Bahamut is the VILLAIN of the story? - Final Fantasy XV Theory

And we are back with another Final Fantasy XV story theory! My claim today is that the Astral King Bahamut himself is in fact NOT the good guy of FFXV, but in fact a massive d00che canoe. Continuing on from the Ifrit, Eos and Pitioss dungeon theory by original story junkies Perona77, this is a video for players looking to learn all things summons, all things starscourge. And miss a bit of crazy tinfoil hat Peasant action. Spoiler for the ending of the original game, including episode Prompto, Gladiolus and the entire FFXV universe so far. Tally-ho!
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[@BaraTiddies]

Wow this game actually has a good story. If only I could learn the story through the game instead of a KZbin video.

[@saraanbarestani8482]

OR books

[@JSmoothSoul]

they wanted to sell this game to Americans, they dumbed it down because most of us are dumb as a Ass

[@MrSuperTeenGohan]

J Smooth Soul Beats ...dumb as an ass*

[@lordkars3971]

J Smooth Soul Beats Damn, why did you have to ruin it for me?!!

[@aussakagamine8862]

+J Smooth Soul Beats so effin tru

[@phoenixpin5624]

Now that Episode Ardyn is out. This theory has made a lot of sense that Bahamut is the Villain. Now I also understand why former FF15 director, Tabata planned to make other DLC's that will give you the option to defy the Gods' fate but sadly the plan was cancelled.

[@boogiedown7608]

You’re clearly ignorant. If Bahamut was a villain he’d have let Ifrit or the meteor destroy Eos. You people are clearly foolish and don’t understand being “chosen” does not mean your life is going to be wonderful. Last time I looked at the Bible the messiah of the Christian religion had to carry a cross while being beaten, he was then nailed to this cross and hung in the air to suffocate. The Romans then stuck a spear in him to show a small mercy and release him from the pain of crucifixion. But the Astrals should sacrifice themselves to save humanity when they already killed one of their own for humanity? How dumb are you? It’s about time the weak ass humans in this lore protected themselves and Ardyn is a cry baby bitch. When he was a respected “healer” and it was all good praise the gods, but as soon as the path becomes a harsh road of sacrifice you don’t want to protect Eos no more. That sums up Ardyn in all reality.

[@justinw.3422]

@@boogiedown7608 ths dawn of the future came out in s book form, bahamut is the villain

[@nerocrow4040]

@@boogiedown7608 ok so you use Christianity, you know in that God is also an asshole right. He let his own son get tortured and punished and did nothing about it, he wiped out all of humanity but only let one family live, he let Satan trick adam and even into eating the fruit. Sounds like a giant asshole to me. Why didn't god and bahamut just stop the bad shit that happened themselves. Why did bahamut make Ardyn life a living hell when he more than has the power to get rid of the darkness.

[@zepredalux2159]

@@boogiedown7608 wtf are u comparing a video game and the religion,it s 2 separate worlds (and personnally i don t believe in god so u can t compare cuz in the game u know they exist and here u never have seen him)

[@haylongwang3002]

What, why?

[@TheSphereHunter]

Theory videos give me a warm christmassy feeling

[@saraanbarestani8482]

*SPOILERS* The theory that makes THE MOST sense is that Ardyn in the beginning was given BOTH the task of the oracle and the power to protect the crystal, but when his oracle side absorbed the Daemons the gods found out that they made a HUGE mistake by giving him both these tasks since he absorbed them he also could not ascend into the crystal because of his corrupted soul so after Ardyn was *used* as a mistake they decided that next time they will give the powers separately to two people instead of one because the last time they gave both powers to One person AKA Ardyn it went REALLY bad so now they choose two family members instead of giving the lucian line all of the powers. And that second person was Ardyns brother Izunia. It seems like the gods only USED ardyn to 'Test' the powers they would give out then they realised their mistake and fucked Ardyn over by even denying him death. So the gods really ARE douchebags.

[@marcosgonzalez8774]

This is pretty good

[@jikannoyuusha9978]

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[@Comet_373]

Izuna= sommus is actually the name

[@LowkeyLinda]

That does make more sense. If this theory is true, their gods do suck for that douche move.

[@mikigirl18]

I ALWAYS knew that Bahamut was a dick. If he's so powerful why doesn't he fix his mistakes? Why make others sacrifice for things they didn't do? Ardyn had every right to hate him, after all the misery he went through only to have Bahamut turn his back.

[@IiI_Gogeta_IiI]

Bahamut tried to photoshop the situation so he didnt look like the asshole. Ut all the other gods were like “no youre still an asshole” Though to be fair Bahamut trying to sort of fix his mistake but in such a way were no one really questions it and instead makes it seem like the radical ifrit at fault goes to show how much Bahamut likes his image, if people knew of his mistake in the manner we knew he would be made a mockery. So lets add egotistical and self centered to the list of things Bahamut is. In one way Bahamut would be seen as the creator and the Lucians were made in his image, shit thats very god like. He even thinks he is the most beautiful to the point where he recreates his look XD

[@goldensky2737]

once again...the fan theories are so much better than the actual story told in the game XD

[@shaesullivan]

Square should start outsourcing to get in more writing talent. XD

[@sanfransiscon]

I feel like the point was to make things vague so there would be a lot of fan theories.

[@michaelvidal831]

Its vague on purpose. There was a line written that kind of confirmed this in Dissidia 2

[@goldensky2737]

I know the developers have stated that they made the game vague on purpose, but I don't really buy that. This game could have been a masterpiece if the developers focused their efforts solely on this game alone. But, they just had to create FFXV: Kingsglaive, an anime series, A King's Tale, Justice Monster's Five, AND King's Knight. The FFFXV franchise is scattered all over the place and that was ultimately its downfall in my opinion.

[@michaelvidal831]

What downfall? Everyone loved it. Its just not compact which is very rare to have a compact yet be vague and full of deeper elements like FF7 was. They've been making this game for 10 years, the story doesn't only span the text within the game their is visual text in the world environment, visual text in the costume design, they even added an element of pure audio text through its use of radio broadcasts. This game goes beyond you're preconceptions of what a masterpiece should be, it's made people look at things deeply and actually discuss it instead of winking about how beautiful the experience is. I'm not saying its a masterpiece I'm saying it's doing something else that should be respected in its own right

[@LiesintheMist]

What a surprise, gods fucking everything up for humanity because of their damn cosmic ego. I never would've guessed! Thanks, Bahamut.

[@digiking101]

I laughed so hard when i saw this comment!. pretty much sums up what goes down in ffxv

[@liamvogel4931]

Just Some Geek jeez.... Gods are fukin dicks

[@DarthDragon007]

Then instead of fixing up their own freaking mistakes, they contract humans to do it for them. Gives the powers of the Ring/Crystal and the Oracle to one guy, not telling him how to properly cleanse the parasite and he takes it into his body due to lack of instructions. This eventually corrupts him, makes him immortal and a new source of the starscorge. As a result, he's rejected by the Crystal due to the Light and the Astrals turn against him. Throughout this all, I'm assuming Sheva was against what Bahamut did but unlike Ifrit, she didn't stand up against him and just stayed neutral instead.

[@sanfransiscon]

It's almost as if this is a JRPG!

[@tarshil2020]

PFFT it's almost as if this is Planet Fucking Earth

[@TLiebCNV]

Bahamut has blue eyes with eyelashes like sora from kingdom hearts. In kh3 sora is able to use the ultima weapon and he uses swords like Noctis but I’ve noticed sora floats in ultimate form just like bahamut. Also in the secret ending yozora puts sora in a crystal. I remember in the ardyn DLC I had read that bahamut vanished into the crystal. Idk I do believe sora is bahamut I see too many similarities. Nomora must have planned something out with this when he was still in charge of versus 13. But now if my theory is right, we might see it into fruition for future kingdom hearts games/verum rex

[@biscariot1074]

Lmao

[@44637g]

So Shiva, the ice godess (or Astral, whatever), is killed and from her corpse emanates, for miles and miles, cold and snow. And Ifrit, the hell/fire god, is killed and from his corpse rises a gigantic volvano. Why is it that when Eos is killed (the godess of light and dawn), from her corpse emanates the starscourge? Shouldnt it emanates light or something? Why would it be emanating something to darken the world?

[@EliWintercross]

44637g the closer you get to the light, the larger your shadow becomes =P

[@NebbyGotOutTheBag]

Because she was infected by the parasites that couse the "demonization"

[@FinalFantasyPeasant]

Perhaps her body did emit light, which is what attracted the daemon moths down in the depths of Pitioss and infected her. After that I think her power was extracted in the form of the crystal :)

[@distortish]

probably the parasites slowly corrupted her with all the sadness, hate and anger she had for the other astrals for imprisoning her and how bad she felt for the child/children she was bearing.

[@liamvogel4931]

Is it confirmed that Eos was "infected" by the starscourge?I'm having a hard time figuring out if the star scourge originated from a natural part of Eos (like a natural part of her body,) or if the star scourge came from an outside source and infected her.

[@filimonetatofi40]

Bahamut is basically just Ifrit but in reverse. He really means well and wants mankind to thrive, but inadvertently almost destroys it. Also, what are you supposed to do when someone who is not only physically corrupt but also mentally corrupt? It’s hard to tell what Bahamut felt towards Ardyn, but what was he supposed to do?

[@AlexBermann]

It seems as if the Miasma theory has a glaring hole: if you don't kill demons, they will eventually die due to natural causes, disasters or maybe internal conflicts. You'd need to contain the demons in an immortal vessal. This pretty much is what Ardyn is. What Bahamut didn't predict was that this twisted Ardyn - so much that he couldn't grant him kinghood. He also didn't predict how far Ardyn would go. I have no defense for ancient Bahamuth, though.

[@thedragonkingseraphbahamut]

That's why Bahamut himself already knew Ardyn would go this far that's why he talked with him being the Sacrificial Lamb.

[@codysingh2572]

I feel like Bahamut could have been a sort of sympathetic character if you explored on the fact that he constantly has to look after every person who died watching there lives go bye while he stuck eternally watching

[@saintricardo8746]

You know we could've killed him IF THEY DIDN'T CANCEL THE DLC

[@SAR-re1fx]

Thing is that in the DLC book , the story is messy as well, Ardyn still doesn´t get a happy ending, Noctis leaves the chocobros aside for Luna, etc...

[@ryanmoore6259]

@@SAR-re1fx Bahamut gets his though

[@TheJSullivan]

My love for Ardyn grows daily as does my hate for that ancient dragon

[@thedragonkingseraphbahamut]

I still don't believe Bahamut is that evil.

[@amelveambitzya3592]

@@thedragonkingseraphbahamut its not that bahamut is evil, but that he caused all of this mess, and makes others his pawns to do as he wishes, denying them freedom

[@zionhaynes2997]

@@thedragonkingseraphbahamut say what you will but he turned the 1st born of one of his kind become a literal sponge for a disease he caused and then deemed him the bad guy, pure evil in my book

[@TheLogman12]

It's funny knowing thjat after reading the book that summarizes Episodes Aranaea, Luna, and Noctis, that this theory is actually right

[@ffkoteji]

I sympathize with the director's idea of "perspective." We see the story from the perspective of the world's redeemer, Noctis. However, the stories of others exist in this world. Of both people, and Astrals. And we can interact with these texts, images, individuals, and places we encounter. The story is enriched by making ones interaction with it be like that of the lead. I know I may be alone here. So be it. I find the world of FFXV to be incredible. I see how it's like Homer's Iliad... warriors battling alongside gods. Bahamut is Zeus, Leviathan is Hera, for example. These are just parallels mind you. They help one see how Noctis is a pawn in a grand game. He's used by one king to kill another. Great video Pez! Ready for II whenever it drops.

[@liamvogel4931]

Jon Godfrey well said Jon, I have to say I absolutely agree with you! I've always been frustrated with the lack of story engagement when it comes to the other characters. I get that they want to show alternative perspectives and divulge those details in the dlc's. In my opinion, there should have been more development in the main story when it comes to the starscourge and the history of Eos. Fleeting Loading screens just aren't enough sometimes:(

[@ffkoteji]

I feel you. Luckily the DLCs have offered a lot of story though, both directly in the narrative, and in the case of Prompto, within the documents and voicenotes that he finds. I think the lack of story is harped on a bit too much though, as gaming content wise this game is MASSIVE. The Menace Dungeons, Legendary Weapons Quests, Hunts, Timed Quests, and Pitioss... to name a few (King's Tale as well.... and King's Knight soon), have provided me with extent hours of enjoyment. I absolutely love XV. It really sparked my love for gaming again... and I do hope it keeps growing. I would love to continue to get patches for the game, and would buy another Season Pass if that means more gameplay/story.

[@burnedsnake4376]

OMG Noctis is Jesus D:

[@kkocicakk]

Ardyn is our great antihero. He does not have to be a hero to be awesome.

[@kingdomirfan9323]

welp your teory is right bahamuth is villains episode ardyn

[@bahamutdrakenguyen3697]

Why do you thing that the dragon king is evil ?

[@stormwolf8770]

@@bahamutdrakenguyen3697 oh piss off u dragon god;)

[@bahamutdrakenguyen3697]

@@stormwolf8770 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@luciferschoice]

When I finished the game I was thinking the exact same. I am 100% sure that this is exactly what they tried to tell us between the lines. Just like Eos/Ifrit/Pitioss. Some people won't believe that, but those don't care about the game, because the story was lacking. But the stuff beyond that? That is some deep lore. And most people love to get the story thrown in their face. But me, as A Dark Souls/Bloodborne fan, is 'used' to reach down beyond the lines in the story if a game.

[@jefthereaper]

well kinda contradicting to say "when he killed Ifrit his IMMORTAL body stopped burning" Immortal meaning it can't ever die. My guess is its still burning.

[@aundrea5541]

Solid theory in my books. Bahamut has been on my blacklist for a while now.

[@greatmans9317]

Who would’ve thought that you were right

[@tainor89]

The biggest sin of FF15 is having a good story but fragmented over so many different mediums! Anime, movie, game, book and what not! They should have included all of this in the main game and truly show, Ardyn’s tragic story along with the alternate proper ending of killing off Bahamut and ridding the world of the Astrals, magic and the starscourge!

[@pforgottonsoul]

Bahamut basically solves problems he creates which gives rise to more problems.

[@luigicrisci7637]

These fan theories are awesome, and I really wish they could be even partially confirmed, but unfortunately they're never going to be. There's one crucial flaw in all of this, and it is that Eos doesn't exist in the FFXV Universe: the one-winged entity we see in paintings and in the logo of the game is just the ORACLE, and this is confirmed when Lunafreya rests in the exact same position on the Lucis throne and Noctis is added to the artwork alongside her. Other "minor" flaws in the theory are the painting of "Eos" in Kingsglaive is actually the very same painting of ETRO in Versus XIII trailer, the word "Pyreburner" which is never used in the original japanese text, the fact that the crystal holds the soul of the "star" (the japanese word for "star", hoshi, identifies any celestial body, even planets). The only thing that this theory got straight is the Ravatogh being the place Ifrit came crashing down. Hats off to you and to the original author on reddit, all of this is magnificently written and told, but the thing is the very pillar of this theory (the existence of Eos in FFXV) is missing.

[@Huckleberry87]

Pez is having way too much fun. Also, Dinkleberg!!!

[@bluecoin3771]

Bahamut’s supposed to be an almighty god here, and yet his summon attack is the lamest of any of his incarcerations.

[@KnownotProductions]

The fact that there was sooo much information missing from FFXV allows us to continue to have these spectacular indepth theory videos. Thanks muchly Pz

[@JoshWiseTV]

Ugh, I hate Square's storytelling methods nowadays...it all started with Fabula Nova Cystallis. "Let's craft a masterpiece story, but don't give ANY context so the player feels ZERO emotional attachment!"

[@vDorgengoa]

Also, something that you missed.... This all started with Eos child with Man or... Genji. So this whole escapade ultimately led to the death of Eos, the line of Lucis, Ardyn, and all the Oracles. He succeeded in stopping magic, super humand, and all the Gods that did not follow him. He's a FUCKING EVIL MASTERMIND!

[@IshidaSado]

I still think that Ravus is Bahamut. He is the only summon it makes a point to show up close (specifically his blue eyes, the same color as Ravus's) Then in the battle with Ifrit, there are two scripted summons, Shiva (Gentiana) and Bahamut (Ravus) the only two who wore human disguises and meant something to Noctis (as Noct nods in understanding with Bahamut) Ravus aslo wears the Knight's glove that resembles Bahamut's clawed hand (The place Noctis was told he must die) It would make a lot of sense because Ravus and Bahamut shared the goal of preparing Noctis for the thrown and Ravus made a big deal out of making sure that the new king was ready for his fate. Please address this theory. It would make for a good discussion.

[@Anukulous]

I think it is a mockery of how they fused Odin with Bahamet. Bahamet was suppose to be an uncontrolled force of nature: King of the Dragons. This iteration of Bahamet is folly.!! He’s just an astral in dragon-theme armor. If the game is in parallel to Greek mythology, I don’t see how gods having kids with mortals is a big taboo. Zeus, Poseidon, and others had demi-god kids, so i don’t see the issue. I think Odin-Bahamet’s motivation is to dominate and kill the other astrals. If he could, they’d all be in dead, but instead he keeps them in check. Using Eos as an example and “the why” for his actions. Bahamet keeps people around for a reason, and this stops the other astrals from going ape-shet on humans. Btw, wtf is Diablos, the astral that represents the demons? Did he die in the war, and the star-scourge a by-product of his death?

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

Either way Ardyn is the victim. How sad. 😔

[@samurizzy]

I don't know if I can really call this a theory, since none of what you said was pulled out of your ass. This is just well pieced together fact. Good job.

[@WinoaKaronhiatens]

technically Bahamut's always been a villian in the FF series but has been just allied as a summon from the hero's. His lore has always been connected to the destruction of the world. Also Lucius talks to Bahamut which Lucius doesn't like Bahamut's actions in a few of the side trailers.

[@sharinganMRDBZ]

OMFG, I was at a bar telling my friends this. I had the same theory.

[@e-pearlm]

Bahamut always makes everything worse he's the interdimensional scourge on the FF Universe :T

[@stormcutter59]

Peasant just put in a resume to Square and work on 16. Your genius is inspiring man. Become a goddamn writer, Jesus

[@mpbanks80]

Can't wait for second video, I've been thinking that Bahumut had a darker role in the whole mess. The first time we actually meet him he's trapped within the crystal itself. And yes we need to know what Noct was doing as well as the rest of the world during those 10 years

[@ThatBeingCed]

Mmmmm, now that I researched the Luna's death scene, she turns into black water... and because of that days become shorter.

[@damon90x]

Anyone else got the feeling during the ardyn dlc. Ifrit being evil was just a ruse, in order to prepare the mortals and few gods for the upcoming danger. Ya know necessary evil, As he knew his fate in the end. But still tried to help a little

[@JadedSpartan719]

If FFXV is so bad, then why are we still talking about it almost a year later! Food for thought mates, food for thought. 😊✌️

[@jkbobful]

probably because the theory's are more interesting than that story that was told

[@Emperor-Soul]

sounds about right

[@michaelvidal831]

I think most people are too dense to realise what actual deep stories do for observers. Where are the theories for other RPG's? And how far do they go? Final Fantasy always has the most thought provoking details throughout the story in each title. Nobody's satisfied but everyone still in love

[@stormcutter59]

Because it had so much potential? Because it was such a dissapointment to what it was talked about as being? Also because their is actually interesting story elements that the game still had that are worth talking about. And I can admit that while still being dissapointed in the game as a whole. Their is interesting shit in this half finished bitch of a game. To me that goes to show the games wicked potential.

[@dantefarmer7430]

Well that logic is incredibly flawed.

[@DarthDragon007]

Final Fantasy Peasent: That's it! I've come up with a new Theoray! Me: Can't wait to hear it! :D

[@Zerirs_Archive]

"Bahamut the wannabe Diabolos" needs an Alexanders slap again

[@Hoffanheim]

So it's the same problem like Kingdom Hearts 2 that we shouldn't kill because we make all worse so let us kill by them is a better idea?

[@SPAC3MANxSPL1FF]

Theres a lot of satanism referenced in the game. The most obvious one, being Bahamut the Draconian. The fuck????? Last time I checked, being a draconian means youre an unholy abomination. Bahamut = baphomet, satans right hand demon agent. But this comes as no surprise, seeing as how draconians actually run our real life, no way SE woulda been able to release this gane if it didnt promote satanism. Its no skin off my nose, and I enjoyed the game for what its worth, but the flaws, and obvious to me satanic references took a lot away from the game for me.

[@TheUniprime1]

SPAC3MANxSPL1FF where did you get that idea from

[@sararapotata]

i am really glad to see you make another ffxv theory video, really brings back the hypes of a few months ago

[@imyournme6632]

So basically Ardyn when he was the hero he absorbed the entire epidemy and that resulted in him becoming bad.

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

*Yes.*

[@samex8275]

That's a lot of theories for a game that was unfinished.

[@johnnyscifi]

That Tonberry was wreaking Noctis there!!!

[@JoeyCi]

So I just finished the game yesterday (yes yes, I know I'm late - and really not happy they first took Nyx and then Noctis away from us *ugly sobs*) and started reading around for all the story theories, which are a lot, and Bahamut being more... morally questionable makes a lot of sense. The way he told Noct about his fate and how he had to sacrifice himself rubbed me the wrong way anyway. Not that he needed to look super sympathetic, but he came accross kind of dismissive, felt very "by the way" to me. So yeah, bad feeling he gave me confirmed. Go home Bahamut, go home :p (I like my Bahamuts more FFX style

[@Botanica_Gaming]

I just finished the game a couple of days ago. Theres always those out there that go at their own pace to finish big games.

[@draconicthemoelion7726]

Not a villain so much as completely unconcerned with anything that isn't a god, and unwilling to do his own dirtywork, and therefore demands innocent humans sacrifice their lives to do something he's fully capable of doing because it might leave him short of breath for a few hours.

[@tarshil2020]

This video is fucking genius. I honestly think the only thing that can save the FF series is for Square to hire you as the next FF story writer.

[@darkyozora1222]

Still can’t believe we got robbed of a chance to run the fade with bahamut after the suffering he put noctis and ardyn through and ik noctis is mad as hell rn over this as well

[@lazybear4321]

So was an Oracle a king/queen of Lucis? If the trident was gifted to an Oracle by Bahamut, then it wouldn't have belonged to a lucii king. Or maybe it's an Armiger weapon because all the royal arms come from Bahamut, maybe? Or does it not count as a royal arm?

[@forsetigodofjusticeexcelle7506]

Just a shot in the dark about Ravus. Could it be possible that Ravus' magitek arm screwed up with the process of him becoming full demon? It's magitek so was using demon energy for power, perhaps Ravus was taking some medicine to keep the demonic energy taking him over, but when he was killed, immune system stopped and a messed up version of the demon transformation took place upon his demon vaccinated body.

[@rosaheartlily]

The whole story behind this game is so deep and so dark.

[@galaxydove]

They should put a doom around the rock of Ravahto. Final Fantasy 15.5 The Doom

[@fluffyxsnoballs6756]

I love how its confirmed now that technically Bahamut is the villain I wish we got that dlc

[@brianworden7022]

Sooo the game has a much better story under surface.. just we get a half-assed one in the the main plot.

[@rnufharose]

Your theories are always the best Pez :D keep it up!

[@mortalballgt52]

Congratulations, Pez. You called it!

[@claudiusseraph1028]

Always thought that the Hexatheon (exculuded Ifrit, which my favourite Summon/Astral x3) just wanted to end the "abomination" that Eos created aka her children. And we all(or maybe not all)know that Ifrit loves Eos, but sadly wasn't return yet that did not stop him from protecting and trying to keep her away from danger(which sadly, ended in a tragedy; *referring to Pez's Pitioss Theory :3)

[@TheSmartNacho]

this was confirmed in book that will be released in the US some time this fall the book pretty much covers the fact that bahamut is a bad guy they were making a dlc about it but the dlc was then cut (insert sadface here)

[@Firstone33]

Final Fantasy Peasant I Am So Glad I Am Not The Only One Who Thought Of This Theory

[@Eckie_Respecky]

So what if... the first statue in Pittios is Gilgamesh and not Titon. That would explain why he 1 arm in the game. Also explains the genji gloves. Saw a theory and thought you might look at it

[@tomparham1768]

From my knowledge buhmmet is the evil dragon god and Tiamat is the good dragon god

[@BalladiFieno]

Its Ifrit read the background Story, Ifrit was against mankind creation whilst bahamut and shiva gifted mankind(Ardyn)

[@pancakeboi3096]

BalladiFieno That's partially correct. Ifrit DID try to destroy man, but only because they betrayed Eos and because the other gods captured and killed her. Other theories say that Ifrit is in fact the un-intentional HERO of the story (Pez's other vids). And while the choice of who is the villian is is up to you to decide, Pez does a good job at explaining why Bahamut is the bad guy.

[@bauloprete3905]

Eos never existed!

[@Nem_FFXIV]

"YOU DAMN DINKLEBURG" lol'd so hard

[@jefthereaper]

Bahamut was also not really trying to fix things if you ask me, way it looks to me he just gives some godlike power to a few mortals and then goes away to do his own thing, literally passing on his job to the first gullible mortals he ran into instead of using his own godlike powers to fix the problem in less then a weeks time. Leave alone that once he realized Ardyn was no longer doing the job he gave him, he actually let him KEEP his immortality and weapon summoning/warping/illusion powers! I mean strip him of those powers already!

[@BritReadsBritAuthors]

Coming back to this video once more after the Ardyn DLC and Dawn of the Future novel... So many things ended up being proven right (or mostly right, anyway).

[@chapachuu]

If it wasn't for this channel, I would think FF15 is shit. This theory, and your other related theories, really explain a lot and make for a MUCH better story than the one we were barely given.

[@brandoosavv5563]

If you pause on the Ifrit screen at 2:51 and look at the flames they move for a little and if you look away and back again it keeps doing it lol.

[@rometdead32]

Bahamut is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Sorry mate, i need you to fix my shit!"

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

Lightning Farron quote "The Brightest Lights cast the darkest shadows."

[@MrSuperTeenGohan]

Blue Velvet I thought that was from Kingdom Hearts

[@cakeistasty-yy38]

YESSSS I MISS THESE VIDEOS...the ff theories.... HAVE RETURNED!!!!!!

[@dannyd4339]

I love the irony that a new empire commercials play on all your videos pes lol

[@unskillfullymasterful]

cant build a wall to block off ardyn from destroying it somehow... hes just too damn powerful at this point

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

Exactly. 👍

[@liamvogel4931]

When I got this notification, I nearly choked on my iced espresso. Finally! Another juicy theory vid! Definitely an interesting perspective on the daemons, I just wish square had made it a little more obvious in the main story.sometimes a fleeting loading screen isn't enough..... (That cheeky "science of the star scourge" intro had me laughing my ass off!)

[@SorasShadow1]

I already had a beef with Bahamut for the bullshit he put the Lucian line through for their mistakes but given this potential context I think it would fix a lot of the blank spots I've been dealing with. Now, if only the game could've told us this outside of those tiny ass text boxes that I can't read cause the font's too small. Thanks for another great theory, even if I had to slow down the video to understand your rapid-fire summary!

[@Yodatom]

If only Noct was the 145th king

[@saraanbarestani8482]

LOL why?

[@Yodatom]

He'd wall off Insomnia from the demons and not fight them therefore no demon gas!

[@saraanbarestani8482]

HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT IV BEEN SAYING, maybe Ardyn had a child we never knew and he possibly never knew about and in FFXV-2 its Ardyns child comes and fixes everything his or even Her family line started and maybe if the starscourge is still around FINALLY destroy that too. AND what if its Ardyns adult child who finally kills Bahamut???

[@Vigriff]

If Bahamut is Zeus, then that makes Shiva Hermes.

[@Otoshi_Gami]

For COMRADES DLC it would make sense since WE AS AVATARS contributing the SKY DARKER just by killing the Daemons.

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

That is because Cor Leonis is Bahamut. Have you noticed in the game how he has nothing to do with the story after the battle with Loqi? Hmm hes not the least bit suspicious to me.

[@oisnowboy70]

I just realized that Ardyn is kind of like Cain from the bible being immortal and disliking the gods and all.

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

Cor Leonis was also called Cor The 'Immortal'

[@IWFDI]

I think it is Pitty of Eos, because Eos got pregnant by a human. And the other Gods didn't approve it and therefore they banished her underground.

[@dannydavis18]

At this point I wish the last dlcs would have been made and you find out Bahamut is the true villan

[@0neWeAre]

Too many ff15 new empire ads!!! Please STOP!!!

[@Cooperal]

I'm not seeing this much crazier second part anywhere.

[@TheAzureflame88]

Pez I enjoyed this theory thoroughly. I can hardly wait for part 2.

[@rhazzofhammer]

That "Science of the Starscourge" theme-scat got this video an automatic like. XD

[@F4ll3nISD34DsaveH1M]

ive been screaming this since i finished the game

[@MemoriesInMonochrome]

SO. HAVE. I. 👏🏼💯🌟

[@swefrostofficial3007]

Ardyns dlc makes NO sense. If he is aware of his actions why dosent he take The role of a god? He clearly corrupted Ifrit and he could do The same to bahamut too. Now thats The plot. The gods feared their own destruction. Sadly that you have to overlook in order typ understand

[@dantecrailman8861]

SPOILERS!!! Bahamut can give someone the ability to absorb the Scourge and he did this to Lunafreya in the novel.

[@KelThuzard]

Maybe this is why they didn't have Alexander in this game? Alexander uses Holy Judgement in previous games, but isn't exactly indestructible himself (In example in Final Fantasy 9, getting impaled with the Sword of Alexandria). He cast Judgement on Bahamut's action and put him in his hibernating state to a Garnet Stone. But it also proves that their governance has a limit as well. They will not reign over human will. I could be over thinking it though.

[@danieliler7258]

cannonically bahamut hates spaghetti. It is mentioned in every final fantasy if you dig deep enough

[@L_Luciano]

Keep up those professor hojo scientific lessons 🤓😂... Love your theory videos 👌

[@jamaicanboi909]

He protec He attac But most importantly he scat

[@AbysmalRandomn3ss]

Square apparently likes making the creators make shitty mistakes

[@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189]

Hhhhmmm,no,Bahamud is not a villian.he is just a God,who was bored and because of that he decided to start playing another wicked game with the people of Eos.