Final Fantasy II retrospective (Pt. 1): Active-Time babble | Super NES Works

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Jeremy Parish | Video Works

Jeremy Parish | Video Works

Күн бұрын

This first of a multi-part look back at the original U.S. release of Final Fantasy IV explores the history behind the game and the significance of its innovative combat engine, the Active-Time Battle System.

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@SaxcatGamingCorner
@SaxcatGamingCorner 6 жыл бұрын
This is the game that gave me a love of not only reading, but RPGs and video games in general.
@SaxcatGamingCorner
@SaxcatGamingCorner 6 жыл бұрын
Vic Vega more like wasn’t interested in reading until then. I was nine. Would read many books. 🙄
@hurktang
@hurktang 5 жыл бұрын
That's the game that taught me English actually ^^
@keldonmcfarland2969
@keldonmcfarland2969 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. In college, I introduced this game to a professor in a literary theory course on world & comparative myth. He, of course, had already heard of this game long before. (Turns out LOTS of his students told him about this one and many others.)
@benkizer9509
@benkizer9509 4 жыл бұрын
I remember renting this at Blockbuster in 1991 shortly after getting my Super NES. Only 8 at the time and used to the NES, this game blew me away with its epic soundtrack, complex storylines, high level of challenge and beautiful graphics. While other Super NES RPGs would rank higher in preference for me like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy III (VI) and Earthbound, this was a very enjoyable game to dive deep and get into as a kid.
@skullbanger3751
@skullbanger3751 6 жыл бұрын
One of my Snes Favs.. It has the deepest nostalgia for me..
@CrimsonDX
@CrimsonDX 5 жыл бұрын
Here it is. One of the two game that got me in to gaming, and the game that started my life long obsession with Japanese RPGs. This was one of the two additional games my dad got when we bought an SNES (The other being Zelda) I enjoyed both of them so much more than Mario. Man, I have so many amazing memories with this game. I would have only been around 3-4 at the time, but I tore in to the game with a passion that no other game at the time had elicited from me. Sure I dabbled in Mario, and I even played a few 8bit RPGs like the first FF, Dragon Warrior, and even Ultima on the NES, but this was the one.
@dcsoda1
@dcsoda1 6 жыл бұрын
Always good to see the best SNES Final Fantasy talked about.
@MissFuzzbottom
@MissFuzzbottom 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't experience this game until Super Mario RPG introduced me to the RPG genre. And when I did finally play this, I fell in love with the game.
@LeroyOctopus
@LeroyOctopus 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that Amano did the designs for Gatchaman. That might explain part of why I like Gatchaman so much.
@jasongarrett768
@jasongarrett768 6 жыл бұрын
Vampire Hunter D as well! He also did covers for the Japanese editions of the Elric novels. Speaking of, Japanese cover art is well worth looking into for fantasy novel fans. I want a Japanese edition of Goblin Emperor so much now.
@mikesimpson3207
@mikesimpson3207 4 жыл бұрын
He also worked on Casshern and Speed Racer.
@jasongarrett768
@jasongarrett768 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly the kind of retrospective I've been waiting for on this game, and there's still more. :D The audio will get its time in the sun later, but I'm grateful again for Actraiser's influence. That soundtrack was one of the first to make me just stop and listen as a child. I don't know if it would have been as marketable in the early 90's, but I dearly wish we had gotten that beautiful Amano artwork on our covers, especially in IV/2's case, but even Japan missed out on an Amano cover with this one. The GBA remake's cover would have been a thing of beauty and wonder to young!me, much like Katsuya Terada's Zelda artwork. It's sad that this specific version of the game is really the roughest of the bunch, but FFIV has received an unusually high amount of love on the remake front. I'd personally recommend the DS/iOS/PC release but the PSP Complete Collection is a solid choice as well and probably closer to the original intended experience. They're both far more polished and intact, each with far less clunky translations as well. This video touched on something I've missed: differing execution times for actions, especially spells. It's one of the extra sources of strategy and tension in many tabletop RPGs and the automated timekeeping seems like it would always be in easy fit for the concept. I do remember frantically trying to decide on my options in a clench back then and don't recall as much pressure in later entries. Eagerly awaiting the next video.
@StewNWT
@StewNWT Жыл бұрын
Strangely I still prefer the original version of FFIV on the SNES above all other versions. The music and sound quality is just untouchable
@georgehenson2412
@georgehenson2412 6 жыл бұрын
6:40 There's a big misunderstanding about Amano's contributions in Final Fantasy. His designs are not what appear in the game. He was there for a lot of it to create marketing and manual images. Retroactively in the remakes they tried to portray the characters as being based on Amano's art, but it was largely the other way around. Amano's art was based on Kazuko Shibuya's pixel art for most of the characters. shmuplations.com/kazukoshibuya/
@BoneyGaf
@BoneyGaf 6 жыл бұрын
F-Zero not being in the intro is a pretty big omission. Sure it didn't set the world on fire but it really was one of a kind breathtaking racer.
@JeremyParish
@JeremyParish 6 жыл бұрын
It was impressive, but like Pilotwings it changed nothing about the genre.
@MrToothrot
@MrToothrot 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!! Great work, looking forward to part II.
@sethr2666
@sethr2666 5 жыл бұрын
This is probably the third or fourth of these videos I’ve watched today and it blows my mind you don’t get more views than you do. Keep it up!
@waah919
@waah919 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Jeremy. Can't wait until you get part 2 out. You really do these old games a great service.
@emberleona6671
@emberleona6671 4 жыл бұрын
15:25 frog and tiny spells😁 game had a great soundtrack
@Bigbacon
@Bigbacon 2 жыл бұрын
best FF of the 8/16bit era.
@Duke_Togo_G13
@Duke_Togo_G13 5 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Origins (1&2) on PlayStation was fantastic, and Final Fantasy Chronicles and Anthology caught us up and helped fix the order of titles. The redone graphics and format made the first two better than original.
@gurgamous
@gurgamous 6 жыл бұрын
who in the hell dislikes videos this well made? i mean... do they dislike food and sex as well?
@gurgamous
@gurgamous 6 жыл бұрын
haha
@thechrononaut1
@thechrononaut1 6 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I was preferential toward the more straightforward definition of "turn based" (what can I say, I was a FFX kid), but my first play through of FFV changed that. I still enjoy the FFX style of battle (who doesn't like having infinite time to make decisions??), but ATB makes it feel more intense, especially when you've wandered your way into some serious sh*t. Also, this gets my vote for best SNES Works episode title.
@jonothanthrace1530
@jonothanthrace1530 6 жыл бұрын
FF10's battle system was good for the fact that character speed actually mattered, whereas with other systems it generally doesn't at all.
@thechrononaut1
@thechrononaut1 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. It was nice to be able to look at the battle order and know that I could use it to plan ahead or make critical decisions about when to do what, or manipulate it with Slow/Haste, etc. I really enjoyed that battle system, and I still do.
@darktetsuya
@darktetsuya 6 жыл бұрын
at the time I wasn't super into final fantasy 2 (I'll just go ahead and follow US naming conventions since that's what he's doing) back in the day but I did finally beat it on PSX a few years ago. But watching this video definitely made me appreciate the game's innovations that much more! also had to laugh at the hokuto no ken reference... might need to watch that series, lol.
@jimmyw604
@jimmyw604 5 жыл бұрын
This is still my all time favorite game
@Sailorbunny18
@Sailorbunny18 8 ай бұрын
The ending is the transformation music from sailor Moon
@rodneylives
@rodneylives 5 жыл бұрын
One note I'd make is, although it's true that the turn-based aspect is something that came from pen-and-paper games and could stand to be left behind, there are a number of other design relics that JRPGs adhere to to this day, most notably experience levels, which is something most non-D&D-based pen-and-paper games have long since abandoned, and was looking pretty old in the tooth even in the days of Runequest, which is downright venerable.
@shane1489
@shane1489 4 ай бұрын
I loved this game so much and it helped me learn to read.
@matthewbarabas3052
@matthewbarabas3052 2 ай бұрын
wow, that would have been a terrible game to learn english on.
@shane1489
@shane1489 2 ай бұрын
@@matthewbarabas3052 No doubt but the vast majority of the words were spelled correctly and taught context. This was at about age 6 so it was far beyond what the school was teaching.
@Radiogosha
@Radiogosha 6 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest Builder is like a spiritual successor to Actraiser.
@JeremyParish
@JeremyParish 6 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the ActRaiser episode.
@Radiogosha
@Radiogosha 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Parish Yeah, but in the context of this video, you say it's ideas were abandoned, just kind of strange to say. I still enjoyed this video though.
@JeremyParish
@JeremyParish 6 жыл бұрын
A similar game showing up 25 years later is not exactly a case of an idea catching fire.
@Radiogosha
@Radiogosha 6 жыл бұрын
I only mentioned it because they are both made by Enix. There are other games similar to the genre Actraiser is, they just are not very popular. Dark Cloud, Rune Factory, Ever Oasis, and Dungeon Maker: Hunting Ground are a few with similar themes. I don't know if you've played a lot of those, but you might want to check them out.
@roguerifter9724
@roguerifter9724 6 жыл бұрын
I remember being furious with Square for a very long time after reading up on Final Fantasy II NES and before Final Fantasy Origins because after reading about how stat growth worked in the game and reading a story synopsis I was certain I would have loved the game. It is still either my fourth or fifth favorite Final Fantasy depending on my mood. II SNES/IV is ok but its pretty far down my favorite Final Fantasy list. I was playing PC RPGs like the Ultima, Wizardy and AD&D based games for a couple of years before I started playing NES RPGs and even longer before I played Final Fantasy II SNES/IV. I hated how linear the game was and the lack of party options but I did like the ATB system.
@7thangelad586
@7thangelad586 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh! I can positively gush about this game... *gushes*
@willmatheson
@willmatheson 4 ай бұрын
The thing I don't like about the ATB here is that they don't give you a way to pass your turn on without doing something, except as by parrying. But V through IX would let you do that.
@travisrandall9134
@travisrandall9134 5 жыл бұрын
Just awesome. Subscribed.
@alexanderwestphal9777
@alexanderwestphal9777 5 жыл бұрын
Boss battle music from this era was so tryhard. Genius
@thebigbrzezinski3201
@thebigbrzezinski3201 6 жыл бұрын
I preferred the Breath of Fire series once the PSX came out, but the SNES Final Fantasies paved the way.
@chrissantana1836
@chrissantana1836 6 жыл бұрын
My fave super title, Rydia is a monster when you get her the second time........
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 Жыл бұрын
I played this in the past and I’m not a huge rpg fan or final fantasy fan for that matter this is from purely personal experience. I personally think it’s better the final fantasy three (which is six in japan) still that’s probably just nostalgia talking. Still a great game for anyone just getting into the final fantasy series.
@jjmah7
@jjmah7 5 жыл бұрын
This guy might not be old enough to recall that this game actually converted an entire generation of gamers into RPGers. Prior to this it was much more niche in the realm of nerdery...but this game was so awesome that everyone was playing it and more FF games to follow
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 жыл бұрын
Who else taped down buttons on their Super Nintendo controllers to power-level automatically when you were on the raft section? ✋
@ChickenFriedCorgi
@ChickenFriedCorgi 6 жыл бұрын
Active time babble... Thought you'd get kat Bailey on!
@rashidisw
@rashidisw 6 жыл бұрын
its "a TV" youtube's auto caption algorithm think so.
@MrBacchus18
@MrBacchus18 6 жыл бұрын
I need to play this again, haven't since i came out. Does anyone know if the DS version or PSP (Final Fantasy complete collection) version is better?
@CM-wv8ns
@CM-wv8ns 3 жыл бұрын
I have the DS version, the graphics were overhauled with new cinematic cutscenes & voice acting. My first playthrough on the DS version without guides/walkthroughs was based on my original memories of the game on SNES years prior and was a great trip. Replays were fun because new game mechanics allow customization of the party via new game plus
@Grachtnakk
@Grachtnakk 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this channel is the spiritual successor to 16 Bit Gems. #RIP
@Exoamylase
@Exoamylase 6 жыл бұрын
Where is Roo?
@Grachtnakk
@Grachtnakk 6 жыл бұрын
God only knows.
@yellowmunchie9823
@yellowmunchie9823 6 жыл бұрын
Such a great series. To bad the channel turned into Clan of the Gay Wolf. Snesdrunk is another great channel that fills the void
@Grachtnakk
@Grachtnakk 6 жыл бұрын
His reviews are very casual though. Half the time you can clearly hear that he's not remotely invested in the topic. When Roo did a video it was something special. Perfect example for that is his Dragon Quest Reteospective.
@Poever
@Poever 6 жыл бұрын
I always get stuck in that “electrical” dungeon that kills you if you don’t have the right armor. Hence I’ve never been able to finish this sucker
@IanThunderbolt
@IanThunderbolt 6 жыл бұрын
You can't be wearing anything metallic at all.
@themblan
@themblan 6 жыл бұрын
I mourn the loss of the ATB System. I prefer it over straight turn-based combat.
@Erk1234567
@Erk1234567 6 жыл бұрын
themblan I say this with the SNES games being my favorite entrees, but I never really "got"the appeal of the atb system. Battles would feel faster and a whole lot snappier if characters didn't have to wait for their actions to queue up. I also don't like to be rushed through a turn in what's supposed to be a game about strategy. I'm not here to say "you're wrong" though, I'm genuinely curious as to what your thoughts are. Addendum: Chrono Trigger and Parasite Eve make great use of ATB, it's also the best part of FFX-2.
@Erk1234567
@Erk1234567 5 жыл бұрын
@HicksZ34 I understand that it makes battles more frantic, especially in active mode, I just don't know if they've ever made battles more FUN for me personally. I think I would be more likely to play in Active mode if I could reorganize the spell list like I could in IV, but feeling pressured to find the right spell in time doesn't do anything for me.
@ArcaneAzmadi
@ArcaneAzmadi 2 жыл бұрын
I never forgave Nintendo and Squeenix (or Squaresoft as they still were back then) for never releasing this game in my territory during the SNES's lifetime. Or III aka. FF VI. Or Chrono Trigger. Or Super Mario RPG. What the hell did they have against Australia anyway?
@VisualOrchestra
@VisualOrchestra 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you get to show just how much the US version was changed to be made much easier and had personal character skills stripped away when compared to the Japanese version. These days, I just play the patched version of FF IV or it is far too easy of a game.
@monkshoodable
@monkshoodable 6 жыл бұрын
I was just discussing this with Matt Barton: I am quite sure that the Final Fantasy title is a rip-off of the NES port of Ultima III, since "Ultima" means "Final." But this is mainly linguistic conjecture: academia has ruined me.
@Djungelurban
@Djungelurban 6 жыл бұрын
Only Actraiser? What about F-Zero then?
@Zanji1234
@Zanji1234 5 жыл бұрын
since FF wasn't available in the EU until FF7 i did play the old ones on emulator way later and actually liked FF4 and 5 kinda more than FF6 :-/ FF2 on the other hand...yeeeah the system was quite off but the story was kinda dark. I mean in a short while the Emperor just destroyed several cities
@ericspratling9252
@ericspratling9252 6 жыл бұрын
Me before watching: "16+ minutes and it's only part one? How could anyone find THAT much still worth saying about the most primitive version of this oft-discussed classic?" Me after watching: "I WAS A FOOL TO DOUBT THE TOASTY ONE"
@johnsimon8457
@johnsimon8457 6 жыл бұрын
oh sure, there's plenty of history. Square was a small company that was perpetually raising their own bar, so some interesting stories and figures came out of it.
@Doritomurderer
@Doritomurderer 6 жыл бұрын
HOISTED
@alexanderwestphal9777
@alexanderwestphal9777 5 жыл бұрын
MY SON
@k2montgomery419
@k2montgomery419 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who prefers I, II, and III more than IV?
@wasthistaken2970
@wasthistaken2970 5 жыл бұрын
$70 upon release....
@dominickk5293
@dominickk5293 4 жыл бұрын
There were no chocobos in FF 1.
@hurktang
@hurktang 5 жыл бұрын
"unless you play at max speed". Wut O.o ? Who don't ?
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 5 жыл бұрын
since most of the games I have as actual cartridges these days are Super Famicom games, and the rest are for a PAL system (As befitting where I've lived in my life - since my original SNES, which was stolen around 1993-94ish, was a PAL model. I learnt about most SNES titles well after the fact, often through emulation in the early 2000's, since getting the real deal was difficult by then, and I was dirt poor for good measure, plus focused on the n64 and PC games for hardware I did actually still own), I have access to final fantasy 5 and 6 as Super Famicom cartridges (not 4 though), and I have to say how unbelievably ugly FF5 (and by the looks of it, 4) actually are in hindsight. Final Fantasy 6 won't win any beauty prizes either for SNES games (unlike Square's own Secret of Mana games, or the likes of Tales of Phantasia, and to a lesser extent, visually at least, Terranigma and Chrono Trigger, say.), but it looks reasonably good for the most part, even if it's a bit rough around the edges in quite a few places. But FFV? Ooh boy is that ugly. Like REALLY ugly. Not consistently, but... Often. And in ways that would not leave all that good of an impression even for an 8 bit system, much less a 16 bit system. One thing you can say about early Square... Their games may have been innovative and genre defining, and fun to play, but they sure weren't lookers... (As an aside on visual appeal, Seiken Densetsu 3 is actually quite ugly when seen through the lens of what most people would experience the game as in the real world - on a CRT television through a composite video connection. However, it becomes truly stunning seen on a system outputting through RGB Scart or something equivalent. Where the likes of Super Mario World and Sonic contain dithering effects that look decent on composite but not so great on RGB, Seiken Densetsu 3 almost looks like it was purpose-made for RGB with the developers not even really thinking about the horrible effect a composite connection would have on the image.)
@jaymesjmathias9390
@jaymesjmathias9390 4 жыл бұрын
"O.G.S" is What ruined&ruins these n all games is cheats, walkthroughs, secrets etc. - KNOWLEDGE!!! That is exactly what takes all edges off these games. If we could take a dumbedDowner pill so as to have that virgin kid feel while playing these, that is exactly what's needed for old guy syndrome.
@geovaughan8261
@geovaughan8261 3 ай бұрын
I’m so confused. I have never seen or heard of Game Dude but his content reads like an intentionally stupid parody of angry game reviews. Is he supposed to be taken seriously?
@charbomber110
@charbomber110 3 жыл бұрын
I hate ATB.
@Ian-ky5hf
@Ian-ky5hf 4 жыл бұрын
Super Mario World was tame? Really. Super Nintendo was very powerful but not perfect.
@Pichuscute
@Pichuscute 4 жыл бұрын
Great video overall, but really tired of seeing FFXIII so ignorantly shit on even all these years later. Final Fantasy as a series deserves better respect than that. Any fan can recognize there was nothing particularly wrong with FFXIII (hence its critical reception) that hadn't been much much more wrong in the series before without major issue (ironically like the linearity mentioned later here). It's just really tiring to see. :/ Just a tangent though.
@JeremyParish
@JeremyParish 4 жыл бұрын
Chill, chief. I reviewed all three FFXIII games professionally and gave them all high marks to brighten up their Metacritic average.
@Pichuscute
@Pichuscute 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeremyParish This is less at you and more in general/at commenters, so just me shouting into the void basically. I understand that it was hardly even a passing statement in your video overall and that this is an older video, too. Your video was definitely still great.
@twowickie
@twowickie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm binging your vids and really enjoying them. This comment is my contribution to the algorithm. Look, YT, I'm engaging. Look at all my engagement!! Show this channel to more people kthxbye.
@indiegod6980
@indiegod6980 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 38 years old. And this was the first RPG I fell in love with. Will always he my favorite in the series. Long live final fantasy 2 in my world anyway lol.
@phuturephunk
@phuturephunk 5 жыл бұрын
40 here. It's a battle between this, III (VI JP) and Chrono Trigger as my favorites. This one was the first love for me though.
@Zedrocksaa
@Zedrocksaa 5 жыл бұрын
Me too dude
@towermoss
@towermoss 5 жыл бұрын
You and me both, brother.
@davidvilchez2209
@davidvilchez2209 4 жыл бұрын
36 and this was my first rpg. Parents got it the year after it came it. I will always prefer this to FF6
@cj694x2
@cj694x2 4 жыл бұрын
@Jessey Lawson Well, actually, if you grew up in the US, then this one is Final Fantasy II. I know this because it says "II" on the box, cartridge, instruction manual, and on the title screen within the game.
@MrJWTH
@MrJWTH 6 жыл бұрын
It may be mentioned in part 2 but the English version of this game was much easier than the Japanese version.
@OrtadragoonX
@OrtadragoonX 2 жыл бұрын
They also rereleased the US version back to Japan as “Final Fantasy IV Easy Type” a few months after the US launch of Final Fantasy II. I feel fortunate in a way. I never played FFII on SNES. My first experience with FFiV was on PlayStation, which is the original JP version with a (admittedly shoddy) English translation.
@samuraian5905
@samuraian5905 2 жыл бұрын
In my youth, I recorded some footage from SNES FFII to introduce kids at school to the 16-bit era. Thanks to the imagery and cinematic nature of the game, some of my classmates said it was like watching a movie. It also taught me what a Paladin is, as the only other reference I had known before was the heart-shield wielding girls of Ultima: Exodus on NES.
@ovinophile
@ovinophile 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed how the party was always determined for you. Kept you from relying on the same strategies and made each section of the story feel unique.
@GeminiJay654
@GeminiJay654 6 жыл бұрын
Where you see suffocating linearity, I find joy in a short, well-told story that more bloated RPGs could take a lesson from. This title doesn't overstay its welcome!
@jonothanthrace1530
@jonothanthrace1530 6 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about it before, but FF4 uses the concept of spell casting times from D&D, and especially the early versions, though it (wisely IMO) doesn't keep the idea of casters wasting their spells if they're attacked before the spell goes off.
@WalrusFPGA
@WalrusFPGA 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent retrospective. I binge watch this channel like most folks do with netflix series. lol. I would have liked to hear more about the soundtrack and details behind it, as its one of the most memorable in gaming to me. Thanks for the light you shine on our retro gaming past.
@WalrusFPGA
@WalrusFPGA 4 жыл бұрын
heh. Just saw this is part of a multi-part series at the end. May have been a bit premature with my above comment ^-^
@NiGHTSnoob
@NiGHTSnoob Жыл бұрын
I actually didn't play FF4 until the Game Boy Advance release. I went straight from NES to N64 in my household since I was actually born the same year as the SNES which may have stifled my parent's finances, so while I played a lot of SNES games at my cousins' place RPGs weren't one of those being longform single player titles. From the viewpoint of someone in the Game Boy era, Dragon Warrior 3 was way better. More challenging, a flexible multiclassing system that required a lot of forethought and came with risks, a large open world with the extremely open ended 6 orbs quest. To me that was the RPG to beat and FF4 was a solid runner up with some clever ideas but a bit too simplistic in comparison, which coincidentally seems to be the Japanese opinion overall too. I ended up much more impressed with Square's 5th and 6th entries adding a lot of the team complexity back in. If only Enix hadn't so completely fumbled their releases and maybe given us DQ3 first in 1989 or passed over DQ2 to give us 3 in 1990 much like Square's decision to leapfrog their own second and third entries they would have had more success in the overseas market. Who can say for sure though?
@lorinatidc
@lorinatidc 5 жыл бұрын
While I loved FF I and been with them since the beginning. . .II/IV is an all time favorite. Music etc, more pure than it's next followup that people give more love to. It got a little ridiculous, although still good. I miss ATB, I dislike job classes being used i other games, I like the revolving characters without the terrible team selection gimmicks of the others bloat. The story was also compelling. Make one good story, leave out the sidequest fluff.
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 Жыл бұрын
Final fantasy has some of my favorite rpg battle music
@jlc992
@jlc992 6 жыл бұрын
While I love the idea overtime I found myself not really enjoy the ATB system as I once did. It made spells a bit less useful than in pure turn base system. Felt Buffs/Debuffs are as useful because of the nature of it wearing off so quickly. And casting damaging spells takes a bit longer than I like so I found myself using more physical attacks with casters because it felt like it is a better use of my time to do it. It's a great idea and happy they thought up a whole new idea of how JRPG plays I just personally enjoy more Wizardry/Dragon Quest style combat over ATB.
@emberleona6671
@emberleona6671 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like the new final fantasy battle system I watched someone else long play ff7 remake on KZbin for a disappointing ending.
@1501SMillard
@1501SMillard Жыл бұрын
My favorite Final Fantasy game.
@brightargyle8950
@brightargyle8950 5 жыл бұрын
FF2 was the first rpg I ever really got into, I loved its story despite it being so linear, at the time it was like playing out a book in a way, it didn't bother me then, and it doesn't bother me now. They really hit a home run with this game in my book!
@Goldnfoxx
@Goldnfoxx 5 жыл бұрын
Again, I know I'm in the minority as a gamer, but except for FF8, FF4 remains my favorite game in the franchise. I think a player's opinion on the game will inevitably be decided by the player's opinion on the story, which at that point in '91, I was 16 and fell in love with this game and these characters. It made a profound enough impact that I still remember that on the same night I got to Palom and Porum turning themselves to stone, my family went and saw Hook in the theater. That I have this memory at all, let alone the emotions that I associate with both, is indicative of the effect they had on me.
@TheGerkuman
@TheGerkuman 4 жыл бұрын
And ATB was that much of a leap forwards that some modern tabletop RPG's either use it, or at least decided to break from the rounds format
@KSlig
@KSlig 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video....funny that there is always the one jerk who has to give it a thumbs down.
@KLGChaos
@KLGChaos Жыл бұрын
When I was a young teen, I had fallen in love with FFVI (III) and my friends kept telling me how good this one was. Problem is, finding it for less than like $80 was a problem. Then one day, my dad and I were at EBGames (that's a blast from the past) and I found a used copy, complete with box and guide, for $15. It was a good day.
@Belgand
@Belgand 10 ай бұрын
The dungeons not making you turn back was such a revelation. I remember the marketing specifically stating that the game was designed around the idea of getting you to the proper level just by playing through it, e.g. the journey to the dungeon will level you up enough to take on the dungeon, fighting through the dungeon itself will have you ready to face the boss. This was a massive contrast to Dragon Quest, which was all about grinding in the same area at length until you tried to see if you were strong enough to move on, as well as the original Final Fantasy. Grinding for stats and money was the name of the game there. I still have memories of how long it took grinding up my party and earning cash for Mythril Swords in order to beat Astos.
@keldonmcfarland2969
@keldonmcfarland2969 4 жыл бұрын
I leveled up every character and got *EVERY* secret and special equipment type. (I shamelessly exploited the error that would give extra equipment between fight scenes.)
@kevinbowyer7205
@kevinbowyer7205 6 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 rep at @13:10
@herrpez
@herrpez 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bowyer Fantastic game!
@jamesmoss3424
@jamesmoss3424 3 жыл бұрын
Final fantasy 2 aka final fantasy 4 is brilliant rpg sequel. 😀👍🎮
@JasonMontell2501
@JasonMontell2501 3 жыл бұрын
What stat determines a characters ability to dodge an attack?
@randysalsman6992
@randysalsman6992 5 жыл бұрын
I never liked ATB so I didn't use it, I always switched it off.
@quacerproductions
@quacerproductions 3 жыл бұрын
2:18 good thing you said this I think that is required by law.
@mullinsjm1
@mullinsjm1 6 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy 4 (2) was the first Final Fantasy I was able to play and complete. It will always hold a dear place in my heart.
@ValkyrieTiara
@ValkyrieTiara 6 жыл бұрын
>No exploration or player agency What? This game has a bunch of hidden stuff that you can only find by ignoring the story and exploring the world. Optional bosses, bonus items, hidden summons, whole side quests... if you just went from story point to story point, I feel like you missed a lot of game here =/
@davidbenson5794
@davidbenson5794 6 жыл бұрын
Compared to I-III (and later V) those are more "embellishments" to an otherwise developer dictated experience.
@JeremyParish
@JeremyParish 6 жыл бұрын
Tiara Azmalan There's not much you can do on the side until the very final run-up to the finale. Visit rebuilt Mist, get trashed by Mad Ogres in the ruins of Eblana, meet a sad blacksmith whose side quest you can't complete until you get to the Moon. Not really a lot of freedom to meander compared to any FF but XIII.
@chriskoschik391
@chriskoschik391 4 жыл бұрын
Playing this on Super NES right now for the first time since it was released. Only played the remakes since then, but it remains one of my favorite games of all time. I turned the battle speed up to maximum for this playthrough and, so far, it is hit or miss on difficulty, but it there have been some random encounters that are definitely tough. None of the bosses are even remotely a challlenge yet. About to storm the tower of Babel after just beating the dolls.
@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o
@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o 4 жыл бұрын
Try FF4 Free Enterprise if you'd like a challenge. It's very easy to configure your difficulty, and with the right flags, you can make it really tough!
@christopherwoodjr235
@christopherwoodjr235 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel yesterday and I really like your videos. Thank you.
@StiffAftermath
@StiffAftermath 6 жыл бұрын
FFII in 2018! Bring out the goods!
@amitavc
@amitavc 6 жыл бұрын
Nice callback to the podcast. :)
@minorfffanatic
@minorfffanatic 6 жыл бұрын
I've been gorging myself on your works series this past week or two and really enjoy it. Keep up the good work!
@SpeedyDePalma
@SpeedyDePalma 6 жыл бұрын
Did all US cartridges of Final Fantasy II have the slab front to them or was there a second release because I've seen some on ebay that have the later cut-out front section and not sure if they're repros.
@jasongarrett768
@jasongarrett768 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure mine has a slab. (my SNES carts aren't close at hand right now)
@michaelmulligan8527
@michaelmulligan8527 6 жыл бұрын
How do you determine what you work on? You've been covering SNES, Gameboy and NES for years now, but I admit I've only been following your channel for a short time. Each video is amazingly produced, even when the game wasn't. Do you just do a bunch of SNES games in a row until you get bored and then switch to Gameboy, or is there a method to the madness?
@jasongarrett768
@jasongarrett768 6 жыл бұрын
They're arranged by chronological release date, with a few special exceptions here and there. NES- and SNESworks are by NA-release dates while GameboyWorks go by Japanese dates.
@Grachtnakk
@Grachtnakk 6 жыл бұрын
Hot damn
@defunctchannel942
@defunctchannel942 6 жыл бұрын
I miss ATB.
@timesink8947
@timesink8947 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best game of all time. Disagree with me to be wrong.
@Doritomurderer
@Doritomurderer 6 жыл бұрын
you go to the moon on a space whale to meet a moon wizard
@SchkuenteQoostewin
@SchkuenteQoostewin 5 жыл бұрын
Okay this criticism is not aimed at Square at all, at Gamers who have a narrow mind set. I have played a number of RPGs from Shogun on Commodore 64 to D&D 5E. The dynamics of role play is undoubtfully one of the cornerstones of the genre. Yet linear story telling is the norm on console. It fine if you like a set procedural timeline where you cannot chart the outcome but as this KZbin has make clear...His view being that dynamics cripple RPGs is false based on facts. Elder Scrolls, Gold Box games like Shattered Suns, and even more modern titles like Pillar of Eternity show that if done with a creative team and good understanding of the engineering these kinds of games can make huge impacts on the genre no matter what platform you are playing on. By the way, Drakhen is a horrid choice when Shattered Suns was out durring the time of Final Fantasy and had advantages in turn that Final Fantasy could not muster till Final Fantasy 5 and not seen a revival of till 10 which is customization of how a character can be tuned. By this time Diablo had all but dominated Final Fantasy and Elderscrolls had alread released Marrowwind proving linear RPGs were not the only way to play RPGs. Just the preferred by casual players.
@sonaleaguetv7747
@sonaleaguetv7747 5 жыл бұрын
I never noticed cure 4 took longer than cure 1...
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