Final Fantasy II | KnockBack, Episode 262

Our meandering through the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters continues with Final Fantasy II, widely considered the 'black sheep' of the traditional series. But a lot of that hinges on perception, or lack thereof. See, Final Fantasy II took forever to come to the west -- it came to Famicom in 1988 but never migrated outside of Japan until it launched on PSone in 2003 -- so the reality is, a lot of people don't have any experience with it at all. And those that do have played it in sometimes less-than-ideal circumstances, though there are some good ports and reworkings on GBA (2004) and PSP (2007) to note. This episode of KnockBack, not surprisingly, is dedicated to the beleaguered II, the odd-man-out of classic Final Fantasy. With a differentiated experience system, an easily-broken economy, and actual characters and story, it's certainly a tale of ups and downs.

[@BurnoutsAndBourbon]

I actually really enjoyed this one. My expectations were SO LOW because everyone hates it. But it was great! Huge respect to the team for just going wild and doing SO MUCH NEW in a sequel.

[@Barquevious_Jackson]

1:42:09 - Because a single round is only 6 or 10 seconds and everyone is taking their turn at the same time.

[@AndrewEhrenreich]

Totally forgot this went up last week. Started watching and had to stop for the showcase. But my physical copy of Pixel Remaster for switch just shipped, cant wait to get it

[@jb0st]

I share the sentiment. I appreciated the history of playing FF2 but I don't think I'll ever want to touch on it again. Despite the missable chests, it felt like an overall easier platinum because the bestiary RNG wasn't as BLECH. I just started 3 and I'm truly, truly excited to get to 4, 5, and 6

[@knleonhart]

Once again, the original version of these games are all a lot more difficult. The experience slider is your friend when it comes to this. If you don’t adjust exp to 0.5, you’re going to find the whole collection doesn’t play the same that you remember.

[@michaelparlato7724]

Fully agree. Go hard or go home!

[@smgofdvld]

The post game of 2 has always fascinated me I never beat it completely but I’m excited to try it out again .

[@joshb3024]

Havent seen anyone mention it but the original FF did the whole missing mechanic. Characters would attack air on enemy death.

[@Gabzilla27]

Just got back into watching This podcast, and im loving it!! Binging them at work, such a good time

[@mikeychavers2686]

Haven’t played this one yet. But every time they bring up the leveling system it heavily reminds me of skyrim in a way. Sounds dope for it’s time

[@abeardedhoboTV]

More like oblivion

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Colin remember someone is just figuring out that 70s show was the same thing for early 00s

[@Jacknife_]

Loving these final fantasy knock backs!!! To be clear, i love all the knock backs as well

[@Easelgames]

You guys should do FF7-9 ogs for 2024! Make it an all year thing bc they’re long games but still.

[@IronbloodedRPGBadger]

Fun thought. Final Fantasy II would be considered the predecessor to Square Enix's 'black sheep' franchise: the SaGa series.

[@Gabzilla27]

Loving the Final Fantasy topic!!

[@JVPrice713]

Correction Colin, the row feature was introduced later in the series, but was added into the Pixel Remaster version of II

[@TheMaestro116]

You're the best Dagen!

[@michaelparlato7724]

I'm currently at the end of 4. My fav too.... I think 2 is better than 3.... Queue hate lol

[@jonesygrets6029]

Dagen your my favourite gen x dad. Can’t wait for the ff 4 and 6 reviews. Picked up a physical copy of the pixel remasters on playasia

[@bdre5555]

Any word on when the live show might be available for us freeloaders?

[@Aleut1]

I'm pretty sure characters would whiff their attacks if the enemy they were targeting had died in the original FF1, but they updated it in re-releases to make them attack the next enemy

[@MilesWilliams88]

I just played this one for the first time about a month ago. I legitimately couldn't stand it😂

[@ChichiNaka]

Did Dragon Quest make it to the states before DQ8? it feels like everyone 30-40 is frothing at the mouth over every final fantasy installment but DQ is left to the wayside

[@adamessmyer4428]

Yes, Dragon Warrior(as it was known here in the states) 1-3 came out on NES, and Dragon Warrior 7 came out on PS1, then DQ8 was the first to use the Quest name like it's original Japanese name

[@TheCosmicSkeleton]

Don't worry Dagen your the coolest most attractive dad I know

[@proggz39]

🥵🥵🥵

[@aaronedgell9426]

In the original nes FF1, it does miss if you attack a dead en.

[@clashclay]

We love our aging dad Dagen!

[@CRIZZZLPT]

for the LOVE OF GOD if i ever have to hear your obnoxious podcast ad on any other podcast i consume I will actually End my Life

[@coryc6934]

*PromoSM*

[@amwisdx]

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