same game but some stuff carries over.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

Couldn’t agree more! I feel like a lot of games don’t utilize new game plus to its full potential tbh. A lot of times it’s just the game being exactly the same with the only change being that you are fully kitted and have all your upgrades

[@devin6079]

@@jeremyroberts8822which I think is perfectly fine but it is nice to have added content.

[@Dracobyte]

Yes, it is not only "A new save file but harder".

[@DanSQ28]

I do agree about these new game+ mechanic Sure being immediate op from beginning is cool and fun especially where you op the boss you once struggle before but being repetitive may cause it to get bored easily In fact there's another game where they have new game+ but including higher difficulty as well new enemy and that is Borderland After beating any Borderland they unlock True Vault Hunter difficulty where you keep your endgame gear and lvl and fight new and harder enemy

[@tlatia6072]

So Max, how many times are you gonna play through this game?

[@AverageBananas12]

Probably as much as an average person who eats bread in their lifetime

[@Coswalker27]

​@@AverageBananas12😂😂

[@asherlahr5236]

​@AverageBananas for me that would be everyday lol

[@Mike-rt2vp]

​@@Human.33people using the "imagine" response in 2023.

[@itsyaboisoma]

Yes

[@heavylancer2556]

I love how the FFXVI chimera is using the same design and Dragon's Voice/Ram's Voice from FFXIV

[@Shadowofawolf]

Actually went out of their way to change up the enemy variety throughout the game. So when you revist areas your not gonna be like "Oh I know exactly how to take down these specific enemies" you gotta become even more godlike with your current abilities. That's so freaking cool

[@JTown465]

As someone who's also familiar with character action games, New Game+ is basically how DMC/Platinum's harder difficulty modes work: They're designed with you having full access to all the tools in the game so enemy placement is different and they have additional attacks. Except this is a 40 hour narrative-driven RPG instead of a brisk 10-15 hour action game.

[@catatonic165]

Thank god we are getting an option to turn off the motion blur. Its extremely over used in the demo

[@LostChildOfTime]

Square has been doing NG+ in their games since the mid 90s. They just didnt do it for most of their Final Fantasy releases. Chrono Trigger and Cross. Parasite Eve. I do wish they considered it in more FF titles. It's like they started the trend, but other games carried it on until newer IPs that got big had it. Then they decided they had to do it. And why not? A lot of us are gonna play the games twice over at least, granted the game doesn't feel like anything is too ridiculous to obtain twice if it can't be carried over.

[@Happyfoam-lw3yt]

There's DEFINITELY an exclusive superboss (maybe even more than one) in Final Fantasy Mode that we're gonna find. I've played WAY too many SE games to not know that there's gonna be some delicious jank we're gonna have to do to unlock all the coolest endgame weapons and bosses. And I cannot wait.

[@nastycanadian1975]

I'd laugh if that jank was as involved as a Relic Weapon in XIV! 😝

[@AlmightySammich]

Absolutely, and I'm willing to bet there's secret Eikon abilities as well.

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

Bahamut has been teased on the trailers, so it can't be the secret eikon. Maaaaaaybe Alexander could be the super boss of NG+?

[@tjac7027]

@@mrblackjacker32.03 That would be so cool ngl

[@willsword8100]

Could be Leviathan

[@fenrirlives2226]

Man, my one hang up is that playing DMC V in Son of Sparda mode made me wish it was selectable from the start, as its enemy selection and formation was a straight upgrade in my eyes. I worry it'll be the same for FF16!

[@ace8776]

FF15 had a good thing going with NG+ where they added like 9 extra dungeons and a lot of secret bosses. I hope they have something similar in FF16 as well.

[@Kojikeefy]

​@@vintendiosadly your opinion doesnt matter

[@gurentgc3546]

​@@vintendiothat's very subjective. A lot of people really liked it.

[@reggieziet]

Yes yes yes! So many people seem to forget or underestimate how huge the FF15 endgame was!!

[@CountArtorias]

@@gurentgc3546 it was a really poor game initially but with royal edition it became pretty solid

[@MergedWarriors]

FFXV despite it's flaws, and unexplained parts ingame that were later added in DLC's was still a decent game. If a game can get me so invested that I even shed a tear at the end (like with Crisis Core), then it's a good game to me. Final Roadtrip The Game had a real boys only vibe to it and I liked that given the usual party is always mixed.

[@reggieziet]

If I got a gill for every time I read a fan say "I cant wait to play FF 16" in the last couple of weeks, I could have bought SquareEnix over twice and release the game today for everyone.

[@firework1929]

I would love you for that 😂😂 I'm dying here 💀💀

[@rubo8925]

Pleasantry in the comment section; what is this?

[@reggieziet]

@@firework1929 Its getting close, we will make it😁

[@TrvisXXIII]

I actually like the small detail of the damage output being minimal with each attack in this game. Enemies don’t need to have 1million HP for it to seem tanky, less damage has that same effect and when you land a 4 digit attack output, it actually looks impressive when it happens

[@babayaga4320]

I never play NG+'s. I always just start a new campaign because I don't like starting a game overpowered, and no leveling to look forward to, but this mode seems to fix the core issues I've always had with NG+'s. I hope more games will include modes like this going forward, other than just letting you play the game over with all of your gear, and being as powerful as you'll ever get from the start.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

I'm so glad I got a Ps5 today. Got to try the demo. SSS-tier. This game is going to be so bloody good.

[@NrettG]

Fuck I wish the game was already out. I can't wait two more days man.

[@Art.Wolfaryon]

Thats exactly how a new game plus should be, harder with new things to find and fight

[@luckyday5721]

That's just a FF14 Chimera that's so awesome. It even has the sane attack patterns

[@TR0YX0]

Never needed a game as badly as I need XVI in my LIFE. This is one for the history books.

[@PathFinder1490]

Devs: “We call this stage the Greatwood. You visit this area early on the Story/Action Focused Modes.” Max: “Yeah I played this area. It’s like an early area.”

[@dannyboots]

So he definitely played that area. Let it be known

[@MoonTiger88]

I so f-ing love how they implemented FFXIV's Chimera here

[@adrianhendricks772]

...And then on top of that, it's a natural fire-breather! What an absolute unit! 🔥❄️⚡️ _Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice, and Lightning, lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash..._ ⚡️❄️🔥 -- Shamouti Island prophecy, _Pokémon the Movie 2000: "The Power of One"_

[@chriskoloski32]

I would like a fun boss battle mode where you can play as any of the eikons with full move sets battling other eikons

[@luigiongaming3959]

I'm just glad the new game + is actually new. I don't need much but what Squenix is doing here is exactly what I'd like to see more games do.

[@krismunroe9849]

Locked to lvl 50 on our first run is a bummer, long gone are the days of mad grinding to lvl99 for the final boss

[@unfazedo]

Final Fantasy has become a joke. Long time fan of the series but accepted that fact long while now.

[@krismunroe9849]

@joedatius so I can get to level 99 on my first run like the good old days? I think you missed my point. If I can't then it's technically "locked" but what do I know

[@patrickhall1844]

I love that you brought up tactics cuz this game is giving me a lot of tactics vibes! Tactics being one of my all time favourites! This game has been the FF that I’ve enjoyed the most since I was a kid!

[@IncrediBurch]

With this kind of NG+, I think I’ll skip the side-quests on my first play to save more fresh content for myself for the 2nd. Since the story is probably the same, experiencing the side quests for the first time makes things even fresher.

[@RudeSaiyan]

I'm really happy to learn that they are looking into button binding. I was daydreaming yesterday if I could JUST swap circle and r1 buttons it would probably be perfect for me personally.

[@Locii97]

I'm hype for this! This is like Ninja Garden Sigma where at higher difficulties stronger enemies are introduced early and then have different types

[@Rageouz]

Best way to do higher difficulties and new game plus, great replayability and new optional content

[@VampireNoblesse]

somehow, this might have better endgame than Diablo 4..

[@beezysgs]

It's sad to see how many people misunderstand motion blur. It's fine if you don't like it at 60 fps but you actually NEED it at 30. You are doing more harm to yourself by turning it off at 30 fps because the game will look even more framey. Motion blur helps blend the frames, which gives the illusion of a more fluid motion.

[@Nic_Ryuu]

This is good, games should continue to make NG+ / Hard mode interesting, not just make enemies become damage sponges FFVII Remake's hard mode was so fun to play and this is coming from someone who typically sticks to only 1 Normal playthrough

[@starcilio4962]

The more you hear about this game , the more you realize they basically concretized most of the stuff they thought about for this game in no time. They went crazy on management and decision making to make sure this game is complete so they can focus on polish early on.Some games don't even have NG+ at lunch and you telling me they had one who change the entire game ?!

[@runza123]

Hopefully they will add Clive Must Die Mode as the highest difficulty setting in the future.

[@Dracobyte]

"Pandemonium and Pandemonium" as a reference to "Hell and Hell" difficilulty.

[@realtayo42]

Looking like this is going to finally be the glorious return of Final Fantasy after a looong time of...well 13 and 15.

[@HyperSonicX99]

I’m sorry but (not sorry) every time I see gameplay of the combos especially with the “extreme down thrust🔥🔥🔥” I was like *UUUUUUUUUHHH UUUUHHH UUUHHHHHHH* ; that type of excitement was overloaded and I’m glad they did. Far as with Final Fantasy Mode for NG+ is gonna be challenging just like Atlas on S rank which is worth playing in the first place. Funny enough Max brought up FF Tactics but I wish he brought up FFXV of how Noctis grew up at the end of the game where some showcase him as a kid on the demo or even the main story. The more characters evolve the better (or worse).

[@meteor22]

Wait, did I understand this correctly that you can't turn off motion blur atm?

[@StephenTheZ]

Honestly I'd be disappointed if things didn't change given the combat director. This NG+ FF mode is in line with SOS mode from DMC. I think the real question is if Ultimania mode will offer any additional changes as well.

[@Naviachi]

I love that NG+ is not just the same mobs with upscaled stats.

[@docilecatfish1370]

This is exactly what I want FS to do for every soulsborne game. Everybody who kept saying that doing something like this was a waste of resources has no idea what their talking about.

[@goncaloferreira6429]

DS2 had some good ideas. sadly they havent used them since.

[@deez8060]

Idk I played the demo in Graphics mode because the blur was pretty annoying and found it not bad at all…even went back to make sure it was in graphics mode because it felt pretty smooth

[@xSG1969x]

I guess you notice it less when the fps is locked at a specific value, never going below or above it. It's when it keeps dropping, then back up, then dropping again, that you really notice it.

[@KeonVioletWilkins]

This game is honestly a fantastic surprise since I've been staying mostly blind outside the demo. But FF Tactics and Dragon's Dogma are some of my top games of all time and this seems almost like a game of their combined ilk.

[@tinybee7780]

I'm curious if therre will be hidden hunts and superbosses that you can only fight in new game+ At least that gives us a reason to use up all of those elixirs.

[@matrix3509]

There's nothing I love more than a good new game plus mode. So few developers put any effort into it (looking at you, God of War), it feels so special to find the few who actually care.

[@xikaryo6735]

This game is going to be legendary dear lord!

[@godsplayingfield]

be interesting if the timely accessories can still be equipped. at the very least, i'll be usnig the torgal one as i will NEVER remember to use Torgal commands lol and Ultima weapon eh..... i am DEARLY hoping we get an added use for the SP we get. cause after we max all the skills, i hate dead currency. hopefully something like DMC5 where you can use the SP to power something (maybe give the Ultima weapon 1atk for every 100 SP unspent?)

[@Zero001]

I find it funny that they locked the Ultima Weapon behind New Game Plus. If you know your way around FF games you know from the start that there's an Ultima Weapon that you should really consider getting before the game is over which keeps your eyes open through the whole game to make sure you do not miss it. Here we don't have to do that. There will be something else to look for, definetly, but not what you usually look for every other game.

[@YetiCoolBrother]

On the flipside, this time you won't get Ultima Wrapon and then have like only 2-3 bosses to fight with it. Assuming you can craft it fairly early into NG+ you'll potentially have like 3/4th of an entire game with it which is dope.

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

Is it true Max got to play an early edition of Rebirth…? I thought I read that somewhere. That he got invited to play an early rendition of it.

[@carlos.cr.7139]

I don't think that's true my dude

[@dannyboots]

Nope

[@24knightkiller]

As much as I don't particularly like the direction the series has been going since 15 I think the game is gonna be amazing

[@LtZetarn]

TLDR ; New Game+ changed the game from Final Fantasy into Devil May Cry.

[@Dracobyte]

You gotta have that MOTIVATION.

[@TitaRussellTrails]

You'd think Square would have always been on the ball with NG+ given Chrono Trigger more or less pioneered it

[@HoIIowedSlayer]

I'm just so glad they have a proper NG+ mode straight away at launch. Most games only implement them at a later date.

[@shawnheatherly]

I do enjoy a NG+ that is pure power fantasy, but a harder run that changes meaningful stuff sounds excellent.

[@L-Man-Gaming]

If you thought the hunt you did was tough, wait until you fight two of those golems at once.

[@neoshenlong]

Holy crap the one year or so of waiting for this to come out on PC is going to be so painful

[@dannyboots]

😖

[@theangriestpigeon4403]

I'm very curious what you'll be able to spend your ability points on, as I would not be surprised in a secondary system post max lvl that lets you invest in your stats. Cost a considerable amount, but it is something an RPG would do and people do like Max Stat, busted af characters (looks over at Ultima VII and the sword that doubled my STR stat past the cap)

[@ekzsuncz7610]

I respect any devs that puts well thought challenge mode or new game+. There are no firm reasons to make these addition unless they just love their community and their games. "Here, play some more" said the devs

[@ArcRay20]

this idea sounds like what was attempted with FF13's post game, which was dumb because you needed to beat the game to be able to unlock the super gear which would make beating the game easier...in a game where the story was...something? and combat was weird.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

I really hope story bosses and hunts have new moves, too.

[@MagoMistgun]

Why does max's videos of streams always look so compressed visually? The VODs on Twitch have great resolution, but the youtube videos of same content look very blurry

[@coryyoung7544]

It could honestly be anything. From youtube not working to auto being set for the graphics to max making a mistake. It being set to auto is usually the problem switching it to 240p then whatever you prefer tends to work.

[@alenezi989a3]

Oh god the Chinera is actually using the attacks from ff14, lightning means get closer and Ice means get far away from it, that's going to be sick if enemies gave these recognizable patterns for their attacks so that you can either perfectly dodge or perfectly counter that's going to be so satisfying to pull off.

[@czarnylfernando17]

This is what elden ring's Ng+ is what I wished for, especially the enemies being changed

[@RealWorldGaming]

7:15 thank god the frame rate when effects were high was slowing the game a bit and the blur made it feel like I was seeing things

[@BlaqMagiq99]

This a REAL new game+ not just "new game" again

[@keaganwall8178]

I love how much this game echoes FFXIV while it being totally it’s own game. With FFXIV having become my favorite FF storyline it felt bittersweet because it’s an MMO so the time sink and monotony of the main story at times made it hard to digest or recommend to anyone else, but this seems like it has the potential to marry the good of FFXIV with the nicely wrapped bundle of a mainline FF in a way. Thank you Yoshi P

[@xxnike0629xx]

Great that they're putting so much effort into this. With an action based game, 60 fps is a must. The 4K thing is nice and all, but in actual playthrough, fps and frame pacing is more important.

[@silverboyy7630]

This goes to show why square continues to stay on top. 💯 launch update looks promising too. I hope that I’ll be able to dodge with circle

[@omarthepsycho]

Dang is motion blur really bothering people that much in the demo? I noticed it but to me it didn't seem that prevalent since I got used to it quick. Interesting how people are affected by certain game effects more than others

[@xSG1969x]

I didn't think it was bad in FF16. I do tend to turn it off for other games as I prefer everything to look a bit sharper, but here it worked out quite well IMO. if they give us the otion, I might turn it down a bit but probably not all the way off, I do like the cinematic feel it gives

[@omarthepsycho]

@xSG1969x I completely agree, I also think it's fine in this game because of how more cinematic it makes things look. If they could put in the option to tune it down just a bit I would do it too. I guess for a lot of people it's a bit too distracting tho

[@tatagprawiro4080]

in the most recent pre launch stream, they even showed how final fantasy mode's arcade mode looks like (with suzuki-san playing it)

[@finallyanime]

Ummm so normal new game+? Cool. I’m just frustrated pc doesn’t get it day1

[@joshallgrove9151]

Wdym that new game+ will raise the level to 100 when did it become the norm to set the level cap to 50?

[@chloefrazer2956]

I will not use timely accessories on new game plus.

[@ArmaHipHopTV]

"The Ultima Weapon" is giving me vibes of the Ultima Keyblade from KH1 and it's fitting that the Kingdom Hearts people worked on the combat for FF16.

[@Zero-ds9ws]

Well, the Ultima Weapon is kind of a series staple. KH being partially a crossover between Square and Disney properties, it makes sense that the ultimate weapon in KH is the same as the one for Square's flagship series.

[@Zdman2001]

I'm tempted to play 30fps. The quality drop for performance mode is pretty hefty. If they could reduce the blur a bit at 30, it would make it much better.

[@Bahhizzle]

WOW, Dragon's and Ram's voice attacks from the Chimera!? That's straight up XIV and I'm about it.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

[in a small voice] all single player games should come with a post-campaign endless challenge mode

[@leolupin7930]

that button option would be a crystal's blessing lol

[@snowrider9018]

4:09 Clive may be able to kill a Chimera, but Clive’s dog can withstand Clive’s whole hand stuffed in its head

[@Ephremjlm1]

Idk why they didn't have motion blur toggleable. Its like a known issue in modern games that it makes people sick and I literally can't even play it because ill get sick.

[@8minato]

Can this game come out already like I’m literally wasting away over here.

[@Force-Multiplier]

It won't change the entire game you know that ...

[@xyzen9673]

Ff15 was the entry level game for non fans.. and ff16 is the expected game for fans of FF. a veritable return to form.

[@smanrules101]

Jesus Christ, they aren't even hiding the fact it's a spiritual Devil May Cry game. I'm so excited

[@mint5438]

To quote someone elses comment from an old video, the demo of this game made me go from not really caring to a day one purchase.

[@leovanilla6833]

I wonder if it would be beneficial to just focus on the main quests in the game and then do side quests in NG+?

[@Xrated_YT]

Wait so we can get the Ultima Weapon if we play the hardmode right away?

[@leobarragan1098]

I don't think you can new game+ without a cleared finished the game save

[@coryyoung7544]

It does say replay so you'll probably have to beat it first to have the option to choose it.

[@Gayonetta5000]

I don’t know if I can be more hyped about this game! 💯

[@Xemnas283]

I rarely replay games I beaten the first time but this might be an exception. This is just too cool

[@akatsukimi]

I’m wondering if they kept those accessibility’s equipment even in this Final Fantasy mode.

[@galesturms]

Literally my biggest gripe is the motion blur from the demo, that shit was absurd, absolutely needs to be turned off. Even in performance mode you can still feel it.

[@engirish1977]

Damn this game is just getting better and better, few more days baby ❤

[@nxtlvlnlkr5312]

It looks so gray and brownish though, as if there's a gray filter on it. Or just they turned the saturation very low?

[@undefined3304]

I want a young Clive costume so i can play the whole game as him. I love his younger design

[@jackerie]

Bro I’m tryna make sense of the FF story because this with be the first FF game I will buy Demo had me HOOKED

[@Draylin41]

It makes sense that this reminds me of the hardmode dungeons they used to do for FF14. It's the same general layout for the environment but everything else about the dungeon changes so it's not just a harder version of the same thing.

[@xSG1969x]

yeah great way to reuse existing assets while stil providing a fresh experience. You can really tell the FF14 team worked on 16, and that's a good thing

[@hagriddy8]

This is sort of like Star Wars Jedi Survivor. In new game plus, the enemy encounters become much more scary which makes sense considering you are overleveled

[@InitialDL84]

Damn, this new game plus got me wanting the game more. It can at least hold me over until Lies of P comes out.