OK, before the negative comments that accuse me of "You don't know what you are doing!', or "You are doing it wrong!" I will stress one more time I am a complete novice with these pans, using them for the first time. Going only by the manufacturer's demonstration videos and other KZbin videos. I have taken what I have learned from watching these and trying to make it fit the situation I have here. Yes I make mistakes. Also I am using the most difficult material I can find for these tests, no chance of 100% recovery from ANY pan. If I wanted Higher recovery rates from every pan I would have got easier material with bigger gold. But I wanted losses so I could emphasize or separate the pans recovery rates more. If they all showed 100% it would not be much of a comparison.
@brainretardant4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry about making mistakes Dan, you are living everyone's dream out here in "I dont live near frasier river world" It took me a long time to learn the finesse of a gold pan cause I just went to the hardware store and bought a sluice. You are a master at the pan, especially since it is that gigantic big green Garrett. I bought a turbo pan so I dont have to manipulate it so much. Just a swirl/shake/dump Keep up the good work making free men dream of finding gold.
@kloppanator4 жыл бұрын
I think you did a good job of emphasizing your lack of experience with this pan, the likelihood that a more experienced user would get better results, and welcoming constructive criticism on your technique as well as personal feedback on the pan from viewers who have used it.
@douglaszoubek77884 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you didn't set that pyramid pan in a bucket as a stand while shoveling into it. Wake up Dan LOL
@ItsNotMeItsYou0074 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers video with what appears to be similar material. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWm3oWqth8R3jJI
@jacksmimi20114 жыл бұрын
Never!!! You do a great job! Our comment was only a suggestion. We love your videos!
@VoGusProspecting4 жыл бұрын
These reviews are well thought out, well executed and honest. Anyone who disagrees with the results needs to reevaluate how they conduct their objective opinions.
@troy3tarin4 жыл бұрын
Precisely, I already know the gold hog will lose 1/3 material put in based solely on common sense, as for the pyramid pan, I remember dan saying it's meant for clay material but it looked like a struggle for river material, I dont know how clay could do better.
@doncole69984 жыл бұрын
Amen, Vo-Gus !
@juliepaquette20244 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right he conducted the test exactly how it should be conducted with controls. I also appreciate the way you approach mining and prospecting. And I have learned a few things watching your videos. Thank you
@GreenMountainGoldTrap4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@omegaseamaster15504 жыл бұрын
So says the Beardless man from Down Under ;) I think Dan has been watching a few of yours and Grizzes productions Chris !!
@randydiver3076 Жыл бұрын
1. When you fill the pan. Set it on an open bucket of water. Like the last image. The water gives you a stable base. 2. Work the pan completely under water. 3. Focus on clay materials. The riffles are not riffles they are blades to break up the clay. I’ve seen this pan get 165 grams of gold in 6 days work. Thank you for reviewing. ❤
@syneyed4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan! I'm a big fan and fellow prospector from the PNW(I live in Washington State.) I bought my pyramid pro pans(2 of them) directly from Dennis about 4 years ago. I can tell you off the bat you NEVER pan off the side of the pyramid pro. If you find yourself down here; I'd be more than happy to show you how to properly use them. Also, since you know any gold pan can catch big gold...I'll show you how to make this thing catch flour.
@arshfarm93724 жыл бұрын
Can I just say I have a lot of stress, Anxiety, and depression I started watching your vids and didn’t think much. Seeing you so happy positive trying to find gold made me go get a pan and start to have some fun. It is helping so far and relaxing me. I just wanted to say thanks for your vids and you earned my subscription.😁
@jeremyhess79772 жыл бұрын
The reason why the videos help you is because you need something engaging to focus on besides what's bothering you. I started watching Dan's videos for the same reasons, and also out of general curiosity about gold panning. Now, I actually go out once in a while and do a few pans when I have time (I keep a pan, shovel, and a few small tools in my truck's bed mount toolbox). Interacting with the natural world helps a lot of people with anxiety disorders (i.e.; anxiety, panic disorder, PTSD, etc.). Panning is a good way to get outside and do something entertaining to take your mind off of everyday life for a little while. And if you find some gold, then all the better. I also became a certified beekeeper because I like how busy and organized honeybees are....it's fascinating and mesmerizing at times. Again, I'm outside, focused on a task, and enjoying taking care of my bees who make liquid gold. Try to find something you really like to do and go for it....it may make you feel better and less stressed, which has more value than all of the gold in the world.
@JimNichols4 жыл бұрын
12 million responses and no one understands, you are outside, you are doing something that you obviously love, this is your passion and it just radiates from your persona that THIS IS YOUR PASSION. love the voice, love the slow, easy way you seem to have. Thumbs up Dan Hurd, live long and prospect.... :)
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@magking19714 жыл бұрын
Remember who made the most money during the gold rushes, the people who sold the equipment.
@itsclearasmud77182 жыл бұрын
And the pimps.
@laszlosoltesz37724 жыл бұрын
I've been using the pyramid pan for a couple of years. I love mine. One of the best tools in my kit.
@umakinmenutz59664 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video made by a customer who likes it. Would you have a problem panning in that tub or using that material?
@laszlosoltesz37724 жыл бұрын
@@umakinmenutz5966 Thanks for the request, I'm flattered. I've never made a video before and can't see myself being in one. However if you google pyramid pan, you will find videos by the inventor who explains and shows everything.
@umakinmenutz59664 жыл бұрын
@@laszlosoltesz3772 Hey no problem if you do not want to make a video. I have seen their videos already. I just really want to see a test done by someone who likes it and is not the one selling it. There are videos of people using it but that does not tell you if there are losses and how much they are. But I would expect a better capture rate from someone who has used it and likes it than otherwise.
@touristiqueducanada3464 жыл бұрын
I’ve had one for 3 years , you’re supposed to keep the pan under the water for stratification , That’s why doesn’t work in a small tub. Still no beating a Super sluice.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@cacogenicist4 жыл бұрын
The way I've seen it demoed, you stratify with the rim a bit up out of the water, and then dip it and continue to agitate to rinse. I definitely think a tub is not a good way to test it. Not enough room. As far as going by how a person might use it the first time, I think a lot of people would hop on KZbin and watch some demo videos first.
@PATTHECATMCD4 жыл бұрын
I figure a lot less material in the pan would have helped. One shovel at a time or less. Means the gold has further to go to get out.That's true of all pans to a certain extent, the finer and stickier the paydirt, the less you can pan with at one go to get maximum recovery.
@cylonmk24 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought, a bigger deeper tub to pan in. Where I pan I'd never have enough water depth unless it's raining hard.
@willbill5484 жыл бұрын
I also had one, I was lucky enough to find one as im in Australia,I found that you definitely need deep water pools to pan this design in,I sold it pretty fast,it was so well built and I thought it was great design but you need to have it just under the water and from memory you need a foot or more deep to pan it out the correct way,once again so well built and I definitely would of kept it if I panned in deep water and it does take an effort to pan the pyramid pan. Also to pan it out you do long left to right motions so the gravel spills over the riffles.
@jacksmimi20114 жыл бұрын
Fill the pan with water and add smaller amounts of material each time. No experience with the pan, just principles of fluid dynamics. Love your work!
@putteslaintxtbks51664 жыл бұрын
To fill that pan, I think you could set it on an open 5 gallon bucket and fill.
@skoitch4 жыл бұрын
puttesla, also soft sand or large rocks prop it well during live river panning!
@tadvanallen4 жыл бұрын
Yep, Or dig a lil hole next to where your digging.. to put pyramid Classifier in..
@joshdyer36704 жыл бұрын
puttesla intxtbks was going to say the same thing
@allenjackson87364 жыл бұрын
Or they can supply a stand with it...
@skoitch4 жыл бұрын
Allen, nobody wants to carry an extra item around with them when trekking up river!
@goldcountryruss70354 жыл бұрын
Just set the pan in an empty pail when filling!
@mass45524 жыл бұрын
I looked down here to see if someone else was going to say that. I noticed that immediately as well.
@mcgaugh574 жыл бұрын
Or set on a 5 gallon bucket.
@waynehames47294 жыл бұрын
That was going to be my comment.
@brianguilfoyle90424 жыл бұрын
you stole everyone's thunder lol, all Dan had to do was move that yellow table top thing and set this pan into the 5 gal bucket below it
@iaingemmell55724 жыл бұрын
I think what Dan is trying to point out is that you shouldn't need to carry an empty bucket or pail to use the Pyrimid Pro.
@ProspectorJohn1019 ай бұрын
No yelling no insults but from watching the creator of the pan its a flat back and forth no tipping like a round pan to get rid of overburden you get more intense to slosh the top stuff over the sides by your hands. As usual I enjoy all your content keep up the good work :)
@markbaldwin76004 жыл бұрын
I have hade a pyramid pro pan for several years. It is harder to use in a tub and needs more action from my experience. I had similar results from a tub. Also the stainless riffles bend if your not clasiffied down or if people you go with try to overload it with bigger rocks. And that caused gaps for the gold to escape. It does do great with clay breaks it down nicely. I do like it but it doesn't get used as much as my normal round pans or as much as i would like to use it. You're limmited by the size or amount of water you have to use
@ChrisR_48124 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honesty in the review of this pan and giving the benefit of the doubt to the manufacturer, stating that it may be your inexperience with this pan that may be causing the issue. I think it would be a great idea if the manufacturer did work with you on a demo/tutorial of the product. Nice, thorough review.
@ItsNotMeItsYou0074 жыл бұрын
@Silently Sceptical No, I watched two by the makers. They made it look pretty good. Just like everything else or every other pan, there is a technique to it. In this case the technique is to not dump the gold out the top before you get it to the bottom. : )
@jwcinc124 жыл бұрын
Oooh yea, I want to see that. Have the maker come. Great.
@frederickbierweiler80204 жыл бұрын
love an open and honest review.. looking forward to the rest of your pan series
@codyringer18574 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan. Really appreciate all the effort you put into teaching others. These are going to be a great set of vids! Super helpful for everyone.
@coreymerrill32574 жыл бұрын
I hope the fossicker(Dennis Katz) answers your call , that would be cool. I watched the demo video and left you a link for it in the last videos comments its like 9 minutes , but the second half of the video is about a finishing pan. It seems to me a fast stearing wheel motion while holding the pan flat ,just above water and level , would force material out to the pan sidewalls and get pushed to one far corner and pulled to one near corner, and then reversed , raking the gravels along the riffles. The video says it is for cleaning gravels very well . I dont remember mud being mentioned,that almost sounds like an accidental finding that became a main feature. Lol . Are you friends with the art teacher at your school? I'm sure an art teacher would have red or grey natural clay for pottery ans sculpting . mix a few scoops of material into that and wet it down and boom. You made your own test clay ! Another Quality video, as always.
@craigstickler9164 жыл бұрын
Very informative Dan, enjoy the pros and cons to the specific pan, I’m new to the panning scene and this series is gonna give a great detailed look at stuff I wouldn’t even think about when buying my first pan, thanks dan! Keep up the great informative videos!
@gutfinski4 жыл бұрын
Got to keep the Pyramid level, working side to side but no tipping, has to be level, letting the waste material slosh over the ends. Also, the pan itself, not the handles, has to be completely under water to keep material fluidized. I have one, and once you get the technique, it will give you 95% capture rate, even with fine gold. It is really not suited for using in a tub, even a large one. Also, not usable in shallow water due to the plug sticking out on the bottom. Since our water here in Maine is not quite as cold as in BC, I wade waste deep into the water with mine. Typically, you can do 3 or 4 pans full before cleaning out with the plug. As you know, as black sand builds up, it tends to pack so as you build up more it needs more action to keep it fluidized.
@Pr0L3G10N4 жыл бұрын
I like the look and ergonomic value it presents, I feel it would do best in a slightly larger space yet still a controlled environment, plus with the way its built it seems that it was designed to be used in tandem with a bucket for filling purposes
@AwakeningEnthusiast4 жыл бұрын
I love how brutally honest you are
@knownentity87374 жыл бұрын
Both the opening and closing shot in this video showed the pan sitting on a 5 gallon bucket, something tells me that this might be how to fill it with material. In the last video I remember the stressing by the manufacturer that is excels in clay material. Those stainless steel blades probably cut clay down well, so I would assume that this pan is really a specialty pan, good for getting chunky clay down to where you can finish it out in the Garrett. Now If I had panned it, I would have gotten 33% and lost 67%. Great video and very informative! Thanks Dan!
@danmyers33304 жыл бұрын
Hay Dan enjoy your videos, but you answered your own question. Its a production pan its for making cons not working them. you would have mixed size gravels in it and would help open the materials to settle the heavy's to the bottom. This is just a thought about what I saw when you were working it. Hope you have a great day/night and stay safe
@RickKrouse4 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of your videos and I will be getting a pan of my own. I have already got a few places to go, from watching your video of looking for good potential spots. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, time and experience with the rest of us!
@johnlippincott10014 жыл бұрын
I used a Pyramid last summer and ended up leaving it at home by Sept. It was very well made and absorbed the abuse of stream work well. Great handles! I panned mostly stream gravels & sand. After a half hour, the pan gets very heavy. The side to side motion required a fair amount of endurance. The biggest drawback I found was the pan's lack of a way to set it down without it tipping over. That means another piece of equipment to deal with for a Pyramid support.
@absats4 жыл бұрын
Dan. Thanks a lotttt!!! Great jooob. Being a beginner (only one weekend in practice) 2 years of admiring video's like this. Very informative. Knowledge about physics. Problem of this pan - that it moves material by slices(waves). Material is only mooving on uper part. Material from lower almost not mooving. Gold will get out because when u wash out impurities - gold is standing there in slice. And a part will be out. Cheers
@RICDirector4 жыл бұрын
A couple of idle thoughts....I do have some, time to time :)....I wonder if: It would do better if filled with water first, thus wetting all the material; It would work better as a two person pan--one shaking in water, one shoveling; It would be any different if used in flowing water rather than static. As always, thank you Dan for a great video, well designed test, and your warm and wonderful attitude! Hugs your way!
@loublacksail16144 жыл бұрын
You continue to make excellent, quality videos with amazing description and incredible detail. Thank you so much for what you do! I've learned quite a lot from watching you and a few other tubers in the genre of entertaining educational videos! Cheers from just under you in the United States PNW!
@kurthauck44434 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the edit adding commentary. The closest place I can pan is Vermont where I am only allowed a pan and a small trowel. The Pyramid Pan is as close as I am allowed to a sluice (forget about highbankers). I save the classification step by shoveling everything into the pan. I wash and discard large rocks by hand. The pan stays just under the surface and level. Short strokes to stratify and long strokes to get rid of lights. I have to trust my test panning because you don't get to see how you are doing. I sit on a bucket and rest my elbows on my knees so it only takes minimal strength so I can keep going all day. I think you can't muddy up the water in Washington state so it wouldn't be as useful there.
@lobke6664 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the nature and how you explain how you gold panning. Its easy for me to remember the staps. Are there any women's who are gold prospects of gold digging? Im 43 and thanks to your channel im interesting in finding gold an gems in the Netherlands. Its so easy the way you are working and explaining stap by stap. Thanks for your help and the beautiful and awesome video's.
@lloydtapia39894 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! I been wondering about mine. I also was unhappy with the results after I checked my dirt in the panning tub after trying it when I got it 2years plus ago.Its been sitting in the garage since.Maybe I didn't do right.Ima give it a go again tomorrow. Take care Bud n God Bless
@davebudlong78604 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan I appreciate your candor and honesty, as well as your admission that it might have been your fault, but you were spot on when you said that would likely be the same result for anyone else who is not used to it as well
@garyyendall71592 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for demonstrating the pyramid pan. I was considering buying one. It looked fast and I liked the way it worked in the video I saw. But after watching your video I reserve judgement. I don't think the final results would vary too much in someone elses hands. You have enough experience to give this pan a good test. I think the mfg. need to go back to the drawing board and make the improvements that are needed. Adding legs for one, so that the pan can be put down, maybe changing the baffles or altering them. I feel you gave it a good test, and I thank you. Gary Yendall
@drsaymore27214 жыл бұрын
It's normal the amount of lost gold during the panning. The dirt at the bottom wasn't moving and it makes so hard for the gold to stratify and sink. Then, the shallow gold will come out of the pan. Sorry, my English isn't perfect, but I wanted to give my point of view. Great video Dan!!
@dennisstewart92454 жыл бұрын
i do have one Dan and you just need to side to side with it but it is hard on the back if you can't sit down to do it, the thing i notice for your self was tipping it to one side and the catch basin you were using was not big enough to side to side, but i have used here in Victoria, can't wait for the next one cheers
@ferdburphel20764 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting yourself on the chopping block. People need to realize everyone is going to have a first time using a piece of equipment and you definitely stated it. Every gold pan is different and requires time to be dialed in with the pay dirt which varies from spot to spot. Since it was your first time with this pan I see it as more of an overview than a review.....you gave me the general idea now my computer like brain has to cipher how it will work in my situation. The main thing I'm thinking is how deep does the water have to be to run the pan in a stream? After watching Pauly pan with a soda bottle anything can be dialed in but with the expense of time which contradicts production 🤔
@williamjohnston41922 жыл бұрын
Dan Hurd I've been watching your videos for about a year now and I must say I really injoy watching them. I was involved in a work related traffic accident about a year and a half ago, and watching your positive attitude on your videos have helped me through some tuff times with my recovery. I'm nearing retirement now and considering prospecting for a hobby. I live in the state Pennsylvania how would i find out if there are any areas in PA where I could try out prospecting? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
@stevenshillinger7752 жыл бұрын
I'm going to watch your comment for a reply as I too am in Pennsylvania and am wondering the very same thing. I've just started watching beginner videos from various posters and one fella says you can find gold in any stream or river. As luck would have it, I have many streams and a big ole Schuylkill River right in my back yard. Maybe Santa will bring me a beginner panning set. I wish you well and best of luck to you sir.
@skoitch4 жыл бұрын
I think you processed to far down in the pan, stratify it while keeping it about half full so only the lightest material is lost. You can process about 4 buckets before cleaning. I had about a 5% loss rate.
@skoitch4 жыл бұрын
Still a great video by the way!
@ItsNotMeItsYou0074 жыл бұрын
Makes sense.
@gutfinski4 жыл бұрын
You echo my experience exactly!
@jeremygilbreath94804 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan. big fan. Just wanted to throw something out there for you to try. I've been using this pan for years and havent found one that has beat it yet. 2 major mistakes you are making to slow you down and your retrieval of gold. 1. Never ever tip the pan on its side like that to wash material out. Huge no no. And 2 wich goes into the first one is you can not properly use the pyramid pan in a tub like that. Not correctly anyways. You never tilt that pan over and is also why you cant use it in a tub is because you do very long smooth strides back amd forth and then speed it up a tad towards the end and all off your material will wash out on it's own wich is what the rifles ate for to gold the gold. Just wanted to throw that out there so next time you use it you have more fun and better gold recovery. I can do around 5 to 6 pre filled five gallon buckets in just about 5 minutes so it's very fast and ddiesnt loose any gold of using correctly. Goodluck and heavy pans. P.s. set it in a bucket while filling it and it wont fall over on you. Lol
@jeremygilbreath94804 жыл бұрын
The 100% reason you lost that gold is at the end of your video and thought the whole thing but the most at the end you were titling completly on its side. That's why you lost gold. Got to use the pan rote before you judge it. I'm in no way affiliated with the pan or the owners but I've done that same test 100 times and never lost but mayne a micro speck.
@gutfinski4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Gilbreath Great post, Jeremy. Using the proper technique is essential. Keep it level and completely under water!
@michaelhayes1678 Жыл бұрын
I like the design. Utah, USA soil is terribly clay-ridden. Thanks for sharing the Pyramid Pro pan with us the best you could. Excellent way to control variables in this experiment, and thanks for offering your best unbiased review with material difficulty high.
@TheMacattack664 жыл бұрын
Well Done Dan! Looking forward to all the other reviews. Stay safe.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@cuban9splat4 жыл бұрын
I have no experience with that pan. But I do like watching you test it and your honest results. Thank you for sharing it with us. Regards from Central Arkansas.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@epcotrob4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. I’m a sucker for a river. I love how happy and brutally honest you are.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@epcotrob4 жыл бұрын
Dan Hurd thank you for your videos
@brandonjackson71684 жыл бұрын
It does look like it's a little over engineered ,trying to catch gold fast is like trying to find it laying on the ground ,no matter what the design gold needs time to work through to the bottom ,and this depends on the consistency of the materials as you mentioned in the beginning,I am interested in the big funnel shaped pan it seemed a little expensive but I think the cone design would work well for all consistencies of materials and I liked the idea of working it all day with one clean out because the gold will not travel back up out if the point!!! That's a good idea
@jaratt854 жыл бұрын
I am of the mind that the best pan you can buy is whatever one you can afford and easily learn to use.. Case in point, mine came from Big 5 and was I think $9, maybe 6.. can't remember it's been a few years since I bought it. My classifier is just 4 pieces of 2X2 spruce cut to about a foot long and screwed together with 1/2 inch hardwere cloth attached with large head 1" roofing tacks.
@stacym16313 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reviewing this pan. I learned a lot about the product. I can't wait to see what the owner of the product can do with it.
@drstevebuckles4 жыл бұрын
You are a truly honest man! Thank you!
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@mikeplant91634 жыл бұрын
good honest review, will have to wait until you have the material it was designed for to really evaluate how well it really works. maybe dig some clean clay and add a weighed amount of gold and weigh the recovered gold.
@kenbest24724 жыл бұрын
THAT SUCKS!!! LOL Tell us how you really feel Dan..... my mother said if you had nothing good to say, don’t say anything at all. Thanks Dan for being a half full glass kind of guy! Another informative video, thanks Dan. A stand for it is just more crap to have to drag into the bush, not to mention that you still need another pan to clean up the cons from it........
@alfster19694 жыл бұрын
Overall let’s call a spade a spade 1. there was way to much loss, 2. I think that with the material you’re you could have done the same amount in the Garrett Super. 3. Jet dry? 4. It’s not pack friendly, with a regular pan you can pop it in your pack and away you go. Great job Dan! 🇨🇦
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Mark_Nadams4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Pyramid Pro Pan would set better in a bucket than on the flat ground. It might even be a purr-fect fit to cat litter buckets like the big rectangular Tidy Cat ones. I hope the manufacturer takes you up on your offer for them to show you how to work their pan. Thanks for sharing Dan!
@skaterslife63054 жыл бұрын
You did a good job exploring all of the possibilities of that particular pan I don’t think anyone can be critical of you are first time use a pan should be a pan And we know you know how to use a Pam
@joeljeffery87044 жыл бұрын
I'm always opened for suggestions but I like my Garret. Thanks Dan for the great review.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@dobos4204 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan, and if that ain't the most honest demonstration of a pan I've ever seen I don't know what is. Thank you for sharing peace out
@pulesjet4 жыл бұрын
Your making that look like work Dan. I don't do work these days. I would just keep chooching along at a easy pace.
@laszlosoltesz37724 жыл бұрын
Ok now that I see you using it, a) sit in on top of a bucket to fill, b) be more vigorous. It is amazingly fast in real life material.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@mcd27964 жыл бұрын
I've used one for a couple years and it does take a little practice.first set it over a square bucket I use an old cat litter 5 gallon bucket. You also you need more water I use it in the river only I've never used it in a tub.
@andyroe21214 жыл бұрын
just put it in a g 5 gallon bucket and it stays up nicely. The pan seemed to be a little to full. I think the creator of it says not to fill it past the second ridge down. it did not seem like you could work that material very well in that tub. I shake it vigorously to stratify. aA couple big rocks in there seems to help brake up clay and agitate. classidying that small would seem to defeat the purpose of that pan. After shaking short and fast for about 30 seconds just slow side to side motions the material goes right out the side. there are good product videos on how to use this pan. I had good capture rates with it in my area. probably not the best for every situation, but I can go through a bucket with that much faster than I can run my sluice. I will have to check capture rates again to make sure it is working good everywhere I use it. Thanks for the video on trying to give everyone a heads up.
@hipbeeexplorer4 жыл бұрын
I have a one of those pyramid pans from Fossicker.com. I used it in the field last year in an area that had gold. When I compared how much I was getting from the same amount of material when using a regular pan and the pyramid pan I was getting less when I used the pyramid pan so much so that it was noticeable. So I stopped using it until I can review it and check losses like you just did. I haven't done that yet but plan to soon. I was suspecting a 20% loss rate so your 30% loss rate is not surpising to me. I used gravels straight out of the river with no classification so maybe my 20% estimate is about right. Also, I found the bending over in a river to use this back breaking. I was forced to put a chair in the river to use it. Great video.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Good info - thanks!
@suebell5864 жыл бұрын
I was also surprised at the recovery rate. Looking forward to the next comparisons and what others have experienced using this pan. Thanks Dan.
@KLAUSKARES4 жыл бұрын
Always a pro .i have been watching all videos and never been disappointed!.Honesty at its finest !!paid sponsor content be damned .👏👏👏👏
@slackwaterplacer4 жыл бұрын
I think you gave an honest review. Thanks Dan.
@nickprice94813 жыл бұрын
Dan if you don’t have haters you are doing it wrong! Thanks for the review.
@torchandhammer4 жыл бұрын
I went and watched the inventor's demo video where he uses it in similar tub of water. That made me think that the first time user argument doesn't really hold water. You can easily watch the video and do it right the first time. I'm pretty sure if I bought one, that's what I'd do because, well why wouldn't you?. I'd love to see you run the test again and do it the right way and compare results.
@juliepaquette20244 жыл бұрын
Excellent review I like your process I also have a hard time believing that that pan doesn't work better when work properly. But like you said first time user would use it just like that. Thanks again for reviewing pans I really appreciate it. I would love to see you review gold hog concentrator pan. Anyway thanks I will wait for the rest. PS Tell Pauly he can self isolate on the river underwater
@OzarkBrozark4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan. You're the reason I'm getting into gold panning. I would like your opinion about the use of pans over the long hours of a work day. It would seem to me that the Garret pan would be a better choice for a long day of work. Tell me if you think I'm wrong but I think you can sit with a Garret, control your posture (more) and stratify with short shakes. Now the big flat blue pan or the Batea?(the right pan) seem to be faster given a learned technique but I suspect that after hours of panning the faster pans with the larger circle motions will be working YOU instead of you working the pans. I would think being bent over the water panning all day would be tiring vs the sitting short motion agitation look of the garret style.
@jwcinc124 жыл бұрын
Have looked at Garret price and the fact that most people in the videos show them as their primary "pan?" i think that says a lot.
@daleross27714 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good plan.Use a bucket to hold it flat and steady. Maybe the metal plates needs to be adjusted like a sluth so it catches the gold
@wayne-oo4 жыл бұрын
Different Gold pans are like fishing lures ! Everyone has the best one to sell you , but the tried and true round pan is the best !!!!
@breyden93634 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a good old Mr. Twister 😂😂
@MrUabhar134 жыл бұрын
This was a great review of this product. However a tub is not the ideal place to use it. I have used this for a number of years and there is a learning curve to it so great job on a first attempt. It needs to be submerged for most of the time during stratification. Don’t tip it. Keep it level. To clear out the lite material you use long side to side strokes which you weren’t able to do in the tubs. This is best used in open areas where you can continuously get clean water into it i.e. rivers and deeper streams.
@meinkamph53274 жыл бұрын
Dan i would like too tell you something. With your knowledge of panning and processing gold, i believe you would be able to construct into the environment a natural system for concentrating the gold. I think the Mayan civilization was doing so, that is the reason why they wanted the Conquistadors to stay out of their rivers. The Mayan civilization Rivers were laced with gold.
@anthonysakowski92614 жыл бұрын
The idea of heavy materials funneling to the bottom is good. Seems the material would concrete after the first time Shallower cup with larger circumference would do better to keep the material moving.
@lonnietrickel38914 жыл бұрын
Add to your test the auto panner. I have tested it with fantastic results.
@alexdenault101014 жыл бұрын
Wish I could come do that with you . Always have wanted to do some panning . Cheers from Alberta Canada
@rodneybetts60864 жыл бұрын
Great review of this pan. Thank you Dan.
@gabrial33774 жыл бұрын
It is best to put into a bucket then fill it, or dig a designated hole to set it in for filling.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
True
@robertromaine62254 жыл бұрын
An interesting idea. I like the ergonomics. Hopefully the gold retention can be improved with technique. Maybe the boss will take you up on your offer and show some tips and tricks!
@Garmoo56004 жыл бұрын
Great concept he is definantly heading the right direction
@thomas1949074 жыл бұрын
i lean mine on a rock in the river with no problem...also watch the video to see how to properly use it for stratifying the material down to the fine recovery in the bottom plug...i use it all the time
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@michaelwebb26424 жыл бұрын
Dan, Love your videos. wish I lived in an area where I could go pan for gold. You always look like you are having so much fun!!! Thank you for the videos!!!
@kevinstewart18784 жыл бұрын
I've used my pyramid pan frequently. In general, I've felt like I've walked away with more gold than I would with a regular pan. I do take more of my time then that to run each pan. Maybe that makes a difference...? But being that thorough definitely turns it into more work. My biggest down side is the riffles, over time have slowly bent in places, creating gaps, underneath. I've tried to fill the gaps with stuff, but it ain't pretty.
@tjs1144 жыл бұрын
I would suggest taking the yellow lid off the 5 gallon bucket and rest the pan down in the bucket when filling.
@kurthauck44434 жыл бұрын
I went to the new site and saw th photos with the large rocks. There is a video on KZbin with fossiker pan inventor in the title (I can't copy and paste with this tablet.) That show how to use with real gravels. The main idea of this pan is you don't pan really. You know how in your standard video starting sequence you hold a Super Sluice just under the water and hold it level and shake it side to side? That is all you do with a Pyramid Pan. Stratify only, no shaving. (OK, a little more forcefully.) The swinging side to side is what throws the lights out. Maybe you slowly pour the water out to see if the gravel is low to shovel more in. The plastic tub will need to be a little wider and deep enough for the pan to be half an inch below the surface.
@gabrial33774 жыл бұрын
I did a video on the pyramid pro pan. I like it except for one thing. One needs deep enough water to lower it beneath the water and swing it back and forth. Sometimes one has to dig a pit big enough to be able to sink it and have the room to swing it back and forth. Other then that i like my pyramid.
@doncole69984 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing but that would be very tiring and hard on the back over time. Alot of us aren't young anymore.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@angelwhite3762 жыл бұрын
Like other types of work do you wear a back brace it keeps your back straight. After a few days you don't reaky notice and if you have back niggles it feels great. It even helps with breathing..
@geraldsilver54614 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan I'm learning a lot from your videos. Been chasing rainbows since 76'.
@uwepolifka45834 жыл бұрын
I think the material forms a plug there where the funnel becomes narrower and all your shaking can not stir it up again. So the gold can´t settle down.
@williamkiefer39754 жыл бұрын
Ideal for you...... Place 5gal bucket with open side up... place your pyrimid pan on the bucket to hold it
@richardvanasse92874 жыл бұрын
I'm usually looking for the odd single spec per five gallon bucket. I don't think any production pan is right for me. I'll probably just keep using my Garrett nice and slow like I have been. Maybe this series will change my mind though. I wonder if these production pans can be used as a super concentrator for when you have a lot of sluice cons to process? I have been trying to learn how to use my home made river sluice.
@Joseph-ew6ou4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel not to long ago. Watched a lot so far I like it. Keep up the good honest videos.
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome to the channel!
@flyinryan19864 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan should take a look at the video on the "prospecting channel" on the pyramid pan its from 9 years ago with the inventor He does it a little different It would be interesting to see if that has better results
@TooTall_hikes2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me loading material into the classifier while it's sitting on a bucket would make since. That was fun to watch
@quest2outdoors4 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch thank you for sharing with us the Fraser is a beautiful River you are very lucky to have such a beautiful River to play on👍👊😎
@jaycee69964 жыл бұрын
If the people who developed the pan provided written or online descriptions (on youtube?) on how to use the pan it would help a lot. The biggest problem it would seem to me is that it is an awkward size, weight and shape to carry long distances. As part of the review it might be helpful to weigh the pans and give that weight.
@thomasstewart93684 жыл бұрын
Time for the pyramid pro boys to go back to the drawing board. I'll stay with my Garrett super slice 👍 thanks for the video Dan 😀
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@homesteadaquariusviewmaste36304 жыл бұрын
I have been so busy lately I have not been able to watch you my friend. I can watch now! I love your channel Dan!
@Danhurd4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@chrislilly14634 жыл бұрын
I like that you aren’t an expert “with that pan”, but I know you are an expert panner. So, if I bought this and after learning how to pan from Jeff Williams, Two toes and yourself, I would expect worse results. I am really confused by the bottom not getting stratified. Looks like an interesting product, but I know myself I could do the same material in my supersluice in about 3 min (excluding final cleanup), just getting to cons. 4 min with my gold trap without my carpal tunnel syndrome acting up. I’d personally want it to be faster to get to cons without large losses. Having said all that, I really hope the manufacturer comes out and does a video with you. I’ve already seen the comments about how the flow pan wasn’t used how it should so I won’t repeat, but I’ve watched Doc blast through a 5 gallon pail in no time with it. The learning curve would definitely be part of the consideration for any pan.
@ItsNotMeItsYou0074 жыл бұрын
Blowing through a 5 gallon bucket might be impressive if you knew how much gold was in it in the first place and the end result was you got all the gold back. Just blowing through the bucket and getting gold does not tell you how much gold you lost. I would rather see a test of their pro model with the box on the bottom. The regular flow pan just looks terrible to me but the con box one looks like it could work quite well.
@chrislilly14634 жыл бұрын
Sorry Tim, what I meant was for a production pan, 5 min was quite a long time for half a pail and I do not consider myself an expert at panning by any means. I get tired pretty quickly panning so all of these products are a sign of hope for me. To me “production” means speed or comparable to feeding a sluice box which we can’t always use depending where you are. Getting through material super fast so you only have the cons to go through. With those losses, you’d lose any time made up by how fast it should have been. Does that make more sense? Assuming you know how to use a pan it minimize losses like Dan does with his Garret, he should be confident he’s not losing that much. As I said though, I’d like the manufacturer show us how to use it right.
@chrislilly14634 жыл бұрын
Tim, check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npTKnKyupNB9o68 was the predecessor to the flow pan. Was too expensive for them to keep making it, but would have loved to try it.
@SenorQuichotte4 жыл бұрын
I really like the landscape.
@glentimmins75604 жыл бұрын
Wow that was an excellent test and very surprised at the results!