Final Fantasy XIII - Getting Easy Trapezohedrons

Version 2: • Final Fantasy XIII - G...
For some reason annotations are screwed up, but please read the rest of the description for some clarification and error fixes!!
Sorry for the random yawns and such, I was tired and my brain hurt!
So, after killing the Adamantoises for 2 days and only finding 1 Trapezohedron, I decided to experiment and see what happened when you dismantled an ultimate weapon. Turns out, you get Trapezohedrons from the dismantle. Knowing that, I decided to crunch out the math numbers and figure out the exact amount of gil and components necessary to make a Lvl 100 ultimate weapon. Here are my findings:
You will need the following amounts:
1,347,060 gil (this includes everything, even the weapon)
24 Ultracompact Reactors
9 Particle Accelerators
4 Perfect Conductors
203 Sturdy Bones
Please follow the guide exactly as I add things in a specific order to maximize experience.
The return value (keeping the Bones and the Trapezohedrons) is 437,880 gil. This is a nice boost to either start over with another dismantle or upgrading a new ultimate!
To clarify: Yes, there are other ultimate weapons that will net you 3 Traps instead of 2. I did not show this because the return gil on those is only around 200k. So while you only get 1 extra Trap from the dismantle, you get more gil back in return so you can repeat the process and/or get some lost money back.
I did this AFTER beating the game. This part is the last section in CH.12. You can return to this spot after beating Ch13, or run it before if you feel you can kill the tortoise.
As always, if you enjoy this video and want to see more in the future, please rate, comment, and sub!!

[@xzaitdgizs3559]

for anyone watching this even now like i just did also... the malboro wand with the extra debuffing DOES NOT affect your death success rate at all. The way to improve death's success rate is by adding debuffs to the monster like deprotect, curse, deshell, etc. Death has a success rate of 1% base, with vanille alone, you can get 3 debuffs on an adamantoise, bringing it to a 4% chance for success. if fang pitches in as well after the eidolon goes away, she can get another 3 debuffs on the adamantoise, brining it to a 7% success rate :) good luck to any FFXIII fans still playing this amazing game like i am :)

[@RileyTheCharmedOnes]

Thanks for the tips, I just beat the game yesterday, now I am on post-play, still no luck getting the Trapezohedrons *(sigh)*

[@accradata]

Still am right now :)

[@DenarianLord]

You know that if you do this with a Kain's Lance made from a Gae Bolg you get three Trapezohedrons, and 36 Moonblossom seeds, in addition to 71 Gargantuan Claws, 10 Tears of Woe, and 60 Supple Leathers.

[@airmil123]

@BobbyLeshinski IF you notice at the end of the video I come out with 2 Traps, so therefore your point in null. On a second note, if you already KNEW how to get Traps, why Google/KZbin search it in the first place? I had many Traps at the beginning of the video, and didn't even need to make this video but I felt people would like to know an "easier" way to acquire Traps. This is the easiest way I know, so I posted it. Thirdly, 50,00 people liked it, so it appears useful to most people

[@Garudanime]

where do i get Ultracompact Reactors, im at chapter 11 right here just beaten the proudclad for the second time but cant find any Ultracompact Reactors anywhere. i have everything exept those

[@RyutoHigashi]

I had no idea I could just spam death until it hit. I am going to try that right now. All I need is ONE trap, then I can start duping them with the Kain's Lance method. Thx for the vid.

[@airmil123]

If you can kill the blastoise quickly the right way (not using Death) then by all means. This was just a quick guide for how I run this route. My average time in killing the turtle is 2 minutes 19 seconds. I have killed hundreds and hundreds of them, therefore, I have found Death to be the most productive method. Keep in mind that I have Vanille with a maxed ultimate weapon and the Improved Debuffing II really helps for this method.

[@D0ddy321]

For people who want to know how much exp you need to reach the next level you need to know the base exp and the increment exp. for example the bladed lance requires 300xp to get to lvl 2, 357xp to get to lvl 3, so the increment is 57. lvl1 to 2: 300 lvl 2 to 3: 300 + 357 = 657 lvl 3 to 4: 657 + 300 + 57 + 57 = 1071 lvl 4 to 5: 1071 + 300 + 57 + 57 + 57 = 1542 etc.etc. trust me it works

[@BaldwinNguyen]

@SportsNation730 Whistlewind Scarf can be bought from the shop. Aurora Scarf is what you get when you combined Rhodochrosite with a maxed out Whistlewind Scarf. This pretty much gives you a maxed out ATB Gauge at the beginning of a battle every time. Mission 24 is on the Fifth Floor inside Taejin's Tower. I get the mission done under 25 seconds. You re-run mission and it's quick since the mark is right next to the stone. 12000CP + Moonblossom seed sells for 6000Gil.

[@djfubar2008]

Nevermind they can and I noticed that Clay Ring and Earth Charm equiped on Vanille help if they do get the stomp move on u cause it's earth based attack. EarthRing: Occas. Absorbs earth dmg as hp Clay Ring: Incease earth resistance by 30% if stared

[@AWMrocks]

I've been doing this before even watching any vids, I was doing it to farm up CP, since I got growth egg early on. 80k CP every kill and takes around 3 - 5 minutes. I also somehow got two Trap drops in around 20 kills which was insane!

[@xzaitdgizs3559]

Death is like the cheesiest, least successful, slowest way to get platinum ingots and Trapezohedrons XD

[@DixonAsze]

Faster then trying to save up 2,000,000 gill

[@Mortenlejel]

you can use sazh with his hi-piladeas guns and max it out to level 2 tier and use the summon to kill it everytime

[@ASandreassen]

i was wondering what i`m doing wrong becaouse i havent gotten any trapezohedrons and i have vanille`s malboro wand in *. and i have the Connoisseur upgraded to *. and still i dont get the drop. am i just unlucky or is it still something behind it ?

[@spike007980]

@jrconjux Treasure hunter means, you have owned it "Once" it does NOT need to be physically in the party when you (HUGE SPOILER) speak to Bahkti after you think you've owned every item once.

[@airmil123]

@JHgamer101 if you are talking about the one in the description, that is the materials for lvl 1 to lvl 100. It should be everything you'd need

[@airmil123]

@Spright0 I have looked for other ways, but the only way I know how to get a Trap is to kill an Adamantoise, which is only a 1% drop before using the catalog. The only other way is to already have a Trap and then follow this guide.

[@airmil123]

@seanrandalmc I have changed my group up slightly since the video since I have maxed everyone's roles out. I use Lightning's Lionhart ultimate, Fang's Punisher ultimate, and Vanille's Marlboro ultimate.

[@airmil123]

@Garudanime Reactors are bought from the R&D Depot from the shop menu (found at Save Stations). The R&D Depot shop is a reward from completing Mission 7(?) of the Ce'ith Stones on Gran Pulse. Mission 7 may not be correct, though it is one of the lower missions. I'm in my lab right now and don't have the guide in front of me.

[@airmil123]

@finalfan190 You can buy all the experience pieces from the shops, yes. The original Bladed Lance is from the "Up In Arms" store (I think), the Conductors are from the Lonore's, and the Accelerators and Reactors are from the R&D Shop

[@airmil123]

@RP88888 The lowest level Mark Mission that gives Conductors is mission 17 in the Archylte Steppe - Northern Highplain. Mission 31 is the next lowest. A Gold Nugget is a secondary reward from mission 63, but it's easier to just get them from the chests

[@heartlesswizard]

Nicely explained. I personally use SAB/SAB/SYN, and dismiss the Eidolon right away. The debuffs from the second SAB reportedly increase the success rate of Death, and the Synergist should be able to give Vanille Haste and Vigilance. (Vigilance apparently increases the success rate of Death too). If he stands up, I retry. Thanks for the weapon upgrade info.

[@airmil123]

@MinimeDrummerBoi Traps only sell for 10k gil. They allowed you to dismantle weapons to make farming for the rare item easier, but you still need all the gil to upgrade. Essentially, while farming the gil to do the dismantle, your bound to get a Trap which makes the dismantle process void. The dismantle is there for the unlucky

[@CradlenFlames]

I had to come here in false hopes that watching you get some traps, might help me turn on my xbox again to play this horrid farm fest again. After 30 more adamants and no drops I shall be back on here again!

[@xLightning16x]

btw, the only weapons you can get 3 traps are all of fang's weapons EXCEPT bladed lance, and partisan; and you can get 3 traps from vanilles tigerclaw, healers staff, belladonna wand, and as mentioned before, the mistilteinn. And no i didnt do all of these in the game, i jus did some research and bought the guide.

[@AirforceAce7]

Anyone whos wondering about death spam, if youd like to use that as your start point, the best way to do it is this. upgrade vanille's belladonna wand to malboro wand and equip it get vanille, sazh and fang in party setup SAB/SYN/SAB set this as your primary paradigm Start the battle and summon your eidolon click through everything, and have it use its ultimate spam death on the turtle whilst your allies buff you and debuff the turtle, this increases deaths chance of working.

[@airmil123]

@SportsNation730 Doesn't matter. Both Blastoises (in Gran Pulse and Eden) have a standard 1% drop rate - which increases based on combat performance and accessory modifiers. So, doesn't matter where you farm just that you're killing Adamantoise (tusks), not Adamantortoise (no tusks)

[@JonSchaffer57]

@DHGcontended What I meant by the strategy is the one the video outlines. The idea ov dismantling weapons to get Trapezohedrons. I'd welcome, with open arms, the infinite digging glitch with the chocobo.

[@airmil123]

@seanrandalmc Both weapons are found in Ch. 12 The Lionhart can be found on the Grand Prix Circuit (where you are after the cutscene). Run straight ahead until you see a wall, the chest is behind the wall and you should be able to see it from where you are. The wall is before the circle platform with the mech fight. The Punisher is in the Rumah Interchange (just after the Expressway and Circuit Track) directly after you kill the turtle, before you reach the Humbaba.

[@seanrodger]

Any tips on gown to get an easy amount of gil without relying on adamantoise dropping a platinum ingot?

[@airmil123]

@AMPBrian Dunno, can you? I only went with what I know, took some advice from the comment here, and made v2 with the Dragoon Lance. If you can use 32 Shells, by all means. They are only used to get the x3 bonus, so feel free to use whatever to get to that x3. It won;t change the math for the Reactors/Accels/Conductors.

[@ZombieSongstress]

@ClearPearl It's the transformation catalyst that makes all the characters ultimate weapons.

[@airmil123]

@BigJoeFro While you do get more traps, your gil return is only about 220k, half of the return of this way.

[@EvilFefe]

If you dismantle The Nirvana (Vanilles ultimate weapon) You get 3 Trapezohedrons

[@Gonzo0102]

If you upgrade the Pandorian Spear to Kain Lance (star level) , and then dismantle it youll get 3 Trapezohedron´s insted of 2. O and thanks for doing this video n.n

[@slotho69]

Sturdy bones, barbed tails and vibrant ooze all have the same stats/cost for upgrading, so if you buy 72 of each you don't have to exit the screen so often. Tigerclaw, Healer's Staff, Mistilteinn, Belladonna Wand, Dragoon Lance, Shamanic Spear, Punisher, Pandoran Spear, or Gae Bolg all dismantle into 3x traps instead of 2 for not too much more in components. Also if your doing it for the treasure hunter trophy its better to just farm the traps, because you need the gil for ugrading items

[@ASandreassen]

what am i doing wrong? i have Connoisseur upgraded to * and malboro wand upgraded to *. i have killed about 40-50 adamtoises and still no trapezohedron..

[@Serriss]

once you get sick of farming for trapezohedrons, if you have a spare genji glove that you dont use you can upgrade it to star lvl and then dismantle it to get a trapezohedron and a tear of woe (dont care about that though haha) hope this helps.however i wouldn't suggest you do it to more than one genji glove as you can only get three and you should have 2 for your main damage dealers.

[@fromseedstogiants]

this reli helped me cos i've leveled up ALL the 2nd tier weapons to star level and no matter how many times i kill these things all i get is ingots or nothin even conn and collector catalogs just goes to show that patience is vital

[@airmil123]

@EnoxXxon Correct, you do not gain the ability to upgrade items until the later half of the game

[@airmil123]

@Dkbiggs81 EVERY weapon requires a different amount of exp in order to level up. Doing this on a different weapon may yield different results (not level up enough or use up extra exp and gil). Also, everything dismantles into different items or amounts of items.

[@airmil123]

@deadsamurhai The math in this video is only for the specified weapon. While you can do this type of thing for each weapon, they will yield different results (items received) and require a different combination of materials.

[@Agbarable]

He has, and so have I. The route he uses has you kill 3 packs to get your TP back, using Fang's ultimate weapon with TP gauge on it. The packs take 20-30 seconds each, and after 3 you have all the TP you need to reset and try again so long as you have the Aurora Sash on. It's really not that bad using death on them, it normally will die before it's able to stand back up after you take out it's legs with her Eidolon, and if it doesnt you just hit start and retry it.

[@airmil123]

@eldiablosrojo I got the idea from the guide, but since not everyone has the guide, I made this. Sure, there are better ways to do it but this was my first run since people wanted to see this right away

[@madangel1992]

ATTENTION!!! These weapons will yield 3 Trapezohedrons Kain's Lance- Dragoon Lance, Shamaniac Spear, Punisher, Pandoran Spear, and Gae Bolg Nirvana- Tiger Claw, Healer's Staff, Belladona Wand, Mistiltienn

[@airmil123]

@ramennoodelz you don't have to be in Eden, Pulse works, I just found it easier to gain TP in Eden. Sure, there are ways to kill the Turtles without using the Eidolon, in which case Pulse may be better, but I didn't do that in these vids

[@Macsly56]

Hey good strategy. This has helped me a lot to get Ingots. Also the upgrading and dismantling thing worked like a charm. And even if the death spell doesn't work, it's a good way to stagger him up so you can chop him down. A thing that helped me is when casting death, as soon as it hits, switch to the paradigm you want so you don't have to go through that annoying pose stuff.

[@zhargard]

I found on another guide that doing that to Vanille's weapon Mistilteinn it can wield you 3 Traps instead of two, but it costs 1,507,400 gil plus that trap to do it

[@Magic_beans_]

@iCantSay - The amount of each item you get increases as the item's level increases. If you dismantled a basic Kain's Lance, you'd get one or no Traps, so you'd lose money overall. Generally, it's only worthwhile dismantling *-level gear; for anything lower, you may as well just sell the weapon or accessory. That said, in most cases you'll spend more upgrading the weapon from Lv.1 than you'd get for dismantling it. Airmil123's video demonstrates a rare exception.

[@IanSnowden]

Max Role LVL 5 helps build the chain gauge toward stagger faster. I didn't have it though. I managed to kill it within 3 tries by debuffing and fast staggering. This strategy is soo fast that you get about 3 chances to death it while its staggered. That's the key point. Don't depurpose death by trying to buff yourself. Think only about what effects death the most. In other words chance to hit.

[@IanSnowden]

GUESS WHAT! I figured out the perfect strategy for farming those! This is the earliest possible and absolute easiest method. Here is what you do get Lightning Ultima Weapon (Fast Stagger), Vanille Marbora Wand Maxed (Improved Chance of Death Hitting) Use 1 single paradigm, Assasination. You want vanille as saboteur and lightning as ravager. I had fang as sabotuer but that doesn't matter unless she has imperil. If she doesn't just use any other character as ravager.

[@IzuraKira]

@BobbyLeshinski Nope, Long Gui appears when you complete missions 56 to 62 (that "weather ring" or something on the northeastern part of the Archylte Steppe, near the entrance to the path that leads you to the Faultwarrens). It'll replace the Adamantortoise and Adamanchelid (or another turtles, I don't remember who were there) on the Eastern Torns of the Archylte Steppe (Near from where you fight the Gigantuar -giant cactuar lol-)

[@Lexesbenz]

I use com/com/sab. Vanille as my sabotuer, I also have the aurora scarf on vanille which allows an automatic first strike, so as a sabotuer the first thing she does is cast deprotect on one of them, then snow and fang can kill them all within three hits each. Give it a shot and see if it works for ya!

[@Magic_beans_]

@R3b3lAp3 - Vanille learns Death at Stage 9 of her Crystarium. She's the only one who gets that spell. The weapon (Belladonna Wand / Malboro Wand / Nirvana) has an "Improved Debuffing" attribute; as the author mentioned, Death has a base success rate of 1% (plus 1% for each add'l debuff on the target), so it's hard to tell if having that staff helps, but it's a very useful weapon either way.

[@airmil123]

@quad123 Every weapon requires a different amount of XP to level. So while you will use the same "ingredients" to level every weapon, the combination of those items will be different.

[@airmil123]

@xXDarkAce93Xx Like most have said, you can dismantle a Genji Glove in order to get your first Trap. I chose the catalog method because there are a finite number of Gloves in the game and dismantling is a permanent decision

[@drkcrstl]

i have tried this and it worked pretty well for me : - unlocked the long guis. - killed them for trapozehedrons. optional - not strong ? use cheap poison methods + summon easy ! each trapozehedron has around 30% to drop. i got 2 with , like , 6 kills

[@JonSchaffer57]

@DHGcontended To close my comment. What I meant to say at the end, was that it seems pointless to have levels if you just start out at some higher number than level 1. I mean, why not just call the level you start at level 1, and have it max out earlier? The experience could still work out the same, the level numbers would just make more sense.

[@airmil123]

@UltimaChaos29 With the low drop rates of Traps, as well as their high cost, the 'easiest' way I've found to get 'mass' quantities of them is this: by farming up money and dismantling weapons which yield one or more Traps all for a cost that is cheaper than just buying one Trap.

[@Garudanime]

@mitttyz lol why not, i still havent finished it im at the beginning of chapter 13 got my ultimate weapons now and like 2000 AT/MA on each char + 10,000 HP, iwarped back to pulse to do the big missions ^^ i want to continue with the story too but i want some items badly before i do (like x2 CP Growth Egg)

[@D0ddy321]

Sorry I got that wrong i said it was lvl 1 to 2, 2 to 3 and so on, but it is actually 1 to 2, 1 to 3, 1 to 4 etc. in small the equation for the bladed lance fron lvl 1 to ? is: exp + 300 + (57*current lvl) for each one.

[@dirtyharry8304]

dude i tried so many times in pulse on the adamantoise like 50 times no trapez i got 9 plat ingot. but sadly no trapez dam it. is this better?

[@tdotkemp]

@Haijinmon the traps only sell for 10,000…usually whatever price you can buy something for is twice what you can sell it for but not in this case..i was blown too cause i was gonna use the extra trap to sell and max out another weapon

[@MusicMan0985]

A tip on the Vanille Death spam for the Adamontoise. The SYN Vigilance buff makes Death have a better hit ratio. Also I use the BOOST Synthesis group to get more casts in. Herme's Sandals, Sprint Shoes, Wistlewind Scarf, etc. to get +20% faster ATB recharge on top of Haste. (More casts more success) Also, I Dismantle Nirvana for 3 Trap's.

[@IanSnowden]

Manually use deshell and imperil 5 times each. Then death death death. You will notice that every few battles you will successfully death it in eden hall after its staggered. So to recap. Assasination or extra ravager. (Fast Stagger) (Improved Debuffing II) (Manually Deshell + Imperil with Vannille) (Death Repeatedly) = Favourable rate of Success. I got a trapezohydron after killing it twice which only took 6 battles total! Make sure you have the catalogs on your 3rd character of your choice.

[@ZWraiths]

@Noiraven1 OBJECTION- also to the maker of this video!!!! lolz heres why: if u use 1 of so many components you should get x2 and then deal with the x2 EXP "Why?" because you use less gil buy all the components and u get 3 trapezohedron. Thank you ^^

[@MusicMan0985]

@SimplyBlue86 I did not know this. Also I find TP Raising Items (Energy Sash, Champions Belt) to help for getting the 3 TP needed to summon Hector or w/e his name is...

[@airmil123]

@vin22kevin Having the Tier 3 weapon has nothing to do with Death's Proc rate (Vanille's T2 and T3 weapon both have debuffing x2, not x3). The only place to get Traps is to kill the Adamantoise or spend 2mil gil. Death isn;t the only way, no...and I made a video (3 actually) showing various ways to kill them. and my HP was because I was high in the Crystarium (stage 10). Death was simply the easiest way to kill them at the time...its by no means the only way.

[@yummychick3ns]

dismantling to get trapez is indeed a nice way to obtain more. great job! i'm just shocked that within 2 days only 1 dropped for you =[

[@razanehj27]

@manuelsuperhandsome yes after u reach orphans cradle youll can teleport back to either edenhall or gran pulse...you can also do this after you beat the game

[@airmil123]

@Kaous10 yes, all the weapons that are upgraded have to start, at some point, in there base, lvl 1, form

[@Tony_ATP]

@levintine777 Buy them from R&D Depot (complete mission 7). The stone for mission 7 can be found at some ruins at the far end of Gran Pulse. Also, if u fix up Botti in Fang and Vanille's village, he gets u 2 free ones.

[@airmil123]

@Spright0 Yeah, that a long story that involves me being entirely stupid. I have it now and it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I captured a video of me getting it but wasn't going to post it because the battle was so quick now that I'm so high in levels. If people want to see it though, I'll post it

[@Auroralights321]

Lol I find it funny that the rate of killing this thing with death is higher than getting the damned Traps...at least that's how it's been for me. I've killed this thing using this strat so many times, and I wonder if I keep resetting every time I don't see a Trap; if that's going to help any.

[@airmil123]

@Dkbiggs81 yes, you can recreate the ultimates you dismantle

[@Vanisdagreatest]

FINALLY got my trapezehedron. The malboro weapon for vanille return 3 trapezehedrons instead of 2 . However you will only get back about 230,00 GIL, Personally i find that trapezehedrons are more valuable to me but if you aer starving for dough you should use this guy's method. Btw 'Death' improves with the amount of debuffs on the adamantoise so instead of just using 'Death' as he did and restarting when your eidolon goes away have fang debuff and death goes up

[@airmil123]

@locoroco211 The turtles appear in Ch 11(?) first i believe. I know there are some in Ch. 12 and you can return to the spawn places after you beat the game. I can't check the first time you see them for sure, as I'm in New Orleans for the 4th of July (American). I think its Ch. 11 though.

[@airmil123]

@Noiraven1 I got a Trap after my 6th kill. My second Trap from a Toise came after my 142nd kill. My third was the 178th kill, and the fourth was my 406th kill. Needless to say, I got the majority of my Traps from upgrading and dismantling ultimate weapons

[@airmil123]

@lightfire060 The Blastoise name shall catch on!!! The drop rate varies depending on what accessories are equipped and others have said differently, however I checked the Guide this morning, and for a Blastoise in Eden Plaza (ie the one is this video) the drop rate of a Trap is indeed 1% with no other external buffs. Equip a Conn catalog asap if you have one or upgrade to one right away. It does make a difference in my experience.

[@Vanisdagreatest]

@libraman187 you can try getting a conneisour catalog but that doesn't improve it that much. It is just luck just keep killing and you WILL get it. When you do use vanille's belladonna wand not fang's weapon it growths 3 trapezedhedrons instead of 2

[@SPAC3FoX]

@SimplyBlue86 Not sure on this... but.. if you do this, your TP won't go up and you won't be able to summon again. Right?

[@ItsBumblebe]

uuh,yeah you could just go to creature comforts and buy a load of 80 gil stuff,I mean if you put 25 or 26 of anything onto your wep the exp multiplier goes up,so just get it to times 3 with 80 gil stuff then put the really expensive stuff that gives you a ton of exp,that way your getting the most out of all your components when upgrading

[@abbfred3956]

10 hours in. Still not a single trap. Best game ever

[@MAGNAVIX]

@TerrarumRaven Do you use Fang? If she casts Curse on the Neochu, it greatly increases the success rate of Death. The Malboro Wand also does too. If you don't have the Malboro Wand, it is tier 2, upgraded from Belladonna Wand, available at Plautus's Workshop. It's catalyst is Scarletite, which drops from Sacrifice at Orphan's Cradle Tessaracts pretty often.

[@Mortenlejel]

I have discovered that if you equip both catalog and connosseur catalogs on all your party members u have a great chance for the adamantoise to drop a trapezehedron. I manage to earn 7 trapezehedrons in 50 kills. thats 14 % drop of trapezehedrons. Thats the first time i have got so many traps so little time. Dont know if i was lucky or not, but the traps kept on rolling in.

[@airmil123]

@SquallArgonar94 you can visit about 90% of the game after beating Ch.13, so yes you can come back

[@airmil123]

@AniChilli 1% standard drop rate FTL unfortunately. The catalog and that jazz boosts the rate to a maximum of like ~3% (at best). Getting the first one is (usually) very painful, grinding wise.

[@MAGNAVIX]

@TerrarumRaven You don't need two medics if you have a sentinel present. Try using the Paradigm Attrition, Vanille as SAB spamming death, Hope as MED healing Fang, and Fang as SEN drawing the attention of the tiny Neochus and the Neochu itself. Be sure to use a Fortisol and an Aegisol before entering the fight with Neochu. If you don't have any, Eden Pharmaceuticals sells each for like 12k a piece.

[@Hyunkle]

@cnote181 it works with both vanille's and fang's weapons, altho only 4 weapons of each character gives the 3 trapo (wand gives 3 when tier3 maxed)

[@airmil123]

@oskysum All 8 versions of each characters Omega weapons are called the same thing. All of Fang's are Kain's Lance.

[@ZennExile]

@airmil123 You can turn 1 trap into 3 trap for 1.5m gil. 1 trap is 2m. 3 trap is 6m. That's a much larger return than 220k. And your strat here is very slow. You are using fully upgraded end game characters. I'm killing the Adamantoise in less than 2 minutes on chapter 12 with teir 2 weapon. And the fastest way to kill the soldiers is using Cerberus with Fang Snow Lightning.

[@airmil123]

@1nashtyfan you can go almost anywhere that wasn't destroyed after you beat the game

[@airmil123]

@Pierzchal91 This section is technically CH.12, however this was filmed after I had beaten the game

[@MilfanitoX]

@rnisphd unless if youre going for the Treasure hunter and you've upgraded their star level, don't sell anything EVER. it wont give much gil anyways so just keep everything

[@airmil123]

@killerducky420 to buy them, you have to have R&D Depot which is a reward from a Ci'eth Stone mission

[@JonSchaffer57]

@DHGcontended I'll look more into that next time I upgrade a weapon. A quick save will make it clear. Save, upgrade by blasting WAY to much into the weapon first, and once again by doing just enough to get the upgrade. As for now, I'm just happy to have gotten my catalyst needed for the ultimate weapons. I stumbled upon this while trying to see if there was another way to get them besides buying or getting them as a drop... honestly this strat. is in the guide, but it should definitely be seen

[@burch0413911]

When you use the sturdy bones, sometimes it will go to the x3 multiplier if you add 35 instead of 36. I think its every 6 cycles of using sturdy bones. I figure it would save you a couple thousand gil

[@audace13]

Dude, thanks for that, it's great. But you forgot to mention the single most important thing: to follow your plan, you ALREADY need to have a trapezohedron!! So if you dont have one (like me), you're screwed. I need to find a way to get the first trapezohedron without killing 20,000 turtles...

[@airmil123]

@dorkymiyoshi Yes, any Adamantoise can drop them, this is just the easiest to reset your TP on (that I have found).

[@BryanScott09]

I got a question. I'm near at the end of the boss and none of my characters have any 3rd tier weapons. I don't know what happen to all of my Trapezohedron but their gone. Now i beat this monster but i never got anything in return. I even used the catalog and got nothing. What i'm i doing wrong?

[@Gerardolio]

if your trying to get shrouds they're drops are opposite on how many stars you get at the end of the battle. Meaning getting 0-1 stars give you over a 10% chance for shrouds with survivalist catalog and getting 4-5 stars will not give you any shrouds

[@cannnonfoddder]

@sonofsparda1981 He has a fully upgraded Tier 3 weapon.