Finn McKenty's Truth Bomb is Deeper Than It Seems

[@KeyOfGeebz]

🤔 Do you think, maybe, his interview was an epic trolling of his experience where perhaps it started authentic and turned dark (mental health) and this declaration was his defense mechanism ?

[@DJPsykoHM]

This would make a lot more sense than what he said.

[@justinsmith6095]

@@KeyOfGeebz I think he was just burnt out and fed up with the grind of be a content creator. So, he is starting a new chapter.

[@chasewolf]

I think that's a part of it; just burnout in general and wanting nothing more to do with it and trying to find any way to put a brick wall up to say "point of no return".

[@steezydan8543]

It's his open and brazen support of Kamala Harris that did him in, no joke.

[@extremejen5654]

There's no way he NEVER had any passion for music unless he's, literally, been lying about every detail about his past. He's talked about being a part of underground hardcore scenes and writing for a local 'zine. He's talked about underground bands that weren't even on wikipedia before he talked about them. This is 100% bitterness and disillusionment.

[@capt_howdy]

50-year-old guy dressed like a member of Simple Plan: _"I have no interest in music."_

[@Dragon-Believer]

He's not a member. Isn't that what you call a poser?

[@BrandonHeat243]

@@Dragon-Believer I don't think he's a poser. His rant gives off serious "I didn't even want to go out with you anyway! You're not even hot!" energy. Which is to say, he couldn't handle all the backlash he got so now he's just pretending like he never cared in the first place.

[@steezydan8543]

I noticed him phoning it in for a while now, but he's lying about not enjoying the music; what he doesn't enjoy is himself and the format he chose to associate his brand with.

[@wjackter]

^ this

[@caffeinatedinsanity2324]

He resented himself for pandering to what became of his followers: a majority of nu metal meatriders. He still sucks for running away like that though.

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

I noticed pretty quickly, he was always like that on youtube. I stopped calling him out long ago

[@ding1r]

totally

[@itookallthenames]

Yep I smelt a rat and unsubbed a while ago

[@Erichwanh]

You either die Pat Finnerty, or you live long enough to see yourself become Finn McKenty.

[@MrChainsaw80]

I'm dying for another WMTSS where the fuck is Pat?!

[@nfbuckeye]

Pat Finnerty forever.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

Their Irish ancestors planned it all long ago.

[@garyt3hsna1l82]

holy shit.

[@chbuddah86]

#BaldAsShit gang!

[@SoHungry666]

When a girl breaks your heart (if you're stupid) you say, "I never loved you anyways"- this is the same thing. It's a sign of his narcissism for assuming anyone would care to begin with.

[@The_Raven_River]

narcissistic? Thats a BIT of a stretch 🤣

[@zacksguitarhacks6390]

​@@The_Raven_Rivernot at all

[@RoguSpanish]

Exactly, I've literally never met anyone who has "no interest in music", if that were true he wouldn't have started a music youtube channel when there are literally infinite other options. He's just a butthurt crybaby wuss, always has been.

[@dangerass1982]

@@The_Raven_River That guy, and many KZbinrs/influencers, has at least some narcissistic tendencies. If you think otherwise, you're naive.

[@CompleteProducer84]

Finn is the adult equivalent of half-assing a book report in school by reading summaries and cliff notes

[@infinidominion]

And talking shit about the teacher not knowing much about stuff

[@pip7967]

Not just Mckenty, alot of youtubers and Podcasters are like that. Half assing everything.

[@zachroberts1988]

Thats almost every youtuber with a large following anymore... Theyre algorithm slaves.

[@AygisMusic]

And succeeding. I respect that personally and his bluntness. He did what he wanted to do and I was entertained. Win-Win

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Nah. It was either a marketing stunt, or a "I got my money, f-you music nerds, bye". Either way, that was awesome.

[@alexdennison3136]

He actually does love Hardcore. You can tell in his old videos he would always get excited about his childhood hardcore bands

[@blakemeads9225]

The impression I get is this dude is burnt out, has lost his passion for his channel, and now just wants to burn it all down.

[@vinapocalypse]

He *could* have just said something like "I'm feeling burned out and I'm not doing what I love anymore, I don't need the money anyway, I think I'm going to close up shop" and not baffled or angered tons of people, but some people just can't help being dramatic I guess

[@kevindie]

*_Finn is a marketer. To think he went into that interview not knowing what he was going to say is really short sided. Finn knows the buzzwords to say on the internet; “doing it just for the money” is a very popular way to draw eyes on someone. Making definitive statements like “I don’t even like music” is another marketing technique to capture an audience. I’m not saying Finn is pulling some elaborate social experiment or anything, but Finn was very calculated with his responses and got exactly what he wanted out of this interview._*

[@REMAI_music]

I just see a burned out dissapointed person, that's all, I think it's sad, hope he'll get the help he needs.

[@brockvegas9571]

Bill Hicks had the best take on marketers... Worth looking up

[@KeyOfGeebz]

Oh man, that's right I remember that one!

[@infinidominion]

I'm not falling for that marketing

[@evansmothermon1547]

He’s playing to the “it’s just a ride market”, that’s a good market! *loud devil noises*

[@zachroberts1988]

Most youtubers would just walk away while saying "this doesnt interest me anymore and just feels like a job..." Finn wanted to go scorched earth for a reason, he hated his followers and hated the music industry in general... The fact he went to LinkedIn and now wants to be a "marketing guru" tells me he would do anything for a dollar regardless of who he has to step on to get it!

[@jasonalec6573]

Rage on Behalf of the Machine

[@timg7627]

‘Yes sir, I’ll do what you tell me’ 🤣

[@Beardfish.]

I never really followed the guy as I'm a prog nerd and prog music was his kryptonite. From the little I saw of him, it seemed like he tried to make you feel stupid if you liked something he didn't. I appreciate honesty but there's a way to do it without being a douche.

[@mikuchan8798]

As someone who’s watched Finn’s content for a long time, I don’t buy his statement for a second. He had a second KZbin channel that I watched quite frequently where he uploaded twitch highlights of himself basically just talking about his honest musical opinions and often times what music he genuinely loved and was passionate about. Anyone who watched his second channel knows he couldn’t have been faking that. What this looks like to me is someone who got sick of being hated and sick of being boxed in to talking about certain topics because of the KZbin algorithm, that he decided to just burn it all to the ground and give the people the Finn they always thought he was. It seems like his thought process was “if they think I’m a villain then I’ll give them a villain”. This Finn just seems bitter, and I can’t exactly blame him.

[@captainshiner42]

Nope. You sound like a typical MAGA clown with that nonsense.

[@MarshFogBand]

The problem wasn't he stopped making content he didn't feel passionate about. The problem was his condescending statement as to why he quit.

[@FeartheKlown]

Agreed, I enjoyed his second channel stuff and watched it often. He was actually having fun and I hoped the twitch thing would eclipse his first channel and he could leave it behind. Maybe the combination of both got to be too much. His statements in that interview are so wild I keep waiting to hear it was a deepfake.

[@bennymountain1]

Same, same, same.

[@evat514]

I absolutely agree. And all the comments on here raging at him for being a liar and a fraud and whatever else, weighing in on his mental decline and apparent ‘villain arc’ that we are currently witnessing, lack the self-awareness to realise this ‘Finn’ is as a result of them - his audience. This is a man who has actually lost the will to keep defending himself and his opinions. A man who is simply giving his audience what they think he is and what they’ve accused him of being. And now that he is, they’re even more in twists about it. Society as a whole is wild man. Absolutely broken. And it’s why I intentionally separate myself from the crowd. You only have to look at any KZbin comment section to see how toxic society is. I just hope Finn can now find his peace.

[@davidbonar5190]

so, basically, if what he said is true and he does not like music, or hasn't in a while, anything positive he ever said about music was BS, and everything negative meaningless... :D he could go into politics!

[@jasonalec6573]

Please, we don't need anymore grifters

[@infinidominion]

Stuff from 20-30years ago is the best, btw

[@JayRamahi3810]

God please don’t give him ideas. We already saw his wife’s failed grift as a right winger, and his political takes weren’t much better. An “enlightened” centrist at best.

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

The funny thing is that Nik Nocturnal showed (probably) a tweet from him about how he hates negativity and acknowledges that he's part of the problem. He makes content dunking on people than complains about negativity. Even as he's leaving, he's just sharing negativity all around 😂

[@exploringthemusicaluniverse]

Finn introduced me to interesting Bands. He has consistently told us that he was wearing himself thin. He is tired and was being snarky and sarcastic.

[@AgentHomer]

He only ever saw music as a marketable commodity. Genres that needed dedication and didnt result in massive sales are the genres he used to drag through the mood. He never seemed like he cared about music as an art. I think this interview is as honest as finn has ever been in his life.

[@search895]

I don't know if he's being honest about "having no interest in music" but i always saw a bias in him towards praising bands that are huge famous and have big sales over others that are mild famous or underground. And his personal choices of good songs or albums always seemed odd to me.

[@AgentHomer]

@ it’s not just which bands he praised or criticized, but also how. It’s always they could reach more people doing this or that, the mainstream taste thinks like this. Like he‘ll hear an incredible solo by a successful prog band and all he has to add is, the mainstream doesnt care about shred guitar, ditch the solos! He would have impoverished music, if people listened to him.

[@allenk7296]

Are you high? He has a grindcore band as a side project. He constantly praises underground music and criticizes but rock.

[@AgentHomer]

@@allenk7296 sure link me to the grindcore side project the guy has who doesnt care about music, im sure itll sound fucking awesome 💀💀

[@radish6740]

Nothing less punk rock than a career in marketing.

[@keithmpire]

I don't know how any of this is news, the channel is called The Punk Rock MBA. All his early videos were about marketing.

[@dougsmith4602]

Marketing and punk rock lol

[@FuckYoutubeAndGoogle]

Lmao, Punk Rock was always about marketing. Sid Vicious was only in The Sex Pistols for his look. Punk has always been style over substance.

[@conradcrawford1384]

Finn really showed off his elitist ass. He would have been better off to just fade away and leave his channels to rot.

[@shredenvain7]

Yeah this pisses me off even more. Nobody forced Finn to do anything. He chose to start a "punk/metal" KZbin channel. You don't just start a channel like that to make money because the market is very small! You would only start it out of love for the subject matter! Finn chose to market himself and use controversy to push his own channel. He isn't a victim of anything except reading all the negative comments on his own channel and apparently taking them to heart. This "I never loved music so I'm taking my ball ball and going home" is a complete cop out! The bottom line is he created something and he can't deal with the consequences of his own actions (criticism some valid some not).

[@jeffersoncosgrove1910]

He was lying then and is still lying now. Look at his face. I pressed "dont recommend" a long time ago but but his body language says that he's butthurt about something. He's a man with no integrity and i dont buy that he "met his monetary goals." More likely he lost a big ass lawsuit for running his mouth. He may have voluntary quit or it may have been a stipulation of the suit that he shut down his channel. This is his rejection deflection, his "you didnt break up with me, i broke up with you" moment. No one will miss him.

[@garethlewis4586]

Don't believe it either. That's poor mental health to me, in that, people say things that aren't necessarily true to get a reaction. Symptoms of burnout/crisis IMO

[@chasewolf]

The worst part of being an artist is marketing---last thing we want to do is "trick" people into giving us money, yet lest we market, we go unseen. So not only do we market, we have to then tailor our work to what will be marketable and it's just a never ending circle of BS that robs artists of their creativity. There's multiple reasons why my own solo work is more "leaked" out into the world rather than "released"---that way, I don't have to worry about marketing. It's just there, it's not how I ever made money---they became my own victory lap so to speak, milestone markers. I left my other work to the marketing vultures.

[@jibbyjoms7689]

I think Finn enjoyed nu-metal 'ironically' to piss off hipsters and music purists, which ironically is a pretty hipster thing to do. Then to everyone's surpise nu-metal became huge and actually respected again. He leaned in to it for money, but as it has gone on longer has burned out on it. He doesn't 'hate' music, he got caught in a hipster-irony trap which caught up with him.

[@ms.fruitbat8883]

It feels to me like at some point he did have an interest in music in some way/to some degree, but is burned out and bitter now and is basically going, 'well, I never really liked it anyway, so there!' Kind of a childish response. He could have just said 'hey, I've been doing this for a long time, and I'm feeling burned out and want to try something new.' That would have been the better way to handle things, instead of putting out a statement guaranteed to lose him a lot of respect. There's no point in burning bridges when you don't have to.

[@fastmolasses3598]

i've also heard from many sources there are allegations that he started dating his wife when he was in his 30s and she was still a minor, which is why he is going scorched earth to get away from everything.

[@vorpalblades]

It's not an allegation if it's true.

[@ninja_tony]

@@vorpalblades yeah, but people need to stop instantly believing things just because a complete nobody said it in a KZbin comment. “Heard from many sources”, WHAT sources? WHO are they? HOW do they know Finn personally? Can they prove this? It’s all just a bunch of he said, she said nonsense at this point.

[@Lomaxxx53]

imo what happened is that he started wikipedia half-assing all of his videos at one point and people started calling him out everytime about his dumb info or comparisons and he's trying to save face somehow. An artists, or someone that respects art would never downplay the importance of music just because it doesn't leave money, something all musicians and artists now

[@garyt3hsna1l82]

As a creative professional I also feel the pressure required to derive a profit in this cesspool of a country; at times it really cuts into your ability to enjoy the work we spend years learning a craft and perfecting the numerous jobs it takes to produce _even a mediocre_ product, service, or idea. to borrow a dark souls reference, Finn finally went hollow on us, couldn't feel the warmth of the sun anymore and was consumed by his thirst for more souls.

[@suffersystemstudios]

This fake elitism drives me crazy, people offended about him that doubtfully are as hardcore as about things they think they are.

[@AdamuDNA]

That’s sad. I feel bad for the guy. Unfortunately, it’s true. Living a falsehood will crush any beauty one carries. Get old folks, it’s a gift and a curse.

[@geoff3610]

I have a hard time believing him as well, but if he's being honest, then good riddance.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

Now if only he'd just delete his videos now.. or at least change the channel name so it doesn't have "punk rock" in the title

[@geoff3610]

@@Sergio-nb4hj should say "The Grifting MBA"

[@thenamesisjames]

He's just over it and is trolling in the wake of his decision.

[@tobyb1018]

Even if it’s not true, it’s a dick move to talk about the channel, his fans, the music in the way that he did.

[@Doyle-fq7we]

During his videos he told us he didn’t like music when he said likes kardi bee

[@SINE382]

Loved his old content, it was clear his love was for older more obscure hardcore groups. I’d get pretty sick of talking about bands and trends that don’t excite me. His channel helped introduce me to a few new favourite bands so I can’t complain

[@IHaveTheSchwartz]

Truly disappointing. He was good at selling himself as a brand...

[@bwuceli3801]

The dude ran a Patreon. Imagine how those people who subscribed to his Patreon feel now. He has achieved his financial goals on their dollar. I'd go into hiding if I were him and stay off the internet.

[@allenk7296]

Why? He delivered the services they subscribed for.

[@McSwift]

I love how people are so shocked and appalled as if 90% of “content creators” aren’t doing the same. It’s an industry now and they doing it for the money. Grow up and get a life.

[@LemonCups]

I thoroughly enjoyed Finn's work. Even when i disagreed with him or thought he was being a jerk. Still watched. Still enjoyed.

[@R1ck3stR1ck]

That's why George Carlin's bit was called "Marketing and Bullshit"

[@-Swamp_Donkey-]

George Carlin was gay.

[@vorpalblades]

​@@-Swamp_Donkey- Unwritten rules of the road...

[@dangerass1982]

@@-Swamp_Donkey- Irrelevant and who cares? What are you, a 12-year-old closet dweller?

[@manuelplatino1926]

I've seen several videos about this, I think you have the most constructive and interesting take

[@anotherspaceboy]

I think he wants to sell his marketing services at top dollar, and it makes him look like a better marketer if he was able to achieve his channel’s success without caring about the “product.” So he’s lying about not [ever] caring about music so he can tell future clients, “it doesn’t matter what subject or product you want to sell, I can guarantee big returns on anything” - not just something he “cares” about. Straight business move.

[@jibbyjoms7689]

Not seen this take before, but it may be closest to the truth.

[@JAF729]

I have the same take. Now he has proof of what a great marketer he is. It's an attempt to make his channel relevant towards his new marketing goals. I't;s all BS but that is what marketing is.

[@gagadreams]

Once you accept that people are stupid, nothing is surprising anymore, I'm so much happier simply not caring! 😊

[@Muziqizlyf]

He has his own band 🤯🤯🤯

[@Grimtheorist]

bRand

[@stalwartzero7001]

So many reaction channels use small artists to boost their followers and then just report the same 3 topics as everyone else when they get big 😢

[@hellrose18]

Whether he was actually into music or not doesn't matter to me. All I know is that he's clearly someone you wouldn't be able to trust.

[@Trepanation21]

Glad to see you had the same take that I (and others) did. It's pretty strange that he's lying/salty about never liking the music though, and inexplicably torpedo'ing his brand (and music relationships?) over it though.

[@justinbouillon1548]

100% spot on!

[@codymcgrew94]

That guy has always bothered me, and now I know why!

[@NotRKelly.]

Thank you Geebz

[@DennisFeinsteinCEO]

He's the EPITOME of "Seattle". He has a degree in marketing, while screaming "f*** capitalism, while working for Abercrombie and Fitch, while editing his videos on a MacBook Pro... He's so punk rock 😐👎

[@deltamaxxhomevideo]

First thing I thought of when I saw this was that old Headphones song, “I Never Wanted You.” “Baby I was fakin’ the whole time.”

[@mpk33]

Finn McKhunty.

[@jburdsinfuse]

He said a while back that he was burning out and tired of making content for the algorithm. It’s entirely possible to become resentful of something you used to love over time.

[@aussiematt5591]

Mate I reckon he got sick of being trolled so now out of spite he's saying "haha you all wasted your time listening to me haha" he's full of shit and being spiteful

[@Kevin_Oskar]

It's not just that he have tatoos of artists, but sometimes he would talk about stuff that isn't easy to find information about online. To know some of the things he would say he would either dig very deep on the internet to find information, something a grifter looking for a quick cashgrab wouldn't spend time on, or he would actually have been part of the scene in some way because the was nothing online which he said he was.

[@stevedixon9734]

Absolute bridge burning

[@Lexluther555]

Let’s face it. The social media reality we have all built and monetized is the most god awful existence.

[@wheatthicks]

This is all posturing. He wants people to pay him as a marketing consultant. Having built a successful KZbin channel on a topic he’s pretending he didn’t care about is a better sales story.

[@BockwinkleB]

Some of us knew he was a poser and called him out as such for years.

[@allenk7296]

Great detective work, Sherlock. Months ago, he literally put out a video saying he did not like the videos he’s been doing but they were what his viewers wanted. He wanted to cover a wider variety of music, but his views dropped every time he did which caused the algorithm to lower his exposure. Scotland Yard will be thrilled to hear your findings.

[@wadew3623]

I would say that in the context of American society where pretty much everything HAS TO be about money, then yes, marketing is mostly just a gimmick to meet those goals. However, I don't think it's typically ENTIRELY about that. I do interviews with people as an entertainment writer, and I can definitely tell you they are actual human beings who have a lot to say in movies, TV, music, whatever. It's just that, with American culture, practically everything MUST BE channeled through the profit motive. Ultimately, it creates this incongruous blend of some genuine sincerity and some potential for pathetic (maybe even backstabbing) dishonesty, motivated by stereotypical cut-throat corporate tactics. But most people aren't as immersed in it as Finn admitted to being, or at least would not want to sell out so hard, to the point where money is the only thing.

[@benfrank8649]

Finn has hatebreed tattoos and seemed genuinely excited to talk about them. He said he has been listening to punk and hardcore for like 30 years. I think part of him definitely does care. I think it's when a kid loses a basketball game with his friends "this game is stupid, I don't even care, I would have won if I tried." What I get from this statement from him, is he has had his heart broken by it in some way. He became cynical and then he convinced himself it was a money making scheme the whole time. Someone that JUST cares about money, probably wouldn't think a good get rich quick scheme is have a KZbin channel talking about punk and metal. I guess it worked for him, but typically not the most profitable market.

[@x0scimy0x]

What a silly boy lying through his teeth claiming he doesn't like music at all. That's just a bold faced lie.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

Also a bald faced and barefaced lie. I've gone 50 years not knowing which is the proper term and I'm not going to look it up now. Cheers

[@sensorymultimedia]

Finn became the music Wikipedia essayist and grew to hate his own format. The past 4 years have been him bitching about how he hates doing those videos. He hated his audience and he decided to burn the bridge.

[@Mike-ge7pe]

I don’t know who this guy is or what this is about, but I’m inclined to share my perspective about enjoying music. I’ve played guitar for over 30 years, drums for over 25 years. Music was the entirety of my childhood. It was MTV, sitting at the radio waiting for a song to come on so I could copy it to a cassette, buying records, then tapes, then CDs, spending endless hours learning and/or writing songs. Then, I went large swaths of my adult years ignoring music. My taste for it, for its presentation, for its substance, (or lack thereof) soured. I drive for a living yet almost never turned my stereo on. All the stuff I listened to when I was younger became indigestible. I took a long hiatus from music. No live music. No playing instruments. I was completely burnt out on it. Eventually what brought me back was stumbling upon different genres I would rarely listen to before. More novelties than mainstays for me. Whereas I was primarily into guitar-driven rock, I found myself going deeper into rap, electronic, jazz, R&B, Latin, classical, fusion, chiptune, etc… things that would not interest my social groups or musical peers, and it reignited my interest. While I thought I had tired of music, what I had really tired of was being put in a box. I had tired of the formula of songwriting that lends itself to general listenability and consumption. That’s not to say I was completely vanilla in my tastes or that they weren’t relatively broad, but that my tastes had stagnated, and while my access to music increased with broader internet access, like it has for all of us, actually finding music became more difficult. Now, over the last 10 years or so, my passion has been reignited, my appreciation for some of the music I might have steered away from in the past has become more open. Whether it’s Snarky Puppy, J Dilla, Dave Brubek, Air, or any number of acts that would’ve been out of my direct line of accessibility, I’ve come across such incredible music by abandoning certain sensibilities, by listening instead of looking to make judgements. I stopped looking at the whole painting and rather sought the individual brushstrokes, and not only did it open my mind to new music, but it allowed me to go back to so much music I’d abandoned and find joy in it again. I do think it’s very possible to become burnt out on music, especially when it consumes a majority of a life, but I also think that stepping outside of constrained listening patterns and habits can refresh the joy that brought us there in the first place.

[@justinsmith6095]

I’m not as mad about it as others but it is sad to see him pretty much burn his bridges just because he has money now and try something new. But that is him and his choices.

[@tobyb1018]

The least punk rock thing you could do. I believe every word of it, a fake ass “punk rocker”

[@justinsmith6095]

@ when punk goes corporate!

[@MarshFogBand]

The problem wasn't the choice he made leaving the channel. The problem was how condescending and bitter he was.

[@MarshFogBand]

​@@tobyb1018based, bruh was a poser and an elitist at the same time.

[@eyehatescott]

All these grown men whining about another man whining is absolutely hilarious

[@chaosaintme9067]

And here you are, whining about grown men whining about another man. I bet you really struggle with irony dont ya? Things often fly over your head and stuff right? I personally find that hilarious! Guess we all like to whine and laugh about the same stuff on the internet at the end of the day...

[@BirdNoise77]

Marketing experts. Enough said.

[@acebantz7649]

This guy is talking like someone who converted to scientology, islam, or jehovas witnesses and is talking like someone else's opinion is talking through him

[@Afterglow.Studios]

Did not expect an opinion from you on this but very glad to have it

[@supertenor2767]

I knew that douche was fake, the first time i saw him. You're right. He MUST have been passionate at some point.

[@Dieafreak]

He obviously doesn’t have interest in music, because he’s not a musician (serious musician) or serious musician listener. Makes sense.

[@djuengst2000]

I’m still here lol. Who is Finn?

[@Werewolf914]

I didn't know until yesterday that he even quit KZbin and I don't know what he did or what the situation is so I feel like I'll need to look up what's going on but I take it he's saying he just made videos about music to make some quickish Money? I don't know I'm confused

[@Xiuhcoatl0352]

How about the fact he was in his 30’s dating a teenager.

[@mg682]

Is that actually true? Ik he married her when she was 25 from some slight digging yesterday

[@ashleybrown4754]

​@@mg682He literally waited for her to turn 18

[@sumspring4112]

He met her when she was either 16 or 17, and told his friends proudly they were dating when she turned 18. He himself was 35 and married her when he was 37. So... yeah, pretty fucking creepy.

[@chaosaintme9067]

@@sumspring4112 True, and he left his at the time also 30 something year old girlfriend that put up with his drug addiction a couple of months after his now wife turned 18 and "officially" started dating her(but he knew her and hang out with her before she turned 18 and I'm pretty sure they were already together then, but still creepy anyway)

[@hobojungle1]

I think he’s trying to portray himself as a mastermind. Dude definitely had a music phase. But he’s probably sick of it all (no pun intended) now. Lol

[@victormunoz3931]

I've watched a lot of videos from The Punk Rock MBA and some from Finn's second channel, now I just heard the interview and this is what I think: I think it's bullshit. What I really think is that he just got tired of people taking him way too seriously and getting mad from the content on both his main channel (which sought to be more serious and objective and, thus, may have offended some) and his secondary channel (where he mainly talked just crap that was supposed to be fun stuff, something more personal, which of course was gonna offend some more). It's just him saying "You know what? Fuck you people, I'm out". Was he just in it for the money? Maybe it started to be like that at some point, but I don't think it was from the beginning. I mean, no matter how profitable it may potentially be, you just don't start an entire project (which by the way requires a lot of time and dedication) if you're not even slightly interested in its contents. I do believe, by the way, that he started losing interest in producing videos and having to find topics for each of them and, most importantly, to do the research. Because yeah, I've read many people claiming that he was a fraud, that he basically copy-pasted from Wikipedia sometimes. Okay, he's no expert, I can believe that.... So what? Maybe there was some inaccuracy here and there, and even a lack of authenticity, but it's not that he just talked nonsense or that he didn't know shit about what he was talking about. I think you can have your channel and talk and share your opinion on stuff without necessarily being a fucking encyclopedia but knowing or at least doing the research you need to, and I think he did. TL;DR he just grew tired of making videos and got bored of dealing with certain people, so he sent it all to hell to stir the hornet's nest because he knew it would happen, and now he must be laughing about it.

[@sonofabobo2]

That's a lot of effort put forth for not liking what you're doing.

[@LookSpec]

getting into an industry you're initially passionate about for long enough can definitely wear you out or turn you off to it (I hate my day job for example), but I don't think "I have no interest in music" is an honest or even remotely reasonable copout

[@MostlyCloudy]

He's just thin skinned and was being facetious

[@monkiespukerabbits]

I wondered if this interview wasn't kinda the ultimate punkish troll by him. I think you're right and he's burned out but maybe this was a final thing to rage everyone to 11. It didn't work with me, my emotionalmeter didn't even blip.

[@NyckulasLowe]

There’s NO WAY he doesn’t like music. Him “bowing out” from making music content (no matter the reason) is on him and he’s totally within his rights for the decision but lying about the reason is very sus. Makes him look like a dope

[@Algron]

He will always be one of my favourite content creators.

[@diredier]

Epic trolling, I think he's just over the criticism and the backlash and doesn't care anymore

[@josephmarshall6599]

People should not be shocked. I write scripts for large KZbin channels with millions of viewers and diehard communities. The "hosts" view you as one thing a $ sign. In my est 75% of *all* content creators either 1) liked it & then started BS'ing or 2) They were "personalities" in it for "the bag" from the start.

[@theunborn33]

It took me only one of his videos, a couple years ago, to know the guy was a massive fraud.

[@corey6393]

I have no idea who he is, or what has happened, but I agree that marketing is bullshit. Carlin and Hicks both had great bits about this fact.

[@zolarczakl6815]

He is 100% trolling; there were some seriously vitriolic people out there against him, so he's likely just spitting the dummy and saying shit that will wind them up and venerate them a bit.

[@C24242]

He likes to use negativity to build things - a favorite strategy for public figures and entertainers these days. Ending his channel was purely from being burnt out. He out grew music as a profession. Saying "I don't like music" is his cyanical goodbye. No body got played, he's just moving on. I do think it would be better to just be honest than to say something that is a complete fabrication based on the career he built.

[@withinthrall1445]

I don't believe he did it purely for money, because if he was going for money, I feel he would have gone for trending hip hop artists and newer pop groups. Those are the ones with the bigger fanbases and I feel would have been a much faster way to meet any financial goal he set for himself. Dude wrote music blogs well before he made his channel. He admitted multiple times to read every single comment. And he reads all the negative ones. I feel like he burned himself out because he was trying everything with his content to avoid criticism, but you inevitably can't. I think he grew to resent it due to some serious allegations, and the second he had a chance to hang it up without putting himself in a bad financial spot, he took it.

[@mrjavierpinto]

99% of Marketing is that. And people love and pay from that

[@xORLOCKx]

I personallu think he is trolling everyone and checking out. What better way to wipe your hands completely. Leave everyone trolled and burn the building down. He seemed sick and tired of it and pulled the plug. Saying he didnt care and just read from wiki is BS. He trolled the enternet and said good bye as he lit the fire. Thats pretty clear.

[@pickthestickup]

I dunno man. For supposedly being super into the punk/hardcore/metal scene, all of Finn's analysis of other bands has been purely on metrics of marketability and monetary success. He knows that folks in this scene have lots of opinions so it's bound to boost engagement if he makes controversial takes on bands who are considered scene-darlings. He just showed us who he is, an empty suit in punk cosplay.

[@claudiocunha7672]

please Jinjer next, new song "Green serpent" , the best song, Tatiana is insane with the soft vocals and the band seems to be 4 or 5 playing with so much detail that it happens

[@phokyew699]

no one is talking about jinjer in this video lol

[@Swollen_Goat]

I think this statement saying he never cared about the music is just a lie. Very much reminds me of a response when being hurt. Like, "Fine, I never liked you anyway!" kinda deal.

[@TimlerFX]

He had a few opinions in the past that had me kind of suspicious about who he really is. Idk there were just times were he didn't seem genuine. This seems to confirm those suspicions.

[@shacoonONE]

Finn was on Fat Mike's podcast playing his favourite records... he's a liar.

[@The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage]

I can't say I was the biggest fan of Finn-- there were takes he had that I didn't jive with, but others that I did. But it was all under the assumption that he was another content creator who wanted to put their opinions out there for music they enjoyed. Especially in punk, you want a raw, no-fucks given mentality. Finn spat in the face of that. While he definitely made bank on it--and I can't blame anyone for wanting to make bank--I have lost any and all respect for him.

[@laurenriley2943]

This is not shocking. He has said numerous times in his tier videos that he does not like certain bands, but he creates videos about them because that is what is popular. Finn said that he hated melodeath but then had Anders Frieden on for an interview right after the Album Forgone came out. It is youtube, and youtube is an algorithm. Even video game youtubers have said it as well. Metal Jesus Rocks said that he loves talking about old big box PC games, but those videos do not as well as a a console like the Nintendo 64. This is all a career is for some people. Give me the money and that is it. I am glad Finn reached his financial goals, but the time doing all those videos is time he cannot get back. Money comes and goes but time is forever gone. His first video was post six over six years ago on his channel. Who knows what channel he had before this. Basically he spent seven years doing something he hated. How many hours did Finn spend editing videos? Willingly every dime he made making videos was worth it because his time and health are gone for life. Marketing is not bad as long as the product provides value to people in some way. It is when you force things down people's throat that it becomes a problem. When the product is terrible or does not do as advertised, The magnifying glass for the original Gameboy is best example of false advertising just to take people's money. Finn did what older millennials, gen xers, and boomers have done for decades. They worked a job for material gain. I grew up as upper middle class, but my father did not care about his health. He killed himself slowly by eating himself to death. My father eventually passed away from heart failure.

[@MikeCross616]

Bad take man Marketing goes ALONG SIDE a product That burger chain uses marketing to get you to buy that burger If that burger is bad, no amount of marketing is going to get the burger brought long term Finn has basically come out and said he has no interest in his "burger", he just churned out shit burgers all these years and called us fools for buying that shit burger As far as I can tell marketing has absolutely nothing to do with this situation

[@HarryToeface]

He admitted to basically just plagiarizing wikipedias...