Find the Area of the Blue Triangle Inside of a Rectangle

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The Math District

The Math District

Жыл бұрын

In this video we use the formulas for the areas of rectangles and triangles, as well as the quadratic formula to find the area of the blue triangle.

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@spacelemur7955
@spacelemur7955 9 ай бұрын
As a 70 y.o. man who hasn't worked with these types of problems for >45 years, I could visualize this approach in principle, but couldn't remember the quadratic equation anymore and had to look it up. It also took me much longer than the video lasted.
@Exciteonium
@Exciteonium 3 ай бұрын
I had the same problem but got the correct answer 🙂buy working out (guessing) the length of the sides then subtracting the total area of the rectangle from that given for the 3 tringles 3x10 =30 /2 =15 so the height is 10, 6x9=54/2=27 so the length is 9 total area for rectangle = 90... Total given triangle area 27+12+15=54 centre triangle 90-54 = 36 not a quadratic in sight ;-)
@user-ug5ji9sl3g
@user-ug5ji9sl3g 2 ай бұрын
Él lado de un triángulo siempre es mayor que la suma de los otros dos. En ese triángulo azul eso no se cumple
@crustyoldfart
@crustyoldfart Жыл бұрын
When you have 3 equations and 4 unknowns, it's important to recognize that a solution for a*b is sufficient.
@Jack_Callcott_AU
@Jack_Callcott_AU Жыл бұрын
@Harold L Potts...So that means a*b = 90 is a constant for this problem. It should be possible to fit all 4 triangles with these areas in the rectangle as long as a*b = 90, otherwise not.
@crustyoldfart
@crustyoldfart Жыл бұрын
@@Jack_Callcott_AU It's important to recognize that the area of the rectangle is a*b, so the quantity a*b is measured in area units. This allows the assertion that a*b = 12+15+27+Blue. So solving for a*b permits calculation of Blue.
@alainpeugny1146
@alainpeugny1146 Жыл бұрын
There is a forth equation. The blue area can be obtained from the three sides of this inner triangle with Heron’s formula. And the lengths of these three sides can be calculated with the help of Pythagore. That’s a bit complicated but doing so, we can add the areas of the 4 triangles. This sum must be equal to the area of the rectangle. Logically, this constraint should give us a fourth equation. The thing is the blue area always equals 36, whatever the proportion between a and b, as long as a*b equals 90. So we have an infinity of solutions for a and b.
@Jack_Callcott_AU
@Jack_Callcott_AU Жыл бұрын
@@alainpeugny1146 Well, yes! That's what I thought. Also , I like Heron's formula, but using it in this case would be complicated. Thanks!
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
@Alain Peugny: I posted a set of parametric equations to define the length of each of the 6 outer line segments, for a given constant. (Infinite real solutions, but just 4 integer-only, with just 1 with x-dim > y-dim.)
@benw1656
@benw1656 6 ай бұрын
As an engineer this is what I hate about math, they intentionally give you the minimum amount of information. In reality, you almost always have enough information to solve by multiple means.
@dongxuli9682
@dongxuli9682 Жыл бұрын
we have 3 equations: bx=54; ay=30; (b-y)(a-x)=24; add the 3 equations together, we have: ab + xy = 108; multiply the first two equations together, we have (ab) (xy)=54*30. Therefore, both the sum and the product are known for the two numbers ab and xy, and they are the two roots of the quadratic equation: U^2 - 108 U + 54*30 = 0. Solving the quadratic equation, we have ab=90, xy=18 (since ab > xy). Finally, the answer to the original question is ab - 27-15-12 = 36.
@ramansingh8095
@ramansingh8095 6 ай бұрын
Sum of two sides equal to third side, hence area equal to zero... as all vertices are collinear....
@jpopelish
@jpopelish Жыл бұрын
I like how the answer does not constrain the actual values of a and b, individually, but shows an infinite family of triangles in an infinity of rectangles satisfy this set of constraints.
@wrc1210
@wrc1210 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, at first, I was thinking that's great, but what are the actual values of a and b. But after playing around a bit, I realized that any values for a and b work as long as: 1) ab=90 2) x=(3/5)a 3) y=(1/3)b For example: a=1, b=90 x=(3/5) x 1=0.6 y=(1/3) x 90=30 Basically, it's a really wide short rectangle. Example 2: a=2, b=45 X=(3/5) x 2=1.2 y=(1/3) x 45=15 Etc., etc. As you said, there are an infinite number of solutions.
@devondevon4366
@devondevon4366 10 ай бұрын
Did without pen and paper by assuming the values are integers Starting with the triangle of area 15, the sides are 3* 10 ( of course, 2*15, 6*5 are possible, but 3*10 looks more reasonable). Hence, one side of the rectangle is 10 for now, and part of the other side =3 For the triangle with area 12, L*W = 24. Let's try 6* 4, and add 6 + 3 = 9. Hence 4 goes to the other side, which for now is 10. Hence we need a 6 from the triangle with an area of 2 For the triangle with this area L* W =54. Let's use 6* 9 since we are looking for a 6 and 9 . Hence the sides for the rectangle are 9 and 10. Hence the area of the rectangle = 90. And the area of the triangle: 90-(27-15- 12 ) = 90 - 54 = 36 Answer
@user-ly5bc4xd2s
@user-ly5bc4xd2s Жыл бұрын
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@BytebroUK
@BytebroUK Жыл бұрын
I watch a fair few vids of this kind of thing, but I must say your explanations are very clear and concise. And yes, there are several ways of doing that, but you chose one and explained it very well.
@guilhermeviana2314
@guilhermeviana2314 Жыл бұрын
Excelente. Bastante didático. Muito útil.
@Wmann
@Wmann Жыл бұрын
Solution is simple to understand, but needs a creative mind to produce. Neatly done.
@user-lh5hl4sv8z
@user-lh5hl4sv8z Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of geometry problems that have triangles everywhere, usually your best bet is to define everything
@evo8839
@evo8839 Жыл бұрын
It's not a mathematical way of deriving, but if you multiply the area of each triangle by doubling it, that is, assume the length of the side of the quadrangle as the area of the quadrangle, you get the following. 27 = (1/2)*9*6 ... x = 6, b = 9 12 = (1/2)*4*6 ... (a-x)=4, (b-y)=6 15 = (1/2)*3*10 ... y=3, a=10 b = (b-y) + y = 6 + 3 = 9 a = x + (a-x) = 6 + 4 = 10 a * b = 90 Blue Triangle = 90 - 27 - 12 - 15 = 36
@bocaviorel4798
@bocaviorel4798 4 күн бұрын
So a>b? ;-)
@escapistdesign1962
@escapistdesign1962 Жыл бұрын
I like the way you explain everything. Nice video.
@Gwydion_Wolf
@Gwydion_Wolf Жыл бұрын
its 330am and this popped up on my recommended for some reason :) Only 6 seconds in (wanted to make sure the numbers shown were the 'area' of the known triangles). But here's how i'd go about solving this. 1) Solve the A2, B2, C2, for all 3 known triangles. 2) add the two 'lengths' (ie: a2 b2) on the left that connect 27 and 12, and add the lengths of where 12 and 15 meet. 3) use that to figure out the total area of the rectangle formed. 4) subtract the total area of the 3 triangles. 5) left with the area for the blue triangle? :) *quick edit* When i say "solve for a2,b2,c2" i also mean to take into account that the two sides that connect 12 and 15 at the bottom combined must also = the x2 that makes up the top side of 27, and that the x2's for 27 and 12 = that of the right side of 15
@tungyeeso3637
@tungyeeso3637 11 ай бұрын
I like your approach as much as I like your accent. The former is appealing, the latter comforting. Thanks.
@sumantabanerjee8287
@sumantabanerjee8287 9 ай бұрын
Reminded me of my good old school days!! Thanks, Maa'm, for the nice explanation!! 🙏😊
@user-rf5lg9py4i
@user-rf5lg9py4i 3 ай бұрын
Cool ! I've just come back to school 😊. Everything is clear
@colinmccarthy7921
@colinmccarthy7921 5 ай бұрын
It’s not what you do,it’s the way you do it.Mathematics has Theorems,Equations,,Etc.Simplification is of the Essence.❤️.
@The_NSeven
@The_NSeven 7 ай бұрын
Great solution. Explained it very well :)
@richardleveson6467
@richardleveson6467 8 ай бұрын
Really nice explanation - and a nice problem too! Thank you
@santiagoarosam430
@santiagoarosam430 Жыл бұрын
If in the blue triangle we draw a horizontal line and a vertical line through the left and lower vertices respectively, the initial rectangle that contains all the triangles is divided into a grid of 2x2 rectangular cells that we will call, from left to right and from top to bottom , A, B, C and D ⇒ C=2x12=24; A+B=2x27=54; B+D=2x15=30 ⇒ A=54-B; D=30-B ⇒ A/C=B/D ⇒ (54-B)/24=B/(30-B) ⇒ (54-B)x(30-B)=24B ⇒ B²-108B+1620= 0 ⇒ B=18 ⇒ Initial rectangle area = (A+B)+(B+D)-B+C = 54+30-18+24=90 ⇒ Blue triangle area = 90-27-12-15=36
@chrscb
@chrscb 5 ай бұрын
So simple! Cheers.
@user-nm2yz3qb2z
@user-nm2yz3qb2z 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding explantion without delays. Funny EO2 don't look paralel to CB in your draw, take a bit more care with your draw 😊😊
@icems.a.6645
@icems.a.6645 Жыл бұрын
Muy bueno, como los otros que he visto en este canal . 👍
@geoffreyparfitt7003
@geoffreyparfitt7003 Жыл бұрын
The important feature of this type of problem is that the blue area is exactly defined but the dimensions of the rectangle are not unique. Therefore one dimension of the rectangle can be conveniently decided by you, such as a width of 9 units, or a height of 10 units. Either of those choices leads to a simple quadratic that gives the other dimension and consequently the area of the rectangle.
@subhashchavhan8365
@subhashchavhan8365 Жыл бұрын
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@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
There's just 1 integer-only solution with x-dim > y-dim like the drawing. You found 1 of 3 integer-only solutions that's unlike the drawing.
@davidp4427
@davidp4427 Жыл бұрын
Great insight, thanks. Just to test your shortcut in extremis, I chose 54 for the lenght of the rectangle which resulted in the width of the rectangle being 1 2/3, the area of the rectangle equal to 90, and the area of the triangle equal to 36.
@simonliu8174
@simonliu8174 7 ай бұрын
let's make the multiplication easier, and make the catheti of the bottom-left rectangle as x and y, then we have 1) xy/2=12 2) b(a-x)/2 = 27 3) a(b-y)/2=15. obviously, 12+15=27, let's add them up and get: xy+ab-ay=ab-bx => bx = ay - xy => b/y = (a-x)/x This means the 2 right rectangles with the areas 27 and 12 are similar rectangles. so b/y = (a-x)/x = sqrt(27/12) = sqrt(9/4) = 3/2 => y=2b/3, x = 2a/5 => xy/2 = 2ab/15=12 => ab = 90 => S = ab - 27 - 12 -15 = 36
@FreddieWu
@FreddieWu 3 ай бұрын
A more geometric way of understanding this: Annotate the rectangle as ABCD from top-left corner in clockwise order. Let its area be x. Annotate the left tip of the shaded triangle as E (E is located on edge AD), the bottom tip as F (F is on edge CD). Now, connect the opposite apexes of the rectangle as BD. S(BDE)/S(ABD) = S(BDE)/0.5x = (0.5x-27)/0.5x = (x-54)/x. S(BDF)/S(BCD) = S(BDF)/0.5x = (0.5x-15)/0.5x = (x-30)/x. So, DE/AD = (x-54)/x, DF/CD = (x-30)/x. Thus, S(DEF) = 12 = 0.5*[(x-54)/x]*[(x-30)/x]*x. Move terms to the left: 24x = (x-54)(x-30). We get x^2 - 108x + 1620 = 0.
@nassernasser879
@nassernasser879 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, thanks a lot!
@shadrana1
@shadrana1 9 ай бұрын
Using Pythagoras,I calculated the sides of the blue triangle sqrt(117),sqrt(52) and sqrt(109) and using a Herons Formula calculator and surprise,surprise the area of the blue triangle came out at 36 sq. units. let a=sqrt117,b=sqrt52 and c=sqrt109 Heron's formula; in terms of the sides a,b and c. Ablue=sqrt(4a^2*b^2-(a^2+b^2-c^2)^2)/4 =sqrt(4*117*52-(117+52-109)^2)/4 =sqrt(208*117-60^2)/4 =sqrt(24336-3600)/4 =sqrt(20736)/4 =144/4 =36 sq.units. This checks our answer out using Pythagoras and Heron.
@RameshPatel-bb9jm
@RameshPatel-bb9jm Жыл бұрын
very neat method!
@StreakingTiger
@StreakingTiger 5 ай бұрын
I just guessed at the numbers that make up 54, 30, and 24 (1/2bh of each triangle * 2) and came up with rectangle 10 * 9 = 90. Then just subtracted 90-12-15-27 = 36. It would have been much harder if the sides were fractions instead of whole numbers. I was a math major 50 years ago, but this would have been harder if the triangles were 25, 14 and 17 for example.
@pravinomanna5570
@pravinomanna5570 Жыл бұрын
Thank u mam. So good explanation🙏
@JayTemple
@JayTemple Жыл бұрын
Once I worked out the answer and the fact that we can't determine the actual dimensions, I figured out the relative lengths: The left side is broken into segments in a ratio of 3 (top) to 2 (bottom), and the bottom side is broken into segments in a ratio of 2 (left) to 1 (right).
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but you can create a set of parametric equations to generate a solution set based on a chosen constant. With i > 0, the parametric solution for the 6 outer segments is: x = 3*i, x1 = 2*i, x2 = i, y = 30/i, y1 = 12/i, y2 = 18/i. I posted the general solution separately.
@Ramkabharosa
@Ramkabharosa Жыл бұрын
Area(Blue Δ) = √{(A+B+C)² - 4.A.B} = √{(27+15+12)² - 4.(27).(15)} = √{4.(27)² - 4.(27).(15)} = √{4(27)(3)}.√{9-5} = √{4(9)(9)}.√4 = 36. Here A = area of Δ with one side being the width of the rectangle and B = area of Δ with one side being the height of the rectangle. ------------ Let Δ= area of blue triangle, A = area of 27, B = area of 15 and C= area of 12. Let u=horizontal side of C, v= vertical side of C, a=width, b=height of rectangle. Then A+B+C+Δ=ab. Also uv=2C=2(12), b(a-u)=2B=2(15), and a(b-v)=2A=2(27). So bu=ab-2B & av=ba-2A. ∴ 0= (ab-2B)(ba-2A) - ab(uv)= (ab-2B)(ab-2A) - ab(2C). So (ab)² -2(ab)(A+B+C)+ 4AB=0. ∴ (A+B+C+Δ)² -2(A+B+C+Δ).(A+B+C)+ 4AB=0. Let E=A+B+C. Then (E+Δ)² -2(E+Δ).E +4AB=0. ∴ E²+2EΔ+Δ² -2E² -2ΔE +4AB=0. So Δ² = E² - 4AB = (A+B+C)² - 4AB. ∴ Δ= √{(A+B+C)² - 4AB}, since Δ>0. .
@MrRandycrum
@MrRandycrum Жыл бұрын
I like this method, but I do not know where you got the first formula for the area of the blue triangle.
@user-zd3mm7pc2h
@user-zd3mm7pc2h 11 ай бұрын
In the second part of your comment, you have written 0 = (ab - 2A)(ab - 2B).. How the product can be zero.. could you kindly explain pl.. though I have got the answer using the quadratic method.. but I am wondering how the direct formula has been derived and I saw ur derivation.. but that product step equals 0 am not getting that.. could u pl help @Ramkabharosa
@Ramkabharosa
@Ramkabharosa 11 ай бұрын
What was written was: ∴ 0 = (ab-2B)(ba-2A) - ab(uv) = (ab-2B)(ab-2A) -ab(2C). You forgot about the " - ab(uv) " . The rest is algebraic manipulations.
@user-zd3mm7pc2h
@user-zd3mm7pc2h 11 ай бұрын
@@Ramkabharosa Thanks a lot I understood ur derivation
@Stanislaw2344
@Stanislaw2344 Жыл бұрын
Velmi pěkný příklad.
@federicojrduran9464
@federicojrduran9464 Жыл бұрын
little bit hard for me to understand but I do believe that constant practice makes a man's perfect
@quigonkenny
@quigonkenny Ай бұрын
I eyeballed the known-size triangles and realized that their xy proportions appear to correspond to their most obvious denominators. In other words, the area 15 triangle appears to be 3×5, the area 12 triangle appears to be 2×6, and the area 27 triangle appears to be 3×9. Obviously those aren't their actual height and base values, as they would be off by a factor of 2, so I assumed an additional factor of √2 for each dimension, and the math fell into place. The area 15 triangle has height 5√2 and base 3√2, the area 12 triangle has height 2√2 and base 6√2, etc. From that I ended up with a rectangle of dimensions 9√2 (w) by 5√2 (h), and from there it was fairly simple to determine the rectangle area to be 90 and the blue triangle area to be 36.
@rogeriocezarsilva1900
@rogeriocezarsilva1900 Жыл бұрын
Muito bom!!!
@christosmani
@christosmani 3 ай бұрын
I found the area of the rectangle being 45, the sides being clockwise 5, 3+6, 2+3 and 9 on top. All the areas of the side triangles were more than 45 and I could figure out how that was possible until I realized that the area of a triangle is HALF the sides multiplication!!!
@adamverbik8920
@adamverbik8920 Жыл бұрын
Решил в уме за 2 минуты без всех этих расчетов... 27=3x9 12=2x6 15=3x5 3+2=5 5x9=45 45x2=90 27+12+15=54 90-54=36 :)
@jokiri46
@jokiri46 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for this ❤
@Frisbieinstein
@Frisbieinstein 5 ай бұрын
I just guessed the sides of the triangles. It worked after a bit of fiddling around.
@sondanbasa9502
@sondanbasa9502 8 ай бұрын
ok. very good. but what happens when you have to solve it within 45 seconds in the Turkish university field exam AYT?
@josyms7849
@josyms7849 11 ай бұрын
Explained very well
@admnner21111
@admnner21111 Жыл бұрын
Good job 💕❤️👌🏿
@alster724
@alster724 2 ай бұрын
Okay, I got it! Thanks.
@txlish
@txlish Жыл бұрын
Good Job!
@LEARN.ALL.IN.ONE.ACADEMY
@LEARN.ALL.IN.ONE.ACADEMY Жыл бұрын
THANK FOR GOOD EXPLANATION,
@Eskay1206
@Eskay1206 9 ай бұрын
and to simplify, determine the area of the rectangle and minus the existing areas. did it in my head in about 3 minutes, no need for those calculations for this problem. and Im a carpenter
@KipIngram
@KipIngram 2 ай бұрын
Let height be H, width be W, and let w and h be "factors" splitting the sides. Then h*w*(H*W) = 24 (1-w)*(H*W) = 30 (1-h)*(H*W) = 54 blue = (H*W) - 54 Regard h, w, and the product H*W as variables and consider the first three equations. h*w*HW = 24 --> HW = 24/(h*w) HW - w*HW = 30 --> 24/(h*w) - 24/h = 30 --> 4/(h*w) - 4/h = 5 HW - h*HW = 54 --> 24/(h*w) - 24/w = 54 --> 4/(h*w) - 4/w = 9 Rearranging the last two equations and equating, 5 + 4/h = 9 + 4/w By inspection, h = 2/5, w = 2/3 satisfies this, and in fact along with HW = 90 we get all three equations satisfied. Therefore, by the final equation above for "blue" we have blue = 90 - 54 = 36. This would have been more laborious had we not been able to "expect" a tidy solution (these KZbin problems almost always seem to have tidy solutions).
@DrMikeE100
@DrMikeE100 2 ай бұрын
A few quibbles: Writing ay would be more consistent than ya as you are comparing to bx. To be further consistent, why not multiply the third equation by 2 right away, as well? But, I would not have used a and b for the rectangle, given that you are using a, b, c quadratic formula and that could cause confusion with a and b each being used two different ways. On the plus side, sound strategy, so great on that. But you should redo this to overcome these three points... Oh, well...
@PaulMurrayCanberra
@PaulMurrayCanberra Жыл бұрын
I wonder what that second solution is all about.
@kkleta
@kkleta 3 ай бұрын
with guessing 15x2=30=3x10 12x2=24=6x4 27x2=54=9x(10-4) so we can easily see one lane is10, the other is 9, area of rectangle is 9x10=90 blue are is 90-27-12-15=36 this looks like a simple way.
@michellauzon4640
@michellauzon4640 11 ай бұрын
Let consider rectangles instead of triangles. A1 = bx , A2 = ay, A3 = (b-y)(a-x) and A4 = xy. A1, A2 and A3 are known. Then A4*A4 - (A1+A2+A3)*A4 + A1*A2 = 0. This comes from if a rectangle is subdivised by 4 subretangles R1, R2, R3 and R4 (clockwise), then Area(R1) * Area(R3) = Area(R2) * Area(R4) In this problem, we find A4 = xy = 18 and then ab = 90.
@Doshdo
@Doshdo Жыл бұрын
If 27=A, 12=B and 15=C, then the blue area is sqrt((A+B+C)²-4AC).
@RhanMidnite
@RhanMidnite 8 ай бұрын
so cool, so good. And your voice is very well :-)
@user-kn6sw2jl2p
@user-kn6sw2jl2p Жыл бұрын
We denote the vertices of the rectangle with A F D B We denote the vertices of the blue triangle with A E C First: we draw from C a column (plumb) so it cuts AF at point G and cuts AE at point N Second: we draw from point E a straight line parallel to straight line DB then cuts AB at point S and cuts CG at point M Third: We draw from point N ((note the point N is already defined as the point of intersection of the line CG with AE)) We draw a line parallel to both ES and DB that cuts AB at point R and cuts FD at point J CM=MN because ME is an internal bisector of angle E. We note that: EMC=EDC=12 and also NME=NJE=12 Because EMC is half of the rectangle EMCD And because NME is half of the rectangle NMEJ It is clear that CM=MN Because ME is the internal bisector of angle E and EMC=EDC=NME=NJE Now JNFA is a trapezoid whose area is JNFA=AFE-NJE = 27-12 =15 and also the area of ​​the ANSM trapezoid is ANSM= AFES-(AFE+NME) =(2AFS )- (AFE+NME) =2(27) - (27+12) =15 since ARN=ANG and AHMN=JFNA= 15 then NRMH=FJNG hence FG=2AG JN=2AG hence AF=3AG (AF+JN)×FJ/2=15 (3AG+2AG)FJ=30 5(AG)×FJ=30 AG×FJ=6 =ARNG ARN=AGN=3 AGBC=15×2=30 ANC=AGBC-(ABC+AGN) ANC=30-(15+3)=12 ACE=ANC+NEM+EMC ACE=12+12+12=36 .................................... (marginal note): including If NM=JE=ED=2FJ=2NG=2AR, and because DF=DE+EJ+JF, then DF=5JF .......................... ......................
@kensumsa4545
@kensumsa4545 6 ай бұрын
U’re powerfull
@user-dc1ud6px3s
@user-dc1ud6px3s Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the daily brain breakfast.
@arbo1219
@arbo1219 6 ай бұрын
К1, К2, К3, К4, К5, К6 - катеты треугольников 15, 12, 27 по часовой стрелке. Треугольник 15. К1 × К2 / 2 = 15. К1 × К2 = 2 × 3 × 5. К1 = 2 × 5 = 10; К2 = 3. Треугольник 12. К3 × К4 / 2 = 12. К3 × К4 = 2 × 2 × 2 × 3. К3 = 2 × 3 = 6; К4 = 2 × 2 = 4. Треугольник 27. К5 × К6 / 2 = 27. К5 × К6 = 2 × 3 × 3 × 3. К5 = 2 × 3 = 6; К6 = 3 × 3 = 9. Равенство противоположных сторон прямоугольника: К1 = К4 + К5 = 10 = 4 + 6; К6 = К2 + К3 = 9 = 3 + 6. Площадь прямоугольника равна 9 × 10 = 90. Площадь синего треугольника равна 90 -- (15 + 12 + 27) = 36
@wraith6776
@wraith6776 8 ай бұрын
very interesting. I'm very out of practice with this kind of question.
@user-wj2vw9ex6x
@user-wj2vw9ex6x 9 ай бұрын
An easier way: Use a straight line split the "∆15" as 2 pieces: small right∆ and small obtuse∆. Let the height of the small right ∆ is as same as the the "∆12". we call it "∆x", and then we call another obtuse piece "∆(15-x)". And then you can consider that: ∆12 and ∆x could combine to a new triangle as long as ∆27. We have this formula: 27/(12+x)=(15-x)/x 180-24x-x^2=0 x=6 Continue, if we combine more∆: we can found that : 27+12+x = half rectangle. Then (27+12+6)x2 = 27+12+15+∆blue= whole rectangle. ∆blue=36
@ArthurWatts-ed4oj
@ArthurWatts-ed4oj 8 ай бұрын
1/2 base X perpendicular height =6X15=90!! Easy peasy
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 8 ай бұрын
How can you determine that the height of the smaller half of the bisected triangle is the same as the that of triangle=12?
@murdock5537
@murdock5537 10 ай бұрын
awesome, many thanks!
@MohammadSami-ul-lah
@MohammadSami-ul-lah Жыл бұрын
Nice solution.
@TheMathDistrict
@TheMathDistrict Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
Here's a general solution to find the lengths of each of the 6 outer segments. The inner segments can be found with the Pythagorean formula. We place the lower left corner on the (0,0) origin for the X & Y axes, give the segments x & y names, and then solve. The top segment is x; the bottom 2 segments are left x1 & right x2. The right segment is y; the left 2 segments are bottom y1 & top y2. All segments & areas are greater than 0. We have these 5 equations using 6 variables: ε1: x = x1+x2 -> x1 = x-x2 ε2: y = y1+y2 -> y1 = y-y2 ε3: x*y2/2 = 27 -> y2 = 54/x ε4: x2*y/2 = 15 -> x2 = 30/y ε5: x1*y1/2 = 12 -> ... (x-x2)*(y-y2) = 24 (x-30/y)*(y-54/x) = 24 (x*y-30)*(x*y-54) = 24*x*y (x*y)^2 - 108*(x*y) + 1620 = 0 The quadratic equation in x*y is solved as: x*y = [108 ± √(108^2 - 4*1620)]/2 = 54 ± √(54^2 - 1620) = 54 ± √(54*(54 - 30)) = 54 ± √(54*24) = 54 ± √(81*16) = 54 ± 36 ε6: The area of the rectangle is x*y and the area of inscribed triangle, T, is: T = x*y - 27 - 15 - 12 = (54 ± 36) - 54 = ± 36 ∴ T = 36, x*y = 90. We may further solve for each symbol: ε3': y2 = 54/(90/y) = y*3/5 ε2': y1 = y-(y*3/5) = y*2/5 ε4': x2 = 30/(90/x) = x/3 ε1': x1 = x-(x/3) = x*2/3 Thus, we have the relative length of each segment. Let x/3 = i, y/5 = j: x1 = 2*i, x2 = i, x = 3*i, y1 = 2*j, y2 = 3*j, y = 5*j. Parameters i & j are linked by: ε6: (3*i)*(5*j) = 90 -> j = 6/i With i > 0, the parametric solution for the 6 outer segments is: x = 3*i, x1 = 2*i, x2 = i, y = 30/i, y1 = 12/i, y2 = 18/i. Although there are an infinite number of real solutions, there are just 4 solutions having only integers. The previous equations in i & j all have integer coefficients; if i & j are integers, all 6 lengths are integers. We choose i to be an integer and a factor of 6, so j = 6/i is an integer, too. For i = 1, we have: x = 3, x1 = 2, x2 = 1, y = 30, y1 = 12, y2 = 18. For i = 2, we have: x = 6, x1 = 4, x2 = 2, y = 15, y1 = 6, y2 = 9. For i = 3, we have: x = 9, x1 = 6, x2 = 3, y = 10, y1 = 4, y2 = 6. For i = 6, we have: x = 18, x1 = 12, x2 = 6, y = 5, y1 = 2, y2 = 3. The last integer solution is the best fit for the drawing, where x > y.
@terryjohinke8065
@terryjohinke8065 4 ай бұрын
I like your method.
@MasterYoist
@MasterYoist 6 ай бұрын
That's one way to do it. Meanwhile we should be able to solve this in our heads in about 15 seconds. This video had way too many unnecessary steps. But, it did work.
@adrianyaguar7666
@adrianyaguar7666 7 ай бұрын
There's also no need for "normal" quadratic equation. You can consider all lenghts in terms of x and this lenght (a-x), which should be y. Then you ll get equation which yelds 18y^2 = 8x^2, so 3y=2x, and then y=2/3 x (of course only positive solutions) . Now you got lenghts of all sides in terms of x (another words, we know the proportions of all lenghts) :) Amazing how many approaches can be done here :) im curious if there is pure 'visual' solution.
@leolin3207
@leolin3207 Жыл бұрын
Not efficient, you need to utilize the geometry properties reassign (a-x) as a, and (b-y) as b, let x be (w*a) instead and let y be (k*b) We know that 27+12 does not equal to half the rectangle, However, 27+12+(k*12) is the same size as half the rectangle (if you r wondering why, this is pretty much the same as 27+a*(b+k*b)/2 = 27+a*b/2+k*a*b/2, if a*b/2=12, then k*a*b/2=k*12) By analogy, 15+12 does not equal half of the rectangle, but 15+12+(w*12) does Thus 27+12+(k*12)= 15+12+(w*12) k+1=w (a*b)/2=12 and (w*a)*(k*b+b)/2=27 since w=k+1, (w*a)*(k*b+b)/2=27 is the same as [(k+1)^2]*a*b/2=27 divide a*b from both sides you’ll get (k+1)^2=9/4, thus k+1=3/2, k=1/2 With this, you should be able to solve the area of the blue triangle pretty easily
@vageshshankar8203
@vageshshankar8203 Жыл бұрын
Tuka method- It can be also done using hit and trial method using co-factors of the given three triangle
@dimitardonev4507
@dimitardonev4507 5 ай бұрын
I just solved it by letting b = 9 because 9x6 is one position factorization of 54, then let a = 10 because 10x3 is one possible factorization of 30, then checked what’s left for a - x and b - y which is 4 and 6 respectively with product 24, which made all the triangles valid and the solution was then very simple it took me 3 minutes. Actually it took me way longer to write this comment.
@JPTaquari
@JPTaquari Жыл бұрын
I could have set up some equations and solve it easily, but I found it so easy that I solved it mentally: * Triangle com 15 m² = 3 * 10 / 2 = 15 * Triangle com 12 m² = 4 * 6 = 24 /2 = 12 * Triangle com 27 m² = 6 * 9 = 54 / 2 = 27 Area blue triangle, 90 - 54 = 36 m² Bingo! Saludo from Brazil!!!!!
@italixgaming915
@italixgaming915 Жыл бұрын
My solution: Let's call a and b the length of the rectangle and x and y the lengths from the left bottom corner to the points where the little triangles meet each other. So we have, from the formula of the area of the right triangles: a.(b-x)=54 ; xy=24 ; (a-y).b=30. And the area of the blue triangle is just A=ab-54. From the first equation we know that a=54/(b-x) and from the second one we know that x=24/y then a=54/(b-24/y)=54y/(yb-24) Reintroduce that into the third equation: yb.(54/(yb-24)-1)=30 yb.(78-yb)/(yb-24)=30 yb(78-yb)=30(yb-24) (yb)²-48yb-720=0 (yb-24)²=(yb)²-48yb+576 then (yb-24)²=720+576=1296=36². We know that yb-24>0 since 24 is the area of the bottom part of the rectangle we can draw in the bottom left corner from the small triangle, and yb is the area of a bigger rectangle with the little rectangle inside it. Then yb-24=36 then yb=60. But from the third equation we know that ab=yb+30=90 Then the area is 90-54=36
@michellauzon4640
@michellauzon4640 11 ай бұрын
I did something similar.
@charlesokuom8747
@charlesokuom8747 4 ай бұрын
Well explained
@shrikrishnagokhale3557
@shrikrishnagokhale3557 Жыл бұрын
I have prepared myself a formula for such a problem,which enables to find area of any one triangle out of these four triangles if areas of remaining three triangles are known.
@jayeshkumar3861
@jayeshkumar3861 Жыл бұрын
Pls share those formulas....
@moshemaor1731
@moshemaor1731 10 ай бұрын
We could make the solving a bit easier, if, at the end of the solving, we assign: m=a*b. By this the process is more clear.
@peregrin71
@peregrin71 3 ай бұрын
Wow so compilicated. The top area = 54/2 so you end up with 9x6 for the size of the rectangle, the right triangle fits in a rectangle of 3x10, the bottom left fits in a rectangle of 6x4. So the outer rectangle has a size of 9x10. And then 90-27-15-12 = 36. No need for quadratics at all.
@cv990a4
@cv990a4 3 ай бұрын
What you showed was that if the area of the triangle is the same for all possible rectangles and triangles with the dimensions shown, then it's 36. That's not the same thing as showing it's always 36.
@soumyasharma5318
@soumyasharma5318 8 ай бұрын
Goodness!! Such a long solution. Quick logical Maths will tell you that l = 18 and b = 5, where l and b are lengths and breaths. Total area of rectangle = 18x5 = 90,area of triangle = 90- 27-12-15 = 36. Cracked it beacuse 27 can only be 9x3, hence l= 18 will give you 27 and rest you can figure out easily :) , this shouldn't take more than 30 seconds, tops!
@tutorchristabel
@tutorchristabel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, well explained
@OrenLikes
@OrenLikes 9 ай бұрын
you should have swapped x and y... horizontal is usually x, and vertical is usually y...
@JLee-rt6ve
@JLee-rt6ve Жыл бұрын
You should have used letters other than a and b for the length and width (l and w, for example) because the letters are also used for the quadratic equation, which can cause confusion.
@ronm3245
@ronm3245 11 ай бұрын
The confusion of the lesson, with the symbols, can be lessened. But the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.
@alster724
@alster724 2 ай бұрын
Why go for Quadratic Formula? Basic factoring is an easier way (ab)²-108ab+1620=0 (a-90b)(a-18b) a= 90b, 18b Then of course, we follow the larger value
@SaarSergey
@SaarSergey Жыл бұрын
15=3*5; 27=3*9; 12=3*4=2*6 2+3=5; 6+3=9; a=5*2^0,5; b=9*2^0,5 аb=2*5*9=90 90-27-12-15=36
@colinslant
@colinslant Жыл бұрын
Great little problem.
@getnie6867
@getnie6867 6 ай бұрын
These types of questions are fun but damn are they lenghty... It felt like i was playing hide and seek with this until i finally got 36
@martinhosengia7666
@martinhosengia7666 Жыл бұрын
You made math more beaultifull than it is..thanks...very creative
@anastassiosperakis2869
@anastassiosperakis2869 10 ай бұрын
Not at all, she made the rest of us feel like 5 year old children, the way she had to explain the OBVIOUS. And Math is BEAUTIFUL EVEN MORE if your tiny brain cannot understand it, but you would not know.
@Fatjack-jy8gs
@Fatjack-jy8gs 3 ай бұрын
Hey! Maths is stunningly beautiful.
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes Жыл бұрын
It's weird that you can just guess x or y and it all works. if y=3, x=6. if y=5, x=3.6
@stvrob6320
@stvrob6320 Жыл бұрын
A rather convoluted solution. If you assume from the outset that the base and height of each given triangle would be integers, you can quickly find all the factors of 54, 24, and 30. Then by simple inspection you can just sort out that the dimensions of the large triangle must be 18*5. If you were wrong about your guess that these would be integers, you would find that out pretty quickly and do it pretty much the way explained in the video.
@anastassiosperakis2869
@anastassiosperakis2869 10 ай бұрын
THIS WAS NOT THE PROBLEM GIVEN. YOU CANNOT (REPEAT CANNOT) assume that the continuous variables are INTEGERS!!!!
@stvrob6320
@stvrob6320 10 ай бұрын
@@anastassiosperakis2869 Of course you can. In this case it worked just fine.
@davidmackie3497
@davidmackie3497 Жыл бұрын
I "cheated", and assumed the diagram was to scale. Eyeballing it, I thought, "3*9=27, 2*6=12, and 5*3=15. Also have 3+2=5 and 6+3=9. Cool." But of course, AreaTriangle=B*H/2 not B*H. So, I needed to multiply all my lengths by sqrt(2) to make the areas of the yellow triangles correct. Now my assumption has been shown to provide at least one possible answer that matches all the given info. Then, for the area of the rectangle, I have: sqrt(2)*5 * sqrt(2)*9 = 2*45 = 90. Then the area of the blue part is 90 - 27 -12 -15 = 90 - (27*2) = 90 - 54 = 36. I did this all in my head in 2 minutes. QED. If you are solving this problem in general, then of course my method is stupid. (Like, if the yellow areas were 26, 13.2, and 5*pi.) In general, you have to use the method in the video. But if this is one problem on the math part of the SAT or GRE, then you don't have time to do things properly. Make an assumption; see if the result bears out your assumption; your answer should match one of the choices. Bam! Fill in that circle and move on.
@non-displaynon-display9122
@non-displaynon-display9122 Жыл бұрын
There is no need for such complicated calculations, just use the staring method to get the side lengths of the three triangles together. 9*6, 4*6, 3*10, you can easily calculate the area of ​​the rectangle as 9*10=90. Then the area of ​​the middle triangle is 90-27-12-15=36.
@pakdionmtk
@pakdionmtk 4 ай бұрын
Thanks you,, i am watch for 3 minute and subscribe later
@thor4694
@thor4694 8 ай бұрын
interesting puzzle if the triangle wouldnt meet any corner
@hassanmukhtar3326
@hassanmukhtar3326 11 ай бұрын
Which text editor are you using?
@flocerfida1
@flocerfida1 Жыл бұрын
The area of the rectangle is 90 minus the areas of the three triangles given as 27, 15, and 12 so 90-54 =36
@stvrob6320
@stvrob6320 Жыл бұрын
yep, and 90 = 18*3, which are the only integers that will fit. Of course if they were not integer values, you'd need t do it the way shown on the video.
@RAVEN-ng8qc
@RAVEN-ng8qc 2 ай бұрын
(ab)^2-108ab+1620まで出てしまえば解の公式を使わなくても たすき掛けの因数分解で(ab-18)(ab-90)=0が出せますね。
@cicerochen313
@cicerochen313 9 ай бұрын
a+b=108 and ab=1620. we know a or b must be less the square root of 1620. Then it gets the greatest integer 40. From the following pairs, you could find the clue. (a, b): (40,68), (20,88), (18,90) --- for ab = 1620, one of the pair should be I*10
@user-zr1gk7ho6y
@user-zr1gk7ho6y 2 ай бұрын
We have in general case: BlueArea² = SumTriangleAreas² - 4*WideTriangleArea * HighTriangleArea Test it now!
@ccc40476
@ccc40476 5 ай бұрын
It's easy to guess the answer to this question, but it's tiring to write down the calculation process.
@jimwinchester339
@jimwinchester339 Жыл бұрын
What's so interesting about this particular problem is we never go back and re-substitute; that is, we only arrive at the product (a*b) - - we never solve for either one; or for that matter, for (x) or (y), either.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Жыл бұрын
There is no unique solution for a & b, so you couldn't solve for those anyway. It works for any rectangle where a * b = 90. Also, if you know the area of any 3 of the triangles you can also work out the area of the fourth. All very satisfactory.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
In another comment, I created a set of 6 parametric equations to generate any of the infinite real solutions. There are just 4 integer-only solutions, and just 1 with x-dim > y-dim as in the drawing.
@user-zh3cx5mr3f
@user-zh3cx5mr3f 4 ай бұрын
把長方形分成四份 令右上為x 右下30-x 左上54-x 左下24 則24x=(54-x)(30-x) X=90or18 90不合 X=18帶入 長方形面積為54+24+(30-18)=90 答案為90-27-15-12=36
@EisFunnyLetter
@EisFunnyLetter Жыл бұрын
nice, i kinda did an uneffective way, found factors of the areas - got to 90, subtracted to 36.
@TheMathDistrict
@TheMathDistrict Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comment. It is always a good idea to try new methods for solving problems.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
@The Math District: I continued the work on the problem to create a set of 6 parametric equations to generate a solution set for a chosen parameter. There are an infinite number of solutions. With further analysis, I found 4 integer-only solutions, of which, only 1 has x-dim > y-dim like in the drawing. I hope you review it!
@iainfulton3781
@iainfulton3781 Жыл бұрын
I like the way you say a and also like the way you say b
@TheMathDistrict
@TheMathDistrict Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Kaizite
@Kaizite 8 ай бұрын
you can do this very easily with simple multiplication
@MrMichelX3
@MrMichelX3 Жыл бұрын
great !
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