Final thoughts on the 2023 Suzuki GSX-8S // PROS & CONS

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Final impressions on the Suzuki GSX8S!
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[@user-jd4ez1is4b]

Just ordered a black one! Regarding the price, yes there is an initial difference of £1000 but, with the Hornet, after adding the quick shifter @ £250 AND another £250 for an extra years warranty to match the 8S (Hornet only has 2 years as standard) you are only £500 apart. Also, as long as you get the 8S serviced by Suzuki, you can maintain the warranty up to 7 years / 70k miles!!!

[@marksimpson5218]

Great choice, Suzuki have done a good job with this bike.

[@photographerjonathan]

I would never buy an extended warranty. the odds of a Japanese bike having some kind of problem in the first few years are so slim. but if you want help justify the price by adding a warranty into the equation that is up to you. I think the GSX 8s is nice and I don't think it needs justification when buying one. but it is a shame that it's so much more than the Honda Hornet. which is also 10 more hp. but it seems like Honda priced it to sell. and will probably sell allot more than the Suzuki, I was considering buying one of them. until I came across a 2017 Ducati 939 Supersport with 2159 km on it and it looks like new. for less money than the Hornet. and I couldn't be happier with it.

[@user-jd4ez1is4b]

@@photographerjonathanI made no mention of buying an extended warranty as I agree with your comments on reliability. The 8S comes with a 3 year warranty and if you have it serviced by Suzuki the warranty continues up to 7 years / 70k miles.

[@vonsarg]

I've ridden mostly Yamahas over the last few yrs mt07 and mt09 looking for a change,had a test ride on the new hornet but could not get on with the engine braking and throttle so the Suzuki is next on the list for a test ride

[@florme6494]

@@vonsarghow’d you go on the test ride on the GSX-8S?

[@stevethomas6479]

Been out of biking 15 years bought a Cbr650r a month ago took my wife out on it she fell in love with biking I’ve traded the Honda in after 3 weeks & pick a gsx8 up 28th July I hope she likes that better on the back Your reviews are brilliant keep up the good work 👍

[@barney3417]

Hi Kate, I rode the Hornet and the S8 back to back 3 weeks ago, while the price difference is an issue I much preferred the S8 to ride, the looks are better too, for me!! I also felt the Hornet's quality was not as good which came as a surprise.. a swing arm that looks like its off a 125. and the frame and subframe joints looked cheap and old fashioned .. bought an S8 in Blue last week!!! Stay safe ..

[@ak-47821]

how's the bike now? please give us an update. thanks and ride safely.

[@barney3417]

Done just over 1000 miles, fitted heated grips ,a tail tidy, belly pan and seat cowl , love it to bits , quick shifter is a lot better with some miles on it, took off a bit of preload, it pulls like a train from nowhere!! the only issue is I let my wife, who has a Kawasaki Z650 have a go, mistake, she's trading that in for one too!! @@ak-47821

[@kuso3079]

Us can't even get the hornet...booo.

[@TheBez1965]

Great review Kate

[@paulconnell1309]

Thanks again for a couple of great reviews Kate, and for responding to my comment. I am now the proud owner of a black GSX 8S. Loving it already.

[@MrPsg1969]

Great review Kate. Honest & frank assessment. Great job 👏

[@iainf6]

Great job Kate 👍

[@CraftyMrRyan]

I've had this bike for roughly a week now and completed just over 400 miles. (I've got it in black). I love that the power is available at almost any revs in most gears.. it's effortless. The whole bike feels solid which seems to give it a premium feel. Completely agree with the comment of not being able to rotate the bike on the side stand! I failed at this today... I've not experienced the wind issue while at 'motorway speeds'. I'm 5ft11 85kg and have been riding in windy conditions. The only negative I have so far is that the bike is quiet.. The exhaust sounds good, it's just very muted and you can't hear it at all over 50mph so only really get to enjoy the sounds at lower speeds. It's difficult to get any customisation done yet, as there aren't many aftermarket options out. Saying that, I've just purchased a tail tidy and I'm waiting for the exhausts to be released.

[@fr00fro]

there are my friend. You can now get a full road legal exhaust system from Arrow ;)

[@elekkr]

Get yourself a radio for the kitchen and enjoy the sounds there

[@amandataylor6025]

Great review

[@pistolpete6321]

Great video!

[@dangrove6562]

After not having rode a bike for 10+ years im getting the itch again! Liking the look of this bike having previously owned a Gsxr 600, fancy a naked bike now. Great to see your views on it 👍

[@TheHdleif]

Good one Kate, it look like a great bike.

[@EBthere]

Excellent review. I enjoyed it.

[@user-pg2bj7rv1t]

I have a 2018 GSX250R that I like very much. I live in a rural part of Oregon that has NO Freeways. A few Months ago, I visited a Suzuki Dealership near Portland, and had a chance to sit on an 8s. It fit me like a glove! I turn 70 next Month and am still able to ride; So I'm seriously considering trading my 250 for one these!

[@HippoDrones]

Great to hear your thoughts on the bike Kate, and well done for braving the weather... especially in jeans! 😀 Hahaha 😀 Glad the weather picked up a bit for a while at least. There are not many bikes currently that do anything for me, but this is one that does intrigue me... especially in the baby blue... it surprised me you didn't like the blue one.

[@marcbrasse747]

Overall the concensus seems to be it is a more harmonious bike then the Hornet. One should probably see it as a good, somewhat more upmarket, inhouse alternative to the still relevant SV650.

[@NooBiker]

Nice one, Kate

[@spudflap]

Great review, thanks. Regards the weaving, as someone has already said, maybe that bodywork around the front end has some effect. Also, as you will know, tyre pressures can have an effect too, but I'm sure you checked those!. Also, I think to some extent it's a naked bike thing, as they don't tend to put a lot of weight over the front. If it's any consolation, my Guzzi V7 feels very flighty at the front when it's windy, even moderately windy...

[@Theorangeman.]

Kate get yourself a rainseal pro over jacket. Absolutely amazing

[@nickfunnell9600]

Test rode one yesterday morning and it really surprised me. Compared to my GSXS750 it had so much low down grunt. And it felt so light!!! When i got back to the dealer I ordered one in white (really liked the all blue one but someone in my village has that one). Ordered a tail tidy and a rear seat cowl. Got to wait 2 weeks now 😢 on

[@UsernameKate]

Don't wanna wish your life away but I hope time flies for you! 😁🤣

[@kuso3079]

I still have a week before I just roll the dice between the white with blue, or matte black with blue accents. Can't decide except the matte black is gonna be hot, but it looks dang ninja . I almost want to say how gorgeous your country roads are. Very jealous.

[@djgeneticdisorder]

I love this bike its the perfect bike for my useages and purposes

[@eastman40]

I have started from Honda 110 CC to Honda VTR250 to Honda CB600F to Ducati Monster 650 to Now Suzuki SV650 Full Power. I did not like it in the beginning as have always been a Honda or a Ducati fan but I must say that now I do Love my Suzuki SV650 FP. Have done some modifications to it which made it more awesome like Tail Tidy, RandG Knobs, Side Fairings, Mini Fairing, LED Indicators and a Yoshimura Slip On plus that Special Seat. I was so looking forward to buy this Bike but I hate most of the Bikes getting more Plasticky at their front which rattles after some time and even a minor drop can mess it up. By the way, so love your way of speaking. ❤

[@charleshoward1475]

Hello Kate. I appreciated watching Your review. I have one in blue, and have covered nearly 1000 mls upon it. I have ridden it in all weathers, including fairly high wind. An interesting observation you mentioned. I was in something of rush the other day, and after passing safely around other motor vehicles I increased my road speed further when at a certain point the machine felt a little unstable, it wasn't at all pleasant. The first occasion it ever felt anything but so sure footed, I should add it was gusting quite strongly at the time, and this road is known for occasional strong side wind. Interesting watching and listening to you ride there. I feel there's a potential issue with my model, in that it will not ride seemingly smoothly down in the revs as you were demonstrating clearly here. I believe it could possibly be balance chain tension, ie slack. The engine also seems to noticeably make a clicking noise when picking up revs from around 3000rpm. I mentioned this at dealer first service, but felt it was ignored. Would love some info on possible balance chain adjustment procedure if any person could help please. Thank You for the great content.

[@UsernameKate]

Thanks Charles, I think the general consensus was that I was making it up so its nice to hear that I'm not crazy 🤣 it's weird because I experienced the front end weave and then in similar conditions at other times when I still had it, it was fine! Might impacted by wind direction, possibly too!

[@andrewprice1189]

Poor Lassie, you must have been well soaked! Another fantastic Vlog, you killing it! Only neevesys opinion i respect more

[@scottfinlayson5446]

I have a GSX-S 750 and it has the windy day problem you described. I don't worry about it as it only occurs on motorways.

[@robgoldthorpe6339]

Mines the same too. I think it's the rear shock being fairly budget to be fair. Wakes you up when it happens though!

[@hoihoihoi1951]

I have a gsx-s 750 as well and I don't have the problem...

[@envlog0110]

love suzuki

[@paulredding5864]

Rather you than me in that weather Kate, paid my dues with that stuff back in Yorkshire in the 70s on my CB250 then CB 750/4, 5 winters freezing hands. Just picking up my K1300S and will be warm weather only from now on down here in SW France

[@VStrom2019]

There is no question whatsoever, your reviews are the best you can get. You can hear the sincerity, riding ability is top notch and your opinions are so genuine. Thank you Kate from the bottom of my heart 👍👍

[@rob.fisher]

Peak design phone mount 👌 Do you do a review of these somewhere or just a personal choice?

[@aapddd]

Proper English weather 🌧️

[@paulfowler6665]

I bought a Hornet before this came out and a few months later still think it was the right decision. I wanted a fun budget middleweight and you can't beat it for value for money. This is a grand more putting it only just under a grand off a street triple. It's all very well saying this has a quick shifter but you can have just as much fun on the Hornet without it if money is tight and add one later. You can't take it off this and get it cheaper. Having said that I do prefer the looks of this but not in white and it badly needs a tail tidy.

[@Trevster65]

Hi Kate, I have the white one and have ridden motorway in very high winds and cross winds with no issues. Be interesting to see if anyone else experienced what you felt. I love this bike.

[@paulconnell1309]

Test rode a black one in strong winds on a motorway and did not notice anything with the front wheel.

[@EUKBIKER]

Sounds like a good bike for the money

[@deanskirrow]

I own an 8S and daily it, I have ridden it in very bad conditions and not experienced any weave, one consideration is if you were slightly tense in the arms this could cause similar to what you described.

[@UsernameKate]

Yea, the wind was pretty strong so I was defo clinging on! But I've clung on with other bikes in similar conditions and not experienced it. Lillie could physically see what I was describing when I told her what I was experiencing. I suppose being very light won't help the situation! 🤣

[@stephenpotts8170]

Hi Kate, enjoyed your review, and that weave you mentioned you experienced on a windy motorway, you didn't say if you had been carrying any luggage, because I have heard of similar with naked bikes especially when carrying large roll bags with a light rider causing a weave at 80 ish mph.

[@MrStew006]

As regards the weaving you look very light and many years ago in my teens I was under 9 stone and this may be part of the issue. 😊

[@frankraw9991]

Could be that someone wheelied your test bike and when they slammed it down the ball-race head bearings (if it has them?) made indentations in the bearing track? This, or over-tight steering head bearings could cause the weaving. I enjoyed watching the video. Think I'll be keeping my Tracer 700 which I bought from Chorley Yamaha near to where you were testing the Suzuki. Happy riding.

[@supergem7093]

Great vid Kate, the Hornet is top dollar,Honda quality,safe riding babes 👍

[@davidtait7407]

Hi Kate,..I had a test ride on the GSX 8S about a month ago , and in good conditions gave it a good work out for an hour and never found any handling problems at any speeds, just my guess I’m 100kg so perhaps the absence of weight made it a little flighty for you at higher speeds. Secondly in 30 years of riding many bikes , moving a bike I always sit on the thing to move it . Rather do that than making a buffoon of myself getting unbalanced and dropping it 😢. Dave

[@arnohag1]

😅😅

[@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider]

got to love the Gore-Tex trousers during those wet days, Have a great pair from Rev'it which have large vents on the thighs allowing a good flow of air inside on the warm days, ugh.... couldn't think of anything worse than wet jeans against my skin, especially with my sensory issues and clothing. Does the TFT dash allows Bluetooth connectivity, is there a Suzuki app for navigation through the screen via mobile like the BMW has?

[@kerouacist]

Greetings from Sydney, Australia Kate. I like the GSX8S but the GSXS750 has more mongrol to it. It has a more visceral appeal and looks aggressive.

[@denlsgoulden2307]

How about doing vids on the new Triumph 400 soon as available and perhaps the BSA 650 Goldstar, would be interesting to hear your views 🤔😊

[@UsernameKate]

I've asked about the triumphs, I think its gonna be December before KZbinrs can get our grubby mitts on them

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

Moin. You can get a puig downforce spoiler for the bike. Cheers 😀

[@kdsowen2882]

Dedication Kate , weather looks rubbish . Dave NZ

[@chema1546]

Ok 👏🎉

[@MrBottomrung]

Having ridden the Hornet and the GSX back to back for an afternoon I found the Hornet to be a much better bike. Yes the Suzuki has definitely more torque lower down but in the end the Hornet for me was better in every other way. Plus far more exciting to ride. You do notice the power difference and the Suzuki felt tame in comparison running out of puff to soon.

[@paulconnell1309]

Brilliant final thoughts, love these videos, thanks. If you were getting a bike for a year would you take the Hornet or the 8S and why?

[@paulconnell1309]

PS, having riden both bikes I agree on the Hornet's snatchy throttle. The Hornet also chugs quicker if you let the revs drop towards 2,000. Regrettably the test ride was too short and congested so no sense of cornering stability, etc. Love to hear your thoughts. Also suspension damping comparisons. Loved the GSX. I think the Suzuki naked bikes are windier than others. Somehow they do not get the wind flow as clean as their peers, including Honda. Also looks are challenging for the GSX in my view, but hey bikes are made to be ridden.

[@UsernameKate]

I think the GSX8S just marginally pips it for me, but Mike would choose the Honda.

[@WyreForestBiker]

I would suspect the large side pods could cause the weave in windy conditions? ... no more than a guess but it seems possible to me ?

[@brianm1491]

Hi Kate wots the make of the jacket your wearing

[@arnohag1]

My only gripe is that at 183cm it's a bit small in the seating arrangement. My bum is in the space between the seats on the hard divide. I guess I could have padding added there. Great bike to ride, very easy for return riders etc.

[@laurahancock3077]

How do you find the legroom? Knee cramps?

[@arnohag1]

@@laurahancock3077 The leg position, seat and handlebars are in a good triangle for comfort. The sports seat is too short and if longer would be great. It is a peach to ride.

[@marcbrasse747]

I wonder if the current fashion for long ears sticking out besides / in front of forks have anything to do with the weaving. They must become an aerodynamic factor at certain circumstances, like irregular crosswinds. You being light compared to the motorcycle could indeed make that more critical.

[@damon1957ful]

Hi kate i have no issues with handling or weaving at speeds , very planted in corners, and feels more stable and better power delivery than the others like the hornet i tested, had the 8s now 4 weeks chuffed with it , much better quality than the hornet which feels flimsy in comparison even to my cb650r, i can see where they cut the price down , and suzuki warranty is much better 3yrs standard and if serviced with them then 7 yrs ,and looking and riding the bike i can see why the confidence is there, love your reviews and do agree often but not always, keep up the great work , love that you are open with your reviews

[@stevesanelli90]

Once you go black… you never go back😎 Love mine & will get a steering damper but have not experienced the death weave💀

[@Norton1531]

You’re obviously from somewhere up North, but are you anywhere near Wigan (Three Sisters)? I’m tempted to do one of their Bike Attack track days and was wondering if you’ve ever been on one, and if so what you thought of it?

[@markjohnson9774]

How does the Suzuki compare to the street triple you reviewed recently?

[@JixuanLIU]

How do you feel the seat height? Is it comfortable for 6 feet tall?

[@SamuelGoodwin]

Huge difference between the volume of the intro talking vs the intro clip. Kinda surprised me haha

[@Abdulrahman_unli]

We'd like to cover the 2023 TransLab 750

[@chrisb4504]

Middleton in teesdale is County Durham, Kirkby Stephen Cumbria Kate but yeah we know what you mean by Yorkshire roads.😂

[@vonsarg]

Is it worth the price

[@christopherreed442]

I share your views re colours. The black is great, but the other colours and graphics make it look 'cheap' in my opinion, probably why the white is widely available for £6999.

[@joedudz]

I'd still have the 8S over the Hornet. The Hornet should have been the CB650R.

[@petrol11]

Great review, I would say thought the complaint about 'lots of wind' seems... unfair? Any bike this weight is going to suffer in wind - indeed anywhere would tell you that riding in high winds is a bad idea. Pull over and wait for winds to die down if you get caught out in it, otherwise... just don't ride.

[@UsernameKate]

I ride a lot of bikes in a lot of wind, it was just something I personally experienced with that bike. My friend Lillie even saw the front wheel acting flightly. I wouldn't say unfair, just an account of my experience 😊

[@Jack-bb9wj]

GSX-8S owner here, yes I experience a lot of wobble above 80kmh/50mph, but to me it feels more like it's coming from the rear wheel, not the front, and it doesn't happen every time, only sometimes, dealer can't figure out why.

[@UsernameKate]

So strange! Yes my experience was definitely front. Hope you can figure it out

[@Jack-bb9wj]

@@UsernameKate I think the front or rear instability can come down to rider position and weight balance, I'm significantly taller and heavier than you so I sit differently on the bike distributing my weight differently - that's just a theory, because the feeling you described is identical, feels really like a wrongly inflated tire, but it's not that.

[@llerradish]

I heard other riders s mention that the Honda feels like you're sitting in the bike as where the Suzuki feels like you're sitting on top. I personally like to feel like I'm sitting on the bike and not in the bike. I was curious what your opinion was.

[@hisride]

if the suzi feels like youre sitting on the bike, i dont know what my sumo is😂. Coming from that, the 8S definitely feels like youre sitting in the bike, and it feels big as well. almost like first gen MT09 ergonomics if you know what i mean

[@gk73man51]

I tried one when I had a spare half our at the local Suzuki dealer. It was nice but I felt a bit underpowered by modern standards. Then I found some KZbin dyno tests and found they make well under 80 bhp at the wheel, which confirms my suspicions. For what they cost I’d like closer to 85-90 bhp at the wheel. I found myself running out of revs on longer straights very quickly.

[@mustdriveslower]

What happened to you your fingers Kate? What did you do?

[@Jack-bb9wj]

I have to say now after 8000km on the bike the wobble when accelerating is completely gone, and was gone already from around 4k km, new tires thing? I don't have an answer honestly

[@stevieeplea5611]

Hey Kate how is my favourite Bolton biker chick doing today I'm looking forward to seeing this later Nothing beats seeing you on 2 wheels wearing your biker gear and that fabulous swanky helmet and dark visor ride safe lovely greetings from your friend Stevie in st Helens 😂

[@svaralen]

I just love the SV650, but this 8S looks and sound amazing!! I am a 52 year old beginner and tempted to buy the 8S as my first bike. Do you think it is begginner friendly as the SV650?! Thanks and cheers from Serbia 🇷🇸✌️

[@borisstupar5147]

it is beginner friendly for sure, in B mode the throttle response is less sharp as she mentioned. I drove a KTM 790 duke as first time, you put it in RAIN mode and drops the power to 75hp, huge difference in power delivery. Sve najbolje brate, pozdrav iz Vankuvera!

[@svaralen]

@@borisstupar5147 E hvala ti brate!! Video sam ga na sajmu kod nas i svidja mi se bas, za nijansu mi SV650 lepsi po izgledu (stara garda jbg) ali cu probati oba i odluciti 😎Pozdrav tebi iz Beograda 😎✌️🇷🇸

[@cirian75]

This is going to sound strange, old man has a 2021 triumph Speedmaster and last time out bottomed out the suspension on that swing over the swing bridge at Acton and did a number on his back, so badly he's gone off low rear suspension travel cruisers and is now looking at the GXS-8s and Z650rs etc, and hey presto UserNameKate has a GSX to test

[@ThomasDoubting5]

Not trying to gaslight you, but it sounds like the weaving sensation you experienced on windy days but isn't there otherwise sounds more like sympathetic nervous response to potential danger , its not a nice experience to be on a motorcycle when its windy especially at 80 on a motorway . If it was the bike it would weave regardless of the conditions its being ridden in .

[@SlickMotoMike]

Need to see one with a top box and panniers plus 2 up riding. Also what happened to the v-twin engine? This new engine is horrible screaming like a 125 think I'll go for a Harley Davidson hate motorcycle that screams prefer a grunt or purring sound and v-twin engines just are more reliable

[@yellowtoblerone]

Mic was a bit low

[@56Spookdog]

👍👍🇺🇸

[@LukeAshton05]

🔆🤸🤸🌧️

[@Unboxer90]

No one is criticising the placement of tail light. Never expected this from Suzuki. It will be pain to install tail tidy (if possible to do so).😢

[@alphacapo]

Check out the gsxs8 ltd edition for France market I believe saw a short on it earlier today. Somebody makes a nice short lp bracket

[@alphacapo]

Gsx-8s SERT edition

[@fcalin21]

Honda Transalp is a mockery.

[@UsernameKate]

What don't you like about it?

[@fcalin21]

@@UsernameKate I don't like the fact that the suspension is not adjustable , which is dangerous at higher speed. I also don't like the that the engine is not DOHC. As usual , Honda makes the minimum effort.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

I really want to watch your video review but my service provider Verizon is throttling my bandwidth even though I pay for unlimited on the most expensive plan. So far I have waited 25 minutes to have only watched 10 seconds of your video.

[@UsernameKate]

Hope you manage to watch it 🙏

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

@UsernameKate indeed I did, the entire video took about 1.5 hours to watch though. I've been thinking about the XSR900 however if I can't physically mount up on the Yamaha I'll look at alternatives such as the Suzuki, Honda or Kawasaki. I many even be forced to ride the HD Nightster because of all the pain I have in my back and legs when mounting a bike.

[@DJPTEXAS]

Does it ever stop raining there ? Lol.........

[@fortyfour1654]

So called global warming for ya!

[@MrBinkz]

The hornet is priced the same as the GSX8S in NZ. Such a moronic missed opportunity on their part.

[@wallacemuir4815]

The 8S is now $2.5k cheaper than the Hornet in NZ ... seriously looking at doing a road test with a view to buy.

[@MrBinkz]

@@wallacemuir4815 you realise I posted this 8 months ago on release right?

[@Jonathan-L]

Reviewing a bike in the wet and taking your hand off the bar for hand gestures? So many KZbinrs seem to do it.

[@mhraidul343]

Wats your country..? I'm from Bangladesh.. 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩

[@delmilligan4584]

Tinted visor on a dull day ??? Tut tut young lady 😂… pc plod will be after you 😅

[@spynles7947]

Shame Suzuki couldn't have made it a V Twin or Triple to offset the plethora of parallel twins on the market. And don't you just hate peeling off wet jeans? Two person job pretty much.

[@G0ogs]

Bloody weather 😡

[@user-kb1eb9gs1e]

I like you. Kate

[@gw2891]

I almost unsubscribed when I saw that sad excuse for a breakfast 😂

[@freebehindbars8654]

It’s actually good.

[@gw2891]

@@freebehindbars8654 urrrm I don’t think so

[@bramcurtis6900]

The obvious solution is do not ride at 80 mph in extremely high winds. On any motorcycle you ride according to the conditions and the bikes ability. If it doesn't like high speeds in high winds, slow down. Problem solved.

[@UsernameKate]

That is a solution and once experienced of course you ride to conditions but my reason to highlight is because I have ridden many different models of bikes in similar conditions and not experienced this phenomenon so in my opinion, worthy of highlighting.

[@langhamp8912]

Why is it that 99% of British motorcycle reviews consists of riding slowly through straight roads or behind drivers? Britain must have the worse roads of Europe.

[@rlw85]

Sounds like your not impressed 😊

[@UsernameKate]

I'm very impressed! I had it for a weekend on the Yorkshire twisties and it was quality following the superduke my mate has.

[@rlw85]

@@UsernameKateages ago did you say that your doing a bike build series of films 🎥

[@UsernameKate]

It's in progress 😊

[@rlw85]

@@UsernameKate are cool looking forward to seeing the films 🍿 🎥

[@alphacapo]

Hornets made in third world asia.. and the fit and finish is shite. Suzuki is made in japan. If you look at everything the fit and finish is way above the hornet. Plus it has a quick shifter and is a legit all new bike. That's your price difference alone. Honestly if u figure in the cost of what it takes honda to build the hornet your probably getting overcharged. Also I drive hiboy van quite a bit. (Ford aluminum unibody) so u get the extreme end of the feeling on gusty days driving open roads at 70 on dry pavement the wind can make it feel like your driving on ice. The crosswind is just blasting everything not the vehicles fault

[@UsernameKate]

Not blaming the bike, simply sharing my opinion of my experience 😊 I even ask others to share their opinions if they've ridden it in heavy winds. Being 9 stone probably doesn't help! 🤣

[@theaustralianconundrum]

@@UsernameKate That Suzuki IS 100% Made in Japan. The build quality and component quality is excellent. Unfortunately wearing a smoked visor on such an overcast day is a dead giveaway to someone who has no idea. LOL. In Australia smoked visors in such dark conditions are an offence as they should be. You ain't too bright. That's for sure!!!!!!!!!!!

[@UsernameKate]

Where did I say it wasn't built in Japan? 🤣

[@alphacapo]

@@theaustralianconundrum lol jeez. Riding nazi.